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HoQ TDM 4v4 Winter Season 2025 (1 comment)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by doz3r @ 10:16 CST, 15 November 2024 - iMsg

The sign-ups for

Quake Live TDM 4v4 Winter Season 2025 will be open from Sunday 1st December until Sunday 22nd of December 2024.

The Tournament start will be Monday 13th of January 2025, when hopefully all are back from their holidays.

The donated prizemoney so far is 1200€ donations which will be payed out over top3 placements. Donations will be possible until the end of the tournament.

Check below for all needed informations and sign-up! If you already have player and clan account on House of Quake, feel free to sign-up right away. Otherwise make sure to register yourselves and your clan first.

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Maps 4v4

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Links: Rules 4v4, Signups 4v4, HoQ Discord

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Need maps for q4 (No comments)

( Forum: Gaming)

Posted by WhiteMagicRaven @ 11:19 CST, 7 November 2024 - iMsg

Please upload those maps if someone have them:

OSPDM8 Remix beta
https://web.archive.org/web/20071105174338/ht...p;forum=22

map_hunterstrailbeta2.pk4
https://web.archive.org/web/20060228183617/ht...id=1009797

map_electrobopolisalfa.pk4
map_thebadplacebeta.pk4
https://web.archive.org/web/20060213141249/ht...;id=998151

q4dmseven
https://web.archive.org/web/20071204075159/ht...id=1447524

Q4 DM Map - Cold War beta1
https://web.archive.org/web/20080105050116/ht...p;forum=22
http://www.justiningels.com/ld/quake4.html

dm_stoned
https://web.archive.org/web/20060615005820if_...yer.de:80/

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World's Greatest Gamer Event - QC - Punk vs Leffen (1 comment)

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Posted by an1me @ 04:36 CST, 4 November 2024 - iMsg

https://www.youtube.com/live/ONksnc4X2g8?si=5bBBY1BrB83WB8RT

Youtuber Ludwig holds the Worlds Greatest Gamer event where Quake Champions is one of the game. This match was pretty exciting actually, at about 7 hours 47 minutes, two Evo champs going at it, Punk vs Ledden. What do you think of their level for first time players? Apparently they both thought the game was fun

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Cooler Interview 9.8.24 (1 comment)

( News: Q3)

Posted by rockz @ 12:57 CST, 3 November 2024 - iMsg

unfortunately in russian tongue

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<< Comment #1 @ 12:35 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

epsy

Where are plaincolor picmips? I'd be fine with either 0 or 10+, rest looks crap to me.

<< Comment #7 @ 12:53 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #1

the option was missing, added 16 (aka max value)

<< Comment #50 @ 09:28 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

unihumi - Reply to #7

If I recall correctly, the maximum value was 8. Everything beyond that value doesn't look any different.

<< Comment #54 @ 09:45 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

spyteman - Reply to #50

afair it depends on the textures' resolution whether it has any further effect or not, 9 should be sufficient for any textures in q3 or something like that.

<< Comment #2 @ 12:41 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

klaovhwN

bind f3 "exec stream.cfg"

stream.cfg

s_musicvolume "0"

<< Comment #3 @ 12:42 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #2

Every time a map starts I think to myself, I hope they leave the music on...

They always turn it off though :(

serious...

<< Comment #4 @ 12:44 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #3

:D

<< Comment #5 @ 12:53 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr

16 !

<< Comment #6 @ 12:53 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm

Isn't this a delicate issue because of the way the stream is encoded? Using lower picmip gives nicer textures, but results in harsher compression and increases artefacts, possibly making it look worse and/or harder to follow. I'm out of my depth here, but someone reading this will know.
Just throwing it open to a poll could be a bit dangerous because generally people would rather look at nicer textures when speccing (I can see already picmip 0 is winning), but might wrongly assume the stream would transmit this higher quality flawlessly.
Someone with a clue can reply to this (maybe you), or I would suggest at least testing it (maybe internally).

i also think this could be a problem

<< Comment #51 @ 09:29 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

unihumi - Reply to #6

Yep, exactly. Plain graphics will result in a more clear picture, rather than having those big and blocky artefacts. Therefore I voted 16.

<< Comment #8 @ 12:58 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

I think it's the opposite of what people think.

Picmip 6 would have very basic walls, less variance in colour, meaning less compression needed. A wall that's one colour will always be 20x smaller in file size then a wall with a variance of colours.

If we're dealing with the free stream, there's no need for Picmip 0. We won't see that much detail, and if Picmip 0 were to be used, the majority of the compression would be used for the useless textures.

If we ran Picmip 6, the compression can be used for other factors of what we're seeing, like score, weapon shots, etc.

<< Comment #9 @ 13:39 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Po0dle

Keep it nice and simple to see, 6 is perfect

<< Comment #10 @ 14:17 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o

picmip 0 of course, most people will always want best graphics and quality so i dont see any reason for using a setting which makes game look older and uglier.. Its like quake movies, who the fuck wants to watch them with anything other that picmip 0? i think no one since havent seen any picmipped movies..

just get premium stream if you think that better textures will fuck the quality..

<< Comment #45 @ 14:19 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

wata - Reply to #10

premium could get an even better quality with more picmip (be it more framerate, less artifacts, or higher resolution)

no use for "the best quality texture a 10 years old game can offer", still looks like 10 years old (on the other hand picmip looks kind of classy)

<< Comment #11 @ 14:41 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

son1dow

I don't get how people can use anything besides 0 and 16.

<< Comment #55 @ 09:47 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

spyteman - Reply to #11

picmip 5/6? better depth perception than 9 or 16, but less stress on the eyes than 0

<< Comment #59 @ 10:02 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

son1dow - Reply to #55

well picmip 6 is OK, but I kinda prefer it to be all "toyish". The thing what I mean was that r_picmip 1-4 sucks, it looks awful and doesn't help seeing anything, in any way.

<< Comment #61 @ 10:06 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

spyteman - Reply to #59

1-4 are quite useless indeed :)

<< Comment #68 @ 17:40 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

f0cus - Reply to #59

agreed

<< Comment #12 @ 16:55 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

pface

picmip should be 10 and fullbright set to 1..

<< Comment #13 @ 17:01 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #12

8-16 same

<< Comment #21 @ 19:42 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #12

FULLBRIGHT (Y)

<< Comment #14 @ 17:06 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

exp!

10

<< Comment #15 @ 17:24 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

btl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTVQr0kNl2U picmip6_400kbit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGKTdCcW7_I picmip0_400kbit

<< Comment #16 @ 17:33 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #15

Mind doing the same with picmip 16?

<< Comment #17 @ 17:35 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

btl - Reply to #16

for me 16 is exactly the same as 6. actually the picmip6 might be with quake live set to picmip 16.

<< Comment #18 @ 17:37 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #17

Too bad it's down right now, I would have showed you the difference from my screenshots.

<< Comment #19 @ 17:42 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

btl - Reply to #18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwbLTbH5pro this one is picmip 16 + vertexlight 1. Personally I hate the look different lightmodes give QL in videos

<< Comment #22 @ 19:44 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #19

FULLBRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #80 @ 09:59 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

By

therm ' - Reply to #19

go r_ignorehwgamma 1 to get rid of those annoying shadows

Edited by 7herm at 10:00 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #74 @ 08:30 CDT, 18 October 2009 >>

By

crea* ' - Reply to #17

No it's different, with higher picmip that say 6 the steady light sources get fucked up.

<< Comment #20 @ 19:24 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #15

thx for doing this, maybe you could add a vid using picmip 4 (i guess thats what they use atm)
imho this really shows why picmip 0 sucks for streaming

didnt know 6 would be the same as 16 though o0 wodner why the cmd uses such high values when it doesnt change anything. or does it in combination with other settings?

Edited by Nukm at 19:27 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #23 @ 20:08 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

btl - Reply to #20

There's definitely a difference between pimip 6 and 16 when fullbright is turned on, but I don't see any change with the normal light settings

I guess the guys over at esl are using something like this config http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVHEtAhthHs picmip4 400kbit. Maybe with overbrightbits 0 instead of 1.

Here's also
picmip6 fullbright1 mapoverbrightbits2 400kbit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgPzMkOFq4o and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uVJ0OA4Ls fullbright1 picmip16 mapoverbrightbits2 400kbit

Edited by btl at 20:19 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #24 @ 20:14 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #23

The difference between 6 and 16 is obvious to me, but after 8 it's getting about the same. I don't see any difference between 10 and 16.

<< Comment #33 @ 05:49 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #23

When using fullbright I'd advise using overbrightbits "0" and mapoverbrightbits "0".

That gets rid of the super bright textures like the walls in those two videos (Also don't use it with vertexlight, but I guess you didn't).

<< Comment #52 @ 09:36 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

unihumi - Reply to #33

Yep, they should use
fullbright 1
vertex 0
lightmap 0

<< Comment #36 @ 06:46 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #23

Could someone show these videos to the quakelive.tv guys?

Their config is a bit much really!

<< Comment #26 @ 01:15 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

injx - Reply to #15

picmip 6+ is by far my preferred for streaming videos. the artifacts produced by higher quality are ugly and distracting.

dont use fullbright, the map needs to be dark compared to the enemies/items/etc.

also your (map)overbright settings look good in that picmip6 vid.

as far as vertex is concerned, i'd lean towards vertex off, as i find the extra detail helps to add depth to the image, which is better for spectating.

Edited by injx at 01:20 CDT, 29 July 2009

<< Comment #34 @ 05:50 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #26

When vertex and (map)overbrightbits are all set to "0" fullbright doesn't look so bright and generally looks nice and gives a nice contrast.

<< Comment #47 @ 18:55 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

neb - Reply to #26

did you ever play threewave for f3?

<< Comment #41 @ 13:14 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

oneroomdisco - Reply to #15

Exactly what I thought would happen. The Picmip 6 compression allows for more detail with everything else. =D

<< Comment #57 @ 09:53 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

spyteman - Reply to #15

end of discussion I guess :p

<< Comment #69 @ 06:16 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

By

GEKKO- - Reply to #15

Didnt take rendering and compression into consideration. Now I wanna revoke my vote to 10+ in stead =/

<< Comment #25 @ 00:27 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

pface

this is how it lookslike on my screen with
picmip 10
fullbright 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40931267@N03/3768313230/sizes/o/

Edited by Wigilante at 00:37 CDT, 29 July 2009

<< Comment #31 @ 05:45 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

Six16 - Reply to #25

shiney

<< Comment #35 @ 05:51 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #25

Do you have vertexlight "1" or lightmap "1" on?

<< Comment #37 @ 07:35 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

pface - Reply to #35

well you can see for your self, i´m not a cfg xpert so i have made these cfg´s from a QL Config Generator i found "somewhere" on inet...

there are 2 cfgs, play.cfg and spec.cfg the only thing that diffs are simpleitems and fov...

Config

Edited by iniiiiiiii at 07:40 CDT, 29 July 2009

<< Comment #38 @ 07:41 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #37

Yeah, vertexlight is "1"!

<< Comment #27 @ 01:51 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

Malice

I like it the way it is now.

Cause I has premium.

<< Comment #28 @ 02:50 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr

if we put 16 picmip then some premium users gonna think fuck i wasted 3 euros :( :P

<< Comment #53 @ 09:40 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

unihumi - Reply to #28

No, I won't.

<< Comment #56 @ 09:50 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o - Reply to #53

he said some, not all ;(

<< Comment #58 @ 09:58 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #53

i would :(

<< Comment #29 @ 04:46 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

Kaloos

THIS :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uVJ0OA4Ls fullbright1 picmip16 mapoverbrightbits2 400kbit

thanks btl btw.

<< Comment #30 @ 05:21 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

valvalis - Reply to #29

fullbright 1? no way

<< Comment #32 @ 05:47 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

Six16

ok ive changed my mind..

6+ please

Edited by d3c4y at 05:48 CDT, 29 July 2009

<< Comment #39 @ 07:53 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

Now the high picmip vote is fucked like libertarians in party politics

Lets unite at 6 people

<< Comment #40 @ 12:27 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

.syL

Changed to 6 after watching the vids above, 0 looks unwatchable.

<< Comment #42 @ 13:18 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

TronicGgG '

Basically, this could be free vs premium stream as you need 6/16 for the free stream since the kbit rate is low. Otherwise the premium stream should have enough bandwith to handle a higher amount of details properly.

<< Comment #43 @ 13:32 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #42

The depth impression is quite fucked up with 16... harder to estimate the enemy's distance. I wouldn't want that on a stream.

<< Comment #46 @ 16:30 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

oneroomdisco - Reply to #43

You mean depth perception...

<< Comment #49 @ 05:38 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Aaron - Reply to #43

what difference does it make?

you aint playing...

and if you have trouble judging depth on the current maps in this day and age then you need shooting

Edited by Aaron at 05:39 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #44 @ 14:15 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

By

wata

use simple items too please

<< Comment #48 @ 00:32 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Bluder

yeah after watching nukems videos i changed my vote to 6 aswell.

<< Comment #60 @ 10:05 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

light

same here.. changed to 6 after watching those vids :)

<< Comment #62 @ 10:17 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

hnns

r_picmip 0 (Highest quality): 31% (45)
r_picmip 1: 5.5% (8)
r_picmip 2: 1.4% (2)

-

r_picmip 6 (Simpler textures): 27% (39)
r_picmip 5: 15% (22)
r_picmip 16 (Simplest textures): 15% (21)

55 for high quality, 82 for picmip 5+. I hope they don't misinterpret the poll results.

Edited by hnns at 10:19 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #63 @ 11:37 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o - Reply to #62

i just hope for picmip 0!

<< Comment #64 @ 12:35 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Malice

I dunno what picmip was used during Guard vs Killsen on t7... but it looks worse than the previous settings.

<< Comment #65 @ 12:37 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

hnns - Reply to #64

That was picmip 0. Absolutely horrible, couldn't see a thing.

Edited by hnns at 12:47 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #66 @ 14:07 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

ia

Continuing the theme from my previous post ( http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1727150#pid1727150 ), the average picmip currently voted is

6.84 = [ 0*55+ 43*6 + 25*5 + 16*22 + 8+15 + 16+6 ] / 165.

I'd prefer a high quality config in general (shadows, lightmap, picmip 0, bright green enemies, r_enablepostprocess 1, high geometric detail, cg_simpleitems 0 and SNOW ON SIBERIA), but if the stream is at a low bitrate and will garble the image anyway, picmip 6 is a better choice. With a higher bitrate stream I'd rather see picmip 0, though I play at picmip 6.

Edited by ia_ at 14:10 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #67 @ 14:41 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Aaron

blatantly obvious the flat colours are far better

yet people still want high detail even though it;s pixelated to fuck?

laff.

<< Comment #70 @ 05:42 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

By

bsk

Picmip 6. I can't believe this is even a question!£%$!^ :D

<< Comment #71 @ 20:15 CDT, 6 August 2009 >>

By

gSTRUCTOR '

I disagree with the picmip whoring crew. Youre just specing, the important part is attracting people, release your ego, realize the truth.

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 20:16 CDT, 6 August 2009

<< Comment #72 @ 07:40 CDT, 17 October 2009 >>

By

abso

6

<< Comment #73 @ 07:40 CDT, 17 October 2009 >>

By

abso

6

<< Comment #75 @ 08:05 CST, 1 November 2009 >>

By

Frexuz

6

<< Comment #76 @ 08:48 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

By

therm '

max details would be great ;)

<< Comment #77 @ 08:58 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

By

duumed - Reply to #76

you sure?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1726810#pid1727049

<< Comment #79 @ 09:59 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

By

therm ' - Reply to #77

i mean it would be great to watch this in max det i dont know nothing about streaming and stuff

just make it so it looks good on the stream too ;)

<< Comment #78 @ 09:30 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

By

ggnore

Simple fo sho +1

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