> This game had precisely ZERO PR around launch.

This was actually good because at launch it was still beta-quality. It got improved massively during the last 3 months.

IMO in Season 2, it should finally receive proper marketing, because now it's ready to be released for real.

There are still some bugs (like in every game), but the overall quality and stability is pretty good.

This is not true and actually arguably what contributed the most in killing the playerbase before it even started.

Again, for the few that don't know/remember, the game was made playable to streamers and whoever got a key at peak pandemic.... for about one week. As soon as people started getting interested and the game getting talked about, 2GD reasoned it was getting TOO MUCH attention, and like the prima donna he is, he wanted to play hard to get and pulled the plug.

WEEKS after that, they occasionally reopened the game for individual weekends only, to keep teasing and developing blue balls in the newborn playersbase because in their twisted minds the developers figured that's how a proper woman should behave.

The result is that when months later Epic finally got enough of their faggy shenanigans and forced them to fucking release the game once and for all, 90% of the people that saw Forsen and Shroud play the game on twitch had long forgotten it even existed, and this time the streamers weren't willing to play the game again just to remind them.

TL:DR: play hard to get, don't be surprised if you don't get got.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diabotical/comments/...;context=3

I'd like to offer a counterpoint to this. I'm a new-ish player as well, and a part of why I haven't been playing Diabotical super often is because I just feel like my options are either "super high pressure and intense Duel" or mindless frag fest, with no in between. There's only really one way to interact with the cerebral and tactical depth the game has to offer, and it's duel.

The thing is, though I like duel, I'm only really in the mood for it occasionally. I think a part of why AFPS games have had so much trouble is that for players who are tired of relatively mindless "kill things" modes and want something more, the only option is duel. And Duel is very niche in this day and age. Not many people want to 1v1. Certainly not many FPS players, outside of petty pissing contests.

So though I agree that Duel should be played up to an extent, I think they need to have much more to market in the way of in depth team modes if they want to succeed. There needs to be more casual/new player friendly alternatives to duel for those who want something with more depth.

Well-said. I think what you're alluding to is also the fact there has not been a concerted marketing effort to bring in new players. I believe that isn't because someone forgot, it's because they're being strategic with how they do it and are still testing the game over this 100 patches in 100 days period. Then when the game is more polished and has things like functioning friend lists and dedicated community servers, we will see the marketing push and influx of new players. We just need to consider ourselves beta testers for a little while longer.

I still do agree with OP that the dwindling player base is a problem, but I see it as a short term problem and not indicative of the game's long-term success.

" we will see the marketing push and influx of new players."

Hmm where did I hear this before, lemme think.... :)

I think they are taking a moment to do some work on the game before a big marketing push by Epic with corresponding tournaments and such.

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I view open release as what it was open beta, they keep improving the game based on our feedback, and they are getting additional funds to develop based on the battle packs, when the game is really polished is when I think they will make their real marketing push.

...are you just copy&pasting from reddit?

so what if some people wanna hype something to fame which will not work. let_people_enjoy_things.jpg

https://i.redd.it/fy0f17suvgw51.png

lol

It's not even about the graphics. Aiming at tiny floating spheres is simply fkn annoying. People keep telling me that's just me, but all the time when I watched DBT streams I saw ppl sinking into rage playing this game... they just couldn't identify why. I can tell them: because aiming at tiny floating spheres is fkn annoying af chore, instead of fun.

> Shaft need knockback badly
> It doesn't. You can take on someone mid-air and they have don't even get a change to move. I'ts possibly the most powerful weapon in the game if you can aim

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diabotical/comments/...;context=3

"Spherical hitboxes are superior"

"smart" ahhaha extreme amounts of copium.

- Worst player model the genre has ever seen (floating blank spheres wtf)
- Worst weapons and worst frags the genre has ever witnessed
- Worst sound effects the genre has ever heard
- Worst hitreg & netcode the genre has ever experienced
- Worst mode ever created (McGuffin- directly copied from the game you hate)

Must be really painful for you, the retarded elitist & purist afps crowd, to watch the 2017 QC totally owning your 2020 'pure' afps experience LOL

enjoy your doa DBT with floating spheres, cheers from qc qpl

- Worst hitreg & netcode the genre has ever experienced

hmm, why?

I think it's zero4 account

he's not wrong

Even god awful q4 had a much larger player base than dbt from what my very limited dbt experience has shown me. I can't really speak for QC, as I chose not to play that dumpster fire of a game. I do think dbt would have had a better shot at success if they had left open beta continue to run back in march. Killing the servers during a global lock down was an absolutely retarded move imo.

I do think that without an absolutely absurd amount of money spent on brainwashing advertising through every possible outlet (paying fucktard twitch streamers included) that we will never see an AFPS game with any sort of large player base ever again. It is truly a sad day my friends, this was our last chance and now we really are left hanging with our old man dicks in our hands (like we have time for video games anyway, but we could always hope right?)

q4 had the "quake" name
dbt has only 2GD as a marketing ;)

We need a Quake 5 with a hype and execution of SC2

SC2 ded geme

as RTS and compared to afps genre it is extremely popular

By "execution of SC2" you mean completely dumbed down in gameplay?

meh, I think that "completely dumbed down in gameplay" is unfair ;)

1)

they had 7 years of time to make a great game

meme

turns out, that its some boring eggshit game and quake champions is much more fun.
(dbt failed already 2 months after release, good job)


2)

all those ESR fanboys praised this shitty game.


meme

already told them in 2017, its eggshit. HEHEHEHE.
i just knew it.
:)))

Hahaha you’re sooooo right brotherman. Hory shet.

esr crowd already realised their precious baby (this pos game) got owned by qc pretty hard. So they jumped ship and ran away like cowards.

for extreme amounts of hopium and copium check out dbt reddit lol

maybe its like




and we will grow on it and love it in 2-3 years
change models add blood and metal

VOILA ppl will come AND even more important STAY LONGER THAN 2months :P

Zak, boom

Real people don’t play video games.