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Posted by gSTRUCTOR @ 21:27 CDT, 1 August 2025 - iMsg
Aug 1st 2025

23:25 -03 - 2359 users online

I see most topics are dead, even some that have interesting information.

How is the users online calculated? hmmm
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Reflections with Makaveli: Changing my narrative (8 comments)
Posted by Thorin @ 13:56 CDT, 28 July 2025 - iMsg
In the 500th episode of my "Reflections" series I interviewed United States of America Victor "Makaveli" Cuadra, elite dueler and Quake legend.

Makaveli was one of the pioneers of the professional Quake 2 duel scene in the late 90s, along with friends and rivals United States of America Thresh and United States of America immortal. Players like United States of America Fatal1ty and United States of America ZeRo4 have credited him with inspiring their approach to pro play. He became the "unofficial world champion" after beating Norway Shub in an exhibition series after the Norwegian had won EDL.

Makaveli discussed his recent recontextualising of his playing career, the reasons he chose a life without esports and how archiving his past has changed his perspective.

Edited by Thorin at 09:40 CDT, 30 July 2025 - 831 Hits
Requiem for Quake II (2 comments)
Posted by baron Railgun @ 18:56 CDT, 21 July 2025 - iMsg
So a few words or ideas about the actual situation of gaming and (defunct) id Software MP games in special.

I think that irony with all newer games after Doom2 was that their MP was better than the SP where they focused more on SP, like Quake2 and Doom3, and the game that was designed especially for MP, Quake3, did not rise to the level of Quake2 Nor Quake1 or Doom3 in deathmatch.
After looking again at all those epic matches, I started to think that Quake2 was the most perfectly crafted, sometimes balanced, sometimes not, but giving importance to aspects like denying weapons, positioning and making in general brain matter more than in Quake3. What made Quake3 bad compared to Quake2 was the perfectly timed items, the imposed faster gameplay paced and improved accent on aiming. Filling all maps with too much armor and reduced respawn times for weapons were supposed to make games more frantic, fight, fight, fight. Instead it produced boring arse matches, where the spectator watches in awe at perfectly executed stunts with refined aim, and left you after empty, like watching a movie filled with special effects but garbage story.
To its due, Quake2 because is more slow and more methodic in its action is not fit for anyone, not for the stupid.

But Quake2 did not escape the garbage.
What f-ed up Quake2 still is the modern gaming hordes, who learned to abuse maps architecture. Like on The Edge, you supposed to pick mega and armor by rocket jumping and using the stairs, not combo-jumping and pick up all fast. This would slow a bit the pace and would reduce the control of the guy defending the room since he could not be exactly so easy all around to pick all in 2 seconds. Then they started to buy expensive mouse hw to aim better (to cheat in a way the limits of the railgun and of chaingun -hitscan weapons) and they cheated even more using crazy fovs to see more around. As an irony the end result was that players who became good at this kind of play, based on aim, execution, fast action and +forward, in Quake games, lack brain and general strategy knowledge, and got owned by brain players like Rapha.
So in a way the concept of Quake2 and Quake3 gameplay got its revenge, having the abusers getting kneeled by people with brain. Unfortunately not many rise up in the scene like this, because things are increasingly difficult with games where pro players can use execution to such extend, thanks to gimmicks, advanced hardware and all that garbage, that would overcome smartness. Unless smart guys have to spend huge amounts of time to get at closer level with the established "elite".
So I seen guys commenting about older Quake players and how they would stand no chance versus "enlightened" new wave or shall we say players after 2000. Well, I say, give them a ball mouse, reduced bind options, less strafejump mechanics (add a block depending on armor carry), and deny wider fov and all that s (supposedly improved) stuff that made them cheat their way to the top. Would they dominate then? After 2 decades of building just muscle memory and brain drainage? I don't think so...

So up until now, watching thousands of matches for quake1,2,3,ql,d3, q4, all I can think is that the ones played in the beginning are more valuable because (raw) superior gameplay mechanics, during the times of Quake1 and Quake2, and Quake2 gets the top of the cake. Quake1 was also close, until players learned to use and abuse strafejump to perfection and add new hw for improved aim, which changed the whole picture and the animation of the gameplay into -again -execution instead smartness.


[maybe I'll add more thoughts in the future]

side note: the only weapon that I don't like, never did in Quake2, was the blaster -design wise, usability, rate of fire and the shot effect is like you shoot colored spagetti
Edited by baron Railgun at 18:59 CDT, 21 July 2025 - 638 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 07:08 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By CNN Ryan2015 
Dont play Q3 but QL CTF rocks!
<< Comment #13 @ 11:46 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By pilgr1m_syn outlaw  - Reply to #1
fuck you
<< Comment #14 @ 12:32 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #13
fuck you
<< Comment #20 @ 17:24 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Macedonia darko  - Reply to #14
fuck you
<< Comment #47 @ 07:34 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>
By B2L - Barrysworld th0r^  - Reply to #20
"fuck you" you
<< Comment #18 @ 15:26 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By CNN Ryan2015  - Reply to #13
its been a long time since i touched Q3

and btw

LIAM asks when you return his call , he feels lonely
Edited by Sun Tzu at 15:26 CDT, 13 July 2009
<< Comment #2 @ 09:11 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By nade browser 
multiple thingy would have been poll licenceicious
<< Comment #3 @ 09:53 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #2
The law of time states that two time frames cannot be identical, therefore one must be played more than the other.
<< Comment #4 @ 10:06 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #2
It would also have been boring since I expect a lot of people would have selected all of them.
<< Comment #5 @ 10:18 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By Pink Smiley Melachi dansen 
zvt
<< Comment #6 @ 10:21 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By Finland Vajra 
tdm for lyfe
<< Comment #8 @ 12:00 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #6
^
<< Comment #7 @ 10:22 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>
By nade browser 
so after this we make another poll to find out how many insta/df...etc players are here. which would be interesting too
<< Comment #9 @ 05:41 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Question should be which gametype I enjoy the most.

Cause I play CA the most and I wont vote it! ;) If the TDM scene were more active I would defenitely play it more than CA, but as it is CA is the only mode you can play public without haveing the joiners and leavers ruining every game.
<< Comment #10 @ 03:54 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Half-Life Shaddap  - Reply to #9
Agree
<< Comment #11 @ 06:51 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #9
Having a poll like that isn't as consistent.

In my opinion, if what you want is depending on an if statement and said if statement isn't forfilled, then it isn't what you want (with current conditions). Since if it was what you wanted with current conditions, you'd do it instead.

Most likely if everyone got exactly what they wanted, they may be laying on a beach in the carribbean instead of playing Quake Live. Hence, I've chosen to base the poll on the current reality instead of a fictional one. Of course, it is completely valid to make a poll based on what players want as well but that wasn't the intention with the current poll.
Edited by Paladia at 06:55 CDT, 13 July 2009
<< Comment #16 @ 13:26 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo  - Reply to #11
If you say so.
<< Comment #15 @ 12:40 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Belgium impulseBE  - Reply to #9
you just got Paladia'd
Edited by impulseBE at 12:40 CDT, 13 July 2009
<< Comment #17 @ 13:26 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo  - Reply to #15
I hope it was as good for you as it was for him.
<< Comment #21 @ 17:28 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #17
You didn't enjoy it? :(
<< Comment #24 @ 06:06 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo  - Reply to #21
Nope.
<< Comment #25 @ 07:45 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #24
I'll try to be more gentle next time then :(
<< Comment #12 @ 09:58 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Argentina V1R7U4L 
Capture the Flag
<< Comment #19 @ 15:27 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Colour: white link 
i was hesitating about playing NTF more but i think lately i've been playing tdm more.. not that i have played in weeks but ye ^^
<< Comment #22 @ 20:19 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
i play most ca/duels, but i voted for insta =[
<< Comment #23 @ 02:19 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Protossicon Adel 
For Q3, Qlive and UT2kx i'm going for TDM (ctf and duel are kinda slow on these games)

QW, Q4, PK, CPM, Ut99/3 and Wsw it's Duel (and i also like ctf)

Didnt play enough Q2 to decide.
<< Comment #26 @ 11:02 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Chile patar 
CTF
<< Comment #28 @ 13:23 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Chile TheMarine 
CTF/Duel
<< Comment #27 @ 13:23 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Chile Rabo 
ctf to el rato, de vio
<< Comment #29 @ 14:44 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Chile S1r 
CTF!! >8)
<< Comment #30 @ 20:48 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>
By Chile ToCh! 
CTF :D
<< Comment #31 @ 20:41 CDT, 15 July 2009 >>
By LOLBARN endi 
only failed tdm'ers play ctf and other nonsense modes
<< Comment #32 @ 20:44 CDT, 17 July 2009 >>
i've been playing some games in #uscpmpickup lately. mostly ctf.
<< Comment #34 @ 22:26 CDT, 21 July 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #32
i'd like to do that, too.
sadly my current mouse is worth shit (9€) and i can't be arsed to pay 60€ for a proper one.

means: i can only play slowmode ctf and duel. :(
<< Comment #35 @ 23:19 CDT, 21 July 2009 >>
By Germany fragmaster_  - Reply to #34
i'm playing with a cheapo $5 logitech 2-button mouse. not perfect, but it does the job :>
<< Comment #36 @ 23:20 CDT, 21 July 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #35
doesn't it skip like shit?
<< Comment #37 @ 23:22 CDT, 21 July 2009 >>
By Germany fragmaster_  - Reply to #36
nope, it works surprisingly well! you have to move it really fast to make it skip. even faster than cpm movement requires ;p then again, i'm a cpm noob, so...
Edited by fragmaster_ at 23:23 CDT, 21 July 2009
<< Comment #39 @ 12:22 CDT, 22 July 2009 >>
By clawo .syL  - Reply to #37
I was just about to ask why you play in uscpmpickup, but the cpm noob part explains it all
<< Comment #40 @ 15:04 CDT, 22 July 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #37
"then again, i'm a cpm noob, so..."
Liar! :)

I'm way more noob than you. Thankfully I'm often not the worst one on the server (only half the time). :<
<< Comment #41 @ 19:03 CDT, 22 July 2009 >>
By Germany fragmaster_  - Reply to #40
hehe :>
<< Comment #42 @ 14:12 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #34
1.1/3.0
15/30eur
<< Comment #33 @ 21:02 CDT, 21 July 2009 >>
By Aussie grimstar Tree_ 
Nothing but CTF, anything else is blegh.
<< Comment #38 @ 03:51 CDT, 22 July 2009 >>
<< Comment #43 @ 14:15 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman 
can't decide between CTF, TDM and 1v1 :| 3 games a month each! xD
<< Comment #44 @ 16:39 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>
By Germany - Hamburg unihumi 
CA/TDM, but I would so fucking love to play Freeze Tag all day long!!!
<< Comment #45 @ 20:00 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
ffa,tdm,ca,1v1
<< Comment #46 @ 22:26 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>
wsw bomb \o/
<< Comment #48 @ 07:39 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>
By B2L - Barrysworld th0r^ 
On QL, it is definitly Duel, that click & play shit is awesome ! I'm so fucking borred of those games where you do nothing but wait.

For those who played Left 4 Dead, it's the biggest crap around ! It takes like 5 minutes to fill up a game, then after 3 minutes ingame, people start leaving and noone replace them, so you quit (2 vs bots on L4D ain't that fun), wait 5 minutes again (if it's on evening with lot of players online) and then go for that 3 minutes match ! For real, the online system ruined the game.
<< Comment #49 @ 08:27 CDT, 3 August 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
NTF is what I play the most, I think I enjoy ctf more though but as it's borked both in cpm and ql I'd stay with ntf :)
<< Comment #50 @ 04:20 CDT, 5 August 2009 >>
By ovo10 OvO 
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Edited by OvO at 04:21 CDT, 5 August 2009
<< Comment #51 @ 04:13 CST, 2 January 2010 >>
By Spain jal 
Bomb!

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