We need a rerun of the election, the commulists cheated

House of reps is republican dominant. Win win for everyone.

Please, let’s be calm and go back to fidgeting on our video games.

House of reps is republican dominant.

no its not

I wish it wasnt too late for that.

https://twitter.com/rockpapershot/status/1325755554309033991

You fucked up

99% of gaming websites are cucked.

I dont give a fuck about any of these sites, I'm showing that things have gone too far to be ignored even for people who just want to play some games and mind their own business.

As I already said, you fucked up by even checking them out in the first place.

There's a reason why Kotaku is a meme

TRUMP 2020 LESSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

Humanoid AI robots in Angelina Jolie shape will save us all,
mark my words

trans-formers

I can't believe how much evidence of questionable election fuckery is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan. I'm not even a Trump supporter (although I do learn towards him) but there is definitely something fishy going on...

I can't believe how much evidence of QAnon is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan.

I can't believe how much evidence of 9/11 was an inside job is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan.

I can't believe how much evidence of Pizza-gate is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan.

I can't believe how much evidence of vaccines cause autism is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan.

I can't believe how much evidence of flat earth is coming out and no one is talking about it besides fb and 4chan.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5c...ackmailed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5...pany_what/

Do me a favor and watch the youtube video and read some of the comments in the reddit links and tell me with a straight face that the media isn't making bs up and astroturfing hard against Trump. You don't even have to like him to know this.

That youtube video is also only talking about one specific article. Just imagine all the other bs they have made over the years from anonymous sources that have no way of being verified. Could you imagine reading those kinds of comments on reddit today?

u were talking about election fraud.

what has trumps treatment by the media got to do with that?

what evidence of large scale voting fraud do you find particularly compelling?

How is it possible a literal vegetable with an earpiece aka "Biden" got more than like five votes? Even the libcucks aren't that dumb. Trump won, it's just common sense, but keep getting brainwashed by the mass media aka mass propaganda machine.

good point

He's a lying dog-faced pony soldier, ignore.

You're right, but I posted that because lots of people don't realize just how much bs is being spread by the MSM and reddit and many people get their politics from there so if you are going to listen to my answer you need to at least have an open mind by questioning everything MSM has told you especially regarding politics.

As for your question, let me see.

- 6 states stopped counting all at the the same time as soon as Trump was ahead
- Benford's law states the way Biden won was statistically impossible without fraud
- Millions of votes lost or switched by the dominion voting system
- 29 States exceeded 100% voter turnout
- 14k dead people voted in Wayne County, Detroit
- 46k votes from 90+ year olds on election day in PA
- GOP poll watchers were asked to leave when the counting stopped for the day, hundreds of thousands of mysterious ballots showed up right after at 4am and the ballot counters inside started counting again so the observers came back but they were locked out
- GOP poll watchers were kicked out because of COVID concerns but not the DEM poll watchers even when they offered to go halves. They also put up cardboard over the windows to stop them from looking inside.
- 138k ballots were found to all be 100 percent for biden
- Chair of the Federal Election Commission said there is fraud
- MSM is reporting the whistleblower recanted when he is on tape saying he never recanted and there is a video of him being coerced by a federal agent
- There is a audio of a detroit pollworker training people how to cheat

Just by the sheer amount of fuckery coming out you know something is not right but even disregarding everything I just told you, look at their behavior.

- Pennsylvania ignored a supreme court order to stop counting
- Spammed the Trump campaign hotline for fraud
- Edited the wikipedia page for benford's law
- Spamming thedonald website with virus links
- CNN, CBS, ABC, FOX, MSNBC etc all deleted their election coverage streams
- Pennsylvania Democrats sued to stop GOP poll observers from monitoring the ballot counting in Philadelphia
- Censoring Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump on Twitter. I don't mean fact checking, I mean actual censoring

How can you trust anything the MSM says when -
1. polls were way off again
2. where are the riots? I thought the republicans were the violent ones?

I'm not saying I am 100% right about everything. We live in a post-truth society with malicious state actors (namely Russia and China) and social media spreading misinformation everywhere so you have to take everything you read with a grain of salt but it's obvious something is up when MSM or reddit won't even discuss the other side's point of view.

ok, pick which piece of evidence you think is the strongest and lets look into it.

Just by the sheer amount of fuckery coming out you know something is not right

no, you don't know that. by that logic you have to accept all of the conspiracies i just posted. it can equally be explained by motivated people pushing misinformation.

so far, the fraud claims have gotten nowhere in the courts, where there is an actual standard of evidence beyond conjecture and twitter posts

Ah yes, no evidence based accusations about voter fraud.

Remember "Muh Russia?"

they arent equivalent

I'd say they're pretty equivalent.

except, one has more credible evidence than the other.

im afraid to ask

it can equally be explained by motivated people pushing misinformation.

So really you have no problem with conspiracies so long as they serve your POV. Nice.

unverified claims from 4chan and right-wing twitter are not enough to conclude "there is definitely something fishy going on".
i don't really understand your point about having "no problem" with conspiracies, it doesn't seem to be related to anything I've said

People are motivated into pushing misinformation just for the sake of pushing misinformation?

Let's go with Sharpiegate then. I didn't post it in the original post but Sharpiegate was a big one MSM seems to be downplaying when the evidence suggests otherwise. Here are my sources - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEslMIlbAi8&t=17m01s and https://i.maga.host/tTG4wAh.png

EDIT: aaaaand the video is demonetized. The suppression of objective journalism from the other side's point of view is why you have lots of seemingly rational people coming out in support for someone as erratic as Trump.

half of those you listed are stupid, half of them are probably true. falling for such obvious manipulations like throwing every uncomfortable doubt into the "conspiracy theory" drawer...

which are probably true?

9/11 and pizzagate
now keep in mind, what I mean is, they probably have a true core, which is all that matters. Im not saying every little detail must be true. Im also not saying everything YOU read about it, or how you perceive it must be true. the world is not black and white and the reality is different for every person. I feel like I have to put stupid disclaimers

"QAnon" is just too broad a term, they have many theories which some are ridiculous.
One in particular I think is true, because famous people like Edward Snowden actually talked about it and explained the menaing: the "deep state" exists in america. It consists of all the public servants in higher power, plus their 'friends' which are the very rich. they stay in power no matter the ruling party or president. they do their 'jobs' no matter the circumstance, if you look at the atrocities of the cia for example. thats part of the deep state, that indeed kind of rules the US, despite the tv and newspapers telling a different narrative

TV and newspapers do not hide that there are people employed at the government that do all kinds of tasks, the kind that Snowden talked about. In fact I have extensively followed Snowden's story mostly through mainstream papers. I read his book, his tweets, nothing really different there was said about these people. The surveillance apparatus is fucked up, but nothing to do with people working in government being secret or the papers hiding either of these things.

I disagree. mainstream media indeed hides the proceedings in the background when it matters. some decades later it might come to light, like the cocaine story, the iraq lies, etc pp

while there's plenty to criticize mainstream media for like their being govt lapdogs for iraq, it's generally relatively truthful (certainly compared to 9/11 truthers or Qanon etc) and the example you chose was just dead wrong. You should read Greenwald's book about the Snowden story, he heaps praise upon the media for ultimately covering everything well and with haste. If you can't admit that, I think you might be talking about things with which you're not familiar enough

otherwise feel free to point out what dark truths Snowden has covered on his twitter / book that didn't get covered in huge papers

mainstream media is the only media that really matters regarding democracy. sure, some intellectual papers NY times or whoever, covers some stories early, or, in most cases, covers them after years when all the decisions, emotions, ability to veto are long gone.

What about the two examples I mentioned? Were americans informed about the lies used to attack iraq before it happened? were the cia cocaine affairs uncovered at the time? because lets go back to the start, thats how the deep state operates, they create facts, they lie to the president or whomever if its 'in interest of national security' which is also a lie in itself.

where were snowdens information uncovered in all its glory? please admit that the us media apparatus is second to none and is used to disinform the masses. the homeopathic truth here and there does nothing at whole

where were snowdens information uncovered in all its glory?

on places like this
https://www.theguardian.com/world/surveillance

I'm not denying things like the not being anywhere near critical enough during the leadup to the Iraq war. To take several (admittedly huge) examples of that and extend it to every case, including specific cases where in fact they reported everything quickly and truthfully shows an extensive bias

the only intellectual bias I admit to have is a reversal of burden of proof. I know us media and 'deep state' cannot be trusted because of the many uncoverings of the past, but also by my own personal common sense, listening to the sickness of whats happening behind the scenes, told by snowden as one example. so I tend to generally mistrust everything official or media until I have evidence of the contrary.

emotionally I am very biased of course. Id even say knowing what I know and not be absolutely pissed at the us politics and treatment of the citizens, youd have to be a little crazy, like pathologically dismiss everything negative or threatening to a 'beautiful world' view

Are you familiar with where the Snowden revelations were first published? How much they were covered in the dreaded mainstream media?

If not, seriously, why did you choose that example? I genuinely recommend you read Greenwald's book on this if you're not just pretending to care about the truth of this, he covers his interactions with the media to publish this. I don't think it's very intellectually excusable for you to talk of a specific example of the mainstream media covering up the truth and picking one where they were front and center of uncovering it.

otherwise, next time, I recommend you follow the lead of the rest of the conspiracists in this thread and avoid making any specific claims, lest it becomes obvious that Trump has been shooting blanks (or extremely insignificant claims at best) as far as his "election fraud" goes for example. Wisely, they are not going into the specifics of that

I dont know how many people were reached by which media outlets exactly, no.
I saw multimple documentaries about snowden, both of snowdens interviews with Joe Roagan in full and some others, in which he himself covers a lot, this also. but you have to understand, snowden had undeniable proof. I also know other media outlets tried to spin the narrative as always.

so, what should basically have happened is an investigation of the government themselfes into what goes on behind closed curtains. but it is halted by the key phrase 'classified' and a level of secrecy even before the politicians that is disturbing.

do you know 2013 the majority of us citizens were FOR a prosecution of snowden, aver 50%? why is that, if they are so greatly informed? because another outlet will say the contrary. that is not informing the public as I had it in mind...

There were investigations, the governments stopped them, the media didn't.

You've given me nothing against the overwhelming coverage of Snowden's leaks in the Guardian and other papers. The way you reason is absurd: if people are too dumb to appreciate the significance of something, it's the media's fault even if they covered it extensively enough, no matter how much they did? You're just going further and further away from the topic.

Just admit that you were talking out of your ass.

thats not what I reasoned, but ok. why dont you admit you are an asshole? learn civil dicourse first, I dont care otherwise

oh and stop pointing fingers in a hostile way this is ridiculous. follow the thread, you were the one derailing the topic of 'conspiracy theories', insisting us media coverage could not be bad because you know one example where it was not appaling, trying to lecture me about picking examples as well, when you are guilty of the same... are you projecting?

insisting us media coverage could not be bad because you know one example where it was not appaling, trying to lecture me about picking examples as well,

I didn't know one example. I pointed to the example you gave. I'll cop to not being entirely pleasant here, but I don't know that civil discourse necessitates being pleasant to people who lie their way through conversations

more provocations. well done!

I didnt lie you cunt
it appears to me now you never wanted to discuss, or convince with arguments, you wanted to be right in your world view. which leads to finally accuse me straight of lying.

Im not convinced, mass surveillance was not covered well by mainstream media.

this got boring really fast. fuck you narrow-minded ego idiot

what can I say, if you can take an example of something the media did well and by assumption take it as evidence for the theory that media does things poorly, can't in good conscience be that pleasant with you when you establish your views. They are utterly unfettered by reality

only you fantasized the first part. justifying your hostility with your imaginations. take a good look in the mirror pal

Snowden and Greenwald have themselves covered how where and why the leaks appeared. The former literally went to journalists to protect the credibility of the leaks. There's no fantasy, I've read hundreds of articles about it, both of their books, followed some of what Snowden talks about on twitter.

The main reason you seem to have given for why I should consider that a fantasy is your common sense:

the only intellectual bias I admit to have is a reversal of burden of proof. I know us media and 'deep state' cannot be trusted because of the many uncoverings of the past, but also by my own personal common sense, listening to the sickness of whats happening behind the scenes, told by snowden as one example.

Pardon me if I trust what I read with my own eyes--and what you could read yourself should you care to--over it. Another reason why it's insufficient that you've given is that people don't have the correct views on it:

do you know 2013 the majority of us citizens were FOR a prosecution of snowden, aver 50%? why is that, if they are so greatly informed? because another outlet will say the contrary. that is not informing the public as I had it in mind...

These people that primarily read headlines at best also don't have reasonable views on any number of things, including nutrition and health. Now, do you think we can hold media culpable for that and any number of incorrect views that people have? It would seem that their culpability is going to be endless in any case. Your argument is blaming the media for things they couldn't possibly do.

I don't know what other engagement you'd want, you've given me nothing but wild conjecture over reading what is plainly out there.

I'd also suggest that you consider what damage rhetoric like yours does to the credible reporting done about things like the Snowden leaks. I don't see how people who didn't trust that evil mainstream media were in a good position to accept the knowledge from leaks that were published on said mainstream media.

I'm not a native speaker, half of what you wrote is incomprehensible to me. also I think it is crazy how you jump to conclusions without checking if you understood it right first.

Just this: snowden stated in the last interview with rogan that the polls about prosecuting him drastically changed (from 2013), now most of americans want him pardoned. the reason it took so long in my mind is exactly what can be discribed as post-fact politics and post-fact journalism. I dont know which windmills you are fighting. just stop.

I don't think what I wrote is inconsistent with the change of american views happening so slowly


if you're interested in hearing any part of my argument stated in simpler sentences and words, you can quote it and i'll rephrase it

yes it is. you are missing the part where a truth is drowned in a sea of articles/reports spinning the story, leaving out important things, downplaying it or straight denying it.
you for some reason felt the need to point out greenwald did such a great job. which surely he did. still, the american public was not thorougly informed. their mass media is like a brainwash machine, everthing is well controlled, orchestraded and in many cases fabricated. the us has the blueprints for the rest of the 'free world' like europe. I can connect the dots thus never cared about your argument in the first place. can you?

you are missing the part where a truth is drowned in a sea of articles/reports spinning the story, leaving out important things, downplaying it or straight denying it.
you for some reason felt the need to point out greenwald did such a great job. which surely he did. still, the american public was not thorougly informed. their mass media is like a brainwash machine, everthing is well controlled, orchestraded and in many cases fabricated.

Are you saying that this happened and you know it because people didn't start supporting pardoning Snowden faster?

in a way yes. also the fact the surveillance goes on until today. I do not think the reason might be citizens as a whole are too stupid. they are too manipulated, it is completely obvious.

Right, so that's what I talked about: instead of looking at the sources themselves, you assume the answer based on the result. You're doing 7D chess in place of reading. And using that to reinforce your general conclusions.

My arguments were on point, and your methodology allows you to think whatever you want to.

In this specific case - how do you propose this could be done?

it is hardly possible to go back and do detective work, check ALL the US media bits on snowden/surveillance, give them a value for honesty and a value for trustworthyness, then do a big statistic and conclude something about the honesty of information provided in general, on this topic.

Of course, for one you look at the result and make educated assumptions. This is not the only single thought process of judging information in this case, but an important one I'd say.

Your false assumptions seem to be
1 'once I can show a few credible, honest articles about snowden/surveillance, this is proof that mainstream media coverage was excellent on this topic'.
2 'crea denied good coverage of the topic existed'

This is not a 'methodology', but let me humor you - your methodology then is exactly the same, you look at a fraction of information and conclude something. You can make up whatever opinion, depending on what fraction you look at.

I didn't look at a fraction, I read hundreds upon hundreds of them. On many news sites. It is a good sample of the totality of the coverage on some of the biggest newssites. I also follow experts on this topic. I read (or listened to) Snowden's and Greenwald's books. Don't try to spin reading as somehow irrelevant because there is too much--you can certainly have some gauge over the sort of things that tend to be said on this or that newspaper, and that is much better than guessing based on what common folk believe.

I read them because it's a topic I care about, and so I've also talked to many people very many times about this issue, online and IRL. One of the main conclusions is that while some people are receptive, most are just fundamentally interested in feeling like their lifestyle choices are fine. Or that their state is benevolent, or that this is unimportant, or that anything to do with digital privacy means you're paranoid, you feel like you're being persecuted by the state personally, or you might start wearing tinfoil as your hat. This is despite me only using extremely reputable resources on this topic, because honestly those are depressing enough, no need to go into speculation.

People also don't often read. Or read headlines. Or read only things that roughly match their views. Skim. Never check the sources. On top of the aforementioned biases they bring to the table, judging the coverage by their views is very unreasonable.

So that's why your methodology is very flawed. Suppose though that your criticism of my methodology was true. Then it wouldn't be case that you are right and I am wrong, it would be the case that we just cannot know. Really pessimistic, I'd say.

Ok I understand, thats why you wanted to make this a case in point. Fair enough. Still I am amazed at the conclusion you came to.

Did I get that right? You say, the us citizens were well informed in the mainstream media. The reason they do not react as one would hope is because they are too stupid or lazy to understand?

I read them because it's a topic I care about, and so I've also talked to many people very many times about this issue, online and IRL. One of the main conclusions is that while some people are receptive, most are just fundamentally interested in feeling like their lifestyle choices are fine. Or that their state is benevolent, or that this is unimportant, or that anything to do with digital privacy means you're paranoid, you feel like you're being persecuted by the state personally, or you might start wearing tinfoil as your hat. This is despite me only using extremely reputable resources on this topic, because honestly those are depressing enough, no need to go into speculation.

Why do you think people, I assume studied, somewhat informed people, think like that? How do they come to these conclusions, when not reading hundreds of sources, but just those few easily available? I know it is a far stretch, but as I said,
These reactions of people are not accidental, they are the outcome of manufacturing opinions, twisting a story to fit the narrative of the news medium, adding generous amounts of FUD and exagerating the benefits of surveillance, and all the other hundreds of big and small rethoric tricks. Most powerful is not lying, but how the focus is set, which information to accentuate and which to conveniently leave out.

I am somewhat certain, if you read some of those mainstream articles again, with a different focus, you will see what I mean. Snowden uncoverings were no exception. I read a lot of bullshit in mainstream media at the time and heard a lot of manipulated bullshit view I had to argue against.

This is the depressing part for me, not that we cannot discern the truth anymore, but the effort to uncover iis unreasonable. You need to be very sceptical. But without the effort, you are best served by not forming an opinion on a topic, because you generally cannot trust the portreyed story and facts. And while you inform yourself independently, while you get a broader picture, you will then always argue against the most easy, convenient views because there is even a strong emotional motivation, you the argue against wrong information AND lots of hidden, underlying fears, and the tendency to supress negative inforation that threaten a positive world view.

Why do you think people, I assume studied, somewhat informed people, think like that? How do they come to these conclusions, when not reading hundreds of sources, but just those few easily available? I know it is a far stretch, but as I said,

They aren't studied / informed! Sure, may of them are educated in their fields. That doesn't necessarily translate into other fields, I'm sure you can think of countless such examples. Typically they'll use social media over reading the news, only read headlines if that.

Usually they'll either be uninterested in politics (thus won't appreciate the principle of not being spied upon even if it doesn't already directly affect them; won't appreciate the significance of constitutional rights being broken; won't appreciate the relatively obvious effects of the way companies can abuse this information against the typical consumer; won't understand that it's probably true if it's covered in academic articles and all of mainstream news etc) or they won't have much of any understanding of technology (writing any amount of code, looking at any internet connected technology will typically immediately point out the scary amount of information that can be collected etc).

Most people don't engage with media critically, they'll think on a "can I believe this / can I reject this" basis and use the first thing that comes up as confirmation of it. Mainstream media can't beat that when social media offers it conveniently.

There's certainly tons of ways we can criticize parts of mainstream media for not covering it enough, or more often for uncritically covering governments abusing people's privacy in general as opposed to Snowden's revelations. Plenty of times it'll be something to do with defense, terrorism, or irreflexively scaremongering about criminals, drug users and so on. But most of it will be done by politicians or on social media. The situation there is so, so much worse than on say NYT or The Guardian, who have covered Snowden's leaks mercilessly over a very long time. I've read about this stuff from around 2013 to now, I'm fairly certain I'm not wrong about their slant.

And the reality is, almost everyone won't have read almost any of it. Nobody has time, everyone is tired, they prefer watching TV shows or whatever else. If they're into politics, it'll probably be on social media. Here, people will be more likely to worry about a youtuber they know getting deplatformed than about entire countries being unconstitutionally spied upon. As I explained previously, they'll have a number of biases where even when presented information, they'll just want to throw it away. The gulf between mainstream media and then social media, and then finally the average person is massive.

So I really don't think we can expect mainstream media to force people to think. Not unless we want them to be relentless activists that people are forced to watch, because even if they were aggressive about such info, people wouldn't want to watch.

forgot ignoring

You never quote or link anything to do with the guardian

Unless of course it goes bankrupt.

thank you for advice but i will not be taking it at this time

Deep state is true, but it is nothing out if the ordinary. This is how the world is structured. If you were born in certain communities you most likely stay in certain communities.

agreed.

but the spin they tried to give this ordinary truth, by labling it conspiracy theory or using every other dirty argumentative trick in the book, is very telling.

the prosecution of assange to silence critic journalism is another truth thats very telling. democracy (even democracy 'lite' of the last decades) seems on the brink of collapse

The fact that Trump lost is for me proof for a very well functioning democracy.

That is not a democracy, especially as the swings started behind closed doors.

This won't be going away and I don't know about you but if things do turn nasty, I would not want to be on the Blue team :)

Why don't you go to another country where democracy is not very strongly evolved if you don't like it? I guess there are enough countries where your way of thinking comes in handy. And where you would even be right assuming that votes were rigged. And then you may even get your revolution. Where you could go out on the streets and shoot at other people. Would that not be an amazing life style? Why go to work, having civilized decisions and live in peace when the world could be so more exciting? Jamerio, do it. You are a fighter.

I think he's British

where should he go?

To Germany where Merkel is just getting Ermächtigungsgesetz 2.0?

Maybe to your underdeveloped country?

Most of that red = poplulation density 1 to 5 person per square miles.

https://i.redd.it/jotr8catz0111.png

There's electoral maps that take that into account, also. They're just not Jamjam's jam.

the reality is different for every person

they did warn me about the neomarxist postmodernist subjectivists

I knew some readers might jump out of the hedges because of phrasing and the like, hence the try of disclaimer...

the perceived reality is different for every person. because our filters in our brain are wired and learned different. that does in no way mean an objective truth cannot be achieved or should not be strifed for

is that detailed enough?

yes, thank you

Also I don't even believe the 9/11, anti-vaxxers and flat earth conspiracy. Pizza-gate is probably true to an extent. If you actually followed it from the start, most of the people simply wanted an investigation into all the suspicious activities but of course the crooks won't investigate themselves and then it got overrun by nutjobs with shitty evidence.

There arent many places where you can openly talk about it though. Social media are thought-policed and heavily censored, MSM have been a joke for a long time (including Fox News) and in real life, at least in the US, people have been beaten or murdered over something as simple as wearing a maga hat.

Yea people who wore a Hakenkreuz did also murder a lot of people who not wore a Hakenkreuz

ashkeNAZI.

I wanted the orangeman to win.

Instead he will go to jail. What a pity. He will be missed.

That will never happen, Trump has too much money.

He as over 1 billion dept

Lol, at least he loves girls, instead of poo-teen prefaring boys, haha.

He loves his daughter lol

Biden is probably guided by more sane group of people in the background then Trump, which slightly deescalates the situation of 'being the most powerful person on earth, but being really stupid and unpredictable at the same time'.

That said, Trump really did ease the US relationship to Russia and China. I worry that Biden, more the group of people behind him, might escalate relations and further the "doomsday clock" even more.

could you elaborate?

on what specifically?

you probably know the situation. the world missed destruction by nuclear missiles a few times already during the cold war. once a single nuclear missile is started it will inevitably lead to a chain reaction.

the doomsday clock is an actual estimation of how close humanity is to extinction. the most likely scenario is the fallout (followed by meteor strike, artificial intelligence and global warming).

trump somehow had good relations to russia/putin. they wished for trump to win. I dont know what biden/democrats winning will mean in terms of relations to russia and china.

lol, yes I am familiar, but I just see some contradictions in what you say.

You know that the recent elevation in the status of urgency of the "doomsday clock" is directly related to Trump's environmental and foreign policies right? And I can hardly see how Trump's trade war with China is considered as easing relationship to China. Meanwhile China is laughing in Trump's face while it steams ahead with it's Belt and Road initiative across Asia.

And Putin preferred Trump because he's an easy opponent for the "chess with guns" Arabia-Iran proxywar that Russia and US have been playing in the middle east for some years now, and because he is easier to manipulate and take advantage of, he's prone to make ballsier moves and therefore bigger mistakes, and not because there's "somehow good relations". There is no such thing as good relations between US and Russia, ever since Russia recovered their military power and influence over a decade ago it's been Cold War resumed (but with the addition of China joining the FFA), and it seems to me that Russia has been playing the US like a fiddle. Putin is considered the most powerful person in the world, and Xi is in close 2nd. Trump is relegated to 3rd place. He attempted to make up for it by "making america great again" which basically consisted of taking away 60 billion dollas from actual americans and pumping it into the already ridiculous defense budget.

I asked you to elaborate because I was wondering what made you think that Trump eased the relationships with Russia and China and how Biden's people (I haven't been following who's in his cabinet) would escalate things and advance the doomsday clock even further. Not saying they won't, republicans and democrats are same shit different asshole, warmongers alike, but considering climate change is the #1 contributor to the doomsday clock escalations and considering Biden intends to reverse Trump's withdrawal from Paris Agreement, that's at least one thing (probably the only thing) that goes in Biden's favour in that regard? Unless you're aware of any specific democratic warmongering initiatives going on, I haven't been following it too much in that regard.

That said, my support for both candidates is absolute zero, they're both clowns and if you put aside all the twitter hype and WWF-level polarization the media and media-drones have come up with in last years, you'll see their foreign policies are fairly identical, the same US foreign policy any US president has had in last 70 years, and while USA continues projecting imperial military hegemony across the middle east and beyond to protect it's oil supply and destroying millions of lives in the process, there are no winners, imo.

Sorry I got carried away but I love a good rant

its a good rant
I did not know the doomsday clock advancement was mainly related to environmental policies, I thought it was unpredictability.

maybe the reason for better relations was trump being easy to handle, as long as they keep the trigger finger far away from the red buttons, its all I care about.

it is comforting to know environmental destruction is still far away in terms of my life expectancy. but my hope is with AI. The singularity might either destroy or enslave us all, or become the genie we so wish for and fix all our stupid human problems, because it will be an almighty god far beyonf our possibility of imagination

"it is comforting to know environmental destruction is still far away in terms of my life expectancy"

lol, really? I don't think it's very far, besides, it doesnt have to be environmental destruction, this civilization is coming apart at the seams, on every level. it's what george carlin would refer to as "circling the drain".

You're already living in the era of environmental destruction. Those forest fires in California and Australia, the heatwave in Siberia (which in turn causes greenhouse gasses to release out of the melting permafrost), islands in the pacific flooding, ice melting in the North Pole, the list goes on and on.

There are even theories that the Syrian civil war, which plunged the European Union into a crisis due to the refugee fall out, was ultimately caused by a famine due to a drought caused by climate change.

yup, retarded policies of assad which fucked poor people even further in combination with massive crop failure which led to mass migration of agricultural families to the cities and subsequent collapse of society

clintons absolutely despise russia and use mccarthyism as much as possible , putin obviously preferred trump in 2016 because of that. sometimes just take things at face value.

dunno about relations with china kinda all over the place.

crea didnt mention north korea at all for some reason, which he should've. trump did good there or at least good attempts - credit where credit's due.

Iran: trump left the nuclear deal which they (US) had violated according to international investigation, even though they kept blaming iran. also illegal sanctions like sanctioning medicine.
plus, assassination of soleimani - highly dubious that he was some kind of imminent threat to US in any way.

trump did not start new wars but continued the ones bush & obama had started, plus didn't bring troops home.

former advisor john bolton wrote a book complaining about how trump was too soft and not hawkish enough, not taking bolton's advices of military aggression, so there's that too...

I think things would've been way worse with clinton. remember the infamous "we came we saw he died" + maniac laugh when talking about gaddafi. she also flat out said in an interview she wanted to fucking destroy iran, there's a big chance she would've started direct war with them, if elected.


"Putin is considered the most powerful person in the world"
huh? according to whom? I mean, US has a larger military budget than the next 10 countries combined, so, technically the US commander in chief is the most powerful... by that simplistic measurement.

paris agreement is retarded and does literally nothing at all. like noone follows it, it does nothing. climate change is highly exaggerated anyway, I'm not denying it's real, but there's a lot of conflicting data, and a shitton of fear-mongering propaganda.
btw, it's not like biden gives a shit about climate, get real, he flat out said he won't ban fracking. in this current paradigm, no industry is going to move away from fossil fuels without some kind of urgent self-serving incentive.

I agree both candidates are absolute trash. the state of US politics is abysmal, it's a joke. I think there was definitely voter fraud this election, but we'll have to wait for hard evidence, which probably won't come before the inauguration. it might not be enough to matter anyway, plus I don't even care which one of them wins at this point, fuck them. presidents come and go, deep state remains.

I mean, I see Forbes and lot of other prominent journals rank Putin #1 (or Xi) in the last few years. I wouldn't judge it entirely based on military budget, since on the other hand you can also view it as the astronomical figure US needs to spend on defense in order to stay on top of things. Also, Russia is a lot closer to the middle east, whereas US needs to project their power half-way around the world and keep their large navy active at incredible expense. It costs the DoD between 1.5 and 2 billion dollars per day to keep the armed forces running.

But I also suspect it wasn't entirely this factor alone. Putin exerts a lot more direct power over Russia and his allies, whereas Trump can be thwarted more by congress and also the NATO alliance isn't quite as solid as of late (Turkey comes to mind). I think these are some of the points these rankings take into account. But I guess at end of the day these rankings don't mean much. 1, 2, 3. They are all powerful enough.

And yeah about the Paris Agreement there is no doubt this is a purely politically motivated move from the democrats from day 1, even since Al Gore, but if US takes it on board it might be a step in the right direction in the grand scheme of things (the main criticism of the withdrawal was precisely that without US spearheading any initiatives other countries would likely not give a shit either). Optimistic of me, I know.

Also interesting what you say about the Clintons and Mccarthyism, I never paid much attention to that, will need to read further about it. cheers

I mean the whole russiagate thing. that's been debunked a million times, not an ounce of evidence ever came out of it, nothing at all, as expected. it's all a distraction, and scapegoating. also projection, since actually clintons were the ones doing election meddling (2016 donna brazile leaking cnn debate questions to clinton campaign, ahead of time, as we learned thanks to wikileaks), then they turn around and randomly accuse russia of it. and sadly low IQ ppl eat that shit up. russians didn't hack DNC computers, it was a local download based on the DL speed, by DNC staffer Seth Rich who was the wikileaks source. he got murdered by clinton mafia on his way home from a bar, in 'botched robbery' where they didn't take his wallet or watch... same with epstein, killed by clinton mafia. bill clinton flew on lolita express more than two dozen times. epstein had blackmail material on all of these wealthy pedophiles.

you'll see their foreign policies are fairly identical

I'm not so sure man, I think Trump was an outlier in some ways. Biden is in my view more likely to start a war in Iran/Venezuela and would never have started the trade war with China. I have no real evidence of this, but I assume the donors of either party weren't happy with Trump's foreign policy: The trade war goes against the neoliberal doctrine of letting capital act globally with as little inference as possible and with regards to actual military wars, let's remember the other republican nominees in 2016 promised to bomb Iran within weeks of their inauguration. Capital must be really horny for some bombs being dropped.

(not really disagreeing with you here) While Biden might be marginally better than Trump with regards to climate change in that he may not actively worsen the situation and obstruct initiatives to do something about it, his commitment to solving climate change might as well be non-existing, Paris doesn't go remotely far enough and nobody upholds the agreements anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM0uZ9mfOUI

Biden is in my view more likely to start a war in Iran

why do you think that? Trump has acted in ways that escalated the situation in ways that specifically go against Obama's legacy (one of the main things Biden would like to defend) and the general thinking of for example most European leadership (another thing Biden would like to return to the "old stability").

That's a good argument, I didn't factor in that Biden was Obama's VP and therefore probably wants to defend his/Obama's legacy, i.e. the Iran deal. My statement was not a very rational belief, I mostly thought a large-scale war was overdue (not very rational either, apart from the fact that the US probably wants to retain hegemony in the region). But perhaps he's just gonna continue Obama's policy of drone striking.

I thought Trump would do a large-scale war too and he hasn't so far...

edit: This might be of interest: https://inthesetimes.com/article/joe-biden-de...y-military

Imo Putin preferred Trump because they both saw an opportunity of equal benefit where Trump could become president and in return he would be soft on Russia. If Trump colluded with Russia I don't know how the Dems expected to uncover it when after years of investigation they still had nothing. I think it was more about delegitimizing his presidency. Even in a surveillance state like the US your not going to uncover every secret interaction between people. I watched an interesting video somewhere where it explained that there are so many ways for world leaders to collude with foreign leaders without directly interacting such as through public posturing that it's basically a pointless mission. The Dems are just mad because they are basically the elites and Trump is not someone they can control and I have no doubt that their leaders in past administrations have colluded with foreign countries as well but Trump was an outlier in that he is probably the first president in history to have received a major influence in the election through state sponsored bot farms.

good on them for not re-electing mr. nazbol dictator wannabe, but an ultra-fascist country like america won't become any less fascist just because they chose the lesser of two fascists. at the end of the day fascism is still fascism, and it still thrives throughout america for the same reason; no proportional representation and no running on actual issues.

it's up to europe to become a new economic and military power, so that they can resist america's fascist influence on the continent, and eventually coordinate sanctions against them. it's up to canada to stop being so closed off and show pity to their neighbors by opening up immigration to them. and it's up to the global business community to lose confidence in america's fascist regime, to lose confidence in their currency, and ignore the country altogether for eu, norway, switzerland, canada, japan, south korea, taiwan, australia, new zealand, and yes even united kingdom. america's government and overall society is extremely unstable and fascist. it's irresponsible to be contributing to their economy and tax revenue, giving them soft power by growing their entertainment industry, and by raising children there. it's wrong, it's collaboration and it has to stop.

Stumbled across this interview with Victor Davis Hanson, really interesting perspective of recent events. Thought i'd share if you have some time to kill.

Lovely watching Europeans argue about American politics when their own countries are falling to pieces.

A healthy dose of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias is all we need tbh.

Peasants.

True, but whatever happens in America will have a ripple effect in every other country, especially our own country of the U.K where we have close relations to them.

Also

It will, no doubt, however, there's no point crying about it.

“Don’t waste time on things you can’t change!” — Dan Peña

Forgot to say hope u doing well stphn.

Always my man. Finally fixed my shoulder after gruelling 18 months of repetitive training. Guess lockdown was good in that respect.

Hope you're keeping out of trouble and smashing birds.

Shoulder's a bit sore myself, what all did you do to fix it?

That's awesome man glad to hear.

Just resistance band training 3x a week, the most boring shit ever, but it worked.

Yeah. But are they really ripple effects, or are they self-fulfilling prophecies caused by everyone paying so much attention to the US?

As much as I dislike most of what sTPHN says, he's not wrong about this particular thing. People in shit countries, and elsewhere, are arguing about bullshit that is completely irrelevant to them.

Guy is absolutely right. Paying so much attention to other people's shit, people who care not about you, is profoundly dumb. I swear the vast majority of humans around me seem to be living in a virtual world that is much better than what we actually have.

Nah, America is so big that whatever happens there will have an effect here, not just in the United Kingdom but all over the world, same with China as well.

It's like when people limit themselves from doing what they really want in life because of fear of judgement.

Hard thing to grasp is that not many people give as much of a fuck about what you're doing, so why let them stop you? People have their own issues to deal with.

Most people would be happier if they learnt to not give any fucks and crack on with their lives.

Get over yourself apartheid boy

Woah what an insult, oh my god. What am I gonna do?

Funny how you think mentioning something your brain can't seem to comprehend, would come across as insulting to me lol.

Anywhore, I'll let the 3rd world Euro's complain about how they're being oppressed because 'Murica doing 'Murica things.

How's about taking control of your own shortcomings and realise you are in a shitty situation through no fault, other than your own?

Then again, owning your faults and failures hurt, so you need to latch on to others who feel the same cause we all know that misery loves company.

Enjoy that fixed mindset, instead of a growth mindset.

You know jack shit about me personaly, so how would you know about my, or anyone eleses shortcomings, or ways of dealing with them? I bet the blacks in ZA also brought misery on themseves alone.

Bet you parents sponsored your move to EU so you can get away from all those nasty blacks. Did you bring your slave maid with you when you came over? Suck a big fat dick, inbred settler.

I am extremely passionate about interracial injustice because it allows me to virtue-signal my lack of racism.

Carring about anything besides yourself apparently makes you a moron, cry baby or virtue-signaler (whatever the fuck that means ayway).... very South Park of you

Build for BBC.

So you're allowed to assume on my behalf, however, if someone criticises you, you get emotional.

The nice response haha...

My parents didn't sponsor shit actually, I sold all my stuff and actually did the work, unlike most Europeans and Brits who just want hand-outs because again, they can't handle their own shit.

You should look up emotional intelligence, cause sir, you're lacking it.

"I bet the blacks in ZA also brought misery on themselves alone."

Not really, it was the regime of the Afrikaaner and BOER movement that caused all the chaos, then again, you have no knowledge on the subject, only something you've probably seen written on a poorly updated wiki page.

Also, I'd rather have you suck my dick, seems that you're projecting your sexual insecurity on me as well. Mad!

You ok hun?

Its not great to assume, but when someone opens with that bullshit "pull yourself by your bootstraps" take, like you did, its generaly safe to assume hes a privileged asshole. Thats what privileged assholes say.

Somehow, according to you, over 500mil people all living in the same region, are all victims of their ignorance and victim complex. The only think keeping them from great success is their loser mentality and if only they could be more like you they would win in life.

You rarely hear anything simmilar from anyone who had to deal with any hardship.

Btw in no way am I in a shitty situation in life. I have pretty much everything i want, but that has a lot to do with a specific location i was born. I could have been born 50km north, and id have to move to get a job, probably wouldnt go to university, id spend my whole salary on rent and food, and id be stuck in that stupid cycle for most of my life, just like many people i know are.

Maybe i should go around telling everyone they are losers and that they should be more like me

"Btw in no way am I in a shitty situation in life. I have pretty much everything i want, but that has a lot to do with a specific location i was born. I could have been born 50km north, and id have to move to get a job, probably wouldnt go to university, id spend my whole salary on rent and food, and id be stuck in that stupid cycle for most of my life, just like many people i know are.
"

I don't believe that, no matter how tough, if you want something bad enough, you'll find a way to get it.

Work 3 jobs if you have to, but, being born into poverty isn't your fault, dying in poverty is.

I'm in agreement with stphn, capitalism gives you the opportunity to make something of yourself.

Life gives you the opportunity. Capitalism just makes it unreasonably hard for most and easy/free for others born in the right cirumstance.

People will always have different starting points and different chances to succeed. No economic system can change that.

Of course a moderate economic system can change that. Why would you think it cannot be changed? Brainwashed already.
Moderate capitalism or whatever you want to call it. look at the northern european countries, Denmark, Norway, all it takes are some reasonable politicians voted into office that are iterested in everyones wellbeing, not only their own bank account

LMAO

gg wp no re

>Of course a moderate economic system can change that

How?

What a weird question to ask. People everywhere are getting robbed by corrupt politicians and their super rich owners from the shadows and you cant imagine it ever being different. Straight up deluded.

reduce crazy spending on military, tax the rich properly and continuously fix the loopholes. stop grand scale tax embezzlement, stop war on drugs. use the money to eradicate poverty, for health care and unconditional basic income

Nobody believes your wrong opinion

actually that sentence perfectly sums up the intelligence level I gauged you on :)

And how would you do that without any intelligence? How does that feel to be as dump as you are?

obvious grammar nazi bait, or just dump? no seriously, tell me you are hardcore trolling. else I have to correct my gauge down even more

The radical lack of ability to look around the world where such solutions exist, let alone imagine something different is sometimes hard to grasp.

Just trolling ;) Apart from that are those kind of solutions well known to the people in charge and they will always consider them. Only idiots like Trump will not.

Why bother, if he could understand you he'd know what capitalism means.

try to discuss instead of hiding

"capitalism gives you the opportunity to make something of yourself."

wow... I think that's the single most blue-pilled thing I've ever heard.

the american dream... cause you gotta be asleep, to believe it.

I'm not American and it's true.

You get paid to your skill level, that's why it works. Obviously there are loopholes, but by and large, the person who's a doctor and went through a decade of med school should be paid more than a guy who never did any sort of advanced training and flips burgers at McDonalds.

Want to earn more money? Go back to school, do a trade, do something.

that's effort - of course I'm not against it being rewarded. however, you were talking about opportunity before...
how many tens of thousands of dollars required for tuition? oh, you're born into poor circumstances, guess no high level education for you... equal opportunity my asscheeks.

"how many tens of thousands of dollars required for tuition? "

That's what student loans are for.

"oh, you're born into poor circumstances, guess no high level education for you... equal opportunity my asscheeks. "

Also, yeah that was most definitely the case 100 years ago or perhaps even a mere 50 years ago, but it is definitely not the case now, especially with special grants for low-income households and the opportunity that's out there there's simply no one to blame but yourself.

I'm not saying you, but it's always easier finding excuses as to why you can't do something or didn't do something.

I'm not a huge fan of your disposition of "privilege"

You'll always find someone who had it easier, but you don't get what you deserve in life, you get what you work for.

Also why are you personally picking on Stphn for?

rofl

That's exactly what he sound like, indeed. He sounds lile he comes from a rich family that benefited directly and greatly from slavery and abuse of the black population, and so he's now desperately virtue signaling and hating on fellow south africans, exactly like Charlize Theron and Elon Musk

The complete opposite actually, and not once have I hated on anything South African, cute how you're trying to sound all justified and self-righteous.

It's just mad that most people can't grasp a simple concept of if they want it, they can have it, regardless of circumstance. (Yeah it plays a part but there's no excuse) If you harp on about excuses, you're the one at fault, everyone has been dealt shitty cards in some way or not in life.

Also lol virtue signalling, I don't even need to justify anything, to be honest, however, I was homeless at one point, sleeping on the streets of Holland and I somehow turned my situation around. Was it cause I was white? privileged or whatever other bullshit narratives the weak-minded individuals want to spew on people wanting to do something better in their lives? Probably, or maybe grit and determination to not need anyone?

You either keep making excuses or you pull up your sleeves and get to work. If you're not willing to make sacrifices, you might as well die.

Na, that's what people who have actually had to dig themselves out of the trenches say. Too bad you have to paint some stupid narrative to align itself with your ego.

Privileged assholes don't bother with wanting to help others because they don't need to, they can live off of their parent's trust funds and all that other bullshit.

"Somehow, according to you, over 500mil people all living in the same region, are all victims of their ignorance and victim complex. The only think keeping them from great success is their loser mentality and if only they could be more like you they would win in life."

According to me? You don't seem to understand the fundamentals of how society and communities at a whole have been manipulated and brainwashed (Shit, look at Korea as an example)

You rarely hear anything similar from anyone who had to deal with any hardship.

Ever read these things called books? Cause by the sounds of it, you clearly haven't.

Btw in no way am I in a shitty situation in life. I have pretty much everything i want, but that has a lot to do with a specific location i was born. I could have been born 50km north, and id have to move to get a job, probably wouldnt go to university, id spend my whole salary on rent and food, and id be stuck in that stupid cycle for most of my life, just like many people i know are.

Congratulations, you're part of the 1% who are happy with their station in life. However cycles are made to be broken, I mean if you want people to keep within their victim mentality that's cool. Once they wake up and hit their breaking point, maybe that'll change. However, most people are happy with complacency so that's fine too. They just shouldn't have a voice to complain about their hardships if they're not willing to actually put some work in.

(Prime example: Here in the UK, the government are happy to give people EVERYTHING for free so that they can honestly, just sit on their ass and do nothing)

It's a learned system, a path of things that are generational, however, there are the ones who change and end up doing something with their own lives.

So it's a choice either way.

Maybe i should go around telling everyone they are losers and that they should be more like me

Good luck with that, cause clearly you can't comprehend the overarching theme of the dialogue.

Do you think a white person can still live in SA?
Isn't there like a black government in place that calls on white genocide? Something that somehow never gets mentioned in our mainstream media :-)

There most certainly is, a dude I know personally who lives near me is white and originally from S.A and told me exactly that it's terrible.

I've still got family and friends who live there, slowly but surely the whites are getting forced out of the country, just like what happened to the farming industry in Zimbabwe (Formerly known as Rhodesia)

However, now the government of Zim are crying out to have all the white people they kicked out of the country, to come back and help re-establish the country as a farming super-house which it was in the 60s/70s/80s.

They won't come back though.

Each country has its pro's and con's - It's just how you look at it and deal with it at a micro and macro level.

Are you telling me the whole Zimbabwe thing wasn't a conspiracy by exploitative bunch of businessmen designed to discredit the locals who dared to take their future into their own hands?

No, I am not being sarcastic.

Says the white african in britain who is about to eat chlorinated chicken.

Trying to find a point to this reply and also, I don't eat chicken. The joke is on you wanna be smarty-pants.

xd

Also, it's mad how people who have never actually travelled out from their own towns, let alone countries have the biggest mouths to try and criticize the ones who have done it. Madness I tell you.

here's a dinosaur

On repeat whilst hitting the heavy bag for hours.

Go out get some boy

Sixhit gonna give it to ya.

somehow didnt notice that sound track, gotta say prolly the greatest soundtrack of all time ...same calibre as metallica in metal imho.

instrumental metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEyGp9oGKc
atmospheric:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQTZp1vSUkY

Parallels to rome:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mP7vU88NhxrO/

wtf I thought esr was dead

This is what a president should sound like. I know nothing about Biden but i can differentiate stupid talkers and intelligent doers. It is a riddle to me how somebody can listen to Trump and think, oh i like this man, he is smart. Hilarious.

It is a riddle to me how somebody can listen to Biden and think, oh I like this man, he is coherent.

Just say no to pedo Joe.

yo check out these 2 bad bois

Pedo lover, lmao.

Bullshit believer. But you are the kind of guy who does not care. Have you studied? I guess not. Knowledge, that is a foreign concept for you

pretty cool we arent leaving the whitehouse lol.
god emperor.

you are.

were you hurting the last 4 years?

Will you be hurting the rest of your live?

would that change the cheeto leaving the whitehouse?

its ok, its over, he cant hurt you anymore. youre a brave boy!

if I wanted to play this sort of game I'd ask why you're replying with these sorts of questions to a brief comment about the fact that DT will have to leave the whitehouse. So if you're inclined to play that game, maybe reflect on that? And leave me out of it.

GO AND MAKE HIM LEAVE!

is this how you gather courage? you keep repeating to yourself he will leave, he will leave, he will leave?

i'm only repeating it to point to the bizarre nature of your replies to a brief, very matter of fact post. Might as well be reading tea leaves

This website is a place full of butthurt old farts who would even team up with complete idiots instead of working on theirselves. Lazy dump aggressive people whose only skill is too bully other people. Because that’s what they a good at, keeping others small so that they won’t be outpaced. And left behind. I am really starting to wonder what these guys are doing on a Quake website. A game which demands constant improvement in a most harsh environment. These guys feel like fucking losers to me. They should be removed. So fucking uncool and a disgrace to Quake.

calm down Angela

I have friends in Kosovo

i know people who are close friends with kosovo hitler

Are you hurt by Kosovo hitler? Is it bad?

so what youre telling me is the hurt still wont go away?

You are projecting again

Pretty good update here of what is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQCdCSDWQQ&t=58m20s

What has been clear for a long time now is there a terrible smell in the west.

It smells like, a black life only seems to matter when its taken by a white person or a cop.

It smells like you can't comment on many news sites because they don't want the top comments to be counter.

It smells like when you vote for Brexit, there is a constant force trying to delay, stifle, over turn.

It smells like for 4 years we've heard what a demon trump is, but few people can actually justify their hatred with actual facts, its like the same logic that people use when they call you "racist" for something which isn't. Its about shutting you down, without the need, truth or discussion to do so.

it smells like, Covid19 is one big perfectly timed biological weapon which reads like something from a first draft resident evil movie before someone beefed it up with flesh eating zombies.

It smells like you were never asked to be invaded by the world world while people in your own country are sleeping on the streets, yet anyone who can break into the country is rewarded.

it smells like, you can be any gender you want, regardless of science.

It smells like every fooking TV advert have some kinda racial mixed race thing on there, which is actual racism.

It smells like, you're told hordes of 3rd world people without a pot to piss entering your land is a good thing.

Basically, it smells like something is trying to turn the West on its head and people need to realize the people doing this have infinite money, and influence and if all their going to do is sit back, shut up and believe the shit the compromised media/education, their local councils tell them then their on the wrong side of history.

it smells like joe biden being a puppet nobody who was hidden in a basement until 2 weeks before the election because every time he talks you can smell the stench of dementia and it smells like going to bed thinking trump has won, waking up and seeing as massive swing in votes under ULTRA DODGY area.

It smells like the media not reporting on it, talking about unity, when for 4 years they've been calling everyone who does not follow the narrative a racist, nazi.

While they have been going out looting, rioting and attacking people constantly. ripping down statues, trying to change hisotry.

It smells like BS.

it smells like, Covid19 is one big perfectly timed biological weapon which reads like something from a first draft resident evil movie before someone beefed it up with flesh eating zombies.

I mean, probably everyone has had that thought at some point right? How far did you follow it?

Who could do that with the safe knowledge of "it won't affect MY family or circle of friends or nice people I know"? You had to have a vaccine already. So more then a handful of people would be involved. A conspiracy of that proportion (mass murder) is pretty crazy. Not unthinkable, but really crazy. Further then 9/11 crazy.

Why would it be released in China? In the exact city where they study these exact viruses in a virology research institute? Ok this one is actually a perfect cover, if the virus was developed outside and then brought in...

What about the properties of such a virus? The chance of it to mutate would be high, becoming deadlier and killing much more people then initially intended, it would be an uncalculable risk. Unless you know exactly what you are doing and can design it perfectly to your needs. But then virus researchers might find evidence of that. Wait, didn't some researcher actually state he had proof of the virus engineered by humans?

Last not least, cui bono? The absurd rich release it to become even richer? No...
More likely, to stop overpopulation. But in the end, greed is the strongest motivator, you don't kill your own species just for 'higher motives'. The motivator for war and murder has always been money and power.

Who could do that with the safe knowledge of "it won't affect MY family or circle of friends or nice people I know"?

It's 2020 dude, it's not TURBO CHINESE VIRUS THAT'LL KILL US ALL.
Jeez.

??
Maybe I don't understand correct? I was talking about the before letting a virus loose.

But ok, in hindsight we know better. You know the rough data?
Some percentage of covid infected get serious condition, need intensive care and artificial breathing...in case there is no artifical breathing available, there is a high chance of death. With rising numbers, another 10% that get better keep organ impairment, lungs, nervous system, kidneys.

That's not something to gamble with, even for psychopaths, they still care for their closest ones.

there was some HIV researcher who received noble prize telling this virus contains HIV sequences and is probably constructed artificially, in the first days of the virus you could also find information about virus research labs in china ... really I am tired of it, and I can't bother to search all over the net to find all the information right now, I have done that too often now ... I just want to spend my energy on different things (like posting on ESR ;-)) ... anyway I have always believed for a long time it will be a an artificially created virus used as bio weapon that will kill humanity or a great deal of it ... unlike that proclaimed nuclear war ... because to me it seems easier to create one virus and its harder to protect against it ... unlike nuclear warheads which can still be shot down somehow ... it may not be this virus, but there will probably be another one, it will become too easy to create these viruses at some point ... isnt it cool in the 80s people feared the annihilation of the earth by nuclear warheads ... now people dont seem to care at all ... but now technology is so advanced and modularized you can have an IQ of 70 and just buy the modules, assemble them and you get your killer weapon ... and all the states like china/india/russia/usa/pakistan have access to it ... what a great time to be alive :-) ... tbh. I would give such kind of powerful weapons only to the EU, they are the only ones to handle that in a human way, in the aforementioned states the morals are so low its basically only a matter of time until something very terrible happens

I'd say it's pretty weak for artificially created virus made to depopulate our planet.
Maybe it turns people into homosexuals or makes them or their offspring infertile. That would be peak Bill Gates.
So far it seems like we cut flu cases in half and got it back as corona meme.
The best part is paying doctors to sit at home and "heal" people through the phone <3
Now people don't get diagnosed and die.
Next year will be year of cancer.
All heil Great Reset.

You know what it really smells like? It smells like you are an old fart who has already big trouble dealing with a world that is changing. Now you start to understand what your grand parents went through when you saw them as a kid. You are slowly but steadily taking their place. Mourning at everything new. Even an 80 year old Biden is younger than you. You are old steel and deal with it, the changing world will squeeze you to infinity until nobody can even remember you. Your tears will dry and turn to sand which a wind will spread into a desert. You will be forgotten and the world will have changed. 3rd world country people will live on the very same spot as you do now, growing their kids. Being relieved that racists like you disappeared from British soil. Poor old fart. Have my words of compassion. Maybe we can build up an Altersheim for physically young but inside old people, already awaiting their death, sitting on a wheelchair next to a crowded street and mourning about everything that passes by. Feeling left over. Treated unfairly by the world. How does it feel when even 3rd world country people defeat you in your own country? You must be a man full of fear and low of skill.

We beat you in the war.
And we beat you in the EU elections.

We're onto you and it will become as exposed as the German car industry was, full of shit and fake emissions.

Importing terrorists and rapists against the will of the indigenous and wrapping it up as some kind of superior evolution of western civilization isn't anything to be proud of unless you're brought up in a country who carries a deep shame about its past and wants to over compensate and cleanse that stigma.

Having fake news outlets who write one sided, biased lies and disable valid discourse isn't anything to be proud of.

Having a problem with people who have a problem with that doesn't make you anything superior or more advanced.

It just shows how little you have left to preserve :)

Let me explain something to you. Your country has needs for immigrants. I know that is totally new for you right now. But it is becoming better. Just read on. After Brexit, there will be less 1st world immigrants. Now try to think a little for yourself. If the need for immigrants stays the same after Brexit and there will be less 1st world immigrants, which immigrants other than those from the 1st world will fill this gap? Now have a little laugh together with me. I am with you.

A dumb nig that can't even communicate and doesn't want to work is not NEEDED.
thxbai

You just don’t understand reality. It is too complex for you

there is no need for immigration.
you foster an environment for the citizens to have families.
immigrants destabilize nations.

immigrants make our countries stronger...
but not their own.

why are you even wasting brain power on Jamerio? He's literally one of the worst posters on this site. That's quite an achievement given how many dumb fucks we've seen over the years.

The next idiot you can kiss good bye is the idiot Boris Johnson. Bye bye

Doesn't matter.

We can do this diplomatically, or we can beat you like we did in the war.

You speak our language for a reason. Don't ever forget that :)

You don’t speak nothing. And you would not understand anything about anything so don’t act like if you could explain anything to anybody. And you don’t speak my language while i speak yours.

My chair in the corner of the bedroom is ready . My butthole is also ready for when it's my turn to get pegged by my wife after Somali shipbreak refugees run a train on her while I sit and observe willingly.

Then I go to the local supermarket which is 50 meters away passing by at least 100 5g network towers and see the occasional surveillance drone that's on the lookout for people being in groups over 3 or for people wearing no masks in public. I nearly got driven over by a self driving car, holy smokes that was close!

When I arrive at the store I have to run my hand through some scanner which automatically disinfects and lotions my hands and scans for the implanted covid vaccine chip. Two days ago I saw somebody get deported because he refused to accept denied entrance without one. I can't stop to think to myself how delusional and tinfoil-hatty these dumbos are that don't take the vaccine and put millions of people at risk. Selfish ignorant gullible pricks, gosh-gee!

I leave the store with the max allowed amount of groceries because supply is running really low which is fine because I live a mostly sedentary lifestyle anyway and I don't have kids neither a family, that stuff is so outdated. I can't believe people take children anymore, they are selfish, the world is already too overpopulated and having a family with traditional roles goes against what I scientifically believe in.

On my road back home I saw a digital advert promoting 'bi-love' and '2nd love'. This makes me slightly curious, taking my wifes strap-on and all. I mean surely she wouldn't mind me having sex with the same gender or shopping for a nice escapade if I'm having to sit through the spectacle of her being taken by that group of Somali's. I mean I'm not jealous. If anything those poor guys that had to flee the war-torn area which we as white species are the cause of really deserve to live out their lusts. I can't really please my wife anyways since the xenoestrogen pollution in the water and food and soy-infused diet gives me issues staying hard during the deed. Or is it the government legal marijuana I'm smoking that makes me have dysfunction? I don't know, last time I was at the doctors office and they told me my testosterone levels were adequate. When I looked it up later on the web it said my testosterone level was 1/15th of a male my age 30 years ago.

I also saw a former chapel being transformed to an abortion clinic. I can't believe that people used to think theres a sky daddy observing and reigning from the sky. I mean those Somalis believe in a similar thing they call Allah but cmon lol we had enlightenment revolution in 18th century and religion is really sexist wtf it goes against science. I can't believe it took almost 300 years to get religion finally banned in public. Now the religious people that still don't want to conform finally know how it was like to be gay in the past. That serves them well.

When I arrive home my wife shouts at me for taking so long to return and that it's almost past dinner time. Ofcourse I have to cook and clean as my wife is the bread winner of the family and she gave me the cold shoulder as I told her about the massive lines at the supermarket. She didn't really care that I was nearly run over by that car either. But that's fine. After dinner time we will watch Lolita on netflix which is about some 30 y/o trans guy dating with a 12 year old. When this show came out the religious nutties went rampant for a while but cmon, consent is consent lol if a 12 year old feels ready then it's ready right.

Before going to bed I check my social credit status on Google socials and saw I gained +10 credits for abiding all the rules that day and that there will be no consequences in my minimum income amount by the end of the day. I can sleep well knowing this, I'll sleep better if my wife decides to bring out the 8" BBC dildo this time though. One can only wish.



#ProudEuropean

Let us check back on your dystopian outlook 10 years later. I promise to you, you will have moved on to new and even better dystopian fiction which will let you vote even more unethical. While nothing of what you believed 10 years ago came to be. But you don’t care, or more like are not capable to care, because you can’t remember what you once thought and thus you cannot make any comparison to what has really happened. And maybe find a flaw in your theories. Thus you will still believe people who claim the will save you from your dystopian fiction. While filling their own pockets on the back of your easy to exploit angsts. Other than that really nicely written text. You should be a writer if you are not already.

The sky rages, as one of the newest generation of steelbird makes its way over the city silhouette, like a hovering, mezmerizing nightmare, in a crimson sea of burning remains. I raise my hand in reflex, "HAIL TRUMPBOT, HAIL THE 4TH REICH!!" I screech at the top of my lungs, eagerly scanning the streets for spydrones that might record my good deed to headquarters. There is one to the left of me, his red laser points at my raised hand to read out my SS status. I let out a satisfied grunt, with a wide grimace of a smile, licking my thick lips, at the same time gesturing my guard dogbot to stay close, as I continue the way to the concentration camps - my beloved workplace.

All kinds of EVIL SCUM are held there, I torture them daily with no regrets, ney, with hidden pleasure. I cannot explain any better, since the 45th RULE was put in place forbidding little adults, as the children are called nowadays, to learn about the VERBOTEN things formerly called emotions. All I know, I have to punish them, they are UNTERMENSCHEN the likes of smoking that disgusting nagger plant of the old days. 'Reefer madness' goes through my head for a fraction of a second, but I instantly supress it so not to trigger the thought control unit implanted in my bold backside of what was formerly my head.

The new aquired brandings FUHRER STAFFEL IV still itch on my lower arm. The sulfur and smog burns especially strong today, but I like it, it reminds my of our better future. I am alb, I'm in my own paradise!

Look at this bastards actions and tell me in my face that you are a sympathizer:

Why is he a bastard, cause he's bald?

You have to watch the video, then we can talk again

Ahh, you mean just slandering the president, yeah that's not nice, but calling him a bastard is a tad too hateful for me.

How can you support someone who is destroying nature just for his own gain? I know you did not watch the video but if you had you would have got to know that he is selling oil rights in alaska destroying a nature reserve. In a world where climate change is already putting way too much pressure on nature. I don’t know man if you don’t like animals, trees, wildlife, it can’t be helped and it is sad.

Do you know that Trump has over a billion dept? Do you know that lawsuits await
Him right after he left the white house? I don’t understand how someone can support somebody who is destroying nature and the environment for the people just to make money for his own sake. Really buffled

You know if you think your life is a fail up until now it won’t get any better if you team up with somebody who just spits on everything that is worth. If you want to change your feeling about yourself you to go out and achieve something with your own hands. It won’t get any better laughing at people who don’t feel like you

why would anyone take advice from literal nazis?
do we need to come bomb you again?

This guy beat trump and only after the dodgy posts counts started filling in, in DEM controlled states.

Sure.

Wonder how many months before he gets taken over by the hard left IF< he gets the presidency.

Dodgy in your dreams and nowhere else

@everyone go play some Quake Live, retards