Tom says:
yo
Rob says:
easy mate
Tom says:
not out 2night?
Rob says:
nahh
Tom says:
me neither, just chilling having a beer and surfing utube
Rob says:
aye pretty much doing the same
think I've convinced my mum that her beliefs in god & jesus are bullshit
Tom says:
lol
why would u want to disaprove that to her?
Rob says:
cos it is bullshit
or her thoughts on it at least
Tom says:
if it makes her happy why question it?
Rob says:
ahh
lol
cos it limits her knowledge of the world
basically
read into all sorts of shit about the ancient indians
Tom says:
it depends i think
Rob says:
which I had no clue about until the other day
Tom says:
so until you read a book you didnt have an opinion?
Rob says:
no
until I read these articles, I thought completely different
I thought the Mayans / chinese were the first civilised race
when it comes to religion, I base my thoughts on facts
dont have any "faith" into anything I dont know
although I am 100% certain, that the human race doesn't know everything
and is probably even wrong about some 'facts'
to be fair, christianity is a sham
always has been
so is judaism & islam
hinduism is trippy stoner bollox
buddhism isnt really a religion in that sort of sense
Tom says:
i agree to a point
facts of what we know are probably not correct
eg, the brightest minds thought the mind was flat a couple hundred years ago
Rob says:
nah thats bullshit apparently
Tom says:
or something similar^
alot of examples through history tbh
Rob says:
aye
plenty
scientific FACT = bees cant fly
Tom says:
like bill gates saying 1024bytes would be enough for any body!
but ye lots of examples
Rob says:
some well interesting stuff though
I'd rather make my own opinions based on what I know
hmmm
Tom says:
i have and probably will always beleive in karma
Rob says:
what I "know"
oooh
I can prove to you that karmas bullshit
Tom says:
its the law of averages tbh
Rob says:
not even averages
I thunk this one up when I was stoned
but it makes sense
Tom says:
must be correct then lol
Rob says:
haha
basically
karma = what goes around comes around, right?
Tom says:
no, you do good things, and good things will happen to you
Rob says:
you do bad things to people, bad things will happen to you
Tom says:
ye lol
Rob says:
hmmmm
you = glass half full, me = half empty maybe
Tom says:
ye lol
Rob says:
but anyway
good / bad / whatever
your opinion on what is a good thing, is entirely your opinion
what you see as a good deed, someone else may see as a bad thing
Tom says:
helping the poor for example^
Rob says:
or the way I thunk it, when someone fucks me over, they may not necessarily think of it as a 'bad' thing, but they may even think they're in the right
so although I think "Yeh karma's gonna bite you in the ass bitch" - they don't even realise they've committed a bad deed
UNTIL
I take it into my own hands to fuck them over
Tom says:
well no, because that would be you doing something wrong
2 wrongs dont make a right
Rob says:
haha
well
Tom says:
3wrongs do tho lol
Rob says:
whats your opinion on UFO's?
Tom says:
do you really wanna know?
Rob says:
lol yeh in a nutshell
Tom says:
well, they are us from the future
as are all aliens
Rob says:
hahaha I've had that theory before!!!
Tom says:
kinda makes sense
Rob says:
which means you're gonna love the shit what I've been reading
What if they ARE us
but from the past
not "time-travelling"
Tom says:
well, if they were us from the past, then they "would" be in the future
Rob says:
but basically the human race once had the knowledge to do amazing things, and make what we now regard today as UFO's (flying saucers etc)
Tom says:
but we havent time travelled yet, as we as a human race as still dumb
nah i dont believe that
maybe from like 100mil years ago when aliens landed and taught us shit
Rob says:
nooo not that long ago
Tom says:
ye i dont remember
Rob says:
but there's an argument that we once had the power of nuclear proportions
pretty good arguments too
Tom says:
when?
Rob says:
about 5-10K BC
Tom says:
i find that hard to believe too
again, aliens maybe
Rob says:
a lot of it makes a lot of sense
some of it makes no sense
Tom says:
do you believe in aliens?
Rob says:
I dont believe in humanoid aliens
ie vertical standing
arms/legs etc
Tom says:
hmm
what do they look like then?
Rob says:
haha
no idea
of course its a possibility
i'm not dismissing it at all
but then thinking about evolution etc
Tom says:
i think there is a 99% probability there is life on other planets
Rob says:
the odds of an alien race resembling us even remotely is pretty low
Tom says:
i know
Rob says:
yeh 100% theres intelligence somewhere
but also
Tom says:
thats why i think aliens that ppl have seen are us from the future
Rob says:
these ancients could travel to other planets too apparently
Tom says:
did you watch stargate or sometihng?
Rob says:
hahahaahah
tell u what
you read the passage I read
its a BIG fucking passage
took me a few hours in total
Tom says:
il skip then
Rob says:
and repeats itself more than I liked, but theres plenty of hugely interesting shit on there
before I give you the link though
just one little example of how what I've accepted as fact because of my education, is essentially bollox
Tom says:
are t
you stoned?
Rob says:
nope
Tom says:
ok, just making sure
Rob says:
haha
Tom says:
il show you what im listening too, you wont like it i bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoHzuLY1lcM&feature=related
i would nail her so hard^
Rob says:
you heard of the Iron Pillar of Delhi ?
Tom says:
nope
sounds like gaundi's penis
Rob says:
it shouldnt exist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2pmp66KqcQ
little documenary on it
only about 5 mins
pretty good
Tom says:
ok il watch in a sec
Rob says:
but anyway
the really hardcore interesting shizzle
Tom says:
watch that vid^
watching now
Rob says:
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Vimanas.htm
That article explains "Vimanas" ie indian spaceships
theres more articles explaining the cultures n shit
a dickload, in fact if you go into content
s
Tom says:
ok, i watched
not that impressed, they could of easily dated the iron, unless they got the date from the writing
Rob says:
ok... in this article, look out for:
- The reference to a nuclear weapon, and a heat seeking weapon
- Instructions how to build these crafts
- Indian King & his 9 wise men
Tom says:
dude, your reading shit off the internet.. people make shit up
Rob says:
aye
thats what I figure
so I've dug a fair bit deeper
& it seems these idea's are more popular than I ever knew
I'm not saying its fact though - I'm just saying its v interesting
& makes a lotta sense
Tom says:
dude, if they had nuclear etc like 10k BC, why aint we flying round in cars etc
Rob says:
the article pretty much explains that
Tom says:
i wont bother reading
Rob says:
haha
it sheds a lotta light on your UFO theory anyway
Tom says:
until we meet aliens, i wont believe it
alot of sightings at area 51, just turned out to be B52's
Rob says:
another thing
all these theories are based on translations of Sanskrit texts
& The nazi's apparently sent all sorts of patrols to Tibet & India in search of more of these sanskrit texts
Tom says:
sounds like return to castle wolfenstien
Rob says:
A lot of these texts exist today and translations are widely available
and can obv make your own opinions on their meanings
Tom says:
and this is shaping your desicions of god etc?
Rob says:
hahaha nah not at all
always had my own 'religious' opinion
Tom says:
its like the bible, tales of fiction
Rob says:
since god & church etc was shoved down my throat from a v young age
Tom says:
im pretty sure we probably first met at church
or alteast our parents did
Rob says:
aye v possible
Tom says:
did you go church in narb?
Rob says:
yeh
Tom says:
same
il ask my mum 2mrw night
Rob says:
went to a Catholic secondary school too
Tom says:
i'll bet you thats where they met
Rob says:
tell u what
Tom says:
my parents were church goers until i was like 10 maybe
wonder why they stopped going
Rob says:
whats ur opinion on the seige on Troy?
pretty famous historic event
Tom says:
ye
i dont know enough about it to make an opinion tbh
Rob says:
but If I was to say to you they went in in a big wooden elephant
you'd say "no, it was a horse"
Tom says:
ye, trojan horse, but could of been a donkey for all i knwp
Rob says:
haha
but you've heard the story
its a good one
Tom says:
ye think so
Rob says:
and you have no reason to contest it
Tom says:
its a myth
Rob says:
lol
no its not
Tom says:
he war is among the most important events in Greek mythology
Rob says:
the sacking of troy led to the founding of rome
Tom says:
mythology is the word ^
thats from wiki
just like the bible dude
Rob says:
kindof
the bible has been taken outta context though
its meant for good
and a lotta people take good out of it
Tom says:
ye i agree, 10 commandments etc
Rob says:
some for the right reasons (ie, seeing the stories for what they are) some for the wrong reasons (like my mum, taking some of the stories literally)
but at the end of the day, if it makes you happy, and makes you live your life well, then fair play
Tom says:
agreed
Rob says:
but that isnt what the bible was originally intended to do
Tom says:
fuck if i was that ignorant to the truth id be a happier person
Rob says:
nahhh
you'd be a retard
Tom says:
lol
Rob says:
retards are happy i guess
but still retards
Tom says:
i wish i was ignorant sometimes
Rob says:
human nature to question everything
Tom says:
yea, depends on the person tho