i don't think the warsow team would want this as a news post on esr. seems like a little beta test to hold people over until they have a real public release to show people.

you're right this isn't doing justice to the mod yet

It's no mod, and yes I did realise it thats why I posted that it didn't feel really solid yet, and that you shouldn't be judging it from this alpha. Which are both lies tbh because it does feel quite solid, and by playing this you'll realise how fking cool this game is gonna be... ;p

It's a mod. Don't be a clueless fanboy.

orly?

ja verily

I'm no clueless fanboy :D

And no, warsow doesnt run on Q2, Q3 or any other Q, not on any game for that matter, so it's no mod.

But thanks for replying on an ancient ancient post :p

np, someone else brought this to the first page, I just wanted to put someone in their place.

By the way, last I checked, QFUSION was a modified (read: MODified) version of the Q2 engine. Also, Warsow is a modified (read: MODified) version of the base pak files.

seeing as warsow is based on a heavily modified Qfusion engine, which is itself, heavily modified from the Q2 source....

Warsow is a standalone game....which is why it was judged as such in the moddb's annual competition... http://features.moddb.com/287/mods-of-2006-pl...e/?fpage=3

moddb gg

They were placed in "Standalone Game of the Year 2006"
NOT in "Mod of the Year 2006".

By a mod site.

Get a clue.

It was a pun. You didn't get it.

Half-Life 2 uses the modified Quake 1 engine. Is it a mod? No.
MoH uses the Quake 3 engine, is it a mod? No.
WSW is a free standalone game - you download it and it works, that is not a mod!

Technically, yes, they are.

your point being?

It's simply not true, and I know what I'm talking about. It uses it's own engine (qfusion which has been further tweaked, qfusion did use q2 as it's base at some point, but it is more comparable to q3 engine then q2), it does not use any base pak files (from q2, I assume you think?). Anyway it's a pointless discussion, it's like me trying to convince you trees are blue (cause they are blue and not green).

Apart from the engine, it has been built from scratch, a mod is a modification of a GAME, not a modification of an ENGINE (which warsow isn't either as it's a complete, standalone GAME). Q3 is a Q2 mod, Q4 a D3 mod, the comparisons shall never stop \o/

trees are blue?

Modded plants :(

Clearly you don't know what modification means.

Do enlighten me.

Warsow doesn't use another game to run on/for it's base and therefor is no mod.

The fact that is still runs on a modified version of the QFusion engine (try to keep up here, MODIFIED) is the first part. They have not replaced all the original quake code, nor have they replaced a lot. It's got some bells and whistles, but it's Q2 under the hood. As far as the pak files, they are MODIFIED game files. Of course they're not just baseq2 pak files with some edits, no mod is like that. However, it uses an alternate pak set (read: does what all other mods do) and loads those instead. Warsow is a mod in every way.

Oh, it's also bad.

:D It's modified yeah, but a mod in gaming terms is a modification of a game, warsow does not take a game as base, it takes an engine as base.

Anyway, I still don't get what you mean with that we use of the pak files. We have created all media ourselves, that includes textures, maps, models, animations, all particle effects.

This is the most rediculous argument I've ever had on ESR 8).

"It's modified yeah, but a mod in gaming terms is a modification of a game"

Why are you still defending this...

you are right. there is no need to defend it.

Only fools would doubt it anyways

If by fools, you mean "people with even half a brain", yes.

which covers you perfectly!

...you just promoted my argument.

I think only one person here doesn't know what 'mod' means.

Want me to teach you?

dude, it's like saying that every game based on the Q3 engine is a Q3-mod.

Hey, you're learning.

so your reasoning is moh/cod/cod2 are Q3 mods?

Did I go too fast?

Thats wrong. Example Quake 4 has the Doom 3 engine. So its a modification of the ENGINE not of the game! They use the engine to create Quake 4 not the Game!! You know what i mean?

Yes. It's an engine mod. However, it's a mod. It uses the same basic protocols and the same compiled language. Mod. In every way/shape/form.

so wsw isnt a game mod?

It's both.

which game?

uhh, read earlier posts, k?

well it doesnt modify any game so

We just went over this. Hint: you're wrong.

theres a difference between a game (meaning the content) and the game engine (meaning.. well, just the engine). Warsow doesnt modifiy any game content of any other game.

You make a weak argument at best. You can't just say I'm wrong and I am. You seem to have no idea how a game/mod/program/computer/abacus work.

The more people try to correct you, the righter you are ;D.
Keep it up! Modding LIVES! \o/

Oh come on now, let's just drop this already. I'm bored.

it's not modding any game(content).
and you're wrong.

Reading helps. A lot.

you made wrong claims there

you're like a normal human, only with the large rod stuck up your anus modification

envy, tbh

shut up u =p

:p

Whether it is ok to put this url here or not, there's still a video from a mod conference in France where they showcased W$w.

I've been nice and cut the first two thirds of the video which are just explanations in french, so that you can just enjoy the movement (performed by Blemish).

I remember playing the 2003 version. Impressions were mixed, but there were a lot of things missing and they re-did some models since then =)

Looks promising :) Fast and agile. Me likes. Really got a CPMA feeling from looking at it :)

I nominate W$w as gayest abbreviaton ever.

Warsow \o/

IMO they need a programmer/map makers/modlers with alot of time on his hands to get thingys moving tho.

tbh i think the maps look very promising (tho pretty basic as of now) but especially with the advanced movement system mapbuilding is pretty complicated :)

Yes, but they could need more people working on the project, maybe like 1000 so that we get a full release about, next week:>

you're absolutely right, i think working with a team of 1000 people will be much more productive and effective :p

never heard of this before. been looking on the website and sounds very interesting and the screenshots look good too!

then make sure you dont miss this pre-beta, or the movie hemosaek posted :)

i can dig it

lol, this game is more playable then painkiller will ever be :D

(i really like it, but thats maybe just because i am an q3 player)

this game will fuuuuuuuuucking rock.

let's test that hoping the public beta release will be out soon. :)

woot. looks cool, will try it out at school and some lans. keep it going guys!

starting it caused my computer to go down, in power where running trough it. happend twice... no parts where overheated either. mabye i should tell the developers so that they can try to fix it...

maybe you shouldn't put toast in the floppy drive

OMG ITS A LOBSTER!!!

woot, q3 maps work too :o. i wanna try CA or summit ;s
just love this, can't focus on anything else than this game atm ;D

DM6, DM13, DM14 etc.. ;)

played this beta now.

looks brilliant and the movement is awesome, mixing the speed of bunnyhopping with the ramp jumps and wall dodges etc kind of adds a new element to movement associated with qw/promode.

imo it would be nice to have the speed kept for the dodges, working a bit like the how the grapple is used in qw, but just for scaling the levels or maybe it already is and i just cant do it? =)

i've made a q3-mix-fix for those sounderrors ^^. pm me on irc and i'll mail em to you ([EYE]link @ qnet)

Thanks for the pack link, loving it. <3

BTW, anyone able to tell me why the game crashes when I try to play wdm1 after a few minutes? Really sad. =(

did you try gibbing the bodies with 'rail'? it makes the server crash sometimes.. try reconnecting, it kicks out clients ever 10 min or so :p.

I just bounced around alone and randomly got kicked off a few times, then crashed. Maybe something to do with the elevator, dunno.

The movement is incredible. I think the more I use it, the less i'll want to use any other kind of movement. Definitely raising the bar on the movement standard.

this game rox

/me downloads

the major part, why the public beta is delayed, is the port to the new qfusion engine. but things are going well, stay tuned :)

this game rocks, love the movement its crazy

judging from the extremely good feedback this game is getting (just from beta code) this game looks set to be big!

This game has a feeling of q1/q2/q3 alltogether :).
The walldodging is an awesome addition, why noone thought of implementing it in any major duel game before? :P

epic did :P

I havn't played UT that much so my memory can be a little screwed but wasn't it just 'normal' dodging side to side?

it has walldodging :) it's the same as the normal dodge, but you jump to a wall and dodge off it

That's in 2k3/4 =)

No, UT1 had walldodges as well. It just wasn't very flexible. Or am I mistaken...?

Mistaken innit.

K. Well, walldodges pwn.

this game looks ninja, gonna dl it :D

wow, gonna be dling this when im home, sounds good :>

Hi gamerz,

Big thanks to all of you for nice and supporting comments, be sure all this will help. We'll try our best to release some public version in the next weeks. No deadline fixed, we only know that nothing can stop us, now =)

SoLomoNK (lead project)

ah cool, so it's ok for me posting this on ESR :p i was kinda hesitating but it would be too bad not to let all the ESR-ers in on this one :p.
anyway great going, you guys are my heroes and i'll be following the development with great interest :)

today i rebinded my config.. something like this.

rfdg - movement (my ordinary movement controls)
here is the special part:
mouse2 - jump (nothing special about it)
mouse1 - walljump (:O)
mouse4 - strong attack
mouse5 - weak attack

so ill be using the right hand a bit more in this game.. have only tried it on my ms1.1 and i dont think it will work any good on the ms3.0...

really hard to get used to but i cant se any other sulotion :S

Hi jockos,
our coders currently working on a complete new weapon system, so there will be 2 kinds of ammos for each weapon (strong and weak, mainly), and only one attack key. According to Blemish, our lead designer, this would introduce some interesting ammo deny tactic =)

plz, is there any way any admin around could fix my wrong tag syntax ?
Tks in advance,
SoLomoNK

omg i love you :x

did you read about my previous problem about the computer dying? any idea what might cause it? i really dont like playing it on the laptop, very unstable fps...

thanks for a great game btw :D
if it ever gets out it will be the first game i actually pay for in many years..

Well, it could come from the OS, as I remember earliest versions had troubles under win2000, but I guess you would have told it.
I think you could get some info by letting us a post with in our report bug board :
http://www.warsow.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=7
Maybe Kurim (lead coder) could help you too on IRC :
#warsow@quakenet.org or #warsow@worldnet.net

SoLomoNK

as the matther of fact i do run win 2k..

Looks awesome!

Oh man, now this shit has potential for sure, there's no doubt about that. I got that feeling "this is hot!" while jumping around, trying out the movement etc.

I really feel Warsow is going in the right direction, which is obvious from a few of the big names who have signed up for the project. But, I think warsow has gone a bit too far with the movement.

Currently, players can move horizontally around 1000 units without touching the ground, and climb upwards by about 500 units. In order for mappers to create proper maps that won't be "broken" by the movement, you're looking at obscenely long gaps or extreme vertical differences to prevent people from traveling where they're not supposed to. Vertical action is a good thing, but this might be too much.

My general suggestion would be to limit the trick jumps to a single jump, which seems to cut down these numbers by a third.

I haven't been able to get a good feel for the weapons as I can't seem to get an internet game working :(

Then again, anyone who knows me, knows that I have very limited experiance with game design. So what do I know? :)

and i want it increased to 3 jumps :P

imagine the incredible stunts you can do than... and also as the weapons do alot of damage it balances out the fact that its shit hard to hit the enemies.

Well Jockos, we decided to limit consecutive wall jumps at 2, as a triple wall jump combo would required too much specific layouts in order to keep a good control of way points. Mapping layout, deeply binded to our trix focused gameplay, is big matter.

About weapon's damage, this feeling may come too from our extensive use of radius weapons (so as reducing ping discrimination). BTW, all this still need serious testing and tweaking :p

SoLomoNK

dunno why, but somehow i felt remembered to defrag when i saw this video ?

i love it

Thing you might not have noticed, but that was explained in the full video :
You can grind up a ledge if you jump on it and hold dash with no speed loss =) "à la Jet Set Radio" like they say in the presentation.

the video isn't in english?

Nope, as I mentioned in #2, it's all in french.

I didn't know that.. that's sick

Our Ramp Slide move, not finished yet, is quite different than JSR's one (I speak about the original game on Dreamcast, never tested X-box version).
In JSR, remember how pain in the a** it is to get stuck at low speed without being able to jump off ramps...
In w§w, you simply have to release the dash button then you instantly get unstuck from ramp, and this brings big comfort =))

BTW, tks once again to all of you guys for your support and kindness !

SoLomoNK

Fais-toi un compte ici nondidjiou :P

done ! :þ

tks? I prefer spawnkills.

check this out!

amazing :D
I really cant wait till this is out now! Only concern is will it have a big enough community base to really take off.

it has to have a big community! I say, all give maximum support and as soon as the public beta is out pimp it like a madman, get pickup channels and community channels and play it all day. Would be so cool if we weren't dependant on lame developers who put ONS in their games etc :P
This is the chance to show the power of the community! we rule!

/me applause ç[^L^]o

this game just rocks .
- it looks cool
- fast paced gameplay
- many trickjumps
- no big developer behind who thinks all the time abouts his profit
- from the community for the community

me <3 warsow

agreed.

word bro

omg ok so i played this with my brother on LAN and it turned into matrix shit it was so cooooooooooooool...
ok on wdm1 without wanting to i did this awesome trick, jump dodge off the wall with the gl ledge, then a dodge jump off the wall perpendicular to it and i got up to the second floor and i was like holy shit and my brother was like holy shit how the fuck did u do that?? *unnamed ate VoRAdoR's rocket*
:D
this game seriously can have movements like in the matrix, u do crazy stuff on walls that u never expect/thought u could do, omg i love it.
community roxx, weapons roxx coz its they suck at killing :D but that makes it even better! nebody used that crazy knife yet? imagine impaling someone midair using that... and the fast movement... u could easily have a duel full of spawn rape if u know 1337 movements...
this will dominate, both on the tricking and the fragging level. GG.

weapon changing is abit crazy atm. like ut2003 on steroids, u can shuffle through the weapons getting off lots of shots in a very short amount of time.
but the feel of the game is just right even now as its still unpolished

Really promising game.

Got it last night and I'm pretty amazed!
It still feels like quake and it's the first game where I really enjoy jumping around without any enemies. Even as a noob I could do some crazy jumps.. this might be the game I've been waiting for without even knowing it! :)

looks awesome

as soon as i start a game the screen is all black, with dots going up and down the screen, although the huds there, and i can play >:/ driving me a bit crazy because this game looks really fun :( could be the shit integrated intel graphics on my friends shit comp.

and right after i posted i could play. thankyou magical esr.

np man...

;p

[-] has been disabled ;P

there would be no reason to, obviously :p

i'm looking that game from many time...

war§ow r0x ;)

n1!

tested it, it rocks. :)

awesome movement

they released another internal alpha:
http://www.warsow.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=...7c5673c3e9

oh, this jumping is so addictive :/

=) 0.3 is coming soon
<3 <3

it feels nice too :)

details plz?

its better than 0.2

;)

is it better than 0.21 too? :P

ye

warsow need some bling to make it up to date and baller enough to attract a wider audience. Why is there no model with a new era cap or why am able to choose like every color there is except shiny gold? Theres also no audio taunt that says "holla" or "ship it"
Bad.

you're right, we need more random funny stuff
The modelers have been working on new models, sound people have been on drugs for most of the time, nothing more than usual :-), and well, etr's been partying on boats...
the life of a warsowian is good.

wsw 0.3 ca-preview

http://files.filefront.com/warsow_03_coming_s...einfo.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZN-gUtVUaw

0.3 will rock