lol

might catch a railer off guard. still hittable. does the added momentum carry a risk of overshooting the ra and falling down when getting railed up the backside?

demo please?

ohhhh..don´t be sad if you can´t do it

that shit was on walter's youtube ( :>? )

well the quality is shit for sure... never use a capture card... ;<

News: ESR

why not major?

it's whazma jump. please get it right.

I'm sorry for the incorrect title lol. My memory is about as bad as my skill in quake :(... but yeah I'll fix it.

useless till used in competition against cypher 1v1 dreamhack grandfinal last second and until there is a 200 comment thread argument about it

I love this comment more than my family.

why you hate your family?

It's funny how in ql new moves are always "useless", in cpm/wsw/qw people always find new moves and different stuff to reach the same goal, a red armor for instance. That's how restricted ql is, regarding movement, at let's be honest, the most awesome stuff in these games is movement, not like midairs are quakish exclusive.

What was the last move that got called useless that isn't the baksteen jump?

the baksteen direct rocket *

Thought-out and adaptable tactics, positining along with clever timing/control of items and dodging is what gets me going and not some fancy move that in this case would be useless since most of the damage dealt taking that RA would be exit-damage anyway.

Over the years there's been very few specific moves in OSP/QL that have been either awesome or game breaking - if there's ever been one?

it's all dodging and aim;

"- if there's ever been one? "
apart the "basic" ones, such as b2r or ztn plasma climb, probably not.

*jamerio time!*

both are useless... plasma climb is too slow, and you are easy target for enemy... also its easier to fail it than normal rocket jump...

b2r is like uber bad... you gain maybe 2 seconds, and you dont gain ammo boxes/25 health...

*end of jamerio time!*

dude i was a millionaire at 16 years old but I couldn't afford a keyboard nor a pc until like 30, which is why I lost 50 to -2 on my first and last lan match

dont forget the bafta

I concur.

its called the whazma jump. (i was there when whaz was trying it out for the first time).

ps: whoops didnt notice deathinfire's post.

Yeah I get that now aheh... I just remembered it as whaza... just forgot the M :X

Saw this movement in osp many years ago... nothing new.

Better than Bakcsteens.

probably more useful

or less useless

useless until lamerio approves it

curious, is this something that can be done consistently or more like the RJ from shards to RA?

Definitely not something that can be done consistently :p.. a nade jump to red is easier lol.

coll. now do the 1 rj from rail shards to ra

Ok

Is that possible?

Actually yes, I have seen a couple of Russian players online attempting this, saw it successfully done ONCE. I would like to see somebody recreate this consistently.

Well then... guess you'll see it successfully done again, uploading it as of now. (Unless you meant done in an actual game... that's different lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZrRsxrjT10&feature=youtu.be

does the usual rocket jump script/alias work? like +attack;jump or something

Ok, I did it, now wait on my channel, I've started uploading it.

nice!

Is whaz really the first to ever do this? I have a hard time imagining this not being done back in 2003 or something.

I don't know man lol...

PG climbing was way more difficult in Q3. There was no way in hell to climb "normally" using just 2 cells, whereas in QL it's a piece of cake, so probably you wouldn't get enough altitude to reach the RA ledge while attempting the whazma jump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdrPMWxFQas

Humilation. :D

staged, opponent even named dummy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntw0zV-xv30