You have a problem.

you uploaded this yourself :p

let's show people how amazing you are :D

or maybe aim assist/aimbot ? :D

48%LG and 68%rail :O

you really are jealous as fuck, LOL

yea it's pretty funny

nah i'm not jealous =)

cause if he's legit, well, then, i'm just amazed by his skills

I mean, this kid is god-like, his aim is something i never seen before :O

i'm still not sure if he's cheating or not. So let's say 50/50 :)

but like i said, if he's legit, then i respect him A LOT :) , and if he's not, then fuck it, another cheater :p

you probably have a love relationship over his lg

i've seen you post stuff about Serious so you must be in love with Serious

just admit!

I'm scared now

i don't see an aimbot anywhere
ins walked into almost all his shots

heartless no offense, but are you kind of blind?

he's just kind of mentally ill/butthurt :*{

:/

yeah i'm mentally ill so what ?

as if it was my fault.

But i'm not butthurt. See comment http://www.esreality.com/post/2567979/n-a/#pid2567979

what mouse/pad are you using? looks like wmo/ something fast

Roccat Kova Plus + A4Tech X7-300MP mousepad @ 400dpi, sensitivity 4.5, no accel (:

hm, interesting! thanks for the reply

See? You can play good with shitty hardware.

Dunno about the kova but the a4tech and crt are god tier

A4Tech ---> God of Dump?

Ever tried one?

Yeah, not just one.

Shitty hardware? Kova + >>>>>>> any ZOWIE mouse anyday.

Elaborate or succomiodicco

I'm not a ZOWIE-fanboy.

Also, Roccat --> let's see in 2 years how good it is. :>

aand it's dead

Lasted longer than expected.

roccat stuff has a ton of smoothing so i have a hard time believing your aim skill

but im bad

they said the same about the DA 2k13 and krait 2k13

i tried the krait 2k13 (which share the same sensor as the DA 2k13) myself and didn't notice any "smoothing"

now i'm back to my abyssus @ 1000hz (instead of 500hz with the krait 2k13) and so far it has pretty much the same feeling.

so my guess would be don't listen to those talking about smoothing. You know, it's like those talking about input lag in the FK/AM. Experience it yourself and you'll see that in fact these mouse "smoothing" and "input lag" might be placebo. Or just theory.

the zowie-fk at 2400 dpi / 1000hz feels much less laggy than any 4000dpi 3090 mice

i don't know how the da2013 feels but it doesn't use a 3090 per se
the deathadder 3.5g feels as smooth as fk at 2400cpi while my kana v2 feels noticeably laggy

oh and also

the roccat kone pure optical is actually an excellent mouse with a very good sensor.

don't really know about the kova+ but i guess it's pretty bad. But still serious is using it cause his older brothers suggested it to him. And he then blindy listen to them. And don't forget that he's only 15 years old. And not playing quake for too long. So his experience regarding the mice is almost non-existent.

I'm pretty sure that he's using a kova because he thinks the mouse looks great and feels right in his hand :D. Fair enough.

but i'm pretty sure that if his bros asked him to try the kone pure optical or any "good-mouse-with-good-sensor" then he would do so and never go back to his kova :).

He reminds me a bit when i was 16 and in love with razer's products. I loved the razer mice back then, because of all the flashy lights and lazer bullcrap sensors with supposedly high precision, which was in fact all marketing :D.

not saying all products from razer are bad, cause actually the DA (any version) the krait 2k13 and abyssus are good mice, but the rest of their products are crap :)

You really think I know nothing about mice? I can assure you I have tried more mice than you have, and I know a LOT.

well i didn't say you know nothing. Ofc you tried multiple mice already, but just not the right ones :D

and tbh i would rather listen to the ESR community or even overclock.net when it comes to mice.

because compared to ESR or OCN you're a newb ;D

So you'd rather listen to someone else's opinion of things than try it for yourself, okay.

I do both. But first I listen to the opinions there at ESR or OCN. Then i try a mouse that they recommend by myself.

It has been working good so far.

I bought the abyssus, which is a very good mouse (not perfect, cause built quality and switches could be better). ESR recommends it.

I then tried the FK, and wasn't disappointed, excellent mouse. ESR and OCN recommend it.

And finally the krait 2k13, which is probably just as good as the abyssus. The opinions at OCN about this mouse have been pretty good aswell.

These 3 mice all have a "pure" sensor in them (no prediction/angle-snapping/accel) which tracks flawlessly. It's either avago 3090 or s3888 or avago 4G, which are known to be one of the best sensors in the market.
And also their shapes and lightness are known to be good aswell.

Without listening to ESR or OCN i bought (2 years ago or more) :
a kinzu v1 and i played with it for 1 year or so, the shape and weight are nice. Built quality is pretty good. But the hardware accel inside the mouse is meh...
I also tried the kinzu v2, but it had low malfunction speed and the sensor seemed a bit buggy.

And i will never buy any XAI/Sensei (or even kana v1) because of shit lazer sensor (or just shit sensor). The only mice i would like to try from steelseries are the kana v2 and steelseries rival. The rest is a big NO.

don't really know about the kova+ but i guess it's pretty bad.

wat

it isn't ?

what sensor in it ? prediction ? angle-snapping ? accel ? laser sensor ?

Point was, how can you say anything about it when you know nothing about it?

http://www.esreality.com/post/2569281/#pid2569352

I was right :) it's not really a good mouse. Decent at best :)

Same sensor as kana v1
But that's not the worst thing, if you google for it's bottom pics you'll understand what's wrong about it

So what mousepads do you find better?

? Um, random? I'm not concerned about my hardware set up I was just curious as to what he was using. His config/mouse settings are extremely similar to mine from like 2 years ago before I got rsi and switched to lowsens.

You got RSI and switched to low sens?

I have too, but I had to ~triple my sens not to absolutely wreck my hands. : /

yea I use around 45 cm/360 with ec1 and essentially lock my wrist in at a relaxed angle and use my forearm for mousing

fwiw I have decently large hands and was using a wmo on icemat at ~18 cm/360 for a few months before the pain really got to me

I cannot get used to forearm mousing. I have to use my wrist - and fingers to fine track. Also reposition the mouse a lot. Now it's ~35 cm / 360 degrees, but with medium accel.

still not quite "used" to it.. it's very frustrating shooting my current accuracies when I used to be able to hit much higher... but the health of my wrists is worth it... just a game.. T_T

in your autoexec you have exec nme.cfg, and in that cfg it says your dpi (actually it says cpi but whatever) is 900

just wanted to point that out. also, still using the kova plus?

ye, I forgot to change that to 400 since i was using my brothers (nme) cfg. Nah, it died this year in january, i'd prolly still be using it though since even the g403 which is pretty much perfect doesnt feel as good.

But a bitch ain't one.

02/03 01:36:45 <Insan3> just smallscreen music on and running forward
02/03 01:36:50 <Insan3> he wanted to beat me, so i gave him the win

He should keep telling him self that, the fact that he was timing both mega and red for +5 mins means he played seriously.

02/03 01:37:11 <Insan3> also I was afk for 4mins
02/03 01:37:13 <Insan3> eating a burger
02/03 01:37:14 <Insan3> naked

02/03 01:38:14 <Insan3> dear athetists
02/03 01:37:23 <Insan3> if me a maccaroani learn computer
02/03 01:37:25 <Insan3> how come god dont exits'?

dem timestampz

90/00 01:33:37 <huehuehue> there's someone famous in mianus

the fact that he was timing both mega and red for +5 mins

u lost me there

SeriousTheBEST

raped

I don't see anything that can't be accomplished by a good human.

It's not like strenx or k1llsen didn't pull off shit like this before.

yeah, but both killsen and strenx did attend multiple lans, and are actually considered duel players, not ca gods.

k1llsen is not a ca god? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???

hes just a passive aim turret in CA, disregard teamplay and go for survival, ie duel/tdm style. this is what most duellers do though.

straight up ca is more a thing for those who have played ca/ra3 for way too long, meeting up and duke it in in 10 seconds :>

Whatever he is and however he does it, he still owns, no?

true dat :>

(altho i have to admit, shuffling with a 2600 elo'er will more often than not, give him all the beginners on this team, rendering teamplay near impossible)

SEE BRO? HES THE HERO OF TEH NOOBZ.

))

Serious should re-upload the video because there is a problem with the sound, all I can hear is "Impressive".

Do it on lan (c) czm

I remember Av3k raping ins on ztn while chatting with stermy and all, so don't see why this wouldn't be possibiru

loooool the dumbest comparison I've seen in my life.Avek at "serious" age was after few lan tournaments.Maciej is top4 duel playa so stop offend him by that kind of comparison

looool

Hahaha xD

ahahahahah

it was far from raping.

lol I would call that careless comeback a real rape. :'((

that 0:52-53 pro wh moment when he realises he shouldn't show himself immediately :)

> one of the most common traps in ztn (at least in mid/high level play)
> hiding there means WH!

I recently watched one of my own demos with r_shownormals 1 to see if there were any suspicious moments in a demo of someone I knew wasn't hacking. Turns out there were tons of them. There was actually a moment where I was out of control and I decide not to go in a room at the last moment and with r_shownormals 1 I could see my opponent was entering that room right before I went in. So ye, one suspicious moment means shit.

Cheating is encouraged in this game, apparently. Pathetic.

all aim, nothing new

Got the job done, no?

yea

Not impressed. Didn't look like ins was trying.

Ok, Serious...go on LAN pls. :)

What LAN? You think I'd waste money to prove something I don't even need to, rather do something smarter in life than playing this bullshit game with a bullshit community.

If you are that good, someone will sponsor you.

I'm not good at duel, I just have good aim.

yeah, just not worth you going when you only go 14-10 vs evil

thing is evil is not good at duel either, he just has good aim + decades of experience

lol

trolo :DD

evil clearly joked around and messed up with him in that game. Or you think he go vs 100/100 with granades twice in serious games? etc, etc

he does that all the times

it's not 2004 anymore

You may still not have provided evidence that you were not cheating but you do continue to provide countless evidence that you are a complete idiot.

How am I the idiot? I can't prove that I'm not cheating just as you can't prove that I am. The only way to solve this is by me attending a LAN which I don't see happening anytime soon.

why not?

No time. School, guitar competitions... the only tournament which fits my schedule is QuakeCon but there's no way for me to go alone.

I'll go with you :)

Dunno.. are you by any chance a Catholic priest?

think ur user level just changed to pedofile doe

dont waste your time on a game that has no profit in it
rather focus on guitar and be rich : D

What if he really does cheat at quake, though?

How can anyone ever trust his guitar playing, then?

He could end up famous for guitar, and then suddenly, one night on stage at his concert, something happens and his mp3 guitar track gets stuck on a fucking 3 second loop.

He could end up being the Milli Vanilla of guitar players! GIRL YOU KNOW ITS GIRL YOU KNOW ITS GIRL YOU KNOW ITS GIRL YOU KNOW ITS

You are 15 and probably wank 2 hours a day so time is no excuse here.

I'm actually quite busy.

wanking :D

You like the thought of it, don't you?

He is not 15. he only pretends to.

lol

If you don't want to go to a LAN that's perfectly fine and you don't even have to justify this, but giving this cliché answer about doing something smarter with your time than playing this bullshit game with the bullshit community is really dumb.

You have played for more than 2 years, clocked more than a month of playtime, you have close to 8000 games which means you are close to 10 games a day so clearly, and contrary to what you are saying, you'd rather not do something smarter with your life than to play this bullshit game.

And apparently you are quite fond of this bullshit community too since you are still appearing on ESR to waste your valuable time responding to all the accusations and general drama around you.

And by the way you could easily clear 99% of the accusations without having to attend a LAN, again you don't have to and nobody can force you to do it, but don't act like you are out of solutions.

Clear 99% of accusations? How?

Some people still say that Strenx is cheating today.

Some people here will never accept that someone can be better, that once in a lifetime there is a prodigy or someone more skilled who put more work and did it smartly more efficiently, when you read threads on ESR you clearly see the general state of mind. People here tend to refuse any progress, they don't understand evolution, they don't get how new generations always take over the older ones. To put it simply as soon as they lose they smell that something is fishy. Why do they accept that K1llsen hits 60%-50% LG on ins and don't when Serious hits 48-42%? Anyway the point is you will never get people to stop whining about it, being LAN proven doesn't mean that much anymore to me either, look how many CS/COD Lan players got kicked from events, unless someone is watching you 24/7 nobody will always be able to say that being LAN proven is what it used to be (good job cheat developers, winking at someone we all know for instance).

Let's all just get over it, I don't always agree with jamalz, but he has a good point, I want to see Serious taking Quake to the next level, sometimes some fresh wind can be good, it can motivate the "established" "pro-players", tox might want to give it a shot seriously again who knows, someone like Serious can change the whole game, Strenx in his last interview he is maybe coming back soon (but did he also mean on QL?), that might push all of them to practice seriously, and when you see great games, shits that are so freaking impressive there is only one shit you can think about: "Damn I wanna play like this too", that's how records are set and broken, that's how it is supposed to be done, not everyday doing the same performance, come on people you all make stereotypes about gamers true: lazy, no purpose, no goal, just gtfo move your ass and practice if a kid is making you look like a grandpa who can't track a god damn target on a screen, and put at least as much effort as the guy did... smh.

edit: I agree tho, except one thing, just leave the guy alone, he has nothing to prove, that's a fact, he can do whatever the fuck he wanna do and no one here has the right to say otherwise... get real for once people.

you are absolutely right, but dont forget the increase of real cheating. In year 2014 we can say, that we have seen a lot of unexpected exposes which simply makes everyone so distrustful as you mentioned.

This post is kinda cringe after everything happened. )

If there's a LAN in Prague this year only THEN there is a possibility of me attending.

Would you stay for the whole event or simply leave after the first bad result? :)

Just saying.. because you seem to ragequit quite frequently if you're not on the top of the scoreboard in CA.. so whats up with that?

He's also much younger than most of us, here. I think, if he really IS just that good, some of the older pros would kindly and gladly try and teach him some ways to stay chill =)

So many jellous ppl in this thread so sad
Quakers are probably the people who have the biggest ego's
So its hard for them to accept they are just bad compared to some people. Not only that but their beloved pro players also cant beat serious.
Funny and sad at the same time.

sunny!

actually just a fad

biggest ego? console gamers?

ins a beloved pro player??

he beat other good players not talking about this case in particular

aaaaaaaaaand he is banned.

Getting unbanned tomorrow =(((((((((((((((((((((((

=(((((((((((((((((((((((

innocent until proven otherwise.

what's wrong wit ya'll niggas? quake 3/live came out in 99. It's fucking 2014 now man, that's 15 years that people have been playing around with this game, learning weapons, fine tuning shit.

Every generation has some new superstars that own the previous generation. (except for some legends)

rapha took over from zero4
cypher took over from cooller
strenx took over from tox

The young will always replace the old. It's about evolution. They take what was fine tuned and try to excel at it and improve it. Rapha took everything from coollers game, found holes and made his game stronger. It's just evolution.

Quakelive is easier to aim than in q3. You got crazy new age mice and mousepads and monitors and shit. It's just simpler to hit ridic accuracies.

Don't squash the new talent before they shine. I want to see Serious vs Evil or cypher on lan. And if you fuck up his will to play then we will have another Walter debacle.

Walter was legit and good but took so much shit from the community that he just couldn't play normally. You guys crushed him. You fuckers ROBBED ME OF SOME HIGH LEVEL QUAKE.

YOU FUCKED WITH MY ENTERTAINMENT. DON'T FUCKING DO IT AGAIN. ILL SLIT ALL YOUR FUCKING THROATS. LET ME SEE MY QUAKE.

now you talked some real shit brosef

About walter don't feel so bad man, at least we get to see noctis compete at the highest level i think that's a good compromise.

#Worddap!

Now that's GANGSTA.

Same shit happened in q2.
Granted, Damiah/Purri aren't as active anymore, but the Polish player David came along and like a Borg adopted different playstyles into a scary hybrid monster dueler I've never seen before.

Well, you definetly predicted what would happen.

shurrup already

sorry daddy

50 Best comment for a while, all your jealous fuckers dragging this game to the grave and you wonder why it's dying.

3:23 game clock air rocket before telly. Like kicking someone in the ass and slamming the door behind him.

: D

this guy needs to play more faceys and 125fps for some sweet drama

the egos man, the egos

they're too much

you moving a mouse to aim at something for no money

get over yourselves

After watching this youtube vid it seems official now:
CA Players > Duel Players

Flamemode ON !

Also:
This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_pmt4X0Cqk > *

You still pushing your duel elo by having a friend quitting 0:1 games for you :D?

you and/or your mates still downloading hacks and returning with freshly-made accounts to a server where you just got ownt, just to get ownt again in spite of the hacks? yolo

I never downloaded any hacks).

I really tried, but i don't see any cheating going on with serious, in fact he has a very solid playstyle (ABC game you might say) and I'm playing devil's advocate here.

watched the demo

lg is some fucked up daddy style shit

6:20 lol

adam must like loud little boys. that has to be it

ok, so what it you will just stream your games? at least for once, and there wont be any questions. I dont think its very hard to do.
All this faggots will stfu=>profit. Cheers.

Extremerz/21 used to stream, I used to watch him, never stopped people from spamming support@quakelive.com with cheat reports. It won't stop them. By the way you need a good rig to stream, so maybe that will be hard if he ever tries.

Dem rails at RL, miss, miss, Ok fuckit just use the aimbot -> weird twitch and hit.

The first 5 rails decided the game :> Otherwise its hard to judge from one demo against an opponent, who's given up 1minute into the game. Either the cheat is concealed so well, that it looks almost normal, or he aims so well, that it looks like he's cheating :>
So until proven otherwise I will assume he's godlike :>

Do you give free lessons? :D

lol I love the people telling him to go to LAN

WHAT LANS? THERE ARE NONE

there's no more events anymore except Quakecon. Yeah let's drop over $2000 to prove a bunch of angry nerds wrong

lol

having 91 posts means you know shit about esr

yeah like no one can tell this site is riddled with trolls and nerds within the first five minutes of reading this shit

Well, you are not wrong about that.

But, some people truly believe he cheats. I don't know if he does or not. Most players here are better at QL than I am and some say he's definitely cheating. Others say he is not. *shrug*

Personally, I think those that believe he cheats are not trying to troll, they're trying to rid the game of what they say is a cheaterWell.. okay, some of them probably are!). Myself, I just enjoy ESR and post half-way related questions/comments. =) ESR is a lot of fun, if you don't take it super seriously. xD

if its shit why do you read it? need social acceptance?

secondly, esr is much more complicated than you think, but you cant get it with 92 posts.

nah in the end it's really just a bunch of nerds who think they're special

THEY ARE MKAY?

we in dis 2gedda m8

No cheats, just pretty good CA player.

So, he is banned again haha... :)

omg what happened? xD
p.s this guy is so obviously but I see that most ppl in this forum crawls into he's ass without lubrication. I do not know, you are blind or stupid? whatever xD

it might seem obvious to u cuz ur fucking shit and hit 20 lg
so 50 is like fucking out of this world shit to u
but its not so obvious when you play him and u come close to winning

But you never come close to winning because of aim. Only because he can't play duel too well.

dude im talking 1on1 ca lol

lol learn 2 english

wow ur fucking dumb ur argument is some people are asslicking him
last normal game vs him it was 10 6 when he hit 47 i hit 42
whats ass licking?
considering im not the bestest ever and i got 6 rounds then he sure as hell doesnt cheat

not only you're bad but you talk about something completely irrelevant
good job !
i shorten both you're and your as ur because talking to some guy who is butthurt and mad doesn't really deserve serious grammar.

so from now you're = ur=your, you are truly retarded [+]

I see your best argument is talking about my grammar
Quoting smdfretard:"p.s this guy is so obviously but I see that most ppl in this forum crawls into he's ass without lubrication"
The sentence you wrote is wrong on so many levels
logically,grammatically and just doesn't make sense.
So you use google translator and start looking like a English literature graduate.Truth is you're fucking retarded.
He will never get banned,think about it if 500 people report him
and he isn't banned yet he probably won't be banned ever
+ considering I'm bad as you say and I can get close games against him and lower his acc a bit then he doesn't cheat.

hf with serious ass :)

serious' ass ..

God you're such an idiot.

If I was a cheater i'd be perma-banned, I was banned for using an alt while Serious was banned. Kid

sooner or later you will, for sure :)

Keep dreaming kid.

He isn't Shakespeare, but you can't judge him:

http://i.imgur.com/mUcEvg3.png

lol another "serious"asslicker :)

Just ignore the guy he writes in such a appalling way and ignores logical arguments going at my lazy not trying grammar.

considering im not the bestest ever and i got 6 rounds then he sure as hell doesnt cheat

You should not attack others here if that is your strongest argument.

If you consider this a attack idk
but in a logical way If I don't cheat and I can win rounds from a guy that supposedly cheats then he doesn't cheat
because If he did then I cheat too which I don't
hence my argument.
Btw there was this rpL guy from mad* who would hit 60-70 lg from time to time then he would revert to 30 lg he was banned recently.
Took 3k games for him to get banned but he finally did
If serious cheated considering the amount of games he played
and the amount of times he was reported he probably would have been banned If id had sufficient proof of him cheating.
Last post I'll make in this thread.
Edit:Also considering he has played over 30 thousand games on like 5 diff accounts and assuming he cheated for all those games it doesn't make sense.
Most cheaters just use cheats to get good quickly.

Right now he is banned and no-one official has come out to say why.
This ban was enforced almost immediately after his 3 day suspension for behaviour ended.
Typically they don't discuss bans at all though, Syncerror commenting on his behavioural ban earlier was very atypical.

Secondly 'X isn't cheating because Y beat him' is never a valid proof.

Y could simply have played a lot better still, or X could have not used the cheat as much or at all on that occasion.

I've just seen a post by Serious saying it was for ban evasion by using another account though.

I personally haven't formed a definite opinion on Serious yet but saying "I won vs him so he doesn't cheat" is as weak as an argument as saying "he hits 48% lg in one game, therefore he must be a cheater".

Basically, if you argue on the same low level as those who you call sad and jealous you shouldn't be surprised being called an asslicker in return.

Most cheaters just use cheats to get good quickly.

<devils>
Bunch of people say that's what he did.

Also I know it's not what you're implying here, but number of games means nothing, people play 100,000 games of halo with aim assist they still enjoy it, and winning is addictive It's no different for those twisted enough to cheat to get there.

On top of a common belief that everyone else must be cheating too they seem to end up believing they're actually good a lot of the time.
</devils>

You're pretty rude for a Canadian.

)))

I played quite a few times with him:
http://www.qlranks.com/duel/compare/cha0z_/serious

bare in mind that I won one eyetoeye(don't ask me how.. I was lucky and he jumped a lot+raged), but I aborted the match so he won't whine.

He does a lot of micro corrections(watched on 0.25 timescale) that are hard with any sensitivity on the speedy gameplay in quake and can be done mainly by predicting... but predicting that good all the time vs all kind of dodge/players/aimers?

Dunno, but I can tell you for sure that just few months back he was 1800 elo and didn't hit shit with railgun(no, really - his rail was quite bad). Was simple back then - my lg matched his, because I positioned a lot better, but my rail hit tons more and I won most of our games, because of that. Nowdays his rail is tons stronger and he use it 2-3 times more, hitting hard long range shots with 105 fov and medium sens.

I just find it strange how fast he learned to hit so insanely good with railgun+he use it a lot more in ca too with a loooottttt more hits/higher accuracy than before. Before he was only lg in all gametypes.

Fun fact: he accused me of cheating after losing most of his games vs me and deleted me from ql friends+submitted demo to id to get me banned and when the obvious happened and I was not banned - he invited me again. He is still young, sigh.

just fyi my rail used to be horrid until I found the right settings then I railed 60+ all the time afterwards.. this game is settings heavy imo

I still think he is most likely not cheating. Just sharing my doubts and for what are they.

send me your settings please :p

funy that people like you who have an aim not even close to his replying such bullcrap. everyone can hit 50+ with average ca players.

he hit vs the top 10 QL players not random like u.

i know ur bad but its ok
ive seen k1llsen outaimed by randoms so ur argument about top players is retarded

Poor and weak argumntation...

killsen outaimed 1 out of 100 times yes not all the time by a random.

define random ? :)

cause some people are less known but still can be very good at the game

dude you can keep worshipping pros as much as you want
they arent as good as you think or imagine they are
http://i.imgur.com/Y916mmz.jpg
nothing special

well, av3k isn't really known to be an aim-heavy player. He's more a very smart player with very agressive playstyle. And strong plasma/rockets :D

but his aim compared to stermy strenx toxjq hal and even k1llsen isn't as good

still you almost beat him, wp dude :), maybe a rematch and then bam you beat him ? :)

Name Tag: serious
Account Action: 3 day suspension

lol :O

for what reason this time ?

For using an alt while Serious was banned.

ok :)

This flame is happening because most players in QL play lolCA. He is 15 so ofc he likes CA more than duel , no-brain just "push LG suka" :). If the community was more duel-oriented , there would be far less flame-ing going on just because he sticks to CA and i honestly don't care much if i loose to some shit fag that uses wh in CA. I am not saying that he cheats , but this is way too much debating over some kid that didn't even play at one 125fps or faceit cup. So stick to playing CA against no-brain lg whores , rape the fucks and maybe some of them will start to play duel more... the real quake game-type.

Quake isn't aim. I love hearing this. Rather, Quake is monitoring ELO's and only playing high probability win duels through +back/avoidance and mechanical control? Much more skill than raw aim. The win by attrition, marginally better than a tie and the pinnacle mid level duelers aspire.

If that's no-brain LG you got some serious perceptual problems.

it's ok to cheat in ca (c) nvc 2014

That's what inc said, not me.

01:37 nvc • in my experience with yuka
01:37 nvc • i could feel him cheating against me on qzdm6 tdm
01:37 nvc • before he was banned
01:38 nvc • ask someone who played against him
01:38 esdf • ye km told the similar thing
01:38 nvc • i mean i love ca as much as the next person
01:39 nvc • but if he's just gonna play ca, doesnt really matter
01:39 esdf • ye it does
01:39 esdf • if he cheats, ban him
01:39 nvc • i mean to the point where it doesn't hurt any competitions
01:39 esdf • and don't unban him after a year just cause he's a serbian makin movies
01:39 +inc_ • it's ok to cheat in ca (c) nvc 2014
01:39 nvc • haha
01:39 nvc • i didnt mean it like that

Of course cheaters should be banned (not saying he is), but it's just Clan Arena which has next to no competition. Until he tries to take part in anything meaningful (he hates the game and community....) there's nothing to be won or taken from other players. If competitions want to pre-emptively ban him they still can and if he is cheating, it's just a matter of time until he's banned by Syncerror.

The way Serious goes about responding to accusations would suggest he's unstable, but he's also young and immature. I'd say at 24cm/360 the way he controls his mouse is a little off at times, but then someone suggested he plays on average 10 games per day for 2 years (clearly does love the game), so maybe he's just talented.

TL;DR No idea.

In my opinion, it's even worse to cheat in casual games. Because cheating in competition is somewhat understandable. You wanted to win you couldn't so you cheated. It's bad but it's logical.

Cheating in casual games means you basically ruin other people's fun, but what for? Nothing really. Just your own amusement. I think that's worse.

I suppose I never really looked at it like that, true.

It's definitely worse imo, everyone just about expects that some assclown will try to cheat to win a competition. Whoever is running the competition should be doing their best to keep them clean (enforce demo collection w/e )

On pubs though, it hugely damages the game as a whole, driving away players in droves.

Yes, I left out that important point. It damages the game at its very core. New players will always start casual. If they are met by hordes of cheaters, even if they don't realize that they're dealing with cheaters, they will think the game is too hard, etc. Also, cheaters in competition are eventually caught. For example, it's very hard to cheat at LANs without someone noticing it.

I have a question about your comment regarding demo collection at competitions. Please forgive me if it's not possible:::

Would it be possible for tourney organizers to require players to send their config files to a specific email(say, QLconfigs@DreamHack.com, for example) and then the organizers can just place all of the config files into the QL folders on each tournament PC?

Then, using windows User/Admin settings, they *only* allow players to acces whatever User that has access to only the QL.exe file on the desktop?

Sure, it's some extra work but it would ensure that no player could do anything but sit down at X computer, plug in their mouse and keyboard and push the QL.exe. Then, can't they just load their config in console? And only the player would know the name of their config so they could name it like 'cyphaisdaking212132. or whatever.

Or am I misunderstanding as well as making too much effort for organizers? =)

edit: I have never used more than 1 config in my QL folders at a time, so, I don't even know if having lots of configs at once is possible. Just to be clear :D

At LAN competitions that is pretty much what usually happens.
(not BYOB)

Users don't get to install anything on the machines, the machines are clean from the start.
Configs have to be submitted.

That's why you end up getting pro configs online from posts like :

http://www.esreality.com/post/2465876/quakecon2013configs/

ins wasnt playing, no dodging whatsoever. Why do ppl take this Serious

Heartless LOL at you as usual ...

Quakelive is not real live , you should come back on earth .

And Serious is right , why would he proove something he dont give a f4k ..

If u think he cheats he dont give a fuck , if you think he dont , he cares 20 sec ( cause good for ego ) and then he dont give a fuck as well.

He is maybe 14 , but he realize than quake is just a game so no need to be serious about it , heartless how old are you? and you act like child who comes to cry on esr community ( which is shit ) ...

Make friend IRL you will see its a lot of better , and maybe go find some pussies to fuck :) or maybe u gay?

nice troll i lol'ed :DDDDDDD

Its not everyones goal to drive to a 16 or at max a 32 player lan, where you cant even make it out of the groupstage and lose a shitload of money driving to it.
back in q3 days I was at many lans, because every month there was at least one decent one in my vicinity. then fun you got there was worth the 2 hours of driving and the entryfee. The most of the people playing there werent interested in competing at a big lan.

Nowaydays everyone think with a 40+ shaft, or a simple stereo headset + plus ears, you have to take the next bus to moon, get rid of 500€, and compete at the all star super lan, where you get smasehd anyway, so they still can call you a cheater online.
Every second newcomer or 2k+ elo guy who never heard of you is instantly calling you a cheater.
this shit is robbing the fun from me.
sry for my bad english skills.
randallFlagg

:DDDD

Going to a lan still wouldn't change some peoples opinions kgb won money on lans and still is accused of cheating because he hit like 5 percent less LG, some people are just never going to change their mind unless you become a top 3 dueler in the world like strenx.

true

Well there's your motivation, serious.

To be fair 5% difference is a lot. Imagine adding 5% to your current LG accuracy.

Good thread.

OK you beat ins.

but can you do THIS?

No cheats detected here, just INS getting out played mates.

Glad you finally shared your insights.

Just doing my part mate.

Are the salt levels still rather high?

Serious is my boy.

Ya'll Jellyyyyyy.

serious is one of the world top 20 reflex arena players now... infact I think he is 17th

of the 30 people who play it?

deserved win, put lot of time inthis game, rest lazy bastards

UP UP

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