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Forums > Quake Champions Forum
June Patch Update 13.06.19 (78 comments)
( Forum: QC)
Posted by sonic @ 05:43 CDT, 13 June 2019 - iMsg
https://quake.bethesda.net/en/news/2BV7mvg2XyHSf2pQInC9mN

https://neatclip.com/clip/x8yyq0n8q
Edited by sonic at 05:45 CDT, 13 June 2019 - 23322 Hits
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<< Comment #1 @ 06:22 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Quake Saeth 
Available only in Custom Game, Time Limit Duel is a a roundless time limit-based duel mode

Does this mean no match making for this mode?
<< Comment #2 @ 06:30 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #1
yeah, the only way to play it is adding people to custom lobby. another great decision by the top men at id software..
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<< Comment #3 @ 06:40 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Quake Saeth  - Reply to #2
Tim Willits has been on fire lately.
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<< Comment #6 @ 09:35 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Malaysia lolograde  - Reply to #3
Tim works in mysterious ways. Who are we to question His will?!
<< Comment #15 @ 15:49 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #3
Unfortunately, only figuratively
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<< Comment #7 @ 11:22 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Ireland Anonymous (82.132.220.91) 
Hopefully literally.
<< Comment #4 @ 07:40 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By United Kingdom gbmaster 
I know I give QC a lot of shit but this update contains EXACTLY what I wanted to hear:

Reported backtick in ENEMY`S PICK fixed to ENEMY'S PICK
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<< Comment #5 @ 09:03 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic 
Latest "update" just deleted the game

finally an update worth downloading

Edited by sonic at 09:13 CDT, 13 June 2019
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<< Comment #74 @ 10:09 CDT, 18 June 2019 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac  - Reply to #5
Edited by bogOtac at 10:10 CDT, 18 June 2019
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<< Comment #76 @ 14:17 CDT, 21 July 2019 >>
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By Poland SmackGyver  - Reply to #5
Hahahahaha ...
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<< Comment #8 @ 11:26 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac 
Meow Meow.
Meow.
<< Comment #21 @ 01:41 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Finland Vajra  - Reply to #8
Woof Woof
<< Comment #30 @ 03:04 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #21
Chirp chirp.
Chirp.
<< Comment #75 @ 05:57 CDT, 21 July 2019 >>
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By Chile The_Sh33p  - Reply to #30
Baaa Baaa
Baaa
<< Comment #77 @ 01:42 CDT, 24 July 2019 >>
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By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann supremee  - Reply to #75
Meep Meep
<< Comment #78 @ 07:38 CDT, 24 July 2019 >>
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By Chile The_Sh33p  - Reply to #77
I'm a sheep.
<< Comment #9 @ 12:57 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By South Africa sTPHN 
xd
<< Comment #10 @ 13:17 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Spain lokaria 
features like switch weapon on empty, low health warning, and show damage indicator

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
<< Comment #12 @ 15:15 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Portugal J P 
backtick in ENEMY`S PICK fixed to ENEMY'S PICK

3 months work
<< Comment #11 @ 14:27 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By :-]] alb 
Logged into steam this morning to find out the whole game directory was suddenly empty. How is this even possible? Have to download 22+ gb for a bunch of lore items now and cvar/cfg changes.
<< Comment #42 @ 09:46 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #11
Why would anyone even bother download that crap?
<< Comment #13 @ 15:39 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By wc3_human i33 
Reduced hitbox size. facepalm i can barely see this models, 2x model size 2x hitboxes.
Edited by Volk at 15:41 CDT, 13 June 2019
<< Comment #19 @ 00:34 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #13
They only reduced the hitbox size on the big champs.

People hit higher accuracies in this Quake than previous Quakes, so they are probably too big.
<< Comment #22 @ 01:47 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By wc3_human i33  - Reply to #19
the last time i played qc which was like half a year ago, player models where tiny and there was some kind of triangle above them, either removal that triangle or increase visibility of those models cause it looks stupid as fuck to fix visibility issues with triangles floating above every player. a better way would have been to either add more light to models or add aura effect that would blend with model, rather than basically a red arrow above their head which defeats the purpose of looking at the player model altogether to read the direction of their movement etc.
Edited by Volk at 02:01 CDT, 14 June 2019
<< Comment #23 @ 02:03 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #22
They have enemy outlines now (and for a while now), and you can set the colour of those. Yellow seems to work pretty well.
<< Comment #24 @ 02:16 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #23
I should add also that you need to set those outline to be turned on ALWAYS. By default, they only turn on due to attack.
<< Comment #25 @ 02:16 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By wc3_human i33  - Reply to #23
nice, did they actually move development back to id team, cause those saber guys in russia are dumbasses.
<< Comment #26 @ 02:18 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #25
I'm not sure whether that was ever officially confirmed. I think there was just some Saber artist saying that was the case, and it probably is given that patches are coming out less frequently now.
<< Comment #27 @ 02:22 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By wc3_human i33  - Reply to #26
yeah i heard that too, i think it would take time to fix all the crap that those monkeys coded into the engine if that's the case. i think all lags and stuff is solely their fault.
<< Comment #28 @ 02:24 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #27
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the coding was almost entirely done by Saber.
<< Comment #14 @ 15:40 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Exelent nex1 
How in the FUCK is it even possible for a patch that contains literally no more than 2 lines of code to weight 22 giga-bytes?!?!?

Damn, Tim Willits, Sponge and Adam Pyle must have Aphrodite-tier of cock sucking skills to keep getting paid for this. And it ain't minimum wage pay either.

Seriously, the execs at bethesda must have a thing for bald men that look and sound mentally challenged. The male version of dumb bimbo and milf rolled into one.

What a fucking shitshow. And let's not even start about the new "battle pass".
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<< Comment #29 @ 02:50 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #14
I think they use some kind of compression or encryption on the files that works such that if even one byte of the original file is changed, the whole file that you get changes.

I think they're a bit like Apple with their updates: "Everyone has fast internet now, so just replace everything every time."
<< Comment #16 @ 17:47 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Smiley melachi qub1t 
getting the battlepass is not worth it tbh xD

new maps? when?
MAPS?!?!?!!
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<< Comment #17 @ 18:33 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #16
Why do you need a map? Are you lost?
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<< Comment #18 @ 22:17 CDT, 13 June 2019 >>
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By creep trademark *creep  - Reply to #17
Edited by *creep at 22:18 CDT, 13 June 2019
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<< Comment #20 @ 01:25 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl 
Mad world...
<< Comment #31 @ 03:13 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Poland dehumanizer 
giving a fuck about qc in 2019 xD i mean, its been a great shitshow for the last two years, but let it die already.
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<< Comment #32 @ 15:24 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Austria r34Lh4t3  - Reply to #31
amen
<< Comment #33 @ 17:36 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By QW_ cyronix 
while QC is an abandoned game, I will continue to play it for now ...
there are some really good maps, blood covenant, awoken, ruins of sarnath, corrupted keep, the other maps blood run and molten falls are still good, and tempest shrine and church of azatoth are also still valid maps ...
I think the balance fixes are okay, true the battlepass items are a joke though, but overall QC is still a good game and I actually like abilities, if done right and most abilities are okay ... it could be better, but what can you do ... :-) its still not bad, in table tennis and table soccer you also dont complain that there is no new content ... there is just no better game around imho., I will not play Fortnite/Apex or some tactical shooter ... and diabotical, at first I was open to the concept of eggbots, but from what I have seen now in first video, I dont really know anymore ... anyway my pc right now runs QC most of the time fluid and the gameplay experience overall is still the best out there, no game on the market can give that to me, rocket launcher, lightning gung, complex movement and fast paced game and respawning ... and players to play with :-) (hey reflex) ... the best step by bethesda would be to open source the game and give server executables to players, there would still be some valid potential :-)
Edited by cyronix at 17:43 CDT, 14 June 2019
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<< Comment #34 @ 19:46 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac  - Reply to #33
you sure you didnt wanna post that here:
https://www.esreality.com/post/2930179/bullsh...gists-say/ ?
Edited by bogOtac at 19:47 CDT, 14 June 2019
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<< Comment #35 @ 23:24 CDT, 14 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #34
I know it is trendy and cool to shit on QC, but there's some fair points in there, and it's just a personal experience of the game after all. Or do you need to be copy-pasted into the thread of shame for saying you actually enjoyed yourself while playing it---even if it is true. :D

I don't mind loading it up for a few games every now and then. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for QL. The "vibe" it used to have just isn't there now, and it's mostly just CA.

If there were nothing good in QC, and it were just 100% shit, no one would even look at it or talk about it. They'd just not play it.

And if QL were perfect, they would just be playing that, and they'd be completely satisfied so they wouldn't need to talk about QC.

They complain about QC because they like it just enough to play it and then get annoyed by its problems.

no game on the market can give that to me, rocket launcher, lightning gung, complex movement and fast paced game and respawning ... and players to play with

This is basically it. The other Quakes and Quake clones that can give you this have far fewer players, and that's because more people think QC is more enjoyable for them than the alternatives.

I daresay a lot of people these days get more enjoyment from complaining about Quake than playing Quake.

the best step by bethesda would be to open source the game and give server executables to players, there would still be some valid potential

Sadly, I just don't see this happening. The game has a shelf life, but that makes it like most online games out there today.
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<< Comment #36 @ 05:54 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #35
You sure you didnt wanna post that here:
https://www.esreality.com/post/2930179/bullsh...gists-say/ ?
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<< Comment #38 @ 07:29 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #36
:D
<< Comment #37 @ 07:25 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac  - Reply to #35
You sure you didnt wanna post that here:
https://www.esreality.com/post/2930179/bullsh...gists-say/ ?
<< Comment #39 @ 07:29 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #37
:P
<< Comment #40 @ 08:31 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Germany garz  - Reply to #35
You sure you didnt wanna post that here:
https://www.esreality.com/post/2930179/bullsh...gists-say/ ?
<< Comment #63 @ 13:28 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #40
Post all you want to post in Sanchez thread.

Also *Drk is raped* is good choice.
<< Comment #73 @ 17:40 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By QW_ cyronix  - Reply to #35
If there were nothing good in QC, and it were just 100% shit, no one would even look at it or talk about it. They'd just not play it.

True

They complain about QC because they like it just enough to play it and then get annoyed by its problems.
Well, they complain, because of the unused potential and the minimal work that is happening in patches, they expected so much more, but I think people realize now that id is not anymore putting any effort into the game ...

I daresay a lot of people these days get more enjoyment from complaining about Quake than playing Quake.
I am not sure if there are a lot of people, but there are surly some people on reddit who have not even played 30 matches in that game and are really only subbed to spread hate

Sadly, I just don't see this happening. The game has a shelf life, but that makes it like most online games out there today.

Yeah, bethesda has not really a history with open source, and them filing a lawsuit against J.C. carmack just to rip him off doesnt really make them a "good" company on the outside that has high morales and cares for the gamers ...
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<< Comment #44 @ 09:52 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #33
Bring the diaperslaps for this man and lets treat his mental disease that he got from having sex with sponge / syncerror by treating him with good ol quake 4 100-0 duels.
<< Comment #51 @ 19:23 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By CGS-Birmingham Salvo qahdrk  - Reply to #44
Leave the diaperslaps to me, oke?
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<< Comment #64 @ 13:29 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #51
Diaper man are you gonna take this duty to correct the sinful ways of qc gay lovers.

Its the question of quake world survival.
<< Comment #66 @ 17:41 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By CGS-Birmingham Salvo qahdrk  - Reply to #64
i always deliver and live up to my name. im up for some more diaper content.
<< Comment #56 @ 08:23 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By 2k2_2 Nukm  - Reply to #33
i dont get the other replies, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
despite all the issues, the game is still fun and there are enough people around to find games quickly. im going to continue playing it until there is a better alternative.

this update and the new battlepass are still a joke though
<< Comment #57 @ 08:35 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #56
There's a lot of complaining, but Europeans have got it pretty good with 30-60 seconds wait for a match. That's a dream here.
<< Comment #58 @ 08:46 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #57
Dont know about 30secs, I remember waiting for 30 mins on qdeomn acc finding no match, when it found on 45mins mark, the people saw me and left server, I had a choice of playing with bots or another queue simulator.
<< Comment #59 @ 08:50 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #58
Probably your party SR was too high.
<< Comment #62 @ 13:27 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #59
Sounds like it was over 9000, even rapha not searching this long living in much less populated place.
<< Comment #41 @ 09:13 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou 
The real question I ask, though, is why when I'm playing TDM against bots, do I have two wait over 2 minutes between games (I timed it), skipping as many screens as possible, including 40 seconds "searching for a match".

Is the practice mode preparing me for the matchmaking experience too? :D
<< Comment #45 @ 09:57 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #41
Dont question modern technologies.
<< Comment #48 @ 11:48 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #45
Maybe they can add a new feature: send you an SMS when it finds a match. :D
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<< Comment #49 @ 12:12 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #48
Right, because soon it will take 24h to find a game in qc.
<< Comment #43 @ 09:49 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant 
At this point whoever still plays this game should be questioned by doctors.
<< Comment #46 @ 10:02 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #43
My rule of thumb is that if it requires fucking around outside of the game itself to get a decent match (stage 1 game death), then that's more effort than I'm willing to make these days.

So in Australia, your choices are more or less QL CA or QC.

I play very little anyway, and even God himself tried QC. :D
Edited by CaptainTaichou at 10:02 CDT, 15 June 2019
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<< Comment #47 @ 10:10 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #46
lol I didnt really play it.
Was just fooling around.

I had to install several programs to make qc work without freeze lags every 3-5secs.

Mouse input lag is still killing my aim in the game. I barely hitted anything. ;D

I might even load into it once a month or two just to troll, but never considered playing it. It leaves a very bad taste.
Edited by Godservant at 10:12 CDT, 15 June 2019
<< Comment #50 @ 16:48 CDT, 15 June 2019 >>
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By US-New York Gobotz 
I want a hot all girls team called "The BJ's"
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<< Comment #52 @ 04:16 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By Exelent nex1 
"Max speed decreased from 680 to 625 ups
Injection Speed Boost reduced from 816 to 700 ups
Friction 8 to 6
Ordinal Acceleration 15 to 10
Wishspeed from 35 to 30
Circle Strafe Friction 12 to 8 "


Aw shit, here we go again
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<< Comment #53 @ 04:40 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #52
Changing numbers back and forth.
<< Comment #54 @ 07:06 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #53
No surprises. It was predicted it would be this way as soon as the champions concept was announced, before anyone had even played the game.
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<< Comment #60 @ 11:01 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Jamerio  - Reply to #54
Its not that such a game could not work if the sufficient brain was in charge, but when it comes to balancing combat mechanics in a game like that, you need someone who can create rules to follow or you end up with a shit fest which doesn't work.

The game we all wanted was SF2 (pure) and we ended with Mortal Kombat (gimmick).
And worse of all, it run like shit for 2 years so the bad was amplified.
Edited by Jamerio at 11:03 CDT, 16 June 2019
<< Comment #61 @ 11:23 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #60
Are you saying Sync has insufficient brain? Tsk tsk.
<< Comment #65 @ 15:48 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #61
Are you saying he has brain?
<< Comment #67 @ 05:06 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #65
Are you suggesting he is a robot? It's possible! :D
<< Comment #68 @ 05:38 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #67
Did you watch hellsing ova?

Many references could be found.
<< Comment #69 @ 06:12 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #68
I don't think I did.
<< Comment #72 @ 15:46 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Godservant  - Reply to #69
I think alucard power limiters are one of the best examples of God Sanchez % Ability Limiters.

Edited by Godservant at 15:48 CDT, 17 June 2019
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<< Comment #70 @ 09:47 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By USA_UK Jamerio  - Reply to #61
Nope, just a general theory that these games could work with the right people behind them. QC was more than SyncError, and many of its problems were technical which has nothing to do with any of the designers.

But you would need to be a combat specialist to do it because you would need to see all the variables before you made the game.

QC was not a success to its fans because they had some of the highest FPS standards, but if they can sell the engine and concept to other ips like capcom, they could come out of it smiling because the majority of the players of those games are casual FPS players.

QC with their characters would work.

I would straight up buy Street Fighter Champions right now, playing ryu and guile in an FPS world, with special moves, backgrounds, music I'd shit my pants for that.
Edited by Jamerio at 09:52 CDT, 17 June 2019
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<< Comment #71 @ 12:55 CDT, 17 June 2019 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #70
I agree that Quake with characters can work.

It's not pure Quake, but I think pure Quake is a bit like a skateboard. It's just a board with some wheels. It's really simple. In the old days, it was enough. There's all these cool tricks you can do that take a lot of skill and are hard to master, but most people won't bother with all that, so they will want more bits added to it.

Games probably need more bits added these days to keep people interested.

The only question is whether a properly developed and marketed pure Quake game can still be a success.
<< Comment #55 @ 07:41 CDT, 16 June 2019 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #52
Aw shit, here we go again

Edited by sonic at 07:41 CDT, 16 June 2019
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