ESR - Dreamhack Winter 2018: Quake Champions invitational

<< Comment #1 @ 09:29 CST, 18 November 2018 >>

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Jamerio :

Pretty good pay out. Will be interesting to see how the changes affect the pros.

<< Comment #2 @ 10:35 CST, 18 November 2018 >>

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iavoal

Thank you for covering DH here, linkyyy.

Definetely gonna watch. Really like the last patch, weakening the abilities, balancing the champs and making RL dodgeble at last. Bye-bye, boring BJ, we aint gonna miss you. And all these sphere-telefrags right from the spawn - its still possible, but now its way harder. Now the game feels somehow less random and the item-oriented play will reward you more. And the perfomance improved, however, i dont know how much exactly (about +10-15 fps i guess).

Even Evil returned to the competitive play, and thats a fucking good sign. Though, he still plays it like ql - almost not using abilities).

If all the contenders get into their best shape, this is going to be as good or almost as good as it was in the golden quake days. If only they invited James to cast, jizz.

BUT PLEASE, PLEASE make casters (whoever they gonna be) shut up and let us listen the actual comms of the players while watching 2v2. This is the most interesting thing in qc so far - processing the game with the minds of its best players. You could even show it with the 10 sec delay to BEEP all the curses if you want to, though i doubt anybody younger than 20 y.o. gonna watch this :D

Edited by iavoal at 10:41 CST, 18 November 2018

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<< Comment #4 @ 23:02 CST, 19 November 2018 >>

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Vig1lante - Reply to #2

But I want my DDK, NVC and Makaveli together casting :D

<< Comment #8 @ 05:06 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #4

you could get it. but most of the game should be streamed by the players itself. the casters could briefly explain the meta, the rivalries, whos the favorite and all that.

<< Comment #9 @ 06:10 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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nvc - Reply to #8

I would've loved to commentate, or provide a second stream like the good old leveluptv days, but I'll be watching like the rest of us! :D

I believe I do a pretty good job with pacing these days though, I also prefer to commentate without x-ray as I feel it takes you out of the game when considering player decisions. I'd like to see the observers and commentators toggling it in that respect, though I know many viewers prefer it permanently on.

The beauty of 2v2 is that you can have picture in picture with the player comms too, so I'd like to see them implement that at DHW for powerup setups and runs.

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<< Comment #12 @ 08:41 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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SaturdayEveningPost - Reply to #9

Agreed also I very much like doing it without x-rays

<< Comment #15 @ 14:35 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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Anonymous (82.122.68.25) - Reply to #12

Me same.

Sometimes a player find a rail angle through a tiny gap and has only like 0.5second to shoot the rail and makes it. It's super impressive, but because of X-ray, we can see the enemy player's direction and the shot looks nothing special because of that.

X-Ray should only be activated when match is boring and nothing is happening, both players are not wanting to fight each other. But in all other cases I prefer to be surprised when the enemy player appears.

<< Comment #18 @ 02:03 CST, 21 November 2018 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #9

x ray totally takes the charm away.. its fun watching a pov and wondering just as the player does where the opponent will come from, or get surprised by an ambush.. gay x ray, i guess it will be one of those retarded things that just go on being retarded like follow killer in ctf.. god, how many tourneys i watched like that. retarded shit

<< Comment #19 @ 05:47 CST, 24 November 2018 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #9

would love to hear you either, m8

we miss lvlup, its community oriented style of casting. funny and witty but without pushing it too hard, relaxed.

<< Comment #26 @ 00:16 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #9

xray completely takes out the element of tension out of casting. There is neither any buildup nor tension.

<< Comment #14 @ 11:27 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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Nofri - Reply to #2

If only it was mechanical skills-oriented instead of item-oriented play

<< Comment #27 @ 06:15 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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garz - Reply to #14

Qc had that for a while. Maybe you missed that time. Now they are switching back to items because without its just plain boring. In fact items facilitate aggressive play. But i bet you will not grasp this and stay with your retarded opinion.

<< Comment #69 @ 17:54 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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hughJ - Reply to #2

BUT PLEASE, PLEASE make casters (whoever they gonna be) shut up and let us listen the actual comms of the players while watching 2v2.

Sorry, but it's not a proper esports broadcast if it doesn't have commentary that consists of "Oh my god" with every kill, and stupid banter.

More seriously though, it's fucking weird how the people in charge chose to put emphasis on 2v2 as a competitive showcase when the most talked about aspect of it was Rapha/Liquid's communication, and the prospective success of competing teams is riding entirely on their ability to replicate Liquid's coordination.

It's laughable that another 2v2 tourney is going to come and go, and the best measure of how well team coordination has progressed is not by the tournament, but by the practice scrims where you can actually hear what is going on.

<< Comment #3 @ 11:24 CST, 18 November 2018 >>

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nvc

glhf

<< Comment #5 @ 01:30 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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sleepii

*oils up*

<< Comment #6 @ 01:31 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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sleepii

Ps: CAN WE GET 2 FUCKING STREAMS SO WE DONT MISS GAMES?

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<< Comment #7 @ 03:45 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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gbmaster '

Jönköping

<< Comment #10 @ 06:10 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #7

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/common...B6ping.ogg

Edited by Linkyyy at 06:12 CST, 20 November 2018

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<< Comment #11 @ 07:54 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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nex1 :

Incoming streak of sob threads from pros begging for funding.....

<< Comment #13 @ 10:51 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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ggnore

If he's serious about the duel, Rapha will win duel and tdm together

<< Comment #16 @ 15:32 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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Gobotz - Reply to #13

he said on stream he's mostly concentrating on 2v2 but prepping for duel.
Has a partner to think about.

<< Comment #17 @ 19:39 CST, 20 November 2018 >>

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ScanX - Reply to #13

they will be unstoppable at 2vs2 again

I can't imagine a team having comms as good as them, it's a thing of beauty

<< Comment #20 @ 06:19 CST, 24 November 2018 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #13

i wouldn't bet my life savings on that.

<< Comment #191 @ 16:29 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #20

I guess I was right after all ^^

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iavoal - Reply to #191

he was ^^

<< Comment #21 @ 10:19 CST, 26 November 2018 >>

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BaMoFu

Someone major this?

<< Comment #23 @ 11:58 CST, 26 November 2018 >>

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ProT : - Reply to #21

Not enough grudge for that.

<< Comment #25 @ 00:12 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #21

done.

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<< Comment #30 @ 09:45 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #25

Can you put it in the scheduled listing?

<< Comment #34 @ 17:24 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #30

done.

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<< Comment #37 @ 02:50 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #34

I think you scheduled the wrong date. It starts already the 30/11 :)

<< Comment #28 @ 09:43 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #21

Wrote a message on the discord channel but no one cared

Edited by Linkyyy at 09:50 CST, 27 November 2018

<< Comment #29 @ 09:44 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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sonic - Reply to #28

that's how i feel every time i use discord

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<< Comment #22 @ 10:26 CST, 26 November 2018 >>

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megaman3

oh it's this weekend

<< Comment #24 @ 14:13 CST, 26 November 2018 >>

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bolus major - Reply to #22

oh ok

<< Comment #31 @ 10:29 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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Ffleri

nice, this will deliver some great games for sure

<< Comment #33 @ 17:16 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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baddog

<< Comment #32 @ 16:59 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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diegowar :

2v2 Double Elim Bracket : https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/201404...268041216/
Duel Double Elim Bracket : https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/201402...497885184/

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<< Comment #35 @ 18:22 CST, 27 November 2018 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #32

Thanks

<< Comment #36 @ 01:18 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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art-hoshi - Reply to #32

Is there a list of the players for 2v2? Only found the team list here: https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/201404...ticipants/

<< Comment #38 @ 03:21 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #36

If you click on the team names, and click "Information" you can see the players associated :)

<< Comment #42 @ 10:54 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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art-hoshi - Reply to #38

ah thanks, that was one click too much for me ;-)

<< Comment #39 @ 04:01 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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iavoal

in before evil

<< Comment #41 @ 10:18 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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gbmaster ' - Reply to #39

can't see evil in the playerlist :(

<< Comment #45 @ 16:17 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #41

i've heard that he's coming
though, he wont be able to qualify into the 2nd stage, ima fraid.

<< Comment #40 @ 09:54 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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baddog

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<< Comment #44 @ 15:29 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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h4lli

will be fun to watch.. good list of attendees and played on an enjoyable patch.

only thing missing is 2GD in casters lineup ;)

<< Comment #43 @ 11:32 CST, 28 November 2018 >>

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baddog

<< Comment #46 @ 02:44 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Tayski

tox and cooller in the same team :o

<< Comment #47 @ 06:40 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #46

a robot with a brain?

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<< Comment #48 @ 06:51 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Carpio - Reply to #47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPuBV4snbcA&t=702

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<< Comment #73 @ 03:27 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #48

lol

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<< Comment #49 @ 07:22 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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baddog

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ProT : - Reply to #49

<< Comment #51 @ 08:10 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #50

Yes but

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Linkyyy - Reply to #49

<< Comment #53 @ 09:18 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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gbmaster ' - Reply to #49

critical alert from microsoft

<< Comment #54 @ 12:52 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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n1ghty

just looking forward to every tox & cooller game. \o/

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<< Comment #58 @ 14:54 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #54

their scrims against liquid were fantastic

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<< Comment #70 @ 00:46 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #58

Don't worry, casters will ruin it

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<< Comment #55 @ 13:26 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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YouTroll

Some people make it sound as Toxjq and Cooller never played TDM together. While in fact they did, q3 osp: t.Nobody.cox, t.Nobody.tox. I'm sure if one looks hard enough you can still find demos of it

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<< Comment #56 @ 13:38 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #55

Because they've played together in the past doesn't make it any less awesome that they're playing together now on QC for DH.

<< Comment #57 @ 13:43 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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YouTroll - Reply to #56

I didn't say it makes any less awesome did I?

<< Comment #60 @ 16:08 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #57

We never said they never played TDM together did we?

<< Comment #61 @ 16:27 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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YouTroll - Reply to #60

Answering a question with a question are we?

<< Comment #62 @ 16:34 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #61

"Some people make it sound as Toxjq and Cooller never played TDM together."

I'd like to understand what that's based on.

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YouTroll - Reply to #62

Based on? Really?

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Tayski - Reply to #63

Now you realize your initial statement was based on nothing. Don't be sad because people are excited to watch them play together.

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YouTroll - Reply to #64

Ai you find new ways to raise that stupidity level of yours to new highest every single day...

Just stop before you embarrass yourself even more.

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Tayski - Reply to #65

Don't try to find a way out by getting personal. You know you fucked up.

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YouTroll - Reply to #66

Resorting to swearing now? How exactly did I make it personal?

Some advice for you. Pick your fights better in the future yes.. Some people on ESReality is out of your league

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Tayski - Reply to #67

"Some people make it sound as Toxjq and Cooller never played TDM together. "

Still needs explaining.

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SaturdayEveningPost - Reply to #60

yes people have typed that, that is why he typed that some have...

<< Comment #59 @ 15:57 CST, 29 November 2018 >>

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SwarmDMX

2EZ4ins

<< Comment #71 @ 02:00 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy

Added a link to a time schedule at +F. They doesn't state any duel games on day 1, even though it says that on the DHW page.. so im not sure about what the schedule is.

<< Comment #72 @ 02:43 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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abso

Can't they even get proper casters for this game or why is everyone except Makaveli a play by play only guy?

<< Comment #74 @ 05:41 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Lw)f

Lets cheer up for some good QUacK!!!

Edited by Lw)f at 05:42 CST, 30 November 2018

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<< Comment #75 @ 07:21 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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iavoal

no players incomms in 2v2 AT ALL.

play by play and hours of bullshitting at the desk, while the actual games are going.

mkay.

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<< Comment #76 @ 07:41 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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muxen - Reply to #75

ye, i watched the vod, 3h for only 2 games, lol...

Edited by muxen at 07:42 CST, 30 November 2018

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<< Comment #77 @ 07:57 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Lam |

Base is baller. He shouldn't make fun of high production value though!

Edited by Lam at 07:57 CST, 30 November 2018

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<< Comment #78 @ 08:03 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #77

rofl :D

clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/UglyHardTofuTriHard

Edited by Linkyyy at 08:05 CST, 30 November 2018

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<< Comment #90 @ 14:13 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #77

https://youtu.be/2biEBOfO7k4

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<< Comment #100 @ 01:22 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Gobotz - Reply to #90

i have a poster of the bush wackers i got out of a box of honey combs cereal in the late 80's

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<< Comment #192 @ 16:33 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Ur1ch - Reply to #77

You cant make fun of production value with McGregor walk

<< Comment #79 @ 09:34 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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ProT :

Ins is BIG, guys! BIG like K1llsen!

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<< Comment #80 @ 10:46 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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mattered_ '

when did ketchup become a better analytical caster than zoot? I mean, hes still got this annoying fake american sports-caster emotionality, but hes actually analysing better than zoot who never even attempts to talk about more than playbyplay

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<< Comment #84 @ 12:11 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Lam | - Reply to #80

What I always liked about Ketchup is how well prepared he is.

I have no idea where he came from and I always thought he knows nothing about Quake (esp. when him and Mustard were using what was probably Overwatch? terminology when casting Quake), but he will recite you all teams a player was in and all their results from the last 10 years.

I'm surprised how happy I am when he's on a stream to remind me of all the stuff I forgot about (or when it comes to QC tournaments before 2v2, didn't care for ;))

Respect, Ketchup.

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<< Comment #87 @ 12:56 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #84

Ketchup & Mustard came from playing and commenting Mortal Kombat X which requires a ton of knowledge in characters and framedata to commentate well

competitively, one of them made into top 8 at Evo 2015 (which had 1100 players attending for MK alone). that's no small feat.

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xemorx - Reply to #80

Was zoot ever a good caster? No offence, but he just looks very funny all the time and we love him for him being him.

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<< Comment #117 @ 14:41 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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g0uken - Reply to #91

Not really imo. Never liked him.

<< Comment #81 @ 10:54 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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adem

bunny cooller

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<< Comment #86 @ 12:52 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Devianthe - Reply to #81

he looks like he's had three divorces

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<< Comment #122 @ 01:42 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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sonic - Reply to #86

that's what playing Quake Champions every day does to you

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<< Comment #92 @ 14:42 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #81

those two antenna looking ears up there look also very fitting :D

<< Comment #82 @ 10:58 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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rockz '

makaveli and his fugly shirt....uuuuurgs

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<< Comment #93 @ 14:46 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #82

If a guys shirt is the biggest problem you have, the show must be pretty good.

Edited by Linkyyy at 15:37 CST, 30 November 2018

<< Comment #83 @ 11:33 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy

Okay so apparently some duel games have already been played, while the 2v2 games were streamed.. Like Vo0 vs HELL, cypher vs nitrino, base vs xron :< Hope we dont miss more matches

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erok - Reply to #83

You would rather watch duel over 2v2?

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Linkyyy - Reply to #103

No i prefer 2v2 but some of those duel games would still be an interesting watch imo

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muxen

oh well, this will be the first time we will see cypher vs rapha on quake champions, let's see..

<< Comment #88 @ 13:25 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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fragmaster_

who is psygib and why did he almost beat tox.

<< Comment #89 @ 13:27 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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muxen - Reply to #88

because quake champions.

<< Comment #94 @ 16:57 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Linkyyy

2v2 schedule for tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Quake/status/1068633050664321024

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<< Comment #95 @ 17:33 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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Lup1n

Best games worth watching? Wasnt able to catch them all

Edited by Lup1n at 17:33 CST, 30 November 2018

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adem - Reply to #95

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<< Comment #98 @ 21:09 CST, 30 November 2018 >>

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SaturdayEveningPost - Reply to #96

fuck yeah adam i agree

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #96

agreed

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ilikeyoudead - Reply to #99

No.

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M1zzu - Reply to #96

DDK @ 1:15:05: "Perhaps the Quake Live finals to end all Quake Live finals"

true ;_;

Edited by M1zzu at 06:13 CST, 2 December 2018

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Linkyyy - Reply to #137

FeelsBadMan

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CrazyAl ' - Reply to #95

av3k vs cooller semi final

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<< Comment #101 @ 06:14 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Gobotz

its on. no sleep

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Linkyyy - Reply to #101

comms on today too!

<< Comment #110 @ 10:18 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Anonymous (87.101.35.98)

Why is tox playing with cooller?

They don't like each other, they don't even talk between the games lol

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GogettO - Reply to #110

because money

<< Comment #109 @ 10:17 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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ilikeyoudead

AMD namba wan

<< Comment #104 @ 08:48 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Ffleri

what a great game with so many highlights
+ av3k playing from space :D

<< Comment #105 @ 09:15 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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ScanX

giving us a taste of the Liquid comms and then back to casters after 30 seconds is really painful...

listening to their comms makes it soooo much more interesting and entertaining

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megaman3 - Reply to #105

TBH theres no need to have like 8 casters nor have this level of production either, for a game with like 1300 people on Steamcharts and that only needs two casters + comms.

All this waste makes QC look like a money laundering operation.

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #112

my thoughts exactly, just 4 decent commentators would have sufficed.

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xero- ' - Reply to #112

Flee, Jehar, Ketchup, Kaplan, Zoot?

Edited by xerosawyer at 20:27 CST, 1 December 2018

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megaman3 - Reply to #119

Plus Fortylions and Makaveli.

Seven casters and they don't make one ddk or half a 2gd.

Edited by megaman3 at 20:35 CST, 1 December 2018

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xero- ' - Reply to #120

I think you misunderstood, let me clarify.

Who would like to have seen there of the available people that went while narrowing it down from seven people? I think you could cut out 40 and Makaveli without losing much, although I think 40 does have a good voice for casting. He could hone his craft further via online cups, which I believe he is doing. Makaveli has been literally repeating the same garbage since his first appearance and why he's constantly given an oppertunity over other community members that have served the community better, and have shown much stronger loyalty towards the community is just baffling (or some internal id politics).

I think the five I name are pretty strong for what's available in the community at the momemnt, with the exception of nvc being able to replace one person, possibly Zoot.

I think ddk and 2GD were great, but there is a strong nostalgia factor it comes to casters of yesteryear.

Edited by xerosawyer at 08:39 CST, 2 December 2018

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #148

dis and vor were the best tdm casting duo on the planet for quake, do not know how they would have done for this super high pace 2v2, but would have liked to hear.

Jehar and Ketchup are the only good ones among this current bunch of 7. I expect better of zoot because he is a decent player in quake himself and should have better understanding of fundamentals but he always disappoints somehow.

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xero- ' - Reply to #221

Fair enough.

<< Comment #108 @ 10:17 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Vygas

Cypher Avek team "Nemiga" in Lithuanian it means "Insomnia" ♥
Loveing it.
Esreality - please add LIKES to posts that we can support your great work over the years.
Thanks

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<< Comment #121 @ 21:18 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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Gobotz - Reply to #108

Mynigga Av3k
Mynigga Cypher

<< Comment #239 @ 13:02 CST, 8 December 2018 >>

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Anonymous (84.231.13.98) - Reply to #108

Nemiga is a river in Belarus. Why would they have used a Lithuanian word?

<< Comment #107 @ 09:46 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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GEKKO-

Heard during DreamHack breakfast
Cooller: Tox.... Tooox.
Tox: What?
Cooller: Rapha is danger.

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<< Comment #114 @ 12:07 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp '

congrats to last chance (venom and vedmedik) for making a mark at this tournament.

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<< Comment #118 @ 20:20 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #114

It's a shame there was not third place game. It would've been nice to see them go against av3k/cypher.

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Lam | - Reply to #118

It's a shame it wasn't double elim, or maybe just give Liquid the money and let everyone else play each other, because we got 2 "premature finals" in a row (and I think both of those teams could win over AMD which scored second place just from being on the other side of the bracket).

Remember when Carmac was defending SE brackets because the show is better and people are only interested in knowing the winner? That might work when you're doing a tour, but here AMD got $20k and Myztro CIS $5k, that's a huge difference that we can argue was just down to luck.

EDIT: My bad, Myztro CIS actually lost to Cyberfight in the elims, so it was their fault for being placed on Liquid's path this early. But I stand behind Nemiga vs AMD!

Edited by Lam at 02:42 CST, 2 December 2018

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xero- ' - Reply to #123

It was DE until TOP8, and then it went to BO5 SE, which I don't think is a bad format.

<< Comment #115 @ 12:51 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp '

kinda wrong to not even contest for quad with 5 frag lead and let dahang run around stacked on a free quad.

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<< Comment #116 @ 13:23 CST, 1 December 2018 >>

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morpheus305 - Reply to #115

I was thinking the same thing. I was rooting for liquid so I was happy about it but a dumb move. Tox was totally clueless that time was running out at the end.

<< Comment #124 @ 03:40 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Ffleri

was tox vs av3k game streamed? can't find vod

<< Comment #126 @ 04:34 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #124

dont think so, wanna watch cooller beating dahang aswell but cant find it

<< Comment #196 @ 18:41 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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baksteen - Reply to #126

Nitrino streamed it on his twitch channel, the quality is shit but it does include reactions.

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<< Comment #131 @ 05:39 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Lam | - Reply to #124

JKaplan streamed a toxjq shoulder cam on his Twitch Channel, maybe not what you're looking for, or maybe even better ;)

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<< Comment #125 @ 04:13 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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ulrich

Fuck me sideways, Rapha looks strong.

Who can beat him?

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sonic - Reply to #125

Edited by sonic at 04:49 CST, 2 December 2018

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<< Comment #128 @ 04:55 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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bolus major

oink

Edited by bolus major at 06:32 CST, 2 December 2018

<< Comment #129 @ 05:29 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #128

"he lands gently on Killsen's shaft" LennyFace

Edited by Aquashark at 05:29 CST, 2 December 2018

<< Comment #130 @ 05:37 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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hauer

k1llsen - agent ending. wat

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<< Comment #133 @ 05:41 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #130

agent panicked so hard =))

<< Comment #136 @ 05:45 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Lam | - Reply to #133

Not really, he shot a rocket in the ground in the correct place, but k1llsen double-jumped to avoid it before being able to take the last punch.

It might have looked like Agent just shot water randomly, but against any other champion that would be his frag.

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Lam | - Reply to #130

I laughed out loud :)

Of course k1llsen had a one round buffer so it wasn't "all in", but still super funny :)

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Ffleri - Reply to #130

"pew pew" :D

<< Comment #132 @ 05:40 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Linkyyy

Holy fuck ahahaha

https://clips.twitch.tv/RelentlessResilientZucchiniSMOrc

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<< Comment #138 @ 06:42 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Lam |

OK, can someone tell the casters that the knockback is a ratio based on damage?

Compared to previous patch, actual LG push is higher by 1,7%. Unless there was some rounding error before, ONE PERCENT CHANGE does NOT suddenly make it "immense knockback" like Ketchup and JKaplan misunderstood from the patch release notes.

I don't notice any difference in stuff like ztn levitation compared to before (esp. since 1,7% difference is nothing compared to normal variance in accuracy). Am I wrong and can't see what everyone else is seeing?

<< Comment #139 @ 06:50 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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mouse*

Shoutout to makaveli because I know he will read through this in 2 days or so.

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<< Comment #141 @ 08:01 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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sonic

COOLLER

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Linkyyy - Reply to #141

O

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xemorx - Reply to #142

X

<< Comment #143 @ 08:05 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Linkyyy

Edited by Linkyyy at 08:05 CST, 2 December 2018

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<< Comment #237 @ 07:39 CST, 5 December 2018 >>

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Anonymous (136.169.224.126) - Reply to #143

sativa?

<< Comment #146 @ 08:30 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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pet_cia_mole

It was satisfying to see clawz get rekt by cooller. idk, ez

<< Comment #145 @ 08:18 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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xemorx

I just love the background music all the time when listening to the casters! =)

<< Comment #156 @ 09:56 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #145

Reminds me of this
https://youtu.be/Wu6AAkcz-e0

<< Comment #147 @ 08:35 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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GUArd

Rapha and clawz should step up their game... with haircuts :)) ps. Somehow i watched few games from start to the end. Never happened before..

<< Comment #150 @ 09:04 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #147

Happy to hear the Ritalin is working for ya.

<< Comment #151 @ 09:29 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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yuri_akira

It seems that QC is finally enjoyable. Less random stuff, more pro quake.

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<< Comment #152 @ 09:38 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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muxen - Reply to #151

well, that respawn on ztn for rapha is random as fuck...unlucky killsen...

<< Comment #154 @ 09:53 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #152

let's not pretend spawns on q3dm6 or q3dm13 weren't fucking people over too.. it's the nature of the game

Edited by Aquashark at 09:53 CST, 2 December 2018

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<< Comment #162 @ 11:47 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #154

exactly, every previous quake had even more fucked up respawn game + spawn fragging was a normal practice whereas in champions its actually rare

Edited by Ffleri at 11:48 CST, 2 December 2018

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Ffleri - Reply to #151

for me its best quake so far, also production level for major events is far better now

really enjoying this dreamhack, took 3 days out of my life :D just like old times

Edited by Ffleri at 11:45 CST, 2 December 2018

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<< Comment #153 @ 09:49 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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cha0z_

Yep, as a lot mentioned - qc finally starts to show potential. Enjoyable tournament so far.

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<< Comment #155 @ 09:54 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Linkyyy - Reply to #153

Im not sure if i am just slowly getting used to it or what, but yea, i think it has been pretty enjoyable this time

<< Comment #157 @ 10:38 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #155

that's because there are no "press F to win" champs anymore.

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sonic - Reply to #157

if in doubt, tribolt out

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<< Comment #159 @ 10:55 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #155

I think toned down abilities helps a lot. Still gives advantage, but not that much. We will see, but so far so good, ateast now it feels like we watch QUAKE tournament.

<< Comment #164 @ 12:02 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #153

but when I will login and play I will again get turned off by stupid sound system and general lack of tightness in the engine and leave for another 6 months :P

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<< Comment #201 @ 04:10 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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erok - Reply to #164

It's been about 6 months since I last tried, let me know if it's time. :P

<< Comment #160 @ 11:40 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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pablonzo

av3k 3>

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wocK_

Awesome tournament. QC is on the right path for sure.

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<< Comment #179 @ 13:23 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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crack - Reply to #163

This.

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<< Comment #165 @ 12:03 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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aiken

I watched only Av3k vs Cooller so far, but it is amazing how these guys can deliver good show on a broken game.

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<< Comment #166 @ 12:23 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Thread Ender

I haven't checked anything quake related in quite a while, couldn't care any less about quake champions to be honest I hated that shit.

Somehow today I remembered this site and visited only to catch that amazing duel bracket for dreamhack (rapha,cypher,cooller,av3k,toxjq,voo...)

I tuned in late since I only got to see the latter part of the cooller vs av3k semifinal...

But damn dat shit almost brought me to tears of nostalgia of the old quake...

... the real quake

Great final for sure, I'm fully hooked to the stream, gl hf rapha and av3k.

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<< Comment #177 @ 13:12 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Thread Ender - Reply to #166

What a shitshow final... wtf was that?

I was quickly reminded how much I hate this iteration of the game. Sure rapha is the greatest of all time but wtf with that shit ass format of rounds of 3 kills, 3 rounds each map wtf is that? It takes the entire depth out of duel... you can't even plan a proper match against anyone with such a shit format.

This format of duel rewards frags more so than anything else. The problem is there's so much more to a game of quake than just frags..... how many great quake games started with somebody going down 0-8 or even worst at times and pulling out an amazing comeback once they established their own version of controlling the map? that's all gone, that can never happen in this shiteration...

fuck quake champions

<< Comment #178 @ 13:20 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #166

November's patch made QC be less ability-intensive and with that matches are way better than they used to be. That avek-cooller match couldn't have happened in October or earlier.

Of course there are some obvious things to be improved though, like Eisen's turret being too tanky (120 hp) and the turret blocks the enemy from picking items, Ranger's orb still deals too much damage (it's like 150 or something despite what the patch notes say), and Visor's and Galena's abilities should be toned down a bit somehow.

And about the format itself, I would like the devs to at least try to have continuous gameplay. Like make it an "arcade mode" and see how it goes.

Edited by megaman3 at 13:24 CST, 2 December 2018

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erok - Reply to #178

They know if they add continuous they will never be able to revert back to their newb friendly round system.

<< Comment #167 @ 12:45 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp '

rapha is at whole another level

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cha0z_

I feel that cooller would had give rapha a lot harder final tbh.

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<< Comment #169 @ 12:53 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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cyronix ' - Reply to #168

same here

<< Comment #171 @ 13:00 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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ProT : - Reply to #168

Probably would, yes.

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Ffleri - Reply to #168

yeah, I totally agree but at the same time I think av3k played better than cooller whole tournament

<< Comment #225 @ 00:05 CST, 4 December 2018 >>

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alb ' - Reply to #172

zat much will destroy our emotions

<< Comment #197 @ 02:32 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #168

haven't seen cooller playing more stupid though, than this game with av3k. Even the frags that he took were because he was outaiming heavily av3k.

he actually ruined the final too

<< Comment #222 @ 19:06 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #168

dont think so, rapha would have rekt him as hard. Rapha has clearly adjusted to the all possible sources of random damage like totem, turret flamestrike, orb etc sources of bullshit, once you cant surprise him anymore its back to basic quake and we all know he is the best player at that. Also he uses his active abilities far better than most players on almost all champions.

<< Comment #170 @ 12:56 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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fragmaster_

most boring finals ever. avek is just no match for rapha.

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GUArd - Reply to #170

And he was tired.. cooller better style wise to beat rapha.

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<< Comment #174 @ 13:02 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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GUArd

And 15k viewers. Not bad for quake

<< Comment #175 @ 13:07 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #174

Don't forget the viewers from the bethesda launcher!!1

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<< Comment #182 @ 13:52 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #175

And youtube. I was on youtube

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<< Comment #181 @ 13:39 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Anonymous (5.186.127.226)

Boring finals, but overall this was a great weekend. Haven't watched quake in so long, but this was fun. It almost made me wanna start playing again.

/sarac

<< Comment #176 @ 13:12 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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morpheus305

Rapha just plays on a whole other level than everyone else. His map awareness and item control are second to none.

<< Comment #180 @ 13:23 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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b1s - Reply to #176

That's always been true. The major difference with his game this past year has been his aim, which has gotten a lot better.

This whole tournament Rapha's rail and LG was top tier, combine that with his strategy/tactics and mettle he's unstoppable.

Pretty sure in both 2v2 and 1v1 he lost only 1 map and that was against k1llsen in the semi's.

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<< Comment #189 @ 16:06 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Anonymous (70.178.203.79) - Reply to #180

100% wrong. rapha achieved almost a third of his frags from abilities. he has mastered a dimension of the game that av3k doesn't even understand yet.

<< Comment #184 @ 14:26 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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harosh

I am Groot

<< Comment #185 @ 14:27 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Memento_Mori '

Any recommendation for specific matches?

<< Comment #186 @ 14:42 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #185

2v2: nemiga vs myztro eu
duel: k1llsen vs agent and av3k vs cooller

<< Comment #203 @ 05:11 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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wocK_ - Reply to #186

Is there vods on twitch?

If i don't see the specific games I will go find and post the specific time stamps

<< Comment #213 @ 11:16 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #203

https://www.youtube.com/user/car33m1/videos

<< Comment #220 @ 17:08 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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wocK_ - Reply to #213

Negami Vs Myztro Gaming EU
Killsen Vs Agent

Edited by wocK_ at 17:12 CST, 3 December 2018

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InDepther - Reply to #185

k1llsen vs rapha (probably the best 2 players of the tourney)
av3k vs cypher (av3k's best game)
cooller vs clawz (cooller's best game)
k1llsen vs agent (one of the best games of the tourney, agent is a genius)

wouldn't recommend av3k vs cooller, since cooller even though was making frags in situations where he had the less stack and was in a worse position, he made too many questionable moves and was like throwing the game (I am sure it wasn't on purpose). he couldn't follow up to his saying of knowing when to be aggressive and left too many times av3k with 2-5hp. At one time he got av3k on the juppad in ztn, did much damage and instead of finishing av3k and the round right there, he left the fight with much health and rjed to armor. Maybe, he thought he was a champ up (that he wasn't) and wanted to run the clock? Don't know, but even then, he should had stayed and finish av3k, a thing that he succeeded in situations 3 times worse than that great opportunity. He did many weird, unexplained moves like that.

Edited by InDepther at 04:02 CST, 3 December 2018

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slm - Reply to #185

duel:
(recommend) agent-k1llsen, pure ztn masterclass how to win being out-of-map-control
(not recommend) grand-final. Av3k spend too much energy on cooller in semis
tdm:
(recommend)
cyberfight-myztro
cooller/tox games pretty fun, except vs liquid

<< Comment #188 @ 15:52 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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bogOtac

lmao @ all of you

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bolus major - Reply to #188

bogOtac is on the right path

<< Comment #190 @ 16:27 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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ggnore

I guess I was right

<< Comment #193 @ 16:35 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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yoyoman

We need fox back for 2v2!

<< Comment #194 @ 17:31 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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baksteen

Really enjoyable tournament. QC is on the right path.

The result of last patch removing a lot of the randomness and ridiculousness: 8 QL top players in the top8 of this tournament.

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<< Comment #195 @ 18:15 CST, 2 December 2018 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #194

where were you?

<< Comment #198 @ 03:19 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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gbmaster ' - Reply to #194

better but still boring imo

<< Comment #200 @ 03:54 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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aiken

In the final match it looked like Av3k doesn't want to play slow methodical rounds as in match with Cooller. He knew that Cooller has good defensive rockets and didn't want to fell into that trap. He had too much respect to rapha's map control and forced too many rushes off the spawn that didn't work out at all. I don't know if it was him tired after Semi final. Rapha was far better but the game could obviously be closer if Av3k played it with cold mind.

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InDepther - Reply to #200

to me he didn't seem to have the skill to win rapha (at least not yesterday)

he was losing almost all fights to cooller too, but cooller was allowing him to live and he was giving him map control too easily. there was no way for rapha to do the same, give map control to av3k and thus, the game was doomed before it even started.

I was impressed though with his game vs cypher, where his mechanical skill looked crazy good. In the game with cooller he seemed like a whole class weaker, mechanically, but cooller wasn't controlling the maps well. Maybe, he was already tired in the game with cooller.

At some point with rapha, he got rapha's back and even then he didn't manage to do anything. If you can't frag the opponent at times like that, there is no way for you to win. It is just impossible.

<< Comment #206 @ 07:08 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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Ian215 - Reply to #200

Im not a fan of 3rd place final, but in this case more rest for av3k would have been usefull, he probably would lose anyway but was too tired after the long match vs cooller

<< Comment #207 @ 09:28 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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writhe

Vo0 going 0-2 in duel? dafuk

<< Comment #214 @ 12:49 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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baksteen - Reply to #207

The man's got no time to play half as much as the others + with the champion ban rule he gets robbed of his biggest talent.

<< Comment #216 @ 12:56 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #214

Maybe he'll have a role on a QC CTF team as attacker!

<< Comment #226 @ 00:08 CST, 4 December 2018 >>

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alb ' - Reply to #216

He'd be one of the best with this netcode for sure

<< Comment #209 @ 09:46 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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elr0S

watched only rapha vs k1llsen replay,1st round ztn;k1llsen got both ra , mh and rg.and he hit 2 rails,rapha escapes and spams tribolt,k1llsen dead...

<< Comment #210 @ 10:08 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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bolus major

Rapha's athena vs Tox Slash was insanely fast and agressive. Cool movement.

Why did they position that flea guy as makaveli's pet? Looked ridiculous.

Overall good to watch, but I can only watch short bursts, cause it's not thát good.

Edited by bolus major at 10:11 CST, 3 December 2018

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yoyoman - Reply to #210

Yea and his movement with slash is actually one of the best now whereas before it was one of the worst of the pros. He definitely improved his aim a lot within the past 6 months.

Edited by yoyoman at 20:25 CST, 3 December 2018

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sober - Reply to #210

"Rapha's athena vs Tox Slash"
what game was this man?

ps. the clawz vs dahang matchup in the Liquid vs Myz.CIS game is pretty insane too
fast edit: the liquid vs myztro.cis @ ruins

Edited by sober at 20:38 CST, 3 December 2018

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bolus major - Reply to #224

I believe that was a semi final.

<< Comment #234 @ 16:14 CST, 4 December 2018 >>

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Ian215 - Reply to #231

quarter final, rapha - k1llsen has been the semi

<< Comment #228 @ 04:21 CST, 4 December 2018 >>

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gbmaster ' - Reply to #210

"Why did they position that flea guy as makaveli's pet? Looked ridiculous."

maybe he is his pet :3 :3 :3

<< Comment #211 @ 10:20 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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lolograde '

Enjoyable tournament to watch. I think the game is maturing a bit... Not just because of the patches/updates but also the pro-tier players are getting a better grasp on how to play QC and the maps. Lots of really amazing play, strategies, and shots. Also, seems like all the weapons in QC are much more deadly than in previous Quakes. Time to kill can be really short combined with abilities.

2v2 is much, much more exciting to spectate than duel. Glad that is becoming the focus for QC tournaments.

Edited by lolograde at 10:26 CST, 3 December 2018

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<< Comment #215 @ 12:51 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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baksteen - Reply to #211

But 1v1 still getting the bigger viewer numbers. 2v2 was nice though, unfortunately it's expected that this was the last 2v2 tournament and that the next competitive teammode will be CTF which should launch soon.

<< Comment #218 @ 15:34 CST, 3 December 2018 >>

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nvc - Reply to #215

I really hope you're wrong. I don't want to watch competitive ctf on dm6 where items are not shared equally on two sides of the map.

I'd rather ctf stays in development until there's more than just one actual map in that respect, but that's just me.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #218

Didn't they release Sacrifice with new maps built for Sacrifice? I would imagine the same would be true with CTF. If/when CTF mode is added, it might come with symmetrical CTF maps.

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nvc - Reply to #219

It's launching with one ctf map, the rest are current maps until more are developed. I don't believe in necessary evils but we'll see.

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xero- ' - Reply to #233

The sole "CTF map" isn't symmetrical afaik.

Edited by xerosawyer at 06:16 CST, 5 December 2018

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nvc - Reply to #236

Yeah it's not and that's also stupid because there's a half time for "almost" no reason. Better than the others though since even distribution of weapons!

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<< Comment #242 @ 10:11 CST, 19 December 2018 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #241

It's just just weird.

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #211

agreed about 2v2 with one condition: let the comms be more prominent

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_agu

how ended the final ranking? duel and 2on2?

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Linkyyy - Reply to #227

Rapha stomped av3k in the duel finals
Rapha&Dahang(Liquid) stomped Cooller&Tox(AMD) in 2v2 finals.. :)

edit: Updated the main post with results

Edited by Linkyyy at 05:02 CST, 4 December 2018

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lolograde ' - Reply to #227

Av3k and Cooller had a REALLY LONG series in the semifinals with Av3k winning 3-2. In the tiebreaker map, it went down to the very last champ. Really intense. That apparently wore out Av3k because he didn't put up much of a fight against Rapha in the grand finals which took place like 20-30mins after his match with Cooller.

Rapha only lost 1 map (against k1llsen) the entire duel tournament and lost no maps in the 2v2 tournament. So basically, Rapha had a near flawless tournament.

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<< Comment #229 @ 04:43 CST, 4 December 2018 >>

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mala

wp Rapha!

<< Comment #238 @ 04:04 CST, 7 December 2018 >>

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garz

DaHanG is analyzing DHW2018 Grand Final

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mala

really nice