You are probably shadowbanned. Then every vote is stuffed with a counter-vote. I just read up on this, initially it was invented to 'combat automatic bots'. But as always, tech like this can and will be abused.
Also the "karma" system is pure shit.
It perpetuates reflexive mood-like voting without more deep thought and by introducing a karma necessity for posting, basically streamlines groupthink, 'soft' muting of users that deviate from the groupthink and force self-moderation for the smallest common denominator.... it's a really bad thing in my opinion.
I'm not even sure anymore reddit is a sensible plattform to have a community on, because of the above points...at least the initiators of a new forum can somewhat dictate the rules and disable the karma necessity, I hope 2GD and the gang did that.
Reddit has build an echo chamber machine over there. Diningenuous and disgusting.
I would advise 2GD to move to somewhere else, but it's too late for that and it's so convenient to use such crap.
ESR was and still is way ahead of its time, the reason why I still come here, no bullshit moderation, no censoring, thoughts are free etc.
Can you try to like\dislike threads with 0 likes dislikes? try if you have positive karma, after that reload page and you can see. Do it with + and - vote(reload page) several times.
Edited by wwwAnyBoy at 03:49 CST, 29 November 2020
Again, there is no reddit conspiracy, it's just another reddit feature, called "vote fuzzing". It's so bots cannot tell whether they're shadowbanned or not.
Wait what...there were no actions taken on the subreddit. But why then are his votes reverted?
When I vote on something, at least until now, it stays like that. I can tell because I made a not so popular gamemode suggestion where noone voted, only my upvotes for serious replies.
ok, but "vote fuzzing" only applied somehow to a special threads. where players not satisfied with something. You do it coz you want to put that threads from top to bottom and hide it from players eyes.
This is variation of ban, without ban
So, let's calculate
1. you trying to hide good threads
2. after that you trying to lie to me on ESR, that this is about vote fuzzing.
And you will pay for that. Wait more threads on ESR
It's not a lie, moderators cannot fuck around with the voting at all.
All we can do is remove comments and threads and ban users, that's it. I don't know how I can convince you, but that's literally all the options any mod on a subreddit has. If you google it, you should fine more.
As to your removed comments: you just spammed your stupid picture in a dozen threads without any comment whatsoever, so it got removed (except for one, I think). You even triggered the spam filter that way, it wasn't removed, but didn't get approved; maybe because nobody thought having the same picture in a dozen threads would add to the discussion. Silly idea, I know.
Yes, we filter posts and comments from accounts that are less than 24 hours old and/or have a negative amount of karma (-5 I think?).
It's not ideal for the reasons you mentioned, but it's meant to cut down on spam. Filtered posts and comments appear in our mod queue, where we manually approve them. Affected users should receive a mod message, telling them to contact us if we don't approve their posts within 24 hours.
Again, I'd rather not have such a rule, but something like this is unfortunately necessary on reddit (the same is true for ESR, btw; comments from newish accounts have to manually approved by an admin).
Consider this: someone has controversial, yet intriguing ideas on reddit. The hivemind does not agree, not because of valid arguments, but personal taste and a downvote trigger finger. There are more down then upvotes, he/she is then not allowed to post anymore... his ideas are lost, he will likely quit the subreddit with a feeling of it being an echo chamber of ignorant hillbillies.
This almost exactly happened for me in the MouseReview subreddit. The audience does not discuss there, they simply accept no deviation from their personal choices and preferences. Thus, I don't post any content anymore on there, despite having a vast knowledge of gaming periphals and a view from an engineer of 10 years.
The same goes for any topic really. Karma is synonymous for groupthink. The lower you can set the 'karma post requirement' bar for the subreddit, the better.
I see your point, but it's not like filtered people can't post, it's just that they have to be approved by a moderator. As long as it's not spam or offensive, absolutely everything gets approved, no matter how controversial it might be (through the mod logs, I can see what other mods are doing as well). The only thing one might take issue with is that our bar for what's offensive is higher as compared to 4chan or ESR, but as long as you can make your point without calling someone the n-word, you're fine on the subreddit. (It's the official subreddit, so we try to keep it mostly welcoming, so personal attacks aren't tolerated as well.)
Our karma limit is in the negatives, which is quite low, for reddit standards. And even then, we approve the filtered posts.
Yeah, there's totally no Reddit conspiracy or agenda, no bashing of anything that they don't agree with, no biases, no vote fuckery, absolutely no corrupt admining or corruption going on at all.
My bad, reddit is trash, yes, and I can believe that behind the curtains, weird things are happening. For some we even have proof.
What I meant was that there's no conspiracy in the Diabotical subreddit. anyboy's posts regularly border on unintelligible spam, are generally unhelpful, and break the rules; thus, some of them get removed. For better or worse, that's how reddit is supposed to work.
In his last spree, he posted the same thread 4 or 5 times, one was allowed to stay, the others were removed. Then he posted his pretty picture in random threads, triggering the spam filter. If one doesn't accept that absolutely minimal amount of moderation, reddit isn't for them (which is fine).
reddit bot activity has to be a huge percentage of general user activity. i think there's a large amount of state-sponsored (significantly chinese) political crowd work in general.
interesting that after conde naste bought reddit (and they closed their new platform source) and tencent (chinese company) became a principle investor that ellen pao was hired as ceo. i guess there will still enough real people using reddit back then that her very radical changes got enough pushback for a figurehead puppet (spez) to be hired.
i think a key difference between the majority of 4chan users vs. the majority of reddit users, and this can be extrapolated to their general capacity for hypothetical reasoning, is that the 4chan users would find it credible to suspect chinese state activity in engineering a socially disastrous reddit culture via bots & other forms of crowd work, and would be interested in discussing & analyzing that (with a small percentage being nutcases who would believe it fervently and say so emphatically), whereas the reddit users would in general consider it an inappropriate topic due to undertones of racism or some other socially inhibiting factor.
i prefer 4chan. it's way less anxiety-inducing to be able to piss into an ocean than it is to be in the ocean and realize you have to piss, but if anybody finds out they're going to call you a piss bigot until you lose your job.