Oh are you new? We call it 'tactics' here.

Wouldn't this apply to Quakes 1, 2 or 3? since those three were completely different games and people that were gods from Q1 that switched to Q2 or Q3 then they lose badly because the skillgap is either different or they haven't known something that they need to like rocket speed, lg dmg or rail 100dmg

wmo

inb4 Tayski

haha indeed

You think about me, how cute.

Yeah, whenever I get reminded of QC, I think of you.

Both of horrendous quality; cheap, gimmicky and unoriginal.

it's sad that this community right here, consisting of intelligent people, can't maintain a debate (X likes QC, Y doesn't) without argumentum ad hominem

It's even sadder when they make fun of people who play a certain game but it turns out that they actually play it themselves on the basis of "testing" or "playing with friends" which somehow makes it acceptable by their own judgement, all while flaming and whining about the game on ESR.

Personally if I hated the game so much I'd just move on to something else, but moving on is a hard concept to grasp for most people on here.

It's because people keep feeding low level trolls like Tayski and expect an intellectual outcome. It should be known that it's a waste of time arguing with stupid, unless you're plushunting, it's very lucrative to bait out fuckwits like him for that purpose.

When I think of you I get reminded of QL.

Both looking old and ugly, outdated for its time, without life, repetitive, unoriginal and impotent.

0/10 comeback. Confirming what I was saying. You completely miss the point.

Let's take a look at your stats: https://stats.quake.com/profile/tayski/weapon/
LOL 29% LG? 38 rail!? Jeeeezzzz solid m8. And that are your stats griding noobs in pub, rofl.

Looks like there's a correlation between you and missing stuff, wow.. you should've played more QL CA, I guess you tried and failed miserably and got bitter. So now you got your safe-zone in QC where hitting that amount of lg and rail is enough to finish a big robot or oversized playermodel after using your skillbased ability.

Here's the noobsanonymous discord for you: https://discordapp.com/invite/3daSdDy

Maybe someone can teach you how to stop missing. I mean you care enough about the game that you JamJam your F5 key 24/7 and crusade like there's no tomorrow here, defending QC and hoping to get some attention in the process, because daddy didn't gave you any, just like your classmates who always picked you last @ soccer.

Surely your mom has an extra nickle or two left for her basement dwelling son that's so passionated (but horribly avarage unfortunately) at QC that she would'nt mind sparing a bit of her paycheck to finally see you become relevant in life at something.

GL @ breaking 1800 elo, lol. I'm rooting for you.

Your attempts are so desperate. You're literally grasping for straws to the point of scrutinising my QC profile to find something hahaha. Worse part is you can't even read properly, I've already broke 1800 elo.

On top of that I actually don't give a fuck what my stats are like on a quake profile mate hence why I'm usually not sober when I play, unlike you try harding on QL CA since the beginning of time in the hope of getting a good elo score. That's how sad you are :)

You'll also notice that the reason you found my profile easily is because I make it easy, by being consistent at using the same nickname everywhere, unlike you. I've got nothing to hide and nothing I'm ashamed of.

Addressing some retarded flame posts and non-sense thrown at QC for the sake of it doesn't mean that I'm defending QC, but in your simple mind there's only black and white, so it's either you hate QC or you love it.

I bet you know what it's like to crusade and try to get attention. After all you're the whore trying to get free [+]'s with lame attempts at being funny or saying stuff you think most people will probably agree with. That alone says enough about your bland personality.

Not sure what drove you to that tangent about mummy, daddy and bad experiences at school, are you trying to communicate your own experience? Does it make you feel better to convince yourself that others went through the same shit?

I'm older than you and lived in 4 different countries, currently working at a high paid job where stats do matter unlike my QC profile stats that I literally give 0 fuck about. But I can imagine that having a career and other things going on other than video games can be difficult concept to grasp for someone who sits through marathons of old movies and reinstalls old games for nostalgia rofl. And I didn't even make those up, that's the best part. See difference between you and me again, is that you have to resort to making stuff up about mummy and daddy while I can just recall some of the last 10 comments you've made and I can already show how much of a pathetic nerd you are.

You're rooting for me to break 1800 elo, and I'm rooting for you to get a job.

Your attempts are so desperate. You're literally grasping for straws to the point of scrutinising my QC profile to find something hahaha. Worse part is you can't even read properly, I've already broke 1800 elo.

The bullshit you post on this forum is retarded and you have zero ability to discuss or debate. Hence I took some effort to see who I'm dealing with. Alas - a scrub who can't even play the game properly. The fact that you're horrid at the game makes you less credible than you already were. Just needed to rub that in a lil' bit for your pesky mind to understand.

You'll also notice that the reason you found my profile easily is because I make it easy, by being consistent at using the same nickname everywhere, unlike you. I've got nothing to hide and nothing I'm ashamed of.

https://stats.quake.com/profile/a l b

On top of that I actually don't give a fuck what my stats are like on a quake profile mate hence why I'm usually not sober when I play, unlike you try harding on QL CA since the beginning of time in the hope of getting a good elo score. That's how sad you are :)

You're not very sober now, are you? I don't care about ELO, that's why I played 1v1 and 2v2 exclusively when it comes to CA. In any case, I deleted my QLstats profile a while ago whilst being in the top 10. How much does that make me care.

Addressing some retarded flame posts and non-sense thrown at QC for the sake of it doesn't mean that I'm defending QC.

Nice way to contradict yourself :')

I bet you know what it's like to crusade and try to get attention. After all you're the whore trying to get free [+]'s with lame attempts at being funny or saying stuff you think most people will probably agree with. That alone says enough about your bland personality.

I am funny. You on the other hand aren't. The fact that people agree with me with +'s is because they either like my humour or they agree with certain truths in my posts. In any case, I post what I think and believe in. I guess you do the same and statistically you're doing worse than I am. Stats never lie, that's why I looked you up in the first case.

Not sure what drove you to that tangent about mummy, daddy and bad experiences at school, are you trying to communicate your own experience? Does it make you feel better to convince yourself that others went through the same shit?

No, but I see a reoccuring trend in people that behave like immature pricks like you that have beforementioned issues and experiences. So I called you out on it.

I'm older than you and lived in 4 different countries, currently working at a high paid job where stats do matter unlike my QC profile stats that I literally give 0 fuck about. But I can imagine that having a career and other things going on other than video games can be difficult concept to grasp for someone who sits through marathons of old movies and reinstalls old games for nostalgia rofl. And I didn't even make those up, that's the best part. See difference between you and me again, is that you have to resort to making stuff up about mummy and daddy while I can just recall some of the last 10 comments you've made and I can already show how much of a pathetic nerd you are.

Older than me, but you behave like you've never developed over a pubescent age. You claim working at a high paid job, yet your avarage posts per day surpass even the most active users on this forum. How does it feel wasting so much time sitting in your penthouse high-paid-office all greasy and sweaty parading and trolling everyone on this forum like a <18 y/o kid? Let's be real here, you're probably still in your pyjama's, unshowered and your index finger sticking on your F5 key. I don't know if you work for an employer but it must be nice for him to know that you're prioritizing trolling 'nerds and tryhards' over actually getting work done.

You're rooting for me to break 1800 elo, and I'm rooting for you to get a job.

Get good at the game you care so much about you spend hours on this forum parading and defending and looking like an absolute idiot doing so. If you spend even half the hours of your ESR time on QC you'd become semi-decent. GL

" In any case, I deleted my QLstats profile a while ago whilst being in the top 10 "

How convenient lol.

" No, but I see a reoccuring trend in people that behave like immature pricks like you "

Dude, just take a serious look at you. You're stuck in the past watching marathons of old movies and re-installing old games. Then you feel the power inside you to insult me, you're nothing. You're going through people's game profiles to try and pick on some stats you think you can try and embarrass them with, that shows how mature and seriously you take the games and it makes you even more a prick than me tbh.

' You claim working at a high paid job, yet your avarage posts per day surpass even the most active users on this forum. "

As you bring up number of posts per day, did you actually look at the average posts per day? You have posted more in just 5 years than I have in 12 years. Hahaha

" I don't know if you work for an employer but it must be nice for him to know that you're prioritizing trolling 'nerds and tryhards' over actually getting work done. "

Got my own targets so it doesn't matter how I use my time as long as I get shit done. And no by "getting shit done" I don't mean downloading old movies or playing QL CA 1v1 to try and improve my LG accuracy, I mean actual important shit done. Maybe if you get a job one day you'll see what it's like.

" Get good at the game you care so much about you spend hours on this forum parading and defending and looking like an absolute idiot doing so. "

Posting a couple of posts here and there on ESR for fun doesn't take me much time, and as explained about 20 times I only address some non sense about QC, not saying I love the game but I'm glad your limited mind sees it that way.

Lmao, he only has 1 duel match played ever. That explains SO much

1 match that I won.

That just explains that QC Duel is not enjoyable to me.

And you understood that after only one game? That's exactly what you would attack people for, you gigantic hypocrite

Anyway of course you don't like duel in general, too complex for you

There's a big difference which clearly you're not able to see.

I'm not saying Duel is shit and those who play it are idiots, I just focus on what I prefer instead. That's what I've been reproaching to those who just flame QC, just move on if you don't like it.

Duel is simpler than the other game types actually, you only have 1 opponent to focus on, no team play to worry about, no power-up and so on.

Your insults are useless by the way, you're not achieving fuck all. You just sound like someone who needs to let his anger out on the internet as he can't do that IRL.

Duel is simpler than the other game types actually, you only have 1 opponent to focus on, no team play to worry about, no power-up and so on.

hahaha

holy shit I knew you were clueless but didnt actually expect it was THAT bad

Nice argument, you've convinced me of the opposite now.

How about :

- duel requires you to time MH and RA (and YA's in Q3/QL) perfectly which isn't as crucial at all in other modes...and even if it was you would have 3 teammates to help you do that anyway.
So that's 2 to 4 items on your own as opposed to 1 powerup in TDM really.
Not to mention that in Q3/QL the armours and MH weren't spawning every 30 seconds (another thing QC dumbed down) while the PU has always been 2 minutes which is much easier to time than 25/35 seconds.

- you have way more pressure in duel since a single mistake could cost you the game while other modes aren't as punishing...again because you have 3 other players to back you up but also because there is not as much snowballing effect and coming back from it is easier

- since you can't make any mistake you need to position yourself (i.e. try to be on higher grounds) and move perfectly, again something that isn't as punishing when not done perfectly in another mode (except when you're a flag runner in CTF when it comes down to movement)

- in TDM your team basically is trying to control a zone and you pretty much know at all time which other zone the other team is in, while in duel you constantly have to guess where your opponent is and where he is gonna go next...which implies that on top of that there are mindgames and leveling going on when you try to do stuff that your opponent isn't going to guess and vice versa

- if you know you're up against a player with a sick rail (Killsen for example), you want to try to deny him the railgun for as long as you can. So that's another thing you need to try to control on top of the main items that you need to time and try to contest every 25-35 seconds

- in duel it happens often that you're completely out of control: opponent has control of RA and MH because they are sufficiently delayed and he's stacked on HP/Armour compared to you so you cannot contest those items immediately. Therefore you need to find a way to build up a stack yourself by running the minor items (YA/GA) and find an angle to regain control
Again something that is much easier to do in TDM since simply snatching the quad might be enough for you to regain control of the most important zone...and still you're not in an as bad of a spot in TDM as opposed to duel when you don't have control since you'll usually be controlling at least the other major item.

And I've never been a duel player myself so I'm probably forgetting stuff, but I will never have the audacity to claim that it's the easiest mode.
It's very clear that it's the hardest mode out there, that's where you'll find the best players in the world and that's why it's always been the most competitive mode.
This is widely accepted by anyone who knows the game a bit and is honest about it

Bullshit. Duel IS the easiest game mode, with the fewest variables. That is precisely the reason it's, relatively speaking, the hardest to win at, i.e. competition. It's far easier to train, learn and master duel than say tdm or ctf. In exactly the same way that tic tac toe is much easier to learn and master than chess. The ceiling being low enough to make the scores more even does not make it the game harder in the absolute sense of the word, only relatively. It's much more possible to get a win in chess than tic tac toe, this does not mean chess is an easier game, it means the ceiling is so high it's unattainable.

No idea what makes you believe that TDM is on a high level tactically wise...that's just a myth
As long as you've got 4 players with a good sense of the game and a good aim you're 95% there (obviously some coordination is required but it aint rocket science really)

CTF requires more tactics and coordination but is less demanding aim wise
Overall the amount of variables per person isn't that insane, especially when everyone has a fixed role and only has to focus on certain items (attack will try to sync regen with haste/quad, defense will time base RA/MH and inform attack when necessary)

Anyway my point is that I could play as many duels as I want vs cypher, I would never win 1, while if you put me in a TDM game with 3 pros vs 4 other pros I would eventually win a game at some point.
Or put another way so I dont sound like I would just get carried and be asked to just not feed : I would reach or be close enough to the same "pro" level as them in TDM much faster than I would reach cypher's in duel (maybe I picked too extreme example player but you get the point)

Just like I would never win a game vs a chess master but would much more easily win one vs a tic tac toe master in the long run

I didn't say tdm has a lot of tactics. But I just don't mistake that to mean that duel has more. You didn't get my point, which is that the duel scene has pretty much achieved the ceiling(like you can do in tic tac toe in about 3 games). For tdm to be in that state where the skill is equalized enough for tactics to become important you would need tdm to have been played by 4x the players duel has had for even more gametime(because a tdm game is longer). And that's just not the case. Duel is harder in practice, because it has the active scene, but tdm is more complex in theory(i.e. the absolute sense). It's the exact same reason vq3/ql has been harder to compete in than CPM, even if it's more dumbed down.

You seem to be mixing up 2 words which have different meanings;"simple" vs. "easy".

I said Duel is simpler than TDM, which it is. I didn't say it was "easier".

Please next time pay attention to the words in use before calling people "clueless".

Duel is simpler because as explained there are less variables and elements at play; only 1 opponent, no Power-up, no teamplay to focus on such as attacking areas with coordination, dropping or leaving weapons for team mates, thinking twice before taking a HP bubble or item, and so on.

- Timing items is still there in TDM and even though you might have team mates to supposedly help you, you still have to time MH and RA and when facing decent TDM teams they even time the weapons and other items so the timing goes in even more detail (not in QC though as weapons respawn quicker).

- If you think TDM is only about timing 1 powerup you're obviously the one that's "clueless".

- The 25/35 second argument is irrelevant here as both Duel and TDM have the same times on previous quakes, and have the same 30/30 now on QC.

- A mistake with a PU in TDM can easily cost you the game, so sure mistakes in Duel are costly but it's not like mistakes in TDM aren't costly, you can easily give away a few frags just by messing up the power-up or leaving a weapon, etc. which makes a difference in a close game. I mean just fucking up the last PU of the game in a close game can cost you the game.

- I could even mention the fact that you can hurt or kill team mates if you spamm recklessly (not in QC granted), another mistake that be punished that you won't see in Duel.

- While mistakes can be costly in Duel, you can also be rewarded if you play great as it's all on you, while in TDM even if you play your best if your teamplay isn't on point you might lose anyway.

- Denying the railgun from players with great accuracy is also a thing in TDM.

- In TDM also you can be completely out of control if they control both MH and RA, and so you have to also resort to minor items to somehow get a stack.

So again, nothing convinces me here that duel is more complicated. It's simpler. I'm not saying it's easy though so don't misinterpret my words. Simple but not easy.

simple

adjective
adjective: simple; comparative adjective: simpler; superlative adjective: simplest

1.
easily understood or done; presenting no difficulty.

easy

adjective
adjective: easy; comparative adjective: easier; superlative adjective: easiest

1.
achieved without great effort; presenting few difficulties.

So ye it's my fault if you somehow imagine a semantic explanation to pretend you are right...such a typical frog I swear

I won't even bother responding to the rest at this point so you can convince yourself that you've won the argument too

Simple

adjective

plain, basic, or uncomplicated in form, nature, or design.
"a simple white blouse"

I didn't imagine any of it, it's on the same page you've just looked at for the definition you've copy pasted. Of course you decided to ignore the definition that didn't suit your argument.

Do you really not know that simple is the opposite of complex?

You should also google "simple but not easy", you might learn a thing or two.

But good one on addressing the actual points about TDM as opposed to Duel.

Keep vomiting your verbal diarrhea, but your qc profile put the last stone on the tomb of your credibility. You have zero, none. You're a complete noob, and that's why you're so obsessed with this game: it's tailor made for you!

Talking about verbal diarrhea you left us a good one here.

Why am I a noob and why am I obsessed with this game?

You go to extremes like an agitated nerd. Go get some fresh air.

It hurts, doesn't it? Trying to pretend to be a big boss only for someone to post the proofs of how much of a clueless noob you really are ;-)

You're so obsessed with me that you can't let go, get off my dick please.

Also, a clueless noob because I have 29% LG? Get the fuck out of here.

Show us your profile then Mr Pro.

I never even mentioned your lg percentage, and the fact you think it's even relevant in the duel contest is yet another proof of how basilar and poor is your understanding of the game.

Also, if there's one that needs to get off my dick, that's you, you're stalking me in other threads and replying to comments that you aren't involved in, like here: http://www.esreality.com/post/2923999/re-i-m-...pid2924010

Get off my dick, you creepy stalking weirdo, mine and the ones of all the users you're harassing right now

"if there's one that needs to get off my dick, that's you, you're stalking me in other threads and replying to comments that you aren't involved in"

Hahaha

What's this then:

http://esreality.com/post/2924060/n-a/#pid2923609

http://esreality.com/post/2924003/re-analysis...pid2923792

http://esreality.com/post/2923680/re-is-now-f...pid2923434

http://esreality.com/post/2922954/longest-yar...pid2923558

Don't turn this on me because I've done it once to you, you're happily doing that to me constantly. You just can't help yourself, you're that obsessed.

Also what's my QC profile got to do with anything then? What part of that profile are you even talking about if not the LG accuracy mentioned by the other nerd?

"your qc profile put the last stone on the tomb of your credibility"

Feel free to elaborate.

Also feel free to share your own amazing QC profile.

Those were actrive threads at the time i posted, and all my posts are adding to the discussion.

Unlike you, who actively stalk not just me, but pretty much anyone who destroyed you in an argument, and post random crap just to attack the user.

And it's amazing you still can't understand what else might someone see in a profile other than lg accuracy.

Like, every time you open your mouth you show once more how much of a helpless noob you are in quake.

Like, you don't even sound real, you sound like a caricature of a brainless aim only kid.

Yeah, what else is in that bethesda profile outside of lg accuracy? Its not like there's anything else that matters at all

didn't read

Which means that hurt again

You're a fucking paid troll

Thanks for the feedback, I'll put with the rest of the valuable feedback; in the trash can.

QC is actually next level.

A 3rd element to time (abilities)
4 movements/physics
more ways to attack & defend
Harder to attack/defend because of abilities.
Harder to dodge with certain champs.

There's actually more there to figure out than other quakes.

>3d element
Armor + Mega + Ability = 3, compare to YA+YA+RA+MH whose spawn time is not 30s, lol
>4 movements/physics
dumbed down ql physics + pql (which is remotely resembling CPM, coz it's uber dumbed down compared to it), super dumbled down UT dodges on Clutch, alongside speed cap, LOL
>more ways to attack & defend
more ways to camp and to make a random frag
>Harder to attack/defend because of abilities.
harder to attack/defend because of the random. *Fixed*
>Harder to dodge with certain champs.
ok

summarize the above with broken netcode, input, balance and fps

Armor+Mega+ ability+ small armors+ hour glasses.
Champ abilities have different times. hour glasses reduce the time.
Harder to read the enemies ability timing than other items since it can be offset with hour glasses.

abilities aren't random. They need to be used and they do specific things.
Random would imply the player has no control over when or what they do.

I don't see a problem with physics. I can't recall anyone really ever exceeding 650 ups in a duel other than Walter.
Clutch is actually a better UT movement.

balance is a bit off
Game is broken performance wise.
Development is very slow.


Gameplay is pretty good though.

Would make more sense if lmaobilities had no cooldown, charging only by picking up hourglasses.

that would be cool. or once every minute from use.
no hour glasses

We need an excessive-type mod for QC where the abilities are usable all the time!

Sync would never Finnish it

https://clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryInspiringOpossumResidentSleeper

tribolt sucks.
it was better before, but still shit.

Thanks for posting, the vid sums up so many things that were in my, and im sure, every quaker's sub-consciousness

ESR users cant adapt.

it is what it is.

How's the QC scene in Ecuador?

who the hell is tayski

Sleeper life crisis troll #2

me