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Posted by gSTRUCTOR @ 21:27 CDT, 1 August 2025 - iMsg
Aug 1st 2025

23:25 -03 - 2359 users online

I see most topics are dead, even some that have interesting information.

How is the users online calculated? hmmm
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Reflections with Makaveli: Changing my narrative (8 comments)
Posted by Thorin @ 13:56 CDT, 28 July 2025 - iMsg
In the 500th episode of my "Reflections" series I interviewed United States of America Victor "Makaveli" Cuadra, elite dueler and Quake legend.

Makaveli was one of the pioneers of the professional Quake 2 duel scene in the late 90s, along with friends and rivals United States of America Thresh and United States of America immortal. Players like United States of America Fatal1ty and United States of America ZeRo4 have credited him with inspiring their approach to pro play. He became the "unofficial world champion" after beating Norway Shub in an exhibition series after the Norwegian had won EDL.

Makaveli discussed his recent recontextualising of his playing career, the reasons he chose a life without esports and how archiving his past has changed his perspective.

Edited by Thorin at 09:40 CDT, 30 July 2025 - 831 Hits
Requiem for Quake II (2 comments)
Posted by baron Railgun @ 18:56 CDT, 21 July 2025 - iMsg
So a few words or ideas about the actual situation of gaming and (defunct) id Software MP games in special.

I think that irony with all newer games after Doom2 was that their MP was better than the SP where they focused more on SP, like Quake2 and Doom3, and the game that was designed especially for MP, Quake3, did not rise to the level of Quake2 Nor Quake1 or Doom3 in deathmatch.
After looking again at all those epic matches, I started to think that Quake2 was the most perfectly crafted, sometimes balanced, sometimes not, but giving importance to aspects like denying weapons, positioning and making in general brain matter more than in Quake3. What made Quake3 bad compared to Quake2 was the perfectly timed items, the imposed faster gameplay paced and improved accent on aiming. Filling all maps with too much armor and reduced respawn times for weapons were supposed to make games more frantic, fight, fight, fight. Instead it produced boring arse matches, where the spectator watches in awe at perfectly executed stunts with refined aim, and left you after empty, like watching a movie filled with special effects but garbage story.
To its due, Quake2 because is more slow and more methodic in its action is not fit for anyone, not for the stupid.

But Quake2 did not escape the garbage.
What f-ed up Quake2 still is the modern gaming hordes, who learned to abuse maps architecture. Like on The Edge, you supposed to pick mega and armor by rocket jumping and using the stairs, not combo-jumping and pick up all fast. This would slow a bit the pace and would reduce the control of the guy defending the room since he could not be exactly so easy all around to pick all in 2 seconds. Then they started to buy expensive mouse hw to aim better (to cheat in a way the limits of the railgun and of chaingun -hitscan weapons) and they cheated even more using crazy fovs to see more around. As an irony the end result was that players who became good at this kind of play, based on aim, execution, fast action and +forward, in Quake games, lack brain and general strategy knowledge, and got owned by brain players like Rapha.
So in a way the concept of Quake2 and Quake3 gameplay got its revenge, having the abusers getting kneeled by people with brain. Unfortunately not many rise up in the scene like this, because things are increasingly difficult with games where pro players can use execution to such extend, thanks to gimmicks, advanced hardware and all that garbage, that would overcome smartness. Unless smart guys have to spend huge amounts of time to get at closer level with the established "elite".
So I seen guys commenting about older Quake players and how they would stand no chance versus "enlightened" new wave or shall we say players after 2000. Well, I say, give them a ball mouse, reduced bind options, less strafejump mechanics (add a block depending on armor carry), and deny wider fov and all that s (supposedly improved) stuff that made them cheat their way to the top. Would they dominate then? After 2 decades of building just muscle memory and brain drainage? I don't think so...

So up until now, watching thousands of matches for quake1,2,3,ql,d3, q4, all I can think is that the ones played in the beginning are more valuable because (raw) superior gameplay mechanics, during the times of Quake1 and Quake2, and Quake2 gets the top of the cake. Quake1 was also close, until players learned to use and abuse strafejump to perfection and add new hw for improved aim, which changed the whole picture and the animation of the gameplay into -again -execution instead smartness.


[maybe I'll add more thoughts in the future]

side note: the only weapon that I don't like, never did in Quake2, was the blaster -design wise, usability, rate of fire and the shot effect is like you shoot colored spagetti
Edited by baron Railgun at 18:59 CDT, 21 July 2025 - 638 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 12:29 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By clawo ini 
Polos > *
<< Comment #10 @ 17:33 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Polosatiy iz rulez!!!
<< Comment #2 @ 13:06 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
pope missing
<< Comment #3 @ 13:14 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
missing major events form last 3-4 years

1. invention of jamerio user level
2. entry #36 controversy
3. xerp whine controversy
3. liam's mass accounting for the dark matter in the universe
4. infamous forum post link / disappear bug
Edited by butcher_kgp at 13:15 CDT, 27 March 2009
<< Comment #4 @ 14:30 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
entry 36?
<< Comment #5 @ 14:43 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #4
Due to popular demand
<< Comment #6 @ 15:23 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Unset Aaron 
entry 36
<< Comment #7 @ 15:33 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
sombra?
<< Comment #8 @ 15:36 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
entry 36 lolol
<< Comment #9 @ 17:26 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
Entry #36 of course!
<< Comment #11 @ 18:46 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Cant vote, missing the "all those pesky bugs since 2007". Whats the blue bug?
<< Comment #12 @ 19:12 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By bzzd's_pixelskull twi 
who the fuck is "cl0ck"?
<< Comment #13 @ 19:18 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By aggnog zengfu 
xerp
<< Comment #14 @ 19:42 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
explain #36 please
<< Comment #15 @ 20:17 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
<< Comment #21 @ 10:21 CDT, 28 March 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo  - Reply to #15
thx
<< Comment #16 @ 21:48 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By France chuky 
Toxic losing on purpose the first bo3 to Fatal1ty
<< Comment #17 @ 23:38 CDT, 27 March 2009 >>
By boatclub tom  - Reply to #16
an esr classic
<< Comment #18 @ 03:14 CDT, 28 March 2009 >>
cl0ck caught cheating thread please?
<< Comment #19 @ 06:17 CDT, 28 March 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman 
solid 9% rail
<< Comment #38 @ 17:43 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #19
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Edited by Bob at 21:56 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #40 @ 18:03 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #38
fkn nwb
<< Comment #41 @ 18:09 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #40
.
Edited by Bob at 21:57 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #42 @ 18:11 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #41
bloody freshman
<< Comment #20 @ 10:00 CDT, 28 March 2009 >>
By Belgium hydra 
Not my trouble.
<< Comment #22 @ 21:04 CDT, 28 March 2009 >>
By Unset Aaron 
Paladia's and xou's attempted reign of righteousness!
<< Comment #23 @ 08:46 CDT, 29 March 2009 >>
By LOLBARN blue 
pope rage definitely missing here
<< Comment #36 @ 16:19 CDT, 31 March 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #23
Yup, that was truly epic.
<< Comment #24 @ 10:44 CDT, 29 March 2009 >>
By Lithuania GUArd 
The Blue bug ? more info? :) im not new in q3, but somehow i missed it :)
<< Comment #25 @ 12:54 CDT, 29 March 2009 >>
By Pink Smiley Melachi dansen  - Reply to #24
i think he caught a rocket and wasnt damaged at some cpl event. think it was dm13
<< Comment #26 @ 14:44 CDT, 29 March 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #25
It was in a CPL tournament, that's right.

It was on Q3Tourney4. Blue vs Excalibur played using Q3Comp.

At that time, it was Q3Comp and OSP being used as tournament mods, with Q3Comp having a slight advantage.

On the map, at times when Blue shot Excalibur with rail and shotgun Excalibur took no damage at all. A clip was later released with him doing a dead on hit with shotgun yet Excalibur took no damage.

Blue lost that game and was pretty much out of the tournament, which was a huge upset since he finished as #32 I believe, while people expected him to finish much better. After that, he stopped playing Quake 3.

However, some people noticed something felt wrong and checked the game more closely, so they saw that his hits didn't actually connect. A video was released and the controversy was quite hectic in the quake community.

After some discussion, CPL made an official announcement about it and decided to move Blue up to eight place I believe (with the money to show for it). Thanks to the Blue bug Q3Comp was forever disabled from all further tournaments.
Edited by Paladia at 14:45 CDT, 29 March 2009
<< Comment #27 @ 14:14 CDT, 30 March 2009 >>
By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #26
it should be noted that blue's enemy made the bug happen with console commands he found out in the weeks before the event. most disgraceful shit ever to happen at a q3 tournament.
<< Comment #28 @ 14:37 CDT, 30 March 2009 >>
By United Kingdom ix  - Reply to #27
Yes, excaulibur knew what he was doing and used illegal command values to activate the bug. Blue and the CPL dealt with it really well though and Q3Comp was unfairly maligned as the bug was to do with pmove code that both Q3Comp and OSP contained.
<< Comment #29 @ 14:47 CDT, 30 March 2009 >>
By Belgium hydra  - Reply to #28
wasn't he just using pmove_fixed 1 and com_maxfps > 125?
Were that illegal commands in the tourney?
<< Comment #30 @ 17:26 CDT, 30 March 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #29
He used cl_125 "1" and com_maxfps "9999".
<< Comment #72 @ 04:33 CDT, 20 April 2009 >>
By Colour: white link  - Reply to #26
Edited by link at 04:33 CDT, 20 April 2009
<< Comment #31 @ 20:07 CDT, 30 March 2009 >>
By LOLBARN endi 
pope rage, 9% n trm's teeth ldo
<< Comment #33 @ 10:58 CDT, 31 March 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #31
trm ye :D
<< Comment #35 @ 11:40 CDT, 31 March 2009 >>
By CPMA_text nekon  - Reply to #31
ye i remember those, where the fuck are they in the vote? <3
<< Comment #45 @ 03:48 CDT, 3 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #31
.
Edited by Bob at 21:57 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #47 @ 06:29 CDT, 3 April 2009 >>
By clawo .syL  - Reply to #45
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=771906


..you've also posted in it before
Edited by .syL at 06:29 CDT, 3 April 2009
<< Comment #32 @ 09:55 CDT, 31 March 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern Shock R. 
What's Entry #36 anyways ^^
Actually some of those things rang a bill in my head.... i.e. the mousescore. Tho I have almost no clue anymore what went on there ^^
<< Comment #34 @ 11:02 CDT, 31 March 2009 >>
<< Comment #37 @ 02:43 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern Shock R.  - Reply to #34
lol... thnkx for clearing that out ;-)
<< Comment #39 @ 17:47 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob 
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Edited by Bob at 21:57 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #52 @ 08:45 CDT, 6 April 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #39
still not sure which part about #36 I found the funniest.

But this time rereading it, it was the part where nicky said the only complaint was that there wasn't any reference to you :D
<< Comment #43 @ 21:30 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>
By SC_Terran Venim 
forgot about entry 36 until now haha
<< Comment #44 @ 07:48 CDT, 2 April 2009 >>
:: internet girlfriend <3
<< Comment #46 @ 03:48 CDT, 3 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #44
.
Edited by Bob at 21:57 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #48 @ 08:45 CDT, 3 April 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #46
Rofl, yeah. That was fucking hilarious!
<< Comment #74 @ 10:16 CDT, 21 April 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #44
lol yea that was awesome :D
<< Comment #49 @ 03:45 CDT, 4 April 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
what about the drama with hexus and intel and the nazi behaviors of the admins about it
<< Comment #50 @ 07:17 CDT, 4 April 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #49
Due to the undisclosed protocol 16 we are not at liberty to discuss that.
<< Comment #51 @ 23:00 CDT, 5 April 2009 >>
By CPM Biohaz (Blue) Lsv 
Who the fuck is cl0ck?
<< Comment #53 @ 10:51 CDT, 6 April 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire 
thresh outvoted thread?
<< Comment #54 @ 11:08 CDT, 6 April 2009 >>
<< Comment #55 @ 13:52 CDT, 6 April 2009 >>
<< Comment #56 @ 06:56 CDT, 8 April 2009 >>
By Netherlands Xhep 
Why isnt the thing on there where Carmack I think made a poll about "favourite Cooller quote's" and the site got flooded by angry russians that said "Cooller didnt quit playing yet!", that stuff was hilarious.
<< Comment #57 @ 15:33 CDT, 9 April 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob 
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Edited by Bob at 21:57 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #59 @ 05:41 CDT, 11 April 2009 >>
By blank koekie  - Reply to #57
elpajuo innit.
<< Comment #58 @ 22:35 CDT, 9 April 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp 
something including yellow teeth
Edited by zkyp at 22:36 CDT, 9 April 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 14:17 CDT, 12 April 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike  - Reply to #58
or white socks !
<< Comment #67 @ 18:47 CDT, 14 April 2009 >>
By Sarge TUMULT  - Reply to #58
<< Comment #68 @ 10:46 CDT, 16 April 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #67
wow thanks for that link my new polish mate. I never knew it was about TRM. Who is he anway?

MFG,
ZKYP
<< Comment #61 @ 14:47 CDT, 12 April 2009 >>
By India ashr 
voted for entry 36 but you forgot Sombra caught cheating and then threatening legal action.
<< Comment #64 @ 06:46 CDT, 13 April 2009 >>
By Way2Tartan fjorgyn  - Reply to #61
Which notable events do you remember?

if you don't remember sombra cheating you should see a doctor :P
Edited by fjorgyn at 06:46 CDT, 13 April 2009
<< Comment #62 @ 14:58 CDT, 12 April 2009 >>
By ql loveless 
where's the demos of cl0ck cheating?
i missed out on some lulz, apparently :|
<< Comment #63 @ 06:25 CDT, 13 April 2009 >>
Why was [-] removed?
<< Comment #76 @ 15:37 CDT, 21 April 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #63
[-]
<< Comment #65 @ 03:28 CDT, 14 April 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
what about the stickman-ejaculating-on-photo controversy?
<< Comment #66 @ 18:42 CDT, 14 April 2009 >>
<< Comment #69 @ 09:26 CDT, 17 April 2009 >>
By Canada meat man 
I totally remember the post that was about ESo, and the event that followed, but I forget what tournament it was. Was it the WCG tourney?
<< Comment #70 @ 09:28 CDT, 17 April 2009 >>
By Canada meat man  - Reply to #69
Nevermind, apparently I'm totally wrong.
<< Comment #71 @ 08:08 CDT, 18 April 2009 >>
By Colour: white dreg 
I had no idea what Post #36 was... until today... and I also had no idea I was in the bloomin' thing :o
<< Comment #75 @ 11:48 CDT, 21 April 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #71
Star of the show!
<< Comment #73 @ 13:46 CDT, 20 April 2009 >>
By Smiley :) feTzu 
I'm lazy: links to every thread, please!
<< Comment #77 @ 14:13 CDT, 19 May 2009 >>
By rtfm Larvi 
I know it's fairly recently but the Sombra incident should've been on there aswell.
ALSO: The fatalonety comics
<< Comment #78 @ 08:12 CST, 3 December 2009 >>

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