Not bad.

Why does this game look so much better than quake champions? lol. Imagine if it had strafejumping... And you can actually see the other players.

Multiplayer bit was co-developed by Certain Affinity, who worked with Raven on MWR. Can't help but feel like the multiplayer bit of DOOM resembles recent COD games. Map aesthetics are beautiful indeed. Worth having a look for yourself.

its the engine that makes all the difference in the world

Why the hell didn't id not just use the same engine for quake champions?! Don't try to reinvent the wheel god dammit.

Same reason they didn't have Arkane hold off on D2 until id tech6 was ready. Wouldn't be surprised if it costed/costing them more to go back and try to patch these two shitty engines up than just waiting for id tech6 in the first place.

this guy works at id. general programmer.
upgraded doom3 renderer to vulkan in 4-5 months full time.
also not a gfx programmer.

id is solely vulkan now... except QC which is direct-x. Think it's the first dx game at id.

https://youtu.be/0R23npUCCnw

except QC which is direct-x. Think it's the first dx game at id.

QC is not developed by id software, but by Saber. They simply used what Saber had experience working and shipping products with. Id software hasn't developed multiplayer for any of their games since Q3A.

Because mental retardation can't be cured in a day.







Can't be cured, AT ALL.

Explains your behaviour lol

Read again, Mr. Fitting Nick.

yeah, idk why they went with saber.. or why they even had them involved

Nice, looks really streamlined.

Better arena FPS than QC fo sho.

stopped watching when he teabagged someone after the most standard shotgun frag ever

Hey, thanks for watching! You were 2 clips away (literally 20 seconds) from finishing the whole thing. Best of luck dealing with that bipolar disorder. Hopefully one day you will finally get over yourself and manage to complete something you've started. Peace.

never go full lotzy

the guy is way more talented than you. what is your point?

You got angry, because dude doesnt like your video. Not the 1st time that happened either.

never go full lotzy

reacting to someones argument is called communication and communication exists to improve one's perspective/view. there is nothing shameful to show an emotion, unless you haven't grown out of your prepubescent stage. you have a low level of general perception, like the majority here. your point is irrelevant.

it would be common sense to stop doing what you doing if others' dislikes bother you, perhaps that is why we don't see anything new from you lol.

you also jumped the gun claiming the guy disliked the video, when the comment was on a certain scene. get your sh1t together. observe properly before posting a comment.

don't communicate

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Dood, I'm still cringing.

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https://imgur.com/gallery/2XXYJMB

g3t y0ur sh1t t0geth3r.

dude you are mad as fuck. keep going

you clearly haven't grown out of your prepubescent stage if you're afraid to spell shit properly

What's up with the situation when you're already actively using various synonyms for it as well?

Other forums have censorship and when I posted that I've got an error, thinking it was that. That explains the sh1t part. But ye, this is ESR. People get butthurt reading comments addressed to others lmao

Ye, like you did at #29.

misinterpretation of situation and wrong reference there buddy. that was a sick burn you got served there. give couple more tries to replies and you might complete an insult today lol

What the actual fuck are you on about? My reply (#24) was to g0uken (#8), providing an answer to his question while agreeing in his wondering in a sarcastic way why id didn't use id Tech 6 for QC.
Then, after you expressed your liking of DOOM's aesthetics (#3), started to attack me WHO AGREED ON the fact that DOOM is nice.

I don't have to complete any insult, you'll do that to yourself without any help with your misdirected butthurt over your little movie's reception and your subpar communication / reading skillz. I have my policy not beating the crippled any further.

I have my policy not beating the crippled any further.

So you beat the crippled partially then? I'm in tears here lmao

No.

Life has beaten them senseless already.

at least you found something that makes you feel superior in this life

Genetics.

lmao over 5 replies and none of it on point. how many ESR retards do you need to complete an insult?

Guys, dont worry .... id is just kidding. They already work on quake 5 on that engine and will release it at the exact moment when quake champions early access finishs. They were just trolling ;D

;`D

yea i need to go back to do doom also. Haven't even finished singleplayer just played MP all the time... fun stuff.

Kinda didnt feel the awesomnes of the frags tho, maybe for the next frag movie project try to find more skillfull frags, so the reward of an actuall frag has more satisfaction + if the frags are harder to make, you can build up more suspense/story (doesn't mean suspense=slowmo, there are other ways aswell). Cheers tho,, havent seen enough of doom tho ::) hfhf wpwpw

I know what you mean with better frags. The player base is small and the games are monotonous, this was a one time thing. Not continuing to play.

to bad to hear that, you could do nice and great things. fly fly little bird go off into the world and DOMINATE!

Looks ten times better than quake champions. Almost as good as gameplay too, and more polished.

It's 2018 and standard Doom gunplay is about as deep as the latest quake.

it is simpler than quake and as for doom you see a finished piece, where as quake you got access from beginning to help develop the game. you cant really compare the two yet, i mean i bet there were way more resources (2 separate studios working on snapmap and multiplayer respectively) put to doom development and it probably started way back in 2011 right after RAGE release. as for qc now correct me if i'm wrong but i bet the develpment started around 2015 when they decided to switch from ql to a new ip, so what we see in qc today is just 2 and a half years of development so far.. again, i expect it to be nice and well polished with shitload of maps around 2020 realistically.

What you see here is the failure that is id software. Their multiplayer only game is about as good as the multiplayer of their singleplayer oriented game. This is not 2 or 5 or whatever years, it's 20 years of them producing an engine and letting the community turn it into a game. That fooled them into thinking they know jack shit about multiplayer.

Very overlooked aspect. Id has a long history of failing multiplayer games, even when it still was Id and not its emtpy shell.
Doom 3, Enemy Wars, Quake 4 the biggest failure, quake live.

Even quake 3 would be nothing without the community developing launchers, patches and competitive mods for it.

What do you mean even? ESPECIALLY Q3. Even if you don't count two of the greatest(imo) games in the face of cpm and defrag, can you picture Q3 without OSP? QL was all the features that the community made throughout Q3 and Q4 was too fucked up of an engine to be saved by q4max. Q1 to Q2 is indicative that id software's only idea is to dumb shit down. But I guess it can be defended by being SP oriented. But I mean, christ, probably half the features which made all of us stay with Q3 were BUGS.

Stop using that excuse.

Early access doesn't mean what it should since quite some time, and it will never mean that again.

Early access in videogames now means "yeah we're going to relase the damn game already, we're gonna use the players as beta testers and have an excuse ready for everything that sucks".

The game is out. It's out since a year already.

You can play it after you buy it. It gets patches.

By all accounts, it's a relased game. The developers and (some) players are just pretending that the second release will somehow start a chain reaction out of thin air that'll make the game explode in popularity.

It won't happen. The game got its part of publicity exposure the first time it got released.

Variety streamers, by far the most influential publicity, tried it for like a week and quickly dropped it.

They're not gonna play this game again, after the terrible first impression.

The game got its chance, its 15 minutes of exposure that every new game gets with streamers. Now its over.

Are you telling me the game's biggest torunament... was for the unreleased version? Because the tournament moneys have already dried up, we're never gonna see a bigger tournament than last year's.

It's all downhill from there. The players have spoken: they don't like the game. They like PUBG, Fortnite, Hearthstone, Dota, LoL, Cs:GO, rocket league.

Sure the population could grow a little in the future months if they'll add more pop characters/modes, like the Skyrim Guy (lmao).

But it's never gonna reach "popular" level.

Right now, it could double its player base and still be a niche almost unknown game.

And not even skyrim guy and fallout guy could double its playerbase. Maybe with zelda and gordon freeman characters, but bethesda doesn't own those rights.

Its just as bad as QC. It suffers many of the same problems. QC almost is the same game as DoomMP with strafe added and better movement speed.

This is whats rediculous about QC. DoomMP flopped hard, yet they go on to release basically the same game + strafe jumping as a stand alone MP game thinking that wont flop....

Doom on my freinds Xbox felt ok, like with a handicapped controller the pace feels ok. When you take it over to mouse KB it feels like playing QL with the walk button held down, Movment speed is so restrictive. Gun battles there is no point to try and dodge cos you wont make it furher than 1 meter to your side.

To make it more annoying the game is more vertical. Imagine playing QC where everybody plays as the doomguy character. Every single encouter is people double jumping off your head combined with the aspect again that you cant dodge sideways really at all.

It just boils down to ppl shooting each other in the face from 1 meter with no chance anybody will dodge, run, exit the fight or do something crazy you would see in Quake 3.

To add further insult the sigleplayer has a high movement speed, yet multiplayer movment speed is around half of that which is just infuriating. They are literally two seperate executables and also different build versions of the engine.

I could go on with more problems. No team shuffle. No server browser. Basically everything wrong with QC is also wrong here.

edit: I should point out I think you can change movement speed in custom games, but those are custom games. Good luck getting those organised with anything but a couple close freinds.

if... doom 2018 will support mods (doom 2016 didnt) then we could make a proper quake mod. Unfortunaley the chances are very slim for mod support cuz bethesda

it be funny if it would end up with creation club where you pay for mods lol

I vote for Doom Promode!

A dev teased a new upcoming doom, info probably at e3

hmm alot of QC opinion in this thread, you guyz are so sweet and fluffy.

what the fuck kind of bizarro universe is this thread where people are praising the doom halo mp just to shit on QC?

I get it QC has problems but lets not get so ridiculous ppl

indeed, both are terrible multiplayer games, although doom has a decent engine, game looks good, decent singleplayer and its NOT a moba so it is much much better than qc (still shit mp game)

True. QC is ridiculous in itself, no need to beat a dead horse.