i mean its kinda convincing trap but ive seen far cuter

oh shit its u in the video hahaaaaaaaaa

LOLOLOL. GOT'EM! I do well enough in the dating game, so my looks are good enough. But not on Asian trap level, of course.

first when i saw the video i thought there was some borderline triggered sjw, but then when i started looking it kinda dawned on me. ur right about not being on asian
level doe

actually thats a girl cosplaying a trap hehe lol trapception

what a cute boy

Gonna' have to try harder, buster! I've heard it all.

The Absolute State of

Stop drinking that water and start lifting.

God bless your soul, nigga.

Its the vaccines! Instead of autism it made me a trap. Maybe they got the mixture wrong.

I'm not sure about that autism...

OpieOP

I figured you'd have to have thick skin and a sense of humor to show up in ESR considering. Well done.

I knew there would be a lot of comments about my transition. I joke about it all of the time. I'm not offended by others comments on it at all.

GL!

i honestly cannot tell if its male or female

mail, e-mail, fe-mail... all the same.

"but that's not what this video is about"

yeah right

gl anyway

I'm glad you agree with me on that its not about me. I was gonna not even address it and deny it for comedic purposes.

before you start trying to sort out what went wrong with project nex you'll need to sort yourself out.

just fastforwarded through this 9 minute vlog and found a collection of excuses and justifications for failure and lack of ambition and motivation to complete their project. the person in the video presents a sort of victim mentality, wherein nex developers were subjected to the abject misfortune of...a booming period for arena fps development that sparked a brief nostalgic interest in the community at large, which was capitalized on by companies like blizzard to create games like overwatch.

now that reflex, quake champions, and every other game this nex developer person cited have been shown to also be failures, the nex developers feel confident enough to crawl out of their holes, because the fear of not being as good as something else is no longer their main motivational force for behavior.

the developer treats us to the pearl of knowledge that the game will be switching from the unity engine to the unreal engine, and so we know that there will be a ton of grunt work up front before the actual fun of creative development can be had.

i predict that these game developers will be abandoning this project before the...transition to unreal engine is complete, and the project will have, by then, become a social melodrama, with beautiful and modern new excuses for the failure being pandered to the audience. i mean, just look at all of the insensitive comments in this thread already. how can this game succeed against such ignorant bigotry?

when people put themselves on camera with these sorts of excuses and announce their plans to totally reverse their original plans and start from scratch, it's often a good indication of a failure to commit to success, and that is assuming that there was a solid goal to begin with. in this video, we are informed that there was a solid goal for nex: to be a fun single player game. the developers couldn't even commit to that goal.

this is a game being developed by people who cannot commit to the success of a single goal, and who use circumstances to excuse their failures, rather than properly analyzing the state of their development to see that the issue is with their lack of commitment to the achievement of a well-described goal. project creep is a real problem, especially with labors of "love", and this project has good signs of being run by people who don't defend against it.

one other thing i've noticed, too, is that often people who fail at some venture will cling wildly after that failure to the concept of "recognizing failure" as being critically important. they use this concept of recognizing failure to bolster their self-confidence, as though they've figured out something important and life-changing from the experience, all while not actually analyzing for real failure (ie, they tend to excuse and justify their personal failures by citing external circumstances, etc.). so they get the false sense of "achievement" by "recognizing failure", but the failure recognized is false and leads to delusion, which primes them for an even greater failure, as they won't be aware of the true reasons for their previous failure, yet will be more confident and inspired because they think they've analyzed their failures properly.

it's a very sad and tragic thing to see happen, especially when people start to desperately flail for purchase when the rug of their delusions is ripped out from underneath them and they're sent tumbling toward the floor of which the tiles are hot lava. :^(

lol, recommending Peterson to a LGBTQ person, nicely memed

I've done work with MRA orginzations. I'm very much not a feminist.

Do you tuck your wiener?

https://imgur.com/a/J5Yvs

While singing "Goodbye Horses"

Because he doesn't bow down to every insane demand retards the extreme left have? I don't think I've ever heard him say he will not respect someone's wish to be addressed as man/woman/him/her. It's the nonsense that someone can demand to be addressed as, "A non-binary, 5th dimensional, jedi-knight toaster Z", and in Canada at least have legal standing if someone doesn't comply.

And remember; don't forget to be offended by something I wrote. That is the way of a true SJW.

"A non-binary, 5th dimensional, jedi-knight toaster Z", and in Canada at least have legal standing if someone doesn't comply

Sounds like you need to brush up on your legal interpretations, buddy.

And remember; don't forget to be offended by something I wrote.

How much have you listened to feminist academics (not tumbrinas) talk compared to other people bashing them? Give me a ratio.

Faggots are people too, you know...

like recommending a RL-only player to go to a LGBBQ

Agree with this. I'm always somewhat suspicious when modders announce projects before their even having established the fundamentals of their game. If you are truly committed to success you ought to work on your project, head down ass up, until the finished product is in the forseeable future. Then surprise the community with the fruits of your labour rather than the greatness of your ambition. However at the end of the day the level of interest will speak for itself.

Good luck with the project. I genuinely hope it goes somewhere.

Lol I'm sure this outburst of judgemental pseudo-psychological-and-empathic nonsense, ad-hominems and the implication that there's something deeply wrong with OP's personality, delivered by an otherwise reasonable person (you) has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that OP is publicly demonstrating their non-socially-conformant sexual orientation.

show a single ad hominem or anywhere I implied there is anything deeply wrong with anybody. i think your perception of my post is colored by the developer's appearance.

anywhere I implied there is anything deeply wrong with anybody.

literally the first line? "Sort yourself out"? Clearly only things that are broken need to be sorted out.

Really the whole post is "your approach to this entire thing is flawed and it comes from your lack of commitment, your lack of identifying and dealing with the things you did wrong as well as these and these flaws within your attitudes towards the project". As the eventual failure of the project is predicted based on the attitudes/characters of the people involved, this qualifies as ad hominem (though it might be legitimate tbh, as attitude obviously matters).

I don't know about OP, but I've been in a bit of a crisis myself lately, partially because I never manage to work on the things I should be working on, and your post is the kind of talk that would cause me to harm myself physically (brains are weird like that). I have enough parts in my head which drive me to such actions and blame me for everything, so providing outside stimulus expressing the same notions of really-it's-all-your-fault-and-your-fault-exclusively (which is pretty much the only thing your post says) isn't the smartest idea. When I made the above reply I was definitely projecting that onto OP, probably partially because of what my own bias/intuition says about Trans people.

Anyway, obviously that kind of talk as presented in your post contributes absolutely nothing to make oneself more motivated or to cause oneself to constructively deal with one's own past mistakes. The absolute opposite, it's how you drive people into self-loathing and giving up.
I was particularly weirded out/disgusted by how you actually bothered to make an articulate seemingly-sincere potentially destructive post about this random indie project probably done by people in their free time after doing nothing but jokefully memeing about the professionals at id for weeks.

ad hominem fallacy occurs when the consequent of an argument is denied or supported by an unrelated personal attack. i haven't committed anything near an ad hominem, and my original post wasn't even part of an argument. i watched a video and made observations of the behaviors in that video. i haven't blamed anybody for failures, or anything like that. i've offered anecdotal opinions based on personal experiences dealing with achieving goals.

you've repeatedly created very bad caricatures of my statements, and are attacking those caricatures. this is a straw man fallacy. my post is much more than what you say it "really is". my post is also much different from what you say is "pretty much the only thing my post says".

you say: Clearly only things that are broken need to be sorted out.

that's not clear. what about perfectly functional things that aren't sorted? what about jigsaw puzzle pieces? nowhere have i implied that anybody or anything is broken. you are 100% injecting the concept of brokenness into my comment.

you are projecting your own issues onto the conversation, and your "interpretation" of my statements is very much colored by such projection.

pretty much, and linking peterson confirms that most likely his views are such about trans people.

my views are such as what about trans people?

Prejudiced (the long psychoanalysis out of barely anything shows that), and in general probably quite negative as far as anything trans goes. I can't really know how much of Peterson's stuff you agree with, but just happening to link him to a trans person for unrelated character development suggestions seems too unlikely to be an accident considering how much of a kerfuffle Peterson is in regarding that stuff.

I didn't provide any long psychoanalysis, either. I watched the video and responded to the points I wanted to respond to and provided some personal anecdote.

My link to Jordan Peterson came with a specific quote about sorting yourself out. Nothing I posted has anything to do with this person's appearance or affiliations or persuasions or anything else, other than pointing out the response so far in this thread. Literally nothing I wrote is based on this person's appearance. It is all.coming from the content of the video and my own personal experiences as related to the subject of achievement and realization of desired goals.

Sort yourself out isn't really a specific quote, it's this whole thing Peterson suggests people do - start fixing the world by fixing themselves, making their bed, getting a job, etc. Outside of some motivational speech someone gives, just saying this to a person out of pretty much nowhere (it really can't be said to be related to this talk more than to everything else) is quite a nonsequitur and usually comes off as having some reason to say it. Like maybe the person seems like they'd really need it. Which won't sound right unsolicited and without good reason.

And obviously, it's Peterson, who is in this whole thing about trans people. Probably not an accident.

The rest could be written for a different reason, but either way, it's really out of nowhere and presumptuous to say that much this strongly with only this much to go on... So I'm thinking probably not an accident.

jordan peterson says "sort yourself out" regularly. you're wrong. he says it at around the 2 minute mark in this video, which is like the first result for "jordan peterson sort yourself out" on google.

my reference to jordan peterson had nothing to do with anything other than seeing a post about, and i quote:

I recorded a video that explains much more in detail where we went wrong and how we plan to fix all of the problems we had in the past. I think that failing at trying something cam be very important. However, its how you face that adversity and what you learn from your mistakes that will determine whether or not you succeed or grow as an individual/team.

the "sort yourself out" and reference to peterson youtube was a response to the content of the post, and was related to my perspective as somebody who has listened to his interviews on the joe rogan podcast and the jordan peterson podcast within the past 6 months. they actually helped me a lot in my own life.

you're full of shit in your response, and seem to be fishing for some reason to express indignation. you say things like "and obviously, it's peterson". it's not so obvious to me. just because you have some preconceived notion doesn't mean that your preconceived notion is some intellectual constant that crosses the barriers between minds so that you and i must recognize the same things as given.

it isn't out of nowhere. the only reason it seems out of nowhere to you is because you "presumed" to "assume" my motivations, and you probably did it based on this developer's appearance, you bigot.

jordan peterson says "sort yourself out" regularly. you're wrong. he says it at around the 2 minute mark in this video, which is like the first result for "jordan peterson sort yourself out" on google.

what he says is roughly what I meant, I don't see how I got the purpose of *sort yourself out* wrong. It's quite preachy to just go around saying it, but whatever man.

The rest of your original comment is once again hard to see as just a response to what was said in the video, it's more of a rant you went on after seeing the same sort of sentiment expressed for the n-th time. Sort of how it comes off. Again, not really cool socially, but I guess on ESR it's not too out of place.

This thing though...

you're full of shit in your response, and seem to be fishing for some reason to express indignation. you say things like "and obviously, it's peterson". it's not so obvious to me. just because you have some preconceived notion doesn't mean that your preconceived notion is some intellectual constant that crosses the barriers between minds so that you and i must recognize the same things as given.

Ha. Why is he famous, do you reckon, why does he get so many views on youtube and so much money on Patreon? It's not because he's the most gripping emotional speaker out there. I tend to think he's pretty good at that, but really, that's just not the point. He's famous because of his views about feminism and trans people and PC culture more broadly, regardless if you agree with them or not. Would you actually deny that? And then, what are the chances that you just happen to link him as a motivational sort of speaker, to his general youtube channel rather than a specific video, NOT because of his views on trans issues here? It just seems extraordinarily unlikely.

As an example, one of the first videos that he blew up with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP3mSamRbYA

It wasn't because he was telling people to sort themselves out that he got popular, lol.

Why Jordan Peterson is popular or whatever you're fixated on is irrelevant. I didn't go on a rant. I've explained why I linked to Jordan Peterson's YouTube page. You refuse to acknowledge my reasoning, and substitute your own reasoning instead. I don't know anything about Jordan Peterson as related to transexual people or whatever else you're talking about. What I do know is that Jordan Peterson talks about dragons, sorting yourself out, and cleaning your room a lot.

You want what I said to be rude and to have some hidden agenda. You have repeatedly supposed and assumed my motives as being somehow sinister or something along those lines. Your entire approach to my position is fabricated to support those assumptions.

My approach is based entirely on knowing who Peterson is. If you're actually just about the only guy who found out about Peterson this way and only took notice of his motivation videos, then I suggest you get to know more about him and then think why I'm reacting this way.

I find it extremely unlikely that that is the case, though.

So who is Peterson?

i don't care about your approach or your feelings about peterson. i wrote what i wrote for the reasons that i wrote it, and your inability to acknowledge my personal motivations due to your personal issues with jordan peterson doesn't change that.

i highly recommend you sort yourself out, bucko.

So you're unwilling to think about how it looks regardless of what you thought when you said it?

Life isn't so simple as intentions, man.

i haven't said i'm unwilling to think about anything. again you are inventing something in your mind and then addressing that mental invention. it has nothing to do with what i've said or done.

it has nothing to do with what i've said or done.

Riiight, completely invented. Unwilling it is.

you literally made up a position for me (that i am unwilling to think about how something looks regardless of what i thought when i said it) and are now using that made up position to draw conclusions about me. that is what just happened.

Not using it to draw conclusions, I'm literally claiming that you're unwilling to think about how it looks.

Or... This was all just rationalizations, and you do know who Peterson is.

you made up a position for me:

So you're unwilling to think about how it looks regardless of what you thought when you said it?

and two posts later, based on that position you made up for me, you concluded:

Riiight, completely invented. Unwilling it is.

yes, you are claiming that i'm unwilling to think about how it looks. i'm telling you that your claim is 100% invented in your head, like much of the rest of what you've written to me in this thread.

i haven't said anything about whether or not i care about how anything looks in this thread. this is all being assumed by you, and you're using your many bad assumptions to converse with me.

and two posts later, based on that position you made up for me, you concluded:

Didn't conclude anything based on it, I just affirmed the claim itself again based on what you said.

For the rest, I didn't assume. I gave the likely chances of what happened - that you were basically trolling by linking Peterson for totally not trans related reasons. That's the expected case based on knowing who he is. If that is not the case and this is indeed the rare case where linking Peterson was totally not trans issue related, well then, your claims of me inventing things and doubting why I'm being suspicious of you look pretty weird. They're really trivial, my claims are, if you actually know who Peterson is. So what's up with finding them completely invented due to bias, then.

you did assume. you have assumed lots in this discussion. many of your assumptions about my motivations appear to stem from your personal understanding of jordan peterson and his relationship with transexuals. i don't know the details of your understanding, and i'm not interested. i posted what i posted for the reasons that i posted it, and your refusal to acknowledge that doesn't change anything.

you're very confident about the veracity of your assumptions. you're a poor reasoner. you're working backwards from your preconceived notions in an attempt to build evidence to support them. it's very bad thinking.

i posted what i posted for the reasons that i posted it, and your refusal to acknowledge that doesn't change anything.

I've admitted that it could be the case, my claims were about probability. However I noted that in that unlikely case, your comments don't come off the way you thought they did, and that if you actually knew more about Peterson then... You'd notice how my claims aren't so wild, wouldn't find my reasoning so prejudiced, and ultimately realize that linking him just comes off the wrong way if we're to suppose that you were just trying to talk about the project.

Even without knowing too much about him, your steadfast refusal to even comment on how it looks, your comments about my prejudice and supposedly poor reasoning have a whopping whole in them, and that is not knowing how Peterson is thought of in the debate about trans issues. I'd go even further and say that the steadfast disagreement with my argument methods does make it look like you're unwilling to think about how it looks.

After all, if a black guy in my country (a tiny minority) posted something about a project, and I concluded that he's going about the project the wrong way and gave him personal advice on that, and then linked a person (a general link to his profile, mind you) who other than giving similar personal advice, is very very famous for very controversial opinions about race issues or something like that... And then people pointed out how suspect that looks... Should I really dismiss their views on how it looks, refuse to comment on how it looks, doubt their confidence on how it looks and their views on what are my likely intentions?

Surely, no matter how intricate my intentions are, the plain fact about how it comes off for outsider audience is quite simple, and it's quite reasonable for them to go to that and comment on it. Sure we could go around pretending we're all unique snowflakes and how things come off to others don't matter, but this would pretty much be the end of any clarity in public discourse and politics. If things really seem one way, and you don't want them to, it's your job to make that clear, and some things (like linking Peterson to a trans person for supposedly nontrans-related reasons) are extremely hard to interpret around.

I haven't steadfastly refused to comment on how anything looks.youre still making stuff up and then pretending it's my position. How you think or feel about Jordan Peterson is totally irrelevant to my motivations for posting the link to Jordan Peterson.

Because you have some preconceived notions about Jordan Peterson does not make your feelings or concerns valid. Because you associate Jordan Peterson as a problematic figure for trans people does not mean that Jordan Peterson is a problematic figure for trans people. I don't have a responsibility to acknowledge or accept your opinions about a subject I don't know about, and because you are the one making so many claims that are tangential to the actual topic of this conversation, the burden of proof is firmly on your shoulders.

I don't know anything about the nex developer's sexual orientation or gender identity or social persuasions. If there are any negative links being made then they are being made in your mind, and you should check your privilege so that you'll stop trying to force your negative outlook onto me. Thanks

Because you associate Jordan Peterson as a problematic figure for trans people does not mean that Jordan Peterson is a problematic figure for trans people.

How you think or feel about Jordan Peterson is totally irrelevant to my motivations for posting the link to Jordan Peterson.

He's extremely controversial. That much is beyond any reasonable dispute.

I don't have a responsibility to acknowledge or accept your opinions about a subject I don't know about, and because you are the one making so many claims that are tangential to the actual topic of this conversation, the burden of proof is firmly on your shoulders.

What proof, you repeatedly claim ignorance and no interest in learning about what I say, and you're repeatedly either claiming ignorance on or denying the most obvious fact that is beyond dispute, that being that Peterson is very controversial in terms of trans issues and that obviously heavily impacts the way your post comes off. What's the point of claiming ignorance / not caring for n posts in a row and then demanding proof on something so obvious? If it's to show that you're not even looking to consider how it comes off, then you're doing a pretty good job.

This sort of a dance:

Because you have some preconceived notions about Jordan Peterson does not make your feelings or concerns valid. Because you associate Jordan Peterson as a problematic figure for trans people does not mean that Jordan Peterson is a problematic figure for trans people. I don't have a responsibility to acknowledge or accept your opinions about a subject I don't know about, and because you are the one making so many claims that are tangential to the actual topic of this conversation, the burden of proof is firmly on your shoulders.

Looks completely absurd when the claims are this trivial and obvious as the ones about Peterson being controversial and that impacting your post (same with my race issue example in above post), that... It boggles the mind how you could be sincerely saying this.

i didn't demand proof. i stated that the burden of proof is on your shoulders. as i understand it, your entire issue with my link to jordan peterson being somehow "offensive" is predicated on your assertions that jordan peterson is innately or inherently a toxic subject when associated with transexual people.

you saying "He's extremely controversial. That much is beyond any reasonable dispute." doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make any opinions you establish based on that premise unassailable.

i don't know what your desired outcome for this conversation is. i've already made it clear that i didn't post a link to jordan peterson's youtube page as some slight, and you're persisting in this back and forth.

denying the most obvious fact that is beyond dispute

i haven't denied any facts that are beyond dispute. your habit of inventing nonsense is really getting in the way of your ability to reason.

that being that Peterson is very controversial in terms of trans issues and that obviously heavily impacts the way your post comes off.

whether jordan peterson is controversial in terms of trans issues is beyond me. some people might argue that "trans issues" themselves are inherently controversial, so that disagreement between parties regarding "trans issues" inherit that inherent controversy. some people might see what you say and state that your position about jordan peterson is biased by your own perspective, and, as such, is unfairly dismissive of his. i wouldn't know, but i'm guessing some people might think that way.

not caring for n posts in a row and then demanding proof on something so obvious?

i mentioned not caring one time in this conversation, and that was to say that i don't care about your approach or your feelings about peterson. again, i haven't demanded proof of anything. i am not attacking your position. i'm defending myself against your libelous statements about me.

If it's to show that you're not even looking to consider how it comes off, then you're doing a pretty good job.

i'm not writing anything to show that i am or am not looking to consider anything. i don't have a "strategy" for this conversation, nor do i have some image i'm trying to manipulate others into believing.

It boggles the mind how you could be sincerely saying this.

you're boggling your own mind, bucko. you have invented and imagined a lot of things that you find to be shocking and offensive, and you've attributed those things you've imagined and invented to me. it's all in your head.

i didn't demand proof. i stated that the burden of proof is on your shoulders.

Sure, I'm saying that it was met by virtue of the claims being generally accepted by anyone who was paying attention and me stating that. No more proof needed for a neutral observer who cares to look if that's the case himself.

as i understand it, your entire issue with my link to jordan peterson being somehow "offensive" is predicated on your assertions that jordan peterson is innately or inherently a toxic subject when associated with transexual people.

He's controversial. Strong opinions that many have strong feelings about. Whether those are negative or positive doesn't really matter, it's simply a fact that anyone who has been following his meteoric rise to fame or even hearing about it every now and again. You can dance around and play a fool, but obviously your intentions don't matter shit when you link a person like that, everybody will think about his trans opinions in such a context rather than the sort yourself out advice.

The fact that he's controversial in terms of those issues specifically and that overshadows anything you intended or said is my central point and is very plain, yet you're playing around some hypothetical neutrality, magical intention land as if the obvious readings (like of your post) based on that don't exist. They do.

again, i haven't demanded proof of anything. i am not attacking your position. i'm defending myself against your libelous statements about me.

Denying a claim is still making a claim, and choosing to ignore the obvious reading and pretend like it requires mindreading to think it's relevant is also committing you to a certain look. One of avoiding the truth in front of you and rationalization. If you naively didn't think about Peterson's trans controversy before, you've made it very obvious that you're avoiding it now.

Sure, I'm saying that it was met by virtue of the claims being generally accepted by anyone who was paying attention and me stating that. No more proof needed for a neutral observer who cares to look if that's the case himself.

i don't understand what you're saying.

He's controversial.

so you say.

Strong opinions that many have strong feelings about.

okay.

Whether those are negative or positive doesn't really matter, it's simply a fact that anyone who has been following his meteoric rise to fame or even hearing about it every now and again.

it isn't a simple fact to anyone who has been following his meteoric rise to fame or even hearing about it every now and again. i've listened to his interviews on joe rogan, and i've listened to jordan peterson's podcast. i don't know what issues with trans people that jordan peterson has, or how his great advice about people sorting themselves out and thereby gaining capacity to sort other things out is somehow worth your lengthy tirades against...well, i'm not sure what your tirades are about.

You can dance around and play a fool, but obviously your intentions don't matter shit when you link a person like that, everybody will think about his trans opinions in such a context rather than the sort yourself out advice.

i'm not dancing around or playing a fool. it isn't obvious that my intentions don't matter. this is just something you're repeating in this conversation, and expect for me to accept as given. i don't accept that. not everybody will think about his "trans people opinions" (whatever those are). i can prove this 100%, because i don't think about his "trans people opinions". you're wrong.

The fact that he's controversial in terms of those issues specifically and that overshadows anything you intended or said is my central point and is very plain

no, it isn't. just because you say that it is plain, and you say that it is a fact, does not make it plain, nor does it make it a fact. it doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself, or how strongly you feel that you're correct.

yet you're playing around some hypothetical neutrality, magical intention land as if the obvious readings (like of your post) based on that don't exist. They do.

i'm not playing around some "hypothetical neutrality, magical intention land", and i haven't once stated that "obvious readings based on that don't exist". there hasn't been a single time that i've denied that people can interpret what i posted however they want to interpret it. you're wrong. again. and again. and again. you're just making stuff up.

Denying a claim is still making a claim, and choosing to ignore the obvious reading and pretend like it requires mindreading to think it's relevant is also committing you to a certain look. One of avoiding the truth in front of you and rationalization.

what claim have i denied? i don't know what claim you're talking about. i haven't chosen to ignore the "obvious reading". i have disagreed that it's "obvious", and stated that you saying it is obvious does not make it obvious. i don't care if to you have a certain look, because you're so inept at discerning what you are reading that i would be constantly disappointed by your poor understanding of "how i look".

to you i have the look of "avoiding the truth in front of me and rationalization". this is all coming not from my "look" or my "appearance", but from your distorted interpretation of what i've said, which is speckled with your own sick projections and injections onto and into my comments. you see what isn't there, you read what hasn't been written, and you use these delusional perceptions to justify your baseless assumptions about me.

If you naively didn't think about Peterson's trans controversy before, you've made it very obvious that you're avoiding it now.

i don't know what "peterson's trans controversy" is. "peterson's trans controversy" had nothing to do with what i posted. i'm not avoiding "peterson's trans controversy". you're just making this up based on your delusional assumptions about what i've said.

it isn't a simple fact to anyone who has been following his meteoric rise to fame or even hearing about it every now and again. i've listened to his interviews on joe rogan, and i've listened to jordan peterson's podcast. i don't know what issues with trans people that jordan peterson has, or how his great advice about people sorting themselves out and thereby gaining capacity to sort other things out is somehow worth your lengthy tirades against...well, i'm not sure what your tirades are about.

Well, it's really unfortunate that when watching hours long of content you don't bother to think about why that person was brought on, what sort of debates they became famous in, what sort of political viewpoints they're expressing, things like that. I think most people are more aware, and manage to notice how oh this scandal really resulted in many interviews and lots of publicity for this guy.

I'd like to believe that you're not the most mindless person I've met in a while and have actual ability to discern these things, and just wanted to play around pretending that nothing commits them to any positions and that a person you mention being controversial automatically has something to do with what you posted and makes it read differently, and that being exceptionally bad at noticing these basic things makes you look like either a troll or a person on some heavy cool-aid.

But hey, you're right, I didn't prove a lot of those things you note I didn't prove, I did just stated a lot of them. Like I didn't detail how Peterson became famous and what corresponds to what controversy in, say, google trends graphs with detail. That would be a ridiculous thing to do given how obvious it is, albeit for people who don't just gulp hours of content without thinking more critically about what is being said.

Perhaps you're so bad at thinking over these things that that's just not you. It seems you might just be the kind of person who can hear hours of political talking points framing debates in certain ways and then after that pretending that those talking points didn't give up the person's political views. And, of course, managing to link youtube feeds without noticing that significant portions of them have explicit strong views that are controversial in relevant debates, and then pretending that you don't know whether that's the case and you need to be spoonfed evidence that it is, or else it's not your business how it comes off.

"peterson's trans controversy" had nothing to do with what i posted.

Indeed it doesn't, if we live in that magical all-intentions land where obvious readings don't exist.

i'm not avoiding "peterson's trans controversy"

Well, if that is the case, then you accusing me of being inept at discerning what I'm reading has got to be one of the most ironic things I've read in a while.

Well, it's really unfortunate that when watching hours long of content you don't bother to think about why that person was brought on, what sort of debates they became famous in, what sort of political viewpoints they're expressing, things like that.

i didn't watch hours long of content, i listened. i haven't said anything about whether or not i bothered to think about why that person was brought on, what sort of debates they became famous in, what sort of political viewpoints they're expressing, and things like that. you're making that up. you're pretending that i didn't bother to think about those things, and you're using that pretense to claim that most people are more aware and manage to notice something you claim i should be noticing.

being exceptionally bad at noticing these basic things makes you look like either a troll or a person on some heavy cool-aid.

what i've said doesn't make me look like a troll. you are imagining me as a troll. it is all in your imagination. i have been clear, direct, honest, and patient through this entire conversation, even as you've invented and fabricated positions and opinions and attributes for me, and then attacked those fabricated things.

Like I didn't detail how Peterson became famous and what corresponds to what controversy in, say, google trends graphs with detail.

just because you state how jordan peterson became famous doesn't mean that that is how jordan peterson became famous. just because you show a google trends graph doesn't mean that your opinion of jordan peterson's issues with "trans people" is correct or accurate. if your behavior of fabricating and inventing positions for me is consistent in the rest of your life, then you're not a reliable person for determining the positions of others.

Perhaps you're so bad at thinking over these things that that's just not you. It seems you might just be the kind of person who can hear hours of political talking points framing debates in certain ways and then after that pretending that those talking points didn't give up the person's political views. And, of course, managing to link youtube feeds without noticing that significant portions of them have explicit strong views that are controversial in relevant debates, and then pretending that you don't know whether that's the case and you need to be spoonfed evidence that it is, or else it's not your business how it comes off.

i linked to jordan peterson's youtube because it was one of the first results with a collection of his content that was easy to access. i haven't actually watched any of his videos on youtube. i told you that i have listened to him on the joe rogan podcast and i have listened to the jordan peterson podcasts (which are available if you search for them). whether or not somebody has strong views that are controversial is irrelevant, just like this developer's sexual or social or whatever identity is irrelevant to my original post. jordan peterson's opinions about the sexual/social identities of others, which i am unfamiliar with, are irrelevant to the quality of the content he provides in relation to achievement and success at realizing desired outcomes. you are injecting the nex developer's sexual/social/whatever identity into this conversation, not me.

you also claim that significant portions of them have explicit strong views that are controversial in relevant debates, but just because you claim this does not make it true. my opinion of your capacity for reading comprehension and basic causal reasoning so far shows me that you have the bad behavior of projecting and injecting imaginary demons onto and into the statements of others, so i do not accept your statements that jordan peterson is a "bad guy" who has issues with "trans people", because not only have you not earned my trust, you've actually convinced me that i should enact active skepticism with what you say. again, this is due to anecdotal experience from this conversation, wherein you've repeatedly fabricated and invented positions for me, and then attacked those fabricated and invented positions.

Indeed it doesn't, if we live in that magical all-intentions land where obvious readings don't exist.

the magical all-intentions land where obvious readings don't exist is totally irrelevant to whether or not jordan peterson's "trans controversy" has something to do with what i posted. it doesn't. the only reason that you claim it does (and i don't even know if there is a jordan peterson "trans controversy") is because you have assumed the sexual/social/whatever identity of the nex developer, and have injected your assumption of that developer's identity into my post. you are the source of your own issues with my post, not me.

Well, if that is the case, then you accusing me of being inept at discerning what I'm reading has got to be one of the most ironic things I've read in a while.

the funny thing about you calling it ironic is that you calling it ironic is the actual irony of this conversation. sort yourself out.

(and i don't even know if there is a jordan peterson "trans controversy")

The only controversy is that extreme left snowflakes think because peterson is against things like compelled speech (bill c-16), he obviously hates gays, transgendered, etc. To merely even question the necessity of such a piece of legislation is an act of aggression in the eyes of the sjw. I haven't watched a ton of his interviews and talks, but I have watched some. So, maybe I've missed his anti gay and trans tirades. But, I fail to see what he talks about as being against gay and transgendered people. Then again, I'm sure anyone not triggered by what peterson says is alt-right in their eyes.

Maybe if this "woke" individual could enlighten all us peons and provide some examples of something that is just oh so obvious that might help. But, yeah, I have a feeling it's more about projecting and assuming than it is about comprehending.

extreme left snowflakes

Like the government, courts, a bunch of lawyers (all that I've heard) commenting on this issue and more?

what does it even mean for you to be the extreme left?

I guess since all of them are the extreme left, it makes sense for you that it isn't controversial. For everyone who doesn't consider all of these the extreme left, the issue is controversial. It would also make sense to notice how and why Peterson got popular in the first place - it was all about C-16 from the beginning.

Then again, I'm sure anyone not triggered by what peterson says is alt-right in their eyes.

Funny you say that after your bit with the extreme left snowflakes.


Anyway, I very much doubt you understand him better than I do, it's just that I bothered to not assume it's all just right and common sense and bothered to check if the experts in relevant areas agree.

mental disorder is the one and only correct view.
Anything else is pandering.

It's guns that are the problem, not the mental state of people or the country.
It's perfectly fine to have deranged people running around nilly willy.
Can't have guns though. Even thought they're an inanimate object that has no consciousness, can't move or make decisions on their own.
It's not crazy people, it's guns.

Let's ignore the core of the problem and cater to peoples feels.
Lets rearrange society for the crazies by playing along with their charade of mental instability.
I played echo the dolphin on atari 2600. I wanted to be a dolphin so bad.
My parents told me to fuck off.
I could never be a dolphin. No matter how many fin grafting surgeries, blow holes, squeeky voice augmentations, or dolphin hormones I had/took.....
I could never be a dolphin.
Thanks for beating me dad!

Quality post! :D

I wonder how much of this stuff is memes and how much of it is your serious opinion. Sure, this here is a joke, but something tells me people that paste these most of the time get their views from... stuff that isn't much more serious than jokes.

I mean, the objective science disagrees woth it being a mental illness. Its not my fault they find me attractive and want my jucy tranny peepee.

(((objective science)))

The fact they do find it attractive is due to degeneracy and perversion, that in combination with moral decay. People nowadays keep wanking it to pron and continuously need more extreme stuff to get off of it. Then they claim it's normal and a healthy habit. Yeah, masturbation is, porn ain't.

They are unaware to the hazards it does to your conscience, hormones and sensitivity. We keep getting numbed down to the point we think it's normal to act in such a perverted matter, so far to say that 'objective science' says it's not illness.

Believe me if I say that if we didn't get the exposure to damaging content and imagery we would shiver at the thought of fukin a transgender, and many other terrible stuff we deem as normal nowadays.

Preach much? Who says "we" don't shiver at the thought? Or is it simply that you don't? But even if I do, I have enough humility to not assume any high ground based solely on that small fact. Have you considered how many people shiver at the thought of fukin you? It's ok if you think you've figured out what the world's moral problem is, but please don't go all "believe me" on people around you. Fukin preachers

while I do find some trannies attractive, frog faced ones aren't among them.

Also, after son1dow crusaded for you so hard here, will you let him eat da poo poo?

it's all my opinion.
I think therefore I am.
it all starts from the mind.

Peeners an vageeners are reproductive organs.
Sexuality is mental. The skin is the largest organ of the body.
The skin can be aroused, sexual and sensual. It has no baring on reproductivity though.
Sexual stimulation at it's core is a chemical action/reaction that is primal instinct.
How this base instinct manifests itself through sexual fetish is all mental.
The basic desire is to fuck.
Everything other than the physical feeling revolves around thought and interpretation.

It's mental.

It's not mental only. Try starving yourself or try plummeting your T production like OP does and kiss your sex drive goodbye.

Mine still stayed, interestingly enough.

are you here because neogaf was taken out by a shower rapist?

That's what he is saying... you have a joke of an opinion

dude you should totaly like work on a teen hotline

What's the 411 on ur 'rents, dudette!?

god you are sanctimonious

no, i'm not.

u r

or maybe he is simply exaggerating the drama to bolster his own self-confidence

this is also incorrect.

Hi, I do remember your project, I've kept an eye on it in the past.

I just wanna say that I do understand your pain about making arena shooter that would satisfy modern players. And btw that's a smart move to switch from Unity to UE4.

Good luck!

glhf!

Good luck, hope you make it work!

Thank you! I hope we can too.

Why? There's no reason to make another Reflex.

I thought the game looked interesting in the movement videos. Nice to see it being revived. I think its going to be tough, but if you enjoy doing it then it'll be worth it. Best of luck!

It will be, for sure. Though, if we can get over a few expected hudles I think we will be okay.

Who gives a fuck about her appearance (She's obviously female so don't fuck about) it's about the game.

I'd be interested in Project Nex, but unfortunately it's another arena fps shooter which the market is oversaturated with (if profit is what you're going for).

But good luck with it and prove all the haters wrong.

H E R
E
R

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

The feminine appearance and feminine voice is a dead giveaway

I would not be surprised to see some tranny porn in your browser history.

You'd kill yourself faster than find anything :^)

INCOGNITO MODE, BITCH!

The genre is dead and this is nothing more than to grab some fleeting headlines. Give it 6-12 months and this project will be dead again.

/thread

I mean, it's not that we haven't seen the very same thing happens tens of times already, and countless if we count all games genres.

Op just wanted some attention, maybe he's actually serious about doing all that, but the project won't see the end, and even if a mediocre mod will ever be produced, it'll be like quake champions: dead on arrival.

If Id/bethassda couldn't do it pandering to anyone and their dogs, figure op.

from the usage of her words, Id say she was a male before, her voice sounds female though

sad state of comments here...

gl hf

The best of both worlds.

I thought hermaphrodites were the best of both worlds?

as you know I'm not shy abusing people but let this poor guy live. For me the appearance was convincing I saw much worse real women that he pulled. This project is gonna no nowhere probably and I more or less agree with qmau. The tranny bashing not at all though. Which he haven't done. So I agree with qmau xd

at first i was like :^)

then i was like :^(

but then i was like ;^)

Interesting that someone who would call me 'he', agrees with another poster tranny bashes.

I'm happy you are interested. If I could hold your interest more, I would say that I think it is too much suicide in the trans community for me to say that it isn't a case of a mental illness. And I know that there are experts on board with this. For me, your biological gender has not changed and I'm not gonna go into your cute call he a she etc, I'm from europe. However I can call you linda or samantha whatever nick you chose dude. I'm not gonna vote against your basic human rights ever you can rest easy or take part in something that I find hurtful like some commenters here did. I went out to support you however you color it. I'm not gonna pamper you, or use made up pronouns and the likes. I utterly don't care about how you handle your life and I want the same back. Btw, if you read my comment history you can be really assured that I went hard out for you here. I'm really perplexed (I'm not) how you poked me after I tried to deflect some of the negativity. It is awesome that you genuinely thought that alienating someone that has a modicum of sympathy toward you is necessary but people are people, even if they look a girl but they are guy. As I'm reading my comment, you done a great job I hope you feel the world is in its rightful place now.
Lastly don't hold me to standards you yourself can't measure up to or in a blink of an eye I call you a fucking hypocrite.
I suggest ceasing communication altogether. Good luck in life and work.

It's honestly pretty ridiculous that you think you are accepting of or "going hard out for" the person while at the same time denying them the very simple act of being referred to as whatever gender they wish to be referred to. Of course biological gender exists, but what someone identifies as or would like to be is an entirely different question, and it need not necessarily be determined by the presence or lack of a wobbly sausage between the legs. And you know, if the person wants to be referred to as she, why not? And if that's too much of a problem for you, just use "they" for every person where it is ambiguous. It's about not constantly reminding people of the physical reality that might go against their wishes.

You need some Jesus, nigga.

PEACE! =]<*~~

I didnt know how he wanted to be " referred " personally but it would be best if we refer males as he.
I think even if I don't get 100/100 support points for this he can gtfo , at least I tried to show some support.

Anyways: "It's about not constantly reminding people of the physical reality that might go against their wishes."
So they wish to live in lala land and I'm the dream crusher. Honestly I'm exactly that person. This lala crap is what makes the world bad in my opinion. Every religious man lives in lala land, should I respect their stupid shit as well? I'm not gonna. Fuck them. Fuck you.
You see how kind I was? Or should I elaborate more?

You sound like the kind of guy to ask for a manager when you can't use your two dollar off cupon on Poptarts.

At least you are what you eat, assholes.

never in my life I used a cupon but otherwise I'm not shy telling my opinion.
I told you, didn't I, I was very kind there. I had near perfect self assessment. You had to push it even though I told you in no uncertain terms. Oh well

changing engines ... reminds me of DN4ever ... will be a lot of work

"Love it or hate it, we are trying to revive it back from the dead."
You'll have to explain me how you revive something that has never lived in the first place, dickgirl

Who touched you as a child? You seem to have a lot of pent up anger and NaCl. Hope you can work through whatever is troubling you.

Solid projecting 8/10.

I'm not as good at projecting certain UV layouts as I would like.

Also if I can revive my dick back from the dead (with all the estrogen), I can revive Nex from the dead.

USA...

TFW FR > US...

The part about being worried about being too much like UT, since UT4 popped up:

You don't need to worry about UT4 at all. They have pretty much abandoned development of the game now. (the 3-4 devs that were doing UT4 part-time have been moved to Fortnite)

And it's not like UT4 was ever gonna be released in our lifetime anyway - even if the 4-5 devs stayed with their little sideshow.

*edit*

Watched the video before reading the comments here.
Did NOT notice this was not a girl (or should I say; did not see she had been a boy previously)

Anyway, what's up with all the hate he/she gets? (the video made a lot of sense tbh)
We need more girls in this world. All power to him/her.
Best of both worlds, as someone here commented. ;)

Anyway, what's up with all the hate he/she gets? (the video made a lot of sense tbh)
We need more girls in this world. All power to him/her.
Best of both worlds, as someone here commented. ;)

I think that they are trying to go with what they see as the 'easiest' route to try to hurt me. Doesn't work. I get hit on all the time and do well enough for myself.

They probably don't like being attracted to someone that goes against their world view. Personally I could listen to you all day, if you know what I mean. :P

Quite possibly. I can't tell if they are all in puberty, or like 30+ years old. It feels like I'm browsing /r/incels or r9k. Same mentality. Or they idolize 2GD and think they could ever be as witty or funny as he is.

Dude... No one tries to hurt you.
Laid off the pills.

Good to know you base your value on the amount of times you get hit on. Must be terrible being a victim of harassment all the time, all that unwanted attention you didn't ask for. Poor girl.

I'll give you a heads-up. You took the easiest route in life, pal. Accountability is a tough pill to swallow, that and discipline. It's, as others have stated in this thread a big pitfall between you and this project of yours.

I did? Damn, who knew living in one of the worst neighborhoods in town and working one of the worst dead end jobs due to losing my good one was the easy route.

If you weren't completely autistic, youd have coaught the OBVIOUS facetiousness of the post.

Or are you just jealous nobody wants to touch your neckbeard? I bet you are such a 'nice guy' too. Maybe you should try negging women. Seems like your style haha

You're cute when you're mad.

*pats head*

Did you take a harder route in life and decisively suppressed your desire to be a girl? I mean it must be from experience to speak with such confidence

nah. Just finish your game.

Thats true. I think once Fortnite and a few of their other games are further along they'll swjtch back to UT. I don't know why they decided to start a new UT in the forst place.

1 word of advice, OP. Lay off the estrogen if you want to make an AFPS. I would advise you to lay off of it altogether and try to go back to your core and fix your brokenness you experienced in life. Changing your sex/gender won't fill the void you'te experiencing. Sooner than later you will feel the emptiness and contempt again and start another destructive cycle of decision making.

Stay safe

How much do you charge an hour to be my psycologist? Can i get a perscription of Zoloft? xD

You're only one step away from commiting suicide now, mate.

Just do your best to not end up as a statistic. I'll keep you in my prayers.

sure, nothing else but estrogen level of a team member decisively affects team's capability of making anything. and of course it is estrogen that precludes someone from going "back to your core and fix your brokenness you experienced in life". man, can you be more medieval?

Nice choker, thanks for telling everyone you got a black belt in sucking dick.

Black belt and sucking dick and white sash in wing chun.

good job defending esr from "SJWs" and getting furious at the sight of a transgender person you fucking mongoloids

???

The only ones getting furious over this is the one or two of you that think she needs defending. She's had an account here for several years and already stated she knew what to expect. Haven't seen any real hurtful comments, more like people fucking around like they'd do with anyone else. But of course because she's transgendered we should walk on eggshells around her yes?

Tell her to grow some balls.

*him

*attackhelicopter

sure, others are not furious, they are just being their bigoted, condescending, self-righteous, facetious selfs. Nothing to get furious about. man, I feel you all dislike people for the wrong reasons. you dislike people for what they are instead of for what they do to others. disgusting thread

The original movement looked quite bad, taking the 2k4 problems and amplifying them further.

any update on project nex statuses? i been waiting for the game for years! super happy it's gonna to be finish! :)))

jesus i mean your hope man
it is strong
brings tears into my eyes
wanna hug you until you feel my dick
until you realize you hope in vain


i do this for you because I don't want you to get your hopes high for long yrs again
and only getting another tranny vid at the end :/

aren't you swell going around helping lesser people?

indeed i am

right. as sincerely as "accepting" and "being kind" here before

maybe even more , but I hate to brag brah

another lie. you love it

at least I don't lie to myself :D

TL;DR'd and skimmed through a lot of the replies in this thread.

To sum up, people seem to be either full of shit, completely fucking brainless and/or don't have a heart.
Considering this was posted on ESR, I'd probably say all of them apply.

Getting back on topic, it'll be nice to see what happens going forward.

Mad thing is, life throws us some curve balls, we kicked kicked in the metaphorical balls.
It' sucks, it really does.

It's how we approach the next hurdles in life.

Now, one thing to look at is stop playing the blame game, acknowledge the failures, chalk it up to experience, I mean that's what life is all about, experiences. There's no push button to riches/success. You just have to wake up, put the hours in and do the best work to your ability. Surround and attract people who are on the same page as you and just go out and crush it.

Regarding gender and all that other bullshit;

I can fully appreciate peoples views, gay, straight, bi and whatever other combination of sexual preferences there are.

At the end of the day, you are who you want to be, no one can take that from you. Yeah there will be people who argue xyz due to genetics and all that other bullshit, some might even throw religion in to the mix, however they don't have near enough information on how the mind works emotionally.

So if you're happy in the skin you're in and you're expressing yourself in whatever way and form, do what makes you you, what makes you feel good and the hardest thing to do in life is;

Don't give a single fuck about people's opinions about you; You are not someone else's opinions. You are yours and yours only.
Much love. <3

"So if you're happy in the skin you're in....."
"expressing yourself in whatever way and form"
"do what makes you you, what makes you feel good"

Obviously not happy in their own skin, hence the need to change it.

Self expression is actually a negative thing. It's people trying to stand out and be unique in the crowd for doing useless things like dying your hair or dressing a certain way. It's retarded. Self expression is for talentless retards who have no other way of being recognized by their peers.

Doing what makes you feel good is stupid.
Lots of things feel good that aren't actually good for you.... like crack or heroin.
The "do whatever makes you feel good" is the mentality that's got us here in the first place.
Pain is a normal part of life. We have an emotional range for a reason.
Struggle is a normal part of life.

There are such things as mental disorders.
A disorder doesn't make you a bad person.
It just means you have an extra bag of shit to deal with in life that most don't.
It doesn't determine your worth.
Your abilities determine your worth, not self expression.


If the OP had made the post/video about the actual game he's working on instead putting the majority of focus on himself and his new look.... This would probably be a different thread.

"Self expression is actually a negative thing. It's people trying to stand out and be unique in the crowd for doing useless things like dying your hair or dressing a certain way. It's retarded. Self expression is for talentless retards who have no other way of being recognized by their peers."


I always tried to explain this to people
huge ear ring hippy retards are the best, imo they look and act the part perfectly

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/image..._think.jpg

ps: gobotz is the truth
dropped a fucking wisdom bomb there and I mean the whole post

So you want to circle jerk and just do whatever everyone else doing basically?

I mean if that chills you out then, sweet. Go for it.

Gobotz had valid points but not nearly as convincing as he'd want it to be.

That's the beauty of everyone else's thoughts. They can share it, people might resonate with a few things but there's no real need to go and say xyz is right because of abc.

It's a matter of choice and personal opinion.

Stephen ! You know me! I'm always the first to please here on esr. I'm a people pleaser a crowd favorite

I would have written the same. So Gobotz is me and I'm close to perfect as you know so he is beyond critique as far as I'm concerned.
I'm a bit sad that you left out foreplay in our relationship however- I thought by now you also know how sensitive and caring I am.
Gonna stroke his dick whenever I can first and then jerk it. Clean up when he finished then we gonna watch a movie together.

"eople might resonate with a few things but there's no real need to go and say xyz is right because of abc."

[...]It's a matter of choice and personal opinion."

my personal opinion you can read above and my choice was to handle out a compliment on his general view of the world and personal values. I can tell you he is not wrong a bit.

So it is all well in your book, no real need to go and say that gobotz isn't right because of abc
I wish people just let us feel the harmony and not abc which are simply letters that could mean anything you want :/

Luckily you have an ability to interpret what I've said, which is exactly what I stated, opinions and thoughts on various topics are always open for interpretation.

As for the "So Gobotz is me and I'm close to perfect."

Pretty much lost all respect for you, I guess taking anything more that you write with a grain salt going forward.


"I can tell you he is not wrong a bit.

So it is all well in your book, no real need to go and say that gobotz isn't right because of abc"

So looks like only yours and his opinion is valid, you're the master race and everyone else who has a converse opinion or thought on any subject is disregarded.

Damn, kind of reminds me about how Russia is run, It's okay though, I'll let you do you.

Have fun. :-)

" Pretty much lost all respect for you, "

just now? You mean you had it at some point? I'm amazed






" opinions and thoughts on various topics are always open for interpretation."

they certainly are

"So looks like only yours and his opinion is valid"

blablabla, go to sleep. This is the direct ridiculing of your position that you must respect ppls opinion because they have feelings and self expression like those hold some kind of inherent value*.
So then, my opinion about myself or gobotz etc must be respected and accepted because you know ppl might " resonate " no need to say im not right because of abc
you just have no right to judge how i express my precious myself sir
i demand my safe space
you are a nazi sir because you dont open for interpreting my opinion as the only true and valid like i feel it is

*which they are obviously not, and thats why we are serving the ball Gobotz and dre
if I may say so, the only one here who patently not right is you, first accusing me of dick sucking because I appreciated something he wrote, as if I regularly go around pleasing guys here which is bordering on absurd even if you take a glancing look at my comment history

damn, what you wrote kind of reminds me of some stupid shit , it is okay though

ps: Russia is fucking awesome

You're just pandering about with the same reasoning behind everything you reply to.

Like I said, apparently all of us aren't allowed to have opinions that differ from yours and you only respect Gobotz's as if he is the G.O.A.T.

Anywhore...

I'm done. Good night. :)

I'm ridiculing your line of thought that does nothing that would resemble a mature argument.
Your value system is shallow. You stupidly take everything literally even when I signaled that I was humoring your silly good for nothing arguments at least two times in a row.
Your kind I found very interesting. You do the same shit that us, but you do the pandering part with politically correct wording, being tactful but behind it you are the same argumentative shithead like any of us - you just dont have the backbone to be direct . Add to this, that what you presented is stupid and lacking in common sense and that, even you dont have the slightest inclination to adhere to it, and here we are :D

"Obviously not happy in their own skin, hence the need to change it."

You don't understand the expression;

If you aren't happy with anything, you have the ability to change it, the end of the day, you are you, so fuck people and their stupid judgements.

Unfortunately society dictates that you have to be, look and feel a certain way otherwise you're strange.
If you don't conform then you're a weirdo etc.

So na, I'd rather not be a sheep and do whatever I want, and not give a fuck about what other people think about me.

"Self expression is actually a negative thing. It's people trying to stand out and be unique in the crowd for doing useless things like dying your hair or dressing a certain way. It's retarded. Self expression is for talentless retards who have no other way of being recognized by their peers."

Self expression is incredibly positive, I honestly don't think you understand the physiological side of what happens when you embrace certain things. Yeah it might not be to your liking, remember, people don't need to do things to make you get your approval. They do it for their own sake. IF doing something makes you feel better, mentally then do it.

Getting recognition of peers, I can't help but find that little statement about wanting validation a rather stupid one to throw around, it's like someone who has daddy issues and they go out of their way to do things to try and get attention of others. People do that shit all the time in different scenarios so how is it different in this case?

"Doing what makes you feel good is stupid."

So doing what makes you feel useless, depressive and in a constant change of hatred should be the alternative route?

I don't know if you're purposely trying to actually pull the negative out of anything, maybe it's a self projection you have for people wanting to better themselves, I dunno man. You seem to be the one that wanted to do things in life and were constantly shut down and now you want to belittle others for having the balls/ovaries to put themselves out there.

I agree pain is a normal part of life, we have to go through it to grow as a person.

Struggle however is not a normal part of life, people are too stubborn or proud to ask for help, you'd be surprised what can happen if you put your ego aside and actually pony up and reach out to someone.

"There are such things as mental disorders.
A disorder doesn't make you a bad person.
It just means you have an extra bag of shit to deal with in life that most don't.
It doesn't determine your worth.
Your abilities determine your worth, not self expression."

Yeah, we all have them, how do you overcome them? Do you embrace them? Do you self-medicate? Do you acknowledge your faults and just roll with it?

Abilities determine your worth is the same go to school, get good grades, get a degree and get a job, work a 9-5 for 60 years of your life mentality, which hey, might not float everyone else boat.

Self expression can be used as a catalyst to create something much bigger than the usual shitfest we are raised to follow.

Lastly;

Yeah maybe the OP has structured things wrong in the post and given people what they wanted initially, but that's just chalk and cheese at this point.

At least give the person credit for actually stepping out and doing what 99% of people won't do without validation of their peers or feelings.

I see, so this is the abc you talked about
I liked it more when I imagined that those letters hide valid arguments

Do you feel the dissonance? If one lets say dyes their hair because of a "mental disorder" that doesn't determine their worth. But man does it make them a talentless retard. Thanks for the chuckle

And your analogy is a false one. Some surely do that with the hope for better chances to be happy when other circumstances are right, not to feel good right there and right then, like with drugs. And I mean happiness as in overall emotional well-being (even when sober). Surely some think their chances are 0 otherwise.

And thanks for your valuable opinions on mental disorders. Another chuckle.

you chuckle too much
check your underwear , sometimes piss comes out when you chuckle too much

meet john. John has red hair and a blue striped shirt.
John eats glue out of the bottle at lunch.
John is unique and special.

Meet Todd. Todd is a child prodigy theoretical physicist.
Todd doesn't care what he looks like. Todd has real world problems to deal with.
Todd ripped a hole in space time and now we live in another dimension.
Todd saved the universe.

John is just as special as Todd.

I'm sorry, you might have lost me in your sagely wisdom. Which one of the insightful opinions of yours this truism is supposed to reinforce? (of course, this being a truism depends on your definition of "special", which I suspect means "unique" here, although you do have a bit of a tautology in the first paragraph then)

Don't make bring Big Sheila into this.

the commentators made it about her appearance. i thought the video was fine - focus was on the game and an acknowledgement of the elephant in the room.

whatever you think about it, it doesnt justify people diagnosing mental illness or determining someones "worth" over the internet

No ones determining anything.
I was pointing to the fact that clothes, hair, etc etc are stupid things to judge a person on and stupid things for an individual to use to stand out in the crowd. Be judged on your merits.

Do you think fashion is important?
Visual attraction.
Attention for doing nothing other than wearing colors and or patterns.
Not something noteworthy enough for a Nobel prize.

What your positive capabilities are and how you treat people. That's what matters.

Two pairs of pants with the front and crotch missing. sewn together facing each other so husbands and wives everywhere can wear their pants together. Like those weird bikes.
In Liberal households, the wives do the walking.
That's Nobel prize material.

Your posts here are less important than fashion. Live by your words and stop posting.

In conservative households, the hypocrites do the talking.

your breathing is much less important than fashion though. die and stop posting

As fallacy is a form of lying, this is just another of your lies

What fallacy you simpleton? have you checked your underwear? Because silly shit comes out of your mouth, there has to be something there. You think that calling me a liar because I'm cynical of your moronic ideas will make you morally superior?
Using 5 years old kids tactic same one liners you can hear on the school yard
makes you look stupider if thats even possible at all at this point.
ye ye I lie. It makes you look really smart and elegant

somehow you people along with stephen think that using emotions like "i dont respect you anymore " "you liar " will get you something on the internet because thats the level you usually hold a conversation since you were 10 and mum talked you out of stealing money out of her purse to your sex change operation. Thats why you need the safe spaces because matured guys just kick the shit out of you every time until you start to cry for mommy, admins, police, government. But I love bathing in your weak tears. Wish I get more. Worry because no one will save you from the rotten weak darkness inside. Not even blue hair. You are just weak forever and will never amount to more than sad tears until you do that sex change operation and kill yourself.
Fitting end to a worthless life. Until then you can brag that despite the estrogen you can make your dick hard if you really want it, as if it is an accomplishment - I can do it in my sleep what you get a pat on a back from the other miserable losers around you

lmao what?

I said I respected you because on other posts on different threads you actually made sense.

Then after reading a few of the replies to people in this thread, either you were just trolling or trying to get a rise out of someone, including myself - I just kind of can't take you serious when you decide to be realistic or troll-like.

So yeah, you can take the replies whichever way you want.

Some people embrace cynicism or criticism, some people prefer positive and more realistic things in life, like I said many times before, we are all allowed to have an opinion on anything, however if you're going to bash someone's opinion then whats the actual point?

Where do you draw the line?

there are two kinds of discussion for me.
One that is factual the other is "opinions".
I don't care about the second the same way as the first.
When I take something seriously I cite sources and make an effort to refute claims.
What can be refuted here, feelings?
Positive and more realistic? Give me a break. you have an ideology that goes against mine.

Yeah, so because your ideology doesn't gel with mine, it gives you a reason to shit talk and troll mine whilst I remain respectful towards yours?

I mean I guess that's how some people respond in certain situations. Like I've said before, I've not got anything against your views and it's always interesting to see peoples thoughts and opinions, you just need to draw the line and try and remain as respectful as possible (To a certain degree.) I mean that's what forums are for, to debate or discuss.

On the other side, if someone has/is being a cunt towards you then feel free to return the cunti-ness in kind.

What the fuck are you talking about, you leaned on me first, you were personal first, you talked about me, and not what I said man. You wrote that Im pandering (still lol) you mentioned whore in this context, you said you lost respect, which is attacking me the person and not the ideas, mentioned russia, goat etc is that respectful in the country you are from? then I said it is stupid shit and now you think you are a clean white sheet here and remained respectful? Do you even read your own comments or just bask in the white light you emit when you are writing?


I mean I guess that's how some people respond in certain situations.

Ye it is you in this situation. You attack my character and then you are respectful and play some kind of victim after Im stalin and a whore in one person and then you are teaching me about respectful conduct. Just read the fuck you wrote and get off the high horse.

interesting to see peoples thoughts and opinions, you just need to draw the line and try and remain as respectful as possible

Respectfully calling someone a pandering whore dictator , yes.

On the other side, if someone has/is being a cunt towards you then feel free to return the cunti-ness in kind.

Yes I'm thinking along the same lines, how about a fuck you Stephen?

I mean it in a respectful manner ofc

I leaned on you first? WHAT? Go read the majority of your replies to my posts and you'll see your condescending shit written in full steam.

I 100% wrote about what you said;

If I were to talk about you, I would've been flaming you about how fucking stupid you could potentially be and that you're a big shitfest wanker that tries to get on everyone's posts to get a rise out of them.

(See that right there is a bit of passive aggressiveness.)

Yeah, I said you were pandering, hell I could've said you were pussyfooting around and not being direct and just constantly evading a proper reply.

When I said I lost respect, that was 100% in the correct context, so go check the reply you wrote to me and you'll see why I replied that way. I also mentioned Russia because that same response is likened to the same types of things that happen in Russia, like if something is said, that's it, no final change, no let me think about it.

I could've used Communist China as the same comparison.

G.O.A.T = Greatest of All Time, I could've used plain English and said that you were DICK RIDING Gobotz's thoughts and opinions's but see, I'm not that much of a dick.

(You just misinterpreted it.)

Im stalin and a whore in one person and then you are teaching me about respectful conduct.

You're playing the victim there, not me. I haven't likened you to Stalin or a whore.

Respectfully calling someone a pandering whore dictator , yes

^ Didn't say that. Now you're just making shit up.

Yes I'm thinking along the same lines, how about a fuck you Stephen?

I mean it in a respectful manner ofc

Cool by the pool my friend.

<< Comment #153
1st comment by me, NOT towards you

sTPHN - Reply to #153
So you want to circle jerk and just do whatever everyone else doing basically?

= accusing me pandering, attacking my character , the comment is straight to me
note that you used circle jerk which is the way I interpret english, is derogatory in itself

Comment #158
dre

sTPHN - Reply to #158

Pretty much lost all respect for you, I guess taking anything more that you write with a grain salt going forward.

= ad hominem, attacking the person

you're the master race : personal attack

kind of reminds me about how Russia is run

like I'm some kind of dictator you imply with master race (Nazism) + Russia : personal attack

Comment #162
dre

sTPHN - Reply to #162


You're just pandering <-- repeating your stupid shit here again but this time "respectfully" pity this follows

Anywhore... <--- you escalate here so you felt the need to say it this specific way, the context is that I'm pandering

somehow I think this is lacking respect.

both personal attacks.

---------------------------------

Didn't say that. Now you're just making shit up.

Yea you did. Just demonstrated it.

ps: I know what goat means you fucking hypocrite.

Right, so I guess in the way I've written you've taken it as personal attacks, which is totally understandable.

<< Comment #153
1st comment by me, NOT towards you

sTPHN - Reply to #153
So you want to circle jerk and just do whatever everyone else doing basically?

= accusing me pandering, attacking my character , the comment is straight to me
note that you used circle jerk which is the way I interpret english, is derogatory in itself

That was a question but if you took it as a personal attack, I'm sorry. I know English can bit a bit shit when it comes to snarky retorts etc.


sTPHN - Reply to #158

Pretty much lost all respect for you, I guess taking anything more that you write with a grain salt going forward.

= ad hominem, attacking the person

you're the master race : personal attack

kind of reminds me about how Russia is run

like I'm some kind of dictator you imply with master race (Nazism) + Russia : personal attack

Comment #162
dre

Again, just a small statement, which basically means I'm not going to take everything you say as 100% truth or seriousness. Hence the Grain of salt saying.

Yeah, I implied that your responses came off as being of superior nature, as in a master race (Probably a shitty way of expressing it but hey, what's said is said the same when I likened your thought process to what generally happens in Russia when they express certain things.)

Again;

Pandering, look up the definition on google, that's not a personal attack.

Anywhore = Anyways, yeah I could've used "Correct" English but why? Gotta mix things up and again, if you took that as a personal attack then I'm sorry.

TL;DR

If anything I have said to you, didn't make sense, or you took it the wrong way and felt like I was attacking your character, then I honestly do apologise.

I know I am a cunt, but always within reason, like most people, if someone talks shit to me then I go off sometimes.

So again, if I did attack you, I'm sorry. It's water under the bridge now.

not gonna get into the english language that deeply but I'm confident that I have near near native understanding considering these expressions, of course my writing is much worse. I know what pandering means etc.
I don't buy your reasoning at all, everything you wrote is coherent from a specific viewpoint. I respect that you at least apologized.

check ur privilege

first thing tomorrow i swear

h e r
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yeah i knew you guys would like that

<3

gay post

all in all i'm just waiting for one of these idiots to finish their god damn game.
these people
2good
syncerror.

somebody finish their shitty game!

I couldn't help but notice there's a strange bump in the middle of your neck. You should have a doctor take a look at it.

You might be onto something...

that's where all the testosterone goes

Thanks for the announcement, I hope the development goes well. I haven't seen any decent FPS worth playing, but I liked UT, originally, and to be honest, I like the positive outlook. More things are accomplished out of enthusiasm than out of guilt, or fear of failure, so good luck and please post any new content. Also, I'm sure that in the disgusting mess of ignorance and testosterone powered personal attacks here, there is still probably more constructive FPS game criticism than anywhere else. Keep us up to date! ;-)

disgusting mess of ignorance

What ignorance?

Well, if you read the thread, and you don't know, that's a good example.

H u r r
u
r
r

Ignorance= an insult to throw at you due to lack of counter argument.

also people need to learn to read.

When I get info on QC....
I don't want to see Tim Willits bald ass head and that thing that sits next to him that calls himself a game dev.
I want to see the game.

I'm sorry nobody asked you what you wanted prior to sharing something with the rest of the internet.

It's cool.

Demiurge

Thanks for the announcement, I hope the development goes well. I haven't seen any decent FPS worth playing, but I liked UT, originally, and to be honest, I lik

".. but I liked UT.."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXw6znXPfy4

now fuck off then
no wonder you are wet for the tranny's game +++

good luck
*hits tha blunt*
peace (Y)
-fizzle

What'd you do if that was your son?

what would you do

hit tha blunt

=}<0~~~~~~~

a hard trues to accept =]
it is a truth i accept when blunted =]<o~~~
*passes blunt of confusion*

tattoos
lame
look at me