"What they might wanted to express with arena shooter is proper level design shooter."

Absolutely yes, correct.

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I always a feel a need to express somethin along these lines, usually with a lot more frustration and vindictiveness (or truth) wenever I see somone say the term "arena fps" lol. it honestly makes me fuckin cringe whenever I see it. And I honestly really suspect that's what the term was originally intended to do when it was came up with, to marginalize these kind of games cuz its honestly easier to make/develop the "RFPS" games, as well as invest in them commercially from that industry's standpoint as publishers, culture in the west/US or lack thereof, possibly even political interests, etc.

so whenever someone says the term "arena shooter" or "arena fps", people just think "corny" or "kinda weird" etc. (especially when looking at it as an outsider lol, the physics in quake gameplay can be humorous sometimes. any fps really, but especially in quake type games cuz of their nature)

thanks for expressin these sentiments I was gonna honestly try to address it in a thread too somewhere along the lines.

Unfortunately, I don't think this will ever catch on even if this may make the most sense. RFPS have been around for decades and no one is gonna jus start automatically throwin around the term RFPS all the sudden to refer to them, while most wont know what it means.

it also hides the fact that these aren't realy "realistic" games, and that theyre more or less dumbed down and lazily created. Which is important. I like the term "dumbed down RFPS" (which truthfully applies to CS as well, all the way back since it left beta basically).

I have some ideas though, and I think its important that this scene no longer refers to their games as "arena" shooters anymore, ever again. Ever. at least on that level I think the rest of the industry may catch on, especially if something else is done about categorizing them proper, even if its jus this scene runnin wid the "RFPS" term.

Cool idea

Haha thx

usually I'm making kinda the same point when trying to describe somebody what I play. I start of with telling it's a fps, but not a realistic one - not a war simulation thingy, like what most ppl have in their mind when they hear ego shooter. then go on describing differences in weapons to the realistic/military shooter genre, the movement system, sometimes item control stuff.
rfps definitely is a appropriate name for a lot of games out there. if noone refers to them as such the label is never gonna become established... so let's just use it. it's not like there's a lot to loose by that.