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Quake Champions Community Stream notes -- Nov. 17 (97 comments)

( Major News: QC)

Posted by Nukm @ 22:24 CST, 17 November 2017 - iMsg

With the December update, the team emphasized their focus on improving the player experience by introducing quality-of-life features, reintroducing the significance of item control, and lowering the barrier to entry.

New Additions

. Duel Ranked Play to be introduced. Other game modes to be introduced at a later date.
. 40 different crosshairs to choose from.
. Max FPS setting to be introduced.
. Team outlines visible through walls. Can be toggled on/off.
. One new Champion to be introduced. No details provided.
. One new duel map to be included. Described as vertical. Also available for FFA, Duel, and TDM in custom game.
. Third person preview animation while loading into map with new champion for the first time. Only happens once per champion selection during the match. During this time player will be invisible & invulnerable.
. You cannot disable third person spawn effect. (For now)
. Winter themed stuff coming, including snow and Christmas lights on maps. First step into season events.

Read what Tim Willits and Adam Pyle have to say about Champion and Weapon Changes, plans for 2018 and more on plusforward.net

Links:

reddit Discussion ::

Third person spawn preview

Edited by Nukm at 22:24 CST, 17 November 2017 - 87881 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 01:22 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Anonymous (50.89.7.71)

Plans for 2018 is unemployment

<< Comment #2 @ 02:01 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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mala - Reply to #1

lol

<< Comment #9 @ 04:58 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #1

lets hope someone above the 2 morons will realize finaly they have to go

<< Comment #3 @ 02:19 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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nsx0r

thoughts and prayers

<< Comment #4 @ 02:49 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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_agu

Finally something relevant.

<< Comment #5 @ 03:16 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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roymagic

they also stated:

- bigger health and armor stacks to make map control more important

- changes with the hit box (make them boxier) so hits feelsmore natural

- lg should hit hard again, but without bug this time

- some champs will gain automatically speed while jumping with just holding forward. they want to do this, to make it easier for beginners to move fast. but they also said, u still reach high speed faster if you are strafe and circle jumping correctly. (sounds good to me. nubs get a little bit extra help, but on mid-high skilled level it wont matter at all)

- when i understood it correctly, they also want to change the spawntimes for health bubbles and small armor. they want increase the respawn duration.

Well, in general i really like the changes. I hope the patch is not making the game worse and unplayable again by this micro stuttering

Edited by roymagic at 03:18 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #6 @ 03:48 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #5

-small items respawn increased from 15 to 30 sec

-Instagib and Clan Arena are a priority for future updates

-Galena and Scalebearer for automatic speedincrease

-Anarki will only be able to reach speedcap with injection only

-slash will be slowed down too

-doom will have a smaller range for his fistpunch

-pummel will be nerfed

-they currently explore other formats for duel e.g. no rounds

Edited by mouse* at 03:50 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #7 @ 04:10 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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g0uken - Reply to #6

Well I be damned.

<< Comment #14 @ 06:48 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #6

"-they currently explore other formats for duel e.g. no rounds"

LOL now that the game is dying they stop being stubborn out of necessity. Fuck them.

<< Comment #18 @ 08:07 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #14

Same with introducing CA next year. Problem is though, those things only really appeal to the mere hundred remaining QL players, when what QC needs is to attract casuals.

On the live stream people were cheering with each announcement, while failing to realize no core issue was addressed. The actual reasons why QC has lost 70% of its paying playerbase on Steam (in mere three months!) and has an abyssmal 42% recent reviews rating. No, the reason why that is happening is not some ruleset in duel that's only noticed by the 300 duelers left in Quake, and no the priority fixes QC needs is not to tweak some numbers yet again. This is the exaxt same that happened in Q4 and QL, and people fail to realize it, and why those two games died after only three years.

All in all, when I read those announcements I read: "The always limited dev time and resources will be spent in cheap to do tweaks and copypasting old mods, and in the next six months nothing substantial or new to Quake will be introduced". That while people cheer woohoo 30 secs green armors!!!!1!.

Edited by megaman3 at 08:17 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #19 @ 08:24 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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principezwatrem - Reply to #18

What are you talking about?

I mean, what are these core issues in particular?

<< Comment #22 @ 08:56 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #19

Lets look at the reviews: http://store.steampowered.com/app/611500/Quake_Champions/

Sorted by most recent, of the past 3 days, not going to skip any to suit any convenience, listing the reviewer name so you can read them if you want. And when you read them, think about if anything of what was announced actually deals with the reported issues:

Results

- Saber engine and loot boxes (by Lawyer Cop)
- Requires $3000 rig to run smoothly (in what's going to be a F2P game). Requires perfect internet connection (QC is always sending extra data to report issues), lack of real tutorials or bots for noobs to practice (by xv1mQL)
- Paying for a game and still having to have to pay more to unlock the characters (this happened on the Humble Bundle that was done) (by ManFeelings)
- Microtransactions (by Victor)
- Lack of servers in the region, lack of ability to spawn local servers or at least play with bots (by Taffey).
- Server performance issues (by Papa_Barstow)
- Having to pay to unlock characters, when getting the game from Humble Bundle or paying for the $10 edition (by ModeSix)
- 30 euro game (very expensive for a Steam game), locked content behind microtransactions, no longer a purely skill based game (by some dude with a Japanese name)
- 8 euros per champion (by Lizzy)
- Humble Bundle or $10 version issue, again (by MrSnitches)
- Game has different champions and abilities. Plus broken engine issues (by Fallacy)
- Can't connect to the game (by DrGoo)
- "infinite loops" (maybe too long matchmaking?) (by The King Possum)
- Game is good, business model is awful (by Dank tweets)
- Netcode sucks, even after six months (by Zeno)
- Doom 2016 is better (by Endeavor)
- QC doesn't show the quality shown in previous Quakes. Poorly optimized, no anticheat, mediocre maps (by Killer Goblin)
- Netcode, champions, no mode without champions, devs focusing on adding more in-game purchases rather than in fixing the gameplay (by a moldy nacho)
- Can't get past the loading screen (by Desert Punk)
- Stuck on loading screen (by Aiei)
- After six months the mouse input still feels horrible, netcode issues, hit detection issues, directional sound issues (my comment here: I don't know how people here don't complain about this. The vertical sound is completely broken; can't tell if the enemy is coming from above or below you), no way to know your feedback is being read by the devs, champions, microtransactions, having to unlock runes (by Ketnar),

edit: BTW I do want QC to succeed. Thing is, I disagree first with id/Saber's approach of spending their limited resources on only focusing on pleasing the remaining hundreds of hardcore Quake enthusiasts (we are not enough for Quake to live), and second with only making cheap to make modifications rather than introducing new stuff to the game and dealing with the core issues that make people quit.

For the next upcoming months the only piece of content announced was one duel map (and who knows if it's even a new map but a remake), and no mention whatsoever about the engine and performance issues. Sure, in the next six months you'll be able to hit LG and not camp the YA area in ztn... but playing the same simple repetitive mods and six maps, with the same issues as ever (no visibility, stuttering, MM and warmup taking ages, etc.). The core still not fixed, nothing new to do. People quit for these things.

Also since I'm posting this on ESR the hardcore community, did everybody here fail to notice that not a single tournament was announced? Competitive Quake Champions lasted three months and one week, and people didn't notice because of the sea of minor announcements, like a whole 40 crosshairs!

Edited by megaman3 at 09:27 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #88 @ 12:06 CST, 25 November 2017 >>

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FTY - Reply to #19

It is not Quake is the number one issue.

<< Comment #66 @ 14:45 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #14

Oh, you mean like Q3A and QL were "dying" for 10 years?

Nah man, if the game gets good, it gets good and players will flock to it or return to it.

Whole ESR was always delusional about their main games...pity

<< Comment #69 @ 18:27 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #66

I meant dying as in late Q3 and QL level of exposure, what for a brand new game with million dollar tourneys is sad.

<< Comment #10 @ 05:01 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #5

difference between noob jump and proper movement will be almost nonexistent regarding speed. another fundametal quake element gone(like it wasnt with tthe 600speed cap)

<< Comment #13 @ 06:05 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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roymagic - Reply to #10

so you are afraid of getting owned by rookies, while u still gain more speed then them with regular strafe movement?

<< Comment #49 @ 14:08 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #13

No, he's annoyed that an already dumbed down game is getting dumbed down even more when in reality you can't ever get high speed because of the speed cap. I'm sure you're happy about this addition as it is clearly catered to the likes of you.

<< Comment #59 @ 03:17 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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filo - Reply to #49

condescending trash

<< Comment #60 @ 03:38 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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roymagic - Reply to #49

well, we can argue about the speedcap which i dont like too btw.

but saying that making the game easier to step in for newcommers while there is no change at mid-high lvl at all is surely not dumbing down the game....

<< Comment #63 @ 07:41 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #60

ok fair enough

but that isn't making it easier for newcommers to step in, that would be matchmaking and different modes to choose from

auto mechanics like that coupled with a speed cap means the game is just not deep enough to retain newcommers, what's the point of spending time to learn different mechanics only to be slightly faster, but still incredibly slow all in all?

<< Comment #64 @ 12:27 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #63

that's an interesting point, this might be making strafing not enough extra fun / benefit for some. I remember I felt so badass when I started strafing.

<< Comment #67 @ 15:19 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #64

yeah, me too

but then came defrag and since I don't know that I actually CAN strafe...

<< Comment #17 @ 08:03 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #10

but but but it will bring millions if not billions of new players to quake just like cg_autohop in ql made the servers explode!

<< Comment #92 @ 04:59 CST, 27 November 2017 >>

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Fejl(Folklore) - Reply to #5

hitbox changes will be in the January update not December.

<< Comment #8 @ 04:34 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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iavoal

IS IT A TRAP?

<< Comment #11 @ 05:29 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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yall need to stop playing this game.

tim willits: we gonna make this game into a arcade noob shooter!
QC Player: yes, daddy.
tim willits: and yall are gonna play it!
QC Player: yes ofc daddy!
tim willits: my geniuous brain says next thing is Clan Arena!
QC Player: ooooh daddy, fistme

<< Comment #43 @ 12:07 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #11

You are wrong. Noone gives a fuck about qc. Look at player base..

<< Comment #73 @ 16:32 CST, 20 November 2017 >>

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erok - Reply to #11

As soon as tournaments stop playerbase will be 0. That is really the only thing keeping the pro's / hardcores playing. Looking at numbers game is completely dead other than them already.

<< Comment #12 @ 05:58 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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filo

good stuff, i wonder how TDM is gona playout with 30sec respawn times on small armors and hp. Also cant wait to lgfist doom with his double jump, when the updated hitboxes comes out.

<< Comment #79 @ 02:10 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #12

I will still be doomslayah king, hihi :P

<< Comment #82 @ 10:42 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

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filo - Reply to #79

until its nerfed :>

<< Comment #15 @ 07:17 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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son1dow

brb launching a petition to kill these clan arena plans

... no but seriously it's a terrible mistake it traps people into non-quake, fuck CA

<< Comment #16 @ 07:27 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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*creep - Reply to #15

I think 2v2 tdm will be pretty big, and clan arena is a good mode to start for newcomers.

<< Comment #20 @ 08:27 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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rehepapp - Reply to #16

do newcomers actually want to move away from there?

<< Comment #29 @ 10:31 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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gashunk - Reply to #20

No we don't. I've been meaning to start duel practice for four years now. Few CA games after work and I'm satisfied.

<< Comment #34 @ 10:41 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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gashunk - Reply to #29

Actually like not having CA in QC BTW. Well, 2 hours logged past 2 months because the game feels like hitting a nail with your flacid dick. I'm in pray mode and still hopefull tho, untill diabotical releases i'm uninstalling this shitty product.

Edited by gashunk at 10:42 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #40 @ 11:33 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #16

it's a bad mode because it has no proper incentive to be aggressive like all halfdecent games do

furthermore it might be fun sometimes sure but people just get comfortable with it and don't want to leave their comfort zone, resulting in them playing it exclusively.

I just expect much more playtime overlap between TDM and CTF for example, than either of these and CA.

<< Comment #42 @ 12:06 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #16

2x2 tdm big? Max 1k ppl playing qc around a globe combined..

<< Comment #48 @ 13:57 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Anonymous (77.180.87.216) - Reply to #42

your english is like shakespeare

<< Comment #52 @ 14:43 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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*creep - Reply to #42

big as in one of, if not the most popular modes. And the playernumbers now can't be compared with those on release, unless of course there will be 1k players on release but I doubt it.

<< Comment #27 @ 10:06 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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pecka_ - Reply to #15

any link to petition?

Edited by pecka_ at 10:07 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #38 @ 11:17 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #27

I wasn't actually making one, we should probably make a poll on ESR if we want to give feedback on it

I'm hoping they do take feedback from comments anyway, though.

<< Comment #39 @ 11:24 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #27

I've contacted admins to see if they'd make a poll

<< Comment #56 @ 18:06 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #27

http://esreality.com/post/2899338/do-you-want...champions/

<< Comment #76 @ 01:54 CST, 21 November 2017 >>

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Tripleight - Reply to #15

Why the fuck people are whining about CA? Instagib is the useless cancer, a complete waste of time.

<< Comment #21 @ 08:34 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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principezwatrem

With these changes Nyx will outshine everyone again <3

<< Comment #25 @ 09:30 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #21

This is what I thought:)

<< Comment #23 @ 09:24 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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CA? LOL, we certainly dont need another crap mod, we already have sacrifice.

<< Comment #24 @ 09:24 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Dismi

Wasting time with christmas shit lol

<< Comment #26 @ 09:45 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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syXzor

A bit annoying that Tim interrupted Adam as he was about to go into details about Slash' speed nerf, and as a result started talking about the weapons instead. Hopefully it won't be the same nerf for Slash as with Anarki - hopefully the movement speed stays the same, and only the plasma trail speed will get nerfed - but that's probably unlikely, since it would then be the exact opposite of Anarki.

Slash mains such as myself, tend to play Slash because we find other champions too slow to navigate around the map with. I totally get it, that people generally find her too hard to hit, but why not just stick with the bigger hitboxes and let the speed be? Instead of slowing them down, they should speed up the others, fix the netcode and make the hitboxes bigger.

Also, I'm at loss as to why Doom's Berserk has autoaim. Autoaim maybe have a place in extremely casual games and handicapped platforms such as consoles, but not in a game such as Quake that brand itself as being a skill-based game.

Edited by syXzor at 09:51 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #33 @ 10:39 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Anonymous (77.180.7.158) - Reply to #26

actually it would be sufficient to fix rockets not being delayed and lg actually registering.. now with lg registering and slower movement of anarki and slash i doubt they will be playable.

<< Comment #28 @ 10:12 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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lyijytäytekynä - Reply to #26

Got to agree with this - the speed wasn't the problem, it was simply the speed AND the hitboxes when paired together that caused an issue - and unfortunately, I think they've taken the wrong approach to tackling it (although it must be said, it's still an improvement from previous versions imo). Will be nice to hit above 30% LG on Anarki again.

<< Comment #31 @ 10:34 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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principezwatrem - Reply to #26

The extreme speed just make the game too skilled (in this moment if you are unable to learn complex Anarki you suck almost by default when fighting one).

And the only hitboxes change wouldn't make such a great difference if they are still so fast.

<< Comment #32 @ 10:38 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu - Reply to #31

How is Anarki movement complex? You go in the direction your crosshair points? Anarki movement is more intuitive than VQ movement.

<< Comment #70 @ 10:11 CST, 20 November 2017 >>

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principezwatrem - Reply to #32

You need to learn strafe jumping first, then air control. I wouldn't say it's 'easy' for newcomers at all.

<< Comment #71 @ 11:45 CST, 20 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu - Reply to #70

Valid point, never thought of that. But since you have to learn them both go for both at the same time.

<< Comment #37 @ 11:09 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #26

The problem with Anarki is that he is too fast... in comparison with the rest of the characters. If Anarki is nerfed, then Slash will have to be nerfed as well. No character will be able to catch her.

Of course there is/was another solution: To increase the speed of all characters, while keeping Anarki and Slash the same.

<< Comment #91 @ 16:07 CST, 25 November 2017 >>

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Pineapple Pizza! - Reply to #26

My gut tells me the punch is auto-aimed / lock-only because tim and friends don't want it to be used as a movement mechanic. You can double jump, then punch mid-air to gain even more height.

<< Comment #30 @ 10:34 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu

The perfect beginner mode would be "forever warmup", just join a server, all weapons all champs to choose from but no scoreboard, no timelimit, no stats other than weapon stats. This would be a good platform for beginners to hone their skills on. For the game to be succesful (large playerbase) id/bethesda need to find a good, fun yet casual team mode that also works on a competitive level AND where champions are relevant and then push it as the ONLY team mode, ditch duel already. As I see it that mode is ctf, don't see anything else that would work? Clan Arena in QC? no thanks...

<< Comment #35 @ 10:43 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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trepunkt - Reply to #30

I think one benefit of CA for beginners is when you die you have to spec still living teammates and watch/learn, you really don't get this out of other game modes

<< Comment #44 @ 12:12 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu - Reply to #35

You learn better by playing, not spectating. If you play the game long enough you gradually get to a point where it can be interesting watching demos or indeed other players play the game but not until you have a basic understanding of how the weapons and movement systems work. CA is not a good mode for beginners, FFA and CTF is, they (for the most part atleast) let players develop without being hazzled by fellow gamers and or team mates. I can't even think of a more beginner unfriendly mode than CA except duel.

<< Comment #45 @ 13:20 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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trepunkt - Reply to #44

I could not disagree more heheh

I believe that spawning with all weapons/armor and having a team to support you makes it the most newb friendly game mode, you can get used to the weapons and fights and not have to worry about knowing where items are on a map or timing anything

also because there is so much spam and camping in ca, even the newest player can get kills that result in the feeling of having 'a great round', when I was new I found that feeling of having a great round could carry you through many rounds of getting destroyed

as far as spectating after you die, if you have a new player who has never played the map and have them play a round, die early and and spectate most of a round, play a round, spectate a round etc I don't see how that wouldn't end up being helpful in many ways (counter strike is this format and incredibly popular)

anyway, interesting to hear other opinions, I believe CA will end up being the most popular game mode with casuals/newbies when released, we shall see

Edited by trepunkt at 13:23 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #47 @ 13:46 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu - Reply to #45

I believe so too and I fear it will be the end of QC. For a MP game to grow you'll need a good team mode that's easy to learn and where beginners/casuals and seasoned players can play together, sadly I don't see CA as that mode.

<< Comment #51 @ 14:10 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Wasted - Reply to #47

CA is a sickness.. why design a game and then throw everything over board because people are to stupid to collect weapons...

but no fear. CA will not be the end of this game. that will be much earlier anyway.

Edited by Wasted at 14:13 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #90 @ 12:14 CST, 25 November 2017 >>

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FTY - Reply to #35

I think it would be better if they just spawn a Quake 3 TDM/CTF game inside QC when you die and you play that instead of spectating anything.

<< Comment #61 @ 06:49 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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!nFerNo - Reply to #30

This is the best idea I've read in a while.

<< Comment #62 @ 07:35 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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BaMoFu - Reply to #61

Yes the forever warmup mode would be sweet :)

<< Comment #36 @ 11:00 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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pezcore

Did they mention CTF? They not putting CA ahead of CTF are they? That would be ridiculous!

<< Comment #68 @ 16:25 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #36

They did, listen in close to the end there, maybe at 57 or something.

<< Comment #77 @ 15:27 CST, 21 November 2017 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #36

On the long term to do list, and expected in "2018." Considering that they gave more specific dates for other things (e.g. "Jan. 2018" or "beginning of 2018") when they say just "2018" I think they mean pretty deep into the year.

<< Comment #41 @ 11:44 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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none of these features even matter until they fix the micro-stutter that happens even on the lowest of resolution and detail, and improve the games sounds to a level where its not always sounds like a mashup of distant explosions.

Yet they will continue to roll out things that are useless instead of fixing whats really needed to be fixed on day 1 and still is not.

Edited by butcher_kgp at 11:56 CST, 18 November 2017

<< Comment #50 @ 14:08 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Wasted - Reply to #41

and after the micro-stutter fix again none of that maters because they are removing the only playable servers anyway.....

what a farce... and then they talk about 'maximizing our server efficienty effort'.. wtf does that mean? can't they handle more then 10 servers?? is that to hard for them...

<< Comment #46 @ 13:32 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Thank god my wife stocked the fridge with all kinds of cheese. you guys behave like old people

<< Comment #53 @ 15:52 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Lam |

Yes, slow down Anarki even more, because his maximum speed is the actual problem!

Having a needle sized hit volume in a game with awful hit detection? Having the shooting speed based on FPS, especially in a game that can't spend a second without a 100 ms frame? Having ground accel so high you can be in two places at once just by strafing left/right (plus the leaning)? Those aren't real problems.

No, the real problem is 600-something ups speed being too fast in a Quake game :D

Remember when we used to hit consistently on people flying 1000 ups in QW/CPMA/QL? Can't have that, so instead let's make everyone crawl around the map.

(Actually I play Nyx and her 720 ups cap is also too slow. I tried Visor but he gets stuck on every staircase or smallest terrain feature, at least Nyx can sometimes walljump-clip to work around those awesome game mechanics. Remember how we used to have airsteps in QL?)

<< Comment #54 @ 16:52 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Infuscomus - Reply to #53

1000 ups in QL ? Is there a single played map where you could get that fast often ? That sounds exagerated to me. No cap limit is good, but I'm not sure people went often over 800 in QL for instance (without rocket jump, because there are no limits for rocket jumps in QC I think).

<< Comment #55 @ 17:05 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Lam | - Reply to #54

Well yeah, 800 was normal speed for most maps, but rocket jumping was also a thing. And people still chased you with rails.

Still, 800 is not 600 and in QC you have trouble hitting anything on an Anarki strafing left-right at 200 ups. My point is, speed is completely irrelevant to the issues people have, and yet they chose this "fix".

<< Comment #57 @ 18:32 CST, 18 November 2017 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #54

no, no cap limit is not "good", it's mandatory

which other games even have that besides cs?

I can't think of any

<< Comment #72 @ 14:45 CST, 20 November 2017 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #53

Valid points about the Anarki elusiveness. So much harder to hit besides Slash in full crouch speed mode...but slash has mayor disadvantages when the crouchslide stops, or in the possible movement patterns.

A combination of nerfes is in order, probably this will take a lot of time and community rages :>

<< Comment #78 @ 15:30 CST, 21 November 2017 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #53

Yeah, there's so many serious issues not related to the speed that it's a bit hilarious when you see the "pros" complaining about Anarki being "too fast."

<< Comment #58 @ 00:04 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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liliq

2late.

<< Comment #65 @ 13:40 CST, 19 November 2017 >>

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Anonymous (87.81.254.138)

Might be too late. Sorry folks.

Armor / HP stacks absolutely need to be BIGGER and more balanced for map control to mean a fucking damn thing.

Duel round based system is horrendous and needs to go.

<< Comment #74 @ 16:52 CST, 20 November 2017 >>

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erok

Had to change my boxers after new champion and christmas decorations!

<< Comment #80 @ 07:01 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

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sonic - Reply to #74

RAGEFART

Edited by sonic at 07:33 CST, 22 November 2017

<< Comment #93 @ 05:16 CST, 28 November 2017 >>

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garz - Reply to #80

my reaction when somebody tells me "quake" champions is a quake game.

<< Comment #94 @ 07:19 CST, 28 November 2017 >>

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sonic - Reply to #93

:((

<< Comment #75 @ 01:45 CST, 21 November 2017 >>

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Good changes. With increased health pool, I might actually watch some tournaments again.

<< Comment #81 @ 07:48 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

By

trippy

snow and Christmas lights.. finally they listened

<< Comment #83 @ 12:59 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

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Jesus motherfucking christ, this is a landmark for sure.
Over my close to 20 years of active internet use I have, never and I mean never come across a more fucked up piece of software and the means by which to apply it.

If since April the bethesda client has completely frozen the whole computer for insane amounts of time to download 16GB's to add 4 new trouser colours and one map tweek then NOW it literally fucks up everything in the house.

As soon as I start the 9GB patch download all, and I mean ALL connections pretty much freeze, landline phone cuts out and TV signal becomes choppy as fuck.

... and this is literally due to a part of the winter themes?

NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WINTER THEMES, put some effort into the actual game. Literally if id manages to give some real in put before the end of the calender year, scratch that, make it during 1st quarter of 2018 I will not say a single thing about their cockups anymore, not a word.

100Mbit up and down connection btw

<< Comment #84 @ 16:05 CST, 22 November 2017 >>

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GogettO - Reply to #83

Get steam version mate :P

<< Comment #85 @ 04:38 CST, 23 November 2017 >>

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principezwatrem - Reply to #84

Ye definitely. Bethesda Launcher is pure shit, I bought it on Steam just to avoid that bullshit

<< Comment #87 @ 17:34 CST, 24 November 2017 >>

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filo - Reply to #85

i fucked it up, i bought ingame, now i have to restart game every 3 matches. Give us switch to steam option!!

Edited by filo at 17:35 CST, 24 November 2017

<< Comment #86 @ 06:26 CST, 23 November 2017 >>

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crea* '

. You cannot disable third person spawn effect. (For now)

Well that sucks.

<< Comment #89 @ 12:08 CST, 25 November 2017 >>

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FTY

Id software needs to hire Totalbiscuit so he can yell at old Quake fans that they're to blame for Quake Champions failing.

That will certainly drive the sales and popularity of a "Quake" Champions.

<< Comment #95 @ 09:57 CST, 28 November 2017 >>

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Anonymous (50.241.51.78)

The stupidity in this comments section is comical.

ArenaFPS is dead. Your little pet ideas won't do shit. Put the crack pipe down nancy boys. You've got 1000 people online to play with in QC. Embrace it.

Or play Reflex. Probably one of the better ideas most of you have ever considered in your small insignificant little lives. If it was considered at all.

Your lord, and savior

-EternalRage

<< Comment #96 @ 21:54 CST, 29 November 2017 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #95

overwatch is arena fps and it is succeeding.

<< Comment #97 @ 00:08 CST, 30 November 2017 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #96

lol. no, it's not.

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