dishonest failures will blame whatever they can. there are solutions to denial of service attacks. don't broadcast ip addresses, set up good firewall rules, use good services, etc. i remember checking one of the project velocity map server hosts and it was a hostgator-tier vps provider.

the truth is that some hobbyist graphics designers got an itch to resurrect a game, put a bunch of time into something they could easily control (making ugly graphics and ugly map makeovers), and when confronted with some technical difficulty they gave up, because they realized the amount of work wasn't worth the effort.

He specifically says: they were able to secure their tournament servers, but someone was attacking everything else (servers unrelated to the project, servers people were playing pubs/practicing), to make everyone's games miserable.

he said it, so it's true. :^)

Well it's still technically a strawman - he says the league defended itself from the attacks and shutting down is due to Quake live being bad (don't worry, I don't get it either!)

I'd say the actual reason is mentioned later in the post - he wanted to create an esports organization and get deep pocketed sponsors, which failed. He obviously has better things to spend money on if this won't bring in profit. Now he's coming up with excuses for shutting it down so quickly :)

Who can blame the guy though? In the past we've seen organizations like FaceIt who treated Quake as a test run to build their platforms and when it was ready for the wider audience, switched to profitable games. He's nowhere near this level of sophistication or investment, it couldn't last ;)

imo it's all bullshit delusional post-failure justification and excuse-making. this guy blames others for attacking servers, and blames the game for being poorly designed (even though dedicated servers have been the same for decades, and faceit and others use them fine), and then pretends to be some kind of martyr/hero for slinking away with no fanfare after announcing $10,000 worth of investments to drive his professional studio and trolling rapha into practicing quake live for over a month.

i can blame the guy for being exactly what he is: an inept grifter. the difference between him and roychez is that faceit WAS quake live for years. it held the game up, raised the player base and professional skill levels, and generally improved the experience for players and spectators. faceit moved on from a dead game to a thriving game, keeping the same spirit and motivation, and showing that game the same care.

this guy latched on to a dead game like a leech, then let a demon in his heart announce all his desires as reality, fulfilled nothing of what he promised, and in the end blamed everything other than himself. this grifter even repackaged decades-old maps with his branding on them, as if he's entitled to just steal others' work and stamp his name on it. not only did he repackage their works under his name, but he also incompetently spoiled the geometry in the maps, demonstrating a lack of love for the game and a lack of desire to do well.

project velocity was an opportunist thinking he could make the game about his brand, rather than making his brand about faciliating the game. faceit facilitated the game.

why were the DoS attacks even happening? why would someone bother doing so for a dead league for a dead scene in a dead game? to make sure it stays dead?

from what i saw, it was specifically targeted at servers rapha was on when he was streaming. depending on your sense of humor, you may or may not have thought it was pretty funny watching 300 people crying about 'ddosers' and 'losers with nothing better to do' and talking about how quake champions is has such better servers for over a month.

i mean, 'why' is such a pointless question in these cases. it's easy to come up with a reae too dumb, lazy, or unimaginative to keep them from doing it.son. some people like to start fires, some people like to watch the world burn, and others aren't equipped to stop it.

I get the irony of "losers with nothing better to do", made me chuckle :)

Still, our niche hobby doesn't cause any inconvenience to anyone else.

This guy, on the other hand, is actively hurting others (even if it's mostly butthurt), so "why" is a valid question. Maybe he's a psychopath, but maybe he has a manifesto somewhere on pastebin, we need to look into it! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHhm6JJF4j8&t=2055s

heres ins and av3k discussing the alleged ddos'er. it seems like theres a long history of it. thats the extent of my knowledge on it.

the truth is that some hobbyist graphics designers got an itch to resurrect a game, put a bunch of time into something they could easily control (making ugly graphics and ugly map makeovers), and when confronted with some technical difficulty they gave up, because they realized the amount of work wasn't worth the effort.

The same thing happened with esr last year.

no, it didn't. last year i put more work into a dead site in 5 months than most professional web developers put into commercial sites in a year. it was good work. it was so good that i was able to revert the site with a single branch switch on production, and the only thing i had to fix was 4 lines of code that referenced some sql columns that were changed from integer to varchar to support ipv6 records.

branch: dev
commits: 670
files changed: 578
18,490 additions
39,464 deletions
1 contributor
first commit: june 27
last commit: november 3

https://web.archive.org/web/20231107122526/ht...id=2969774

a running changelog of the many fixes, improvements, etc. the materialized path work was something i'm particularly proud of. there are numerous references to performance and efficiency increases that had noticeable impacts to the site.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231108004250/ht...id=2969678

here's the thread where i was tracking my process eliminating bots and other malicious sources of traffic from the site. i literally did the opposite of project velocity, and put at least 100 hours into researching and understanding bot traffic, firewalls, analytical traffic management, and more. i stayed up for more than 24 hours multiple times just working on things like this. i tail -f'd nginx access logs and watched them in real time to try to understand how site traffic was being shaped by bots.

those two threads don't record any of the work i did after november 7. there was much more following that.

in addition to all of the love and labor that was put into the site development, i spent tens of hours researching and writing news and events. the front page was full of news, events were scheduled when events occurred, and more. i followed multiple discord servers to track community activity. i watched entire tournaments for games i don't give a single shit about. i created no text formatting bbcode to support laying out and presenting text and images at different viewport widths, so that users on phones could actually see the images. when users complained that major scheduled events didn't show in the frontpage news, i updated the code to make that happen, even though i felt like having the dedicated sidebox was enough.

i also didn't end esreality because of threats or attacks. i continued to host it until i found somebody to preserve it, and i continue to pay for email services so that people can register accounts. i would have continued to host it if demiurge had declined. esreality is still up and running, and if demiurge needed something for it that i could help him with, i would help him, because he's a friend.

i ended my company, because esreality is a dead end site that doesn't have any business potential, and i reverted my changes, because they were done by my company and they were incomplete. leaving incomplete work on a site like this is just not something i feel comfortable doing. if my changes are incomplete and something breaks, then it's my fault, and it's my responsibility to fix. it's not fair for me to leave that behind and expect others to clean up after me, and it's not a burden of responsibility i want for years to come. the site is as it was before, the way many people claimed to want it, and even though i wasn't comfortable leaving my changes in production, i still left my dev branch, because demiurge asked me to.

eat shit.

lol

you can't refute anything i said. you're too stupid to understand it.

would somebody delete this, since the guy i was responding to deleted his comment before this was approved?

In all fairness this does seem out of place now that the original post was removed by the author. A nuke should suffice for now.

imo it's all bullshit delusional post-failure justification and excuse-making.

i understand your reddit-drenched attempt at sardonic irony, but it's irrelevant. the work i did on esr was good, and when i decided to be done with it i made sure it remained up in a state that wasn't full of messy refactoring and rework. you could very easily be not posting your snide faggotry on esreality right now.

your work was shit and no one gives a fuck about images on mobile, tetris tournaments, or your completely retarded esr logo update.

my work was good, some people gave a fuck about images on mobile and tetris tournaments, and my completely retarded esr logo update was necessary to improve layout behavior for narrow viewport widths. i actually tried to do it with the existing logo, but there were no source files with layers or typefaces. i wasn't satisfied with the typeface on the new logo, but it was generally fine and did its job of letting me improve layout.

those are really minor changes (tetris tournament content has nothing to do with development anyway) compared to the massive improvements made to the code base, site performance, bot behavior, new features, external api integrations, bug fixes, etc.

you don't know what you're talking about.

why are you mad though?

how is it dishonet. they were fked over by people like you wanting to ddos a dead game.

>asks how it's dishonest
>says dishonest thing
:thinking:

Always felt like a scam tbh

They could have moved the project over to CPMA and Quake 4, and done both VQ3\CPMA tournaments rather than trying to mesh this over QL. Which I would have been okay with, it would have been nice to play duel on a real Quake experience with better netcode.

Nothing of value was lost.

sadge, but interesting to see how much news/impact this got without having too much credibility, at least judging from what I read here