Probably working on other games.

porn sites... they are watching all work day porn fotos! :(

the id ql dev team is quite small, so it takes long time in order to have something *NEW*

The coders and webcoders are working on restoring the leaderboards and adding private servers and all that comes along with said premium package. Separate coders are finishing up the Linux and Mac versions. Mappers are making new maps, both for playing and training. Most all of which will release soon.

good to hear :) thanks for posting
still think it would be good for you and the community if u did some news, like posting screens of upcoming maps etc

just one mroe thing, what is arqon doing? is he working on ingame features we know from cpma?

agreed, i think people on this site are more interested on what is arqon doing :P

ttimo told me something along the lines of he is only involved with netcode and competitive settings

aka ingame features we know from cpma :P

nice, a premium package.

How about adding ztn so the game is fun to play.

how about stopping ztn whine?

not gonna happen

Why, the map is better than all current duel maps, so how about now.

jesus christ man. Just LET IT GO.

When there are betters maps, maybe.

How about not adding old maps (like ztn/hub) and actually moving the fuck on to something newer and better.

Present something newer better worth a ztn replacement in the mappool, in the meantime lets have some solid ztn action.

Write that idea down and mail it to 2001 when it hadn't been made a million times.

what about fixing the game first ? ?

Nothing on fixing the terrible netcode?

You've lost my interest.

[+] for you, noble sir!

:)

Will the private servers also have basic functionality like lockteams, coachinvite, timeouts etc?

my guess is they might :P

(edited to add: if you think timeouts are "basic functionality", then you should be grateful for just how spoilt the q3 community has been over the years, because stuff like that sure as hell isn't common in MP games...)

finally the man has spoken.

you never change do you? with ql being what it is (an updated baseq3 from '99) we can expect these features to be included.

what's your problem? he's right.

we expect these kind of features because the game is freaking t e n years old and has these kind of features for almost this long. the last 3(?) ut releases were accompanied with the same expectations so it's not just quake either.

... and did any of the last 3 UT's meet this expectation of getting this? Or are your expectations typically too much for any commercial game, and are only realized by modders?

get a job with id already mate

actually yes they did in this regard (even if it needed a patch or two). but this is different because i don't understand why i should pay a monthly fee for a basic q3 feature in ql.

PCG: What’s going to convince the existing Quake III community to make the move to Quake Live?

JC: That’s not necessarily our primary objective.

So... play Q3.

It's not a basic feature. It was a competitive mod feature.

Nice.

Cheers for update! :>

What is that premium package thing? Also, how about an option to switch to a server browser similar to ASE? I honestly can't stand the way its now, dont really need to see a pic of the map.

You can already do that with ASE, just write down the server ip you connect to (shown in the Awaiting Connection screen) and add it to ASE. You can see see ping and map name, haven't tried to connect like that though.

The problem with using ASE is that the QL servers go up and down based on demand, so a server on a particular port might not be up the next time you check.

Connecting to a server from an external app would also be a little tricky since (I believe) you need to do XMPP authentication with the server using a value, quakelive.xaid, from the QL site.

*edit: After you connect to a server you can use cl_currentServerAddress to get the IP:port

Thats a horrid workaround.

Marty put up a good description of the premium package @ http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11016 . Among other things, the premium package will let people spawn custom servers.

If you're using Firefox, you can use my QL Alt Server Browser script to show a tabular server list.

Nice, good to hear. Good luck with it, it's going good so far!

=)

Sounds good Sync! I was wondering though is ztn and hub gonna be added too ? for us who don't have quake3 and can only play ql! i'd love to see those 2 maps back asap!:)

- removed some awards
- removed leaderboard
- tuned the match making a bit
- renewed the "duel detective"
- small map fixes
- added old maps that nobody plays
- balanced ca
- added server locations
- fixed some bugs"

why not add old maps that everyone wants to play?

There's dm6, dm13, and umm...umm...ummmmmm....

ztn aero what are you, stupid?

I thought you meant to correct him, my bad.

Are there any maps currently being used in QL that were previously user made maps? Or are they all still ID created? Don't go all nemecel on us, man.

c(-_-)__-!-

You will have to explain to me one day why people like Dm13.

- Horrific Quake1'ish gothic design that renders movement cumbersome / Check

- One sided weapon placement / Check

- Fucking lava and one way out teleporter / Check

- Made by Id Software 10 years ago when they had no clue how duel maps should be done / Check

- Stupid doorway archs that prevent any sort of movement / Check

- The staircase near the LG / Yellow in Dm13 is like a huge piece of wtf / Check


Honestly, the only reason I see this map still being played is because old schoolers like to keep their ego and ownage in check.
DM13 and NoDM 9 have nothing good in terms of dual maps in the 200x era....


PS. In before all retards from Vq3 reply that it's a good map and I should just learn to endure...

No idea about what it's like in QL but apart from the teleporter thing (Which is terrible) and the spawn points (shockingly bad) the map is really well balanced.

Movement is pretty smooth once you get good and the restrictive nature of some of the doorways is good, not everywhere should be a speed lane to the next item.

I agree that speed is not needed in all maps for sure.
Just never understood why people keep default ID maps for 10 years.

To my mind, the only reason to keep such bad designs is mostly pushed by old players who like to keep their advantage.

Even DM6 can be considered shit but I won't step there just yet :)

This is not meant to be a disrespect to original ID mappers either, they did what they felt was best 10 years ago. The game has changed and map design should change accordingly.

I guess it all comes down to opinion in the end....it just sucks that we keep a map that at least 70% of the community hates and/or refuses to play.

dm6....... doesn't work, can't work and will never work.

It's by no means perfect but I think you've yet to see dm13 for what it it/can be (Again, note I have not played QL version!).

dm13 is okay. fwiw, if I had raised my standards, I would have listed none of QL's maps.

I think getting a lock down on dm13 is more fun than any other map - even more than ztn.

Pfffffffff

Design - use picmip.

Weapon placements - nice imo, every weapon on the map is useful and they are hardly clustered together.

Lava and tele - personally I feel the lava does too much damage, but its no biggie, its the same for both players and its very rewarding to knock down your opponent. About the tele I have come to like the new placement cause it makes the RA weaker. Also two way teles can be very bad.

10 years ago - yawn, sure I would like completely new maps too but since there is one good new map available right now I dont see anything wrong with bringing back old great ones.

Movement - learn to move around the map, most archways can be jumped through useing +movedown.

Staircase - use the right weapon and it wont be a problem for you.

I think there is at least 25 health too much in the LG/YA room though.

hell yeah, I'd love the old t2 back with the imba RL and SG now ;o

not to mention hub and ztn, but those are another story

How about adding maps that everyone would play, that are better than all new maps combined? (ztn).

MATCH UP SYSTEM PLEASE WITH RANKING !!!!!!!

.

triple bfg will be good

quadruple rail ftw

i'm serious. 3 parallel projectiles for bfg, 35 dg for one projectile, high speed, slow recharge, small splash radius - it can be new weapon

I have a weapon like that in my pants thanks.

clap clap clap

how abt triplegauntlet for tripledextrouses?

gauntlet is competitive weapon, not big fucking gun

duel maps! :)

The private servers thingie SyncE talks about is a linux binary? Will i be able to host an unranked server? so not to ping over 200ms -.- wishful thinking maybe

no its not.

:<

You're damn right their working on.

*your damn

Your damn, his damn, damn ist doch für alle da

Weine nicht wenn der Regen fällt - damn damn, damn damn.

Major lags no stats/match recording working etc

Yet ID fails to respond to any of the million threads

Well they dont respond or say anything really Sync sometimes drop a post around but thats no use really as its usually on a lame thread


No disrespect to the dev team but any form of ''support'' is seriously lacking

I'm getting the major lag too, but mine I think is from the all digital switch earlier this year. Any game that is ping sensitive feels like poop lately. This is probably largely due to my cable connection, and me living in a suburb, but still. It sucks. Makes me sad to have to play lesser games just because the netcode isn't important in games like tf2, WoW, CoD4, etc.

they claimed to have balanced CA? lol

No Nukm did. =p

This would be a wet dream coming true:

(in 1on1)

You click on a search-for-game-with-catchy-name button. The system pairs you up with the most suitable opponent, taking latency into account. Rather weaker/better opponent than a latency above 10ms. There should be a decent mappool:

dm6 t4 t7 t6 dm13 ztn

When the system finds your opponent, the game starts (or you press a button to join the server, whatever). A random map is chosen. It shouldn't be possible to see what map it is before you connect to the server and load the map. Noone else should be able to connect to this server.

When both players entered the server, there is a 45-60 sec forced countdown which can be cut down to 5 sec if both players are ready. The main point is that the match is going to happen and if someone quits during countdown, well then it counts as forfeit. This is done to make sure that people won't quit just because they dislike the map.

When the match is over and syncerror lost, the server dies and you jump back into lobby.

Gamestats are saved and separated from normal gamestats.

I would seriously consider donating skåne to idsoftware if this happened, or didnt happen.

/sleepy ramblings

Why separate stats?

Hmm thinking about it, separate stats would be bad since they should be close to 50% for most anyway. It could also encourage a lot of good fakenickers to try to get as nice stats as possible, which could lead to good players creating new accounts often. That would make the whole idea/matchmaking system worse.

I take back what I said about stats.

edit: for clarity.

I think this is a good idea. If you wanted you could even do the WC III idea where you can veto a certain map if you REALLY don't want to play it (I advocate this). Other than that good idea.

Hell yeah, also make t6 unvoteable in 1on1, stop the madness!

I like this idea , and the maps are good too. Maybe aero and t2 would be nice aswell. But what really bothers me is the instagib unlagged feeling anyone? Or is this something complex which cannot be changed in a small update... :o

Yes, and in addition remove the normal server browser for duels, so that people would use such a feature.

The problem that you then create is that you can't play with friends(arrange matches). So make it like WC3 and SC, that you first create a gameroom to assemble the people in and then fire the server up. If you could optionally password protect the gamerooms aswell then you'd have your private servers.

I also think id should add some more community features. Like chatrooms and being able to leave messages at friends' profiles. Such things can make a community more lively quite easily (I think)

(Quake live: A Quake community portal)

When I heard about Quake Live, I thought for sure that Quake 4 maps would be included as well as Quake 3 maps.
Any one else liek the Quake 4 maps?

Only monsoon.

and i think thats one too many ;o

its funny.
q3 players dont want q4 maps in ql
q4 players dont want q3 maps in ql

Actually there are 3 q3 maps in ql so far so it will just be fair to put 3 q4 maps into ql :)

My suggestion: monsoon, phrantic, placebo

Oh I guess the q3 players wont have their advantage anymore and will whine but who cares :D

Yes to monsoon and placebo, fuck no to phrantic:D

neither monsoon nor phrantic nor placebo were made by id software.

so, no. not gonna happen.

yay and NO ZTN.
muahahahaha \o/ \o/ \o/

it's the q3 engine, so you expect them to put q4 maps in first? fascinating

this should just point out what a mess ID have done by putting dm6 into ql. Its just unfair.

Otherwise I would ask for dust2 :D

You do realize that quake live is an updated version of quake3 right? It certainly isn't a new game.

I dont consider ql to be an q3 update. Its sth like q3 arena² thats why its called ql and not q3 arena anymore.
As I know the intention was to lure new players.... but I dont think ID wants to lure new players with an old, updated game.
If thats the case it is an instant fail!

Why is it unfair? Does it really take you longer than a day to learn a map? If so, you have far worse problems to worry about.

wow you have to be a natural talent for finding ALL angles in 1 single day or I am just stupid. I guess you are a genius...

The fact that you think it would take a genius to learn a map that quickly already tells me that you have no business in this discussion.

yay! I am so stupid... I cant learn a map in 1 single day. I cant gain all those map tactics, rail spots (angles), specific jumps and so on which took a decade to develope on dm6. I am thinking of ALL GAME MODES for 1 single map. dm6

yes I am too stupid.

Don't be so hard on yourself, mate. Somebody has to do the dishes.

The only id-owned map I think would be nice to have would be Lost Fleet... and then we'd have to play test it heavily to see if it needed any major changes to be fun/good in QL.

Actually I take that back, I just got an idea.

i hope the idea is not adding crouch slide :p

i hope it is

q4 died for a reason

it died because q4 sucks at release time. Unfortunaley this was the time q4 got the biggest attention to lure players.
crouchslide is still one of the best things in q4!

it died because it sucked alltimes.

Good, cause lost fleet didnt stay in the mappools for a reason...

Contact ztn and hubster? Nice idea m8!

do another community mapping competition or use some of the submitted map from last time? :)

DM3 - "The Abandoned Base" (from QW)? :)

dm1
dm2
dm3
dm4
dm5
dm6

k thx

Skeleton Crew (Great FFA/CA map)!

I think all the Q4 maps should be worked towards being included!

didnt see your post when was making mine =)

Q4DM11 - Skeleton Crew is good map and by the way lunaran is great mapmaker. i think you can hire him at least for some remakes.
if you will remake q4dm11 i think pro_q4dm11 items layout is good as a first approximation

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22698

thanks for the update!

sounds promising

sounds great! :)

Force team even will be nice, waiting until a match is over to shuffle while the teams can't be corrected.

You can change teams mid game you know...

They won't. That makes them loose their precious victory in stats.

unless they win with the other team?

no usally they just dont listen at all
typical public server behaviour...

I dont care about stats, so I change when I see unfairness. This way I got some decent games with quad rushing and so on. I didnt expect ql tdm to be soo much fun.

By the time the switch is needed the other team has pretty much the loss secured, and, in any case, staying with the unbalance is a guaranteed victory.

they changed the dnf crap caused by team change