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Surprising sponsor but good for them nonetheless. Hope these roccat devices include headphones or something and they're not forced to change mice a few months b4 the event.

exactly what i've thought [+]

yeah i hope they re not forced to use roccat mice because changing a mouse requiers much more practice time.

fazz asked cooller on his stream if he's using a roccat mouse, cooller replied that he doesn't. Means that he's still playing with his zowie EC2 evo cl, which is good news tbh, because he managed to beat both evil and cypher with that mouse. He's in a good dynamic with his current setup, so would be bad for him to change again.

however if he can play with roccat's headphones or keyboard, or let's say even mousepad, then it's all ok because changing keyboard and mousepad (i guess he's using zowie mousepad) doesn't requier as much practice as changing mouse to get used to it. Also i'm sure you can find a roccat mousepad that feels almost exactly the same as his current zowie's one :).

so yeah, looking forward to see then with roccat headphones and/or roccat keyboard/mousepads and wishing good luck to them for quakecon ;)

link to cooller's stream pls? :(

http://www.twitch.tv/deliberatemurder — as co-caster (with Cooke or Green)

http://www.twitch.tv/cooller — Cooller's personal channel

thankyou!

he streamed on that channel? or is that just some channel under the name cooller

It's official (I mean _real_) Cooller's account on Twitch, proof. Afaik he probably will stream soon :)

ahh

You guys really think a mouse will affect results, even if they get it months before the event?:D Imho getting used to a new mouse takes like 3 days tops, and Roccat doesn't sell crap...

3 days ? wow. Impressive.

BTW : 3 mn for cooller to rape u with any sort of mouse.
:-)

if the sensor is the same and the shape very similar then yeah you can get used to it within a week+

but if shape and sensor (and if the mouse got anglesnapping etc) are different then you need A LOT of time to get back to your regular shape

at least for me :)

the_cooller smiles

"most of the players on the team will also play with ROCCAT devices"

ouch

Why is that ouch?

please tell me.

because roccat is sponsoring them to go...?

Because the new equipment might effect their play. Hopefully it's just headphones and not a mouse.

It's not like they can't mod their mice...

easy pete, maybe they'll just use headphones and / or mouse pads (these are most visible on cameras anyway)

good news everyone

Good news.

I have a feeling that cooler is going to take this one..

shoutouts to roccat and all the people who donated before them

GJ ROCCAT! Hope for best qcon :D

ROCCAT.

It's time to change good gear to X-mas tree junk.


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ouch gg

tbh roccat kone pure military, kone xtd optical and taito are pretty damn good

Taito..


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taito is good if you enjoy moving your mouse through sludge

\>(:<)/ RAFF RAFF \>(:<)/

good news obliviously but zowie is not gonna be that happy :< ....

Well its not like they sponsored COOLLER to fly across the world to play Quake, so why would he stay with them?

Not to mention that there's nothing to suggest their relationship has been tarnished somehow.

Why didn't Zowie do that tho with Cooller in the team?
Zowie fail

Yeah... probably his contract with Zowie has already expired.

Nope, just heard in the interview that he still has a contract with Zowie.

ive only one question. will cooller start streaming :D ?

soon |]

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Someone needs to donate $1000 (that's not Roccat)

Nice joke.

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will the new cooller mouse be a roccat

the obligatory roccat devices might as well become 102's achilless' heel, unless they're allowed to use mices and keys they've been used to,
maybe even only mices will suffice - it's a kick in the balls when one is obligated to change a mouse he was getting used to for years, and not long before the tourney, I might add

Quakers getting sponsored \o/
Chapeau ROCCAT!

Shit yeah Roccat

that mouse looks sick!

Yeah. Looks like a 10y old would be all over it.

+1

Hel yeah it does look awesome

Why am I not surprised?

That mouse looks like it's made for people with large hands. I will never understand why any tech industry would eliminate 50% of their market (females).

I doubt females represent 50% of the market (people interested in gaming mice). But in any case, having one mouse fit for large hands doesn't mean they don't have other mice fit for smaller hands. Or should they ignore people with large hands instead?

Anybody have this mouse? I mean it looks kinda "go go gadget mouse" type. I see a braided cord tho which is nice. Kinda happy with my death adder right now.

At any rate congrats to 102 this is great news for them. \o/

to me it seems to have the shape of the logitech mx518

Nice one Roccat!

ITS HAPPENING

HYPE.

Don't worry about them having to play with Roccat-Mice - they can win with "just a mouse" (Cooller).

They should go with stickers like Rapha on his WMO and Steel Series.

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hum can't think of anything but:
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omg, im playing facy song right now for this

Where can one find the videos for those animations?

http://esreality.com/post/2443459/re-faceit-s...onship-mo/ @ 2:55

inb4 roccat best mouse for quake ever

Cooller is Happy |]

fazz, on his stream, asked cooller if he's using a roccat mouse now, cooller replied that he doesn't ("i dont" is what he said exactly :))

only Latrommi is using one so far afaik cause his g400 broke and he's not doing bad with it since the 1st day heh http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/matches/la...001c/tdm/1

New Logitech tends to break down.

yes i asked latrommi in quakelive and he said he's using roccat kone pure military

link?

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gogoog cooller and latrommi!!!

since when is cooller's nick spelled that way?

He prefers writing it like that himself

always wondered why fearzzz is not part of 102

Would be unfair.

yea, I think Latrommi and Fearzzz on the same team would be to OP.

Afair he used to be.

h8m3 - press relations manager for 102

h8m3 - knows english for 102 )))

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fuck this is so exciting, much <3 for roccat now!

nice roccat!

and btw, for all you naysayers, the kone pure military is one of the very few close-to-perfection mice after the firmware patch.

even for quack?

yes, if the shape suits you it's a great mouse for fast FPS :]

Is there a skates patch though? :)

(Don't get me wrong, KPM is pretty great and I replaced my trusty Diamondback with it after years of trying shitty Zowie/Steelseries mice, which means it's the only mouse in 5+ years I recommend. Still, the plastic skates are utter shit, mouse moves like in tar.)

i don't know about that hehe. guess it depends on the pad, glides well on the old goliathus control. :]

Too bad it's a brick.

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Roccat is very cool for sponsoring quake players. I hope both parties get a good deal out of this.

Cooke confirmed that its not compulsory for them to use roccat hardware and that cooller is sticking to his zowie gear.

Latrommi has started using his roccat stuff and apparently really likes it.

cool, thanks roccat

Good news , Roccat you are the best ! ;)

Looks like 102 might move to another game (Overwatch?) after QuakeCon.
"If the game is made by Blizzard, it's gonna be on top anyway. Just because of Blizzard."

SC community would disagree.

SC2 is top RTS.
:(
Old Blizz is dead.

Yeah. Amazing games like SC2 and, of course, Diablo 3 topest MMO of all times...

cooller said Dirty Bomb in his 125FPS interview.

do you people think 3 months is not enough to adapt to a mouse? lol esr, be serious.


basiclly we got a qcon winner, great move roccat.

I sure hope that is true! Not many things would make me happier :)

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Then you live a pretty blessed life out there.

Sorry should have added: gaming and QL related (QuakeCon).

But life isn't too bad here in Australia. Except my family and most of my friends are in Europe, so that sucks a lot...

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Yeah it didnt look good. I'd like to think they can adapt in the months until Qcon and figure ctf out

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102 is getting beat so badly at ctf its ridiculous, the scores are like a div2 team vs div1. unless they are totally experimenting or something but I doubt it.

Obviously it's their mices fault.

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Are people really that afraid that players cant adapt to a new mice in THREE damn months. Jesus christ.
NHL players changes brands of their skates, sticks and helmets. But you dont see them starting to perform subpar just becouse of that.

But hey, roccat is doing something great for the quake community so WE HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING to complain about and gettings those precious [+]'s from our cynical spacewasting maggots over at ESR.

Im getting sick of this community.

Jesus fucking christ stop the whine.
Holy shit.

Thanks, cheers! o/

Turns out they can can choose to use their own mouse anyway.

A mouse is a more sophisticated input device than skates or sticks. It is more comparable to a musician switching his instrument. So yea if they were forced to change all of their gear it might influence their performance. Apparently they are not so theres no problem anyway.

The new 102 logo with Roccat branding looks surprisingly good!

From marketing POV, maybe this move by Roccat won't increase their sales, but oh boy how much confidence it gives current owners that we made a good choice! Thanks Roccat, love you!

maybe this move by Roccat won't increase their sales

maybe if they released a mouse called the "Roccat Launcher" it'd be popular with quakers? wmo shape + 3310 sensor

MAKE IT HAPPEN ROCCAT

lol

And 70 g max, no side buttons and no braided cord.


Won't happen.

Holy shit yeah.

A man can dream though :(

I didn't have the courage to mention japanese Omron switches and 4 small feet as well.

+1 on the switches, any benefit to 4 small feet over 3 medium-sized ones tho? Purely curious.

Smaller surface -> less friction.

Makes sense, never thought of that before.

Also, 4 points of support tends to be more stable (and evenly balanced) than 3, even if one of those 3 is a big one.

The size of the surface doesn't affect friction.

All right.

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Good for them.

Why would you want a mouse with bad cord and no side buttons? Didn't make sense 10 years ago, not to mention now.

What I'd like is a short (but normal width) mouse for fingertip grip. I don't think anything like that ever existed, all the gaming mice are for claw/palm grip, with those long and wide backs :(

(my KPM included, it's also heavy and barely moves, and to think all the mice I've tried in the past 5 years were worse says a lot about the market)

I don't want mouse with bad cord hence I don't want a braided one. Heavy, bulky and makes the final product more expensive for no beneficial reason (besides being more "durable", which is not an issue if you are smarter than a cross-eyed mutant).

Best cord ever is the Diamondback 3G's. Thin, kind of rigid and ULTRA light.


If there's an extra button somewhere, the first thing I do with it is to unbound it for good.
Since I don't use more than 2 buttons + wheel like ever, for me, it's just a total waste of microswitches (which are added to the weight too) and extra (completely unjustified) bucks.

I <3 purist, ultra-lightweight mice.

Since I've migrated straight from a Diamondback 3G to a KPM, let me just say its braided cord looks thicker, but is lighter and softer (bends easier). Maybe it touches more desk area because it's less stiff than DB3G's, but it still has less drag and that's exactly because it's braided.

But for sure it can't be more durable. The braid will wear thin with time imo.

Best cable I've seen was in the E-3lue Cobra. Unusable as a mouse but oh man the cable is great! Lighter and softer than Diamondback's AND KPM's, not braided but the rubber is carved so it has the low area of contact with the desk without the added cost or lower durability. So yeah, in the end braided cables are an expensive gimmick because there's easier way to make a cable better than Diamondback's without the added cost.


Considering Apple used to use mice with only _one_ button for 20+ years, you're nowhere near a purist. You want a mouse with at least 2 extra buttons and a heavy wheel mechanism. And you're a purist? Please :)

OTOH, I can't believe anyone can even use the Internet without the side buttons in 2015. And since 5-button mice start at $4, I can't believe the extra switches add even a single buck :)

I had 18 (good) gaming-grade mouse so far (not considering the ones I had for test purposes only), including the DB 3G, as well as several mice with braided cord.
3G prevails easy. Super-light rigidness ftw.


Calling the 1 (ONE) button Apple crap a "mouse" (not even mentioning its shitty sensor and shape) is a bit strong for my dictionary. : D So yeah, I'm a purist. All Hail MX300. +Kinzu v1 & Razer Salmosa.


I'm perfectly fine browsing 106 tabs (exact value, not over-exaggerating) without any extra mouse buttons. Never ever used them, never I will. And believe me, extra microswithches adds extra money (since it costs $$$ for the manufacturer and you won't get anything for free besides the air you are breathing now - but that as well will change sooner or later) and extra weight - as well as extra things to unbound.
Why would you buy a minibus if you are always traveling alone without much luggage? Just buy a GT targa. :>

I always unbind sidebuttons. I can't actually think of a single mouse I've used whereby I wouldn't have liked it more if it didn't have sidebuttons.

Great news, thx Roccat :)

if they play ctf they will going to lose

Do you not even read what you just said, let me correct it im my way.

if they play ctf they will lose

He's Polish, man. Step off. Also, hi V1g, <3

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QcK or Taito?

http://strawpoll.me/4090357

Allsop XL.

I use an Allsop XL at work with my Magic Mouse, and when I come home and play on my PC...with a QcK, all I can think about is how I'd rather be using my Allsop.

QcK -> work

Allsop -> home

F*ck yeahhhhhhh!!!

Well, now I don't feel so bad for getting my donation refund back (overcharged). :)

Glad to see Team 102 get a sponsor. However, I'm not celebrating until they get their VISAs.

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Sad that Ash isn't a part of the team. He streams so much and seems like such a strong player. I hope one day he will be able to compete at Qcon.

tdm fav

I'm not so sure about that at all tbh.

CTF: it's most likely they gonna loose (possibly hard) even with 3 months of intensive play, they arent gonna backup the lack of 10years of exp that easily.

TDM: they CLEARLY have a chance to do very good but that will be the most disputed mod with duel.

Duel: Same, i dont think cooller or pavel would have a chance against rapha / dahang / cypher. If cooller plays his "best ever 100% absolute last form" then why not but the probability is unlikely, imho.

Tl;dr: They for sure gonna have some fun playing, with great competition and the chance to travel to Dallas blabla but it's not gonna be easy for them at all in any mod (tdm included) and they for sure will get a run for "their" money.

nah, ez win

Great to see them going! Roccat Kone Pure Military is the one I settled with after buying 5 mice last year... sensor, shape and functionality is great. is small and pretty light. But would need a better grip imo. I use some glue-like grip-stuff that is meant for giving grip to hockey sticks :) not the most practical tho!

I might become roccat PR person... but i found this K1llsen comment from 2014:

"just tried the Roccat Kone Pure few weeks ago, it think it's a very good mouse to use the claw way. not to heavy, not to big, and the sensor felt pretty good too, very similar to the g9x laser maybe even better.

Note that Military edition (kpm) is the updated version with better sensor and 80 % the size of the version K1llsen is talkIng about. As said, Latrommi is using the KPM. The shape is not for everyone tho.

replace 421 with fearzzz and you get the perfect tdm team.

also maybe pavel for cas, cause pavel is more a duel player than tdm

please... did you fucking saw 421's dodging and rl on lan or pavel's coldblooded timing and execution? all this talk is nonsensical. 102 played together for the past year or two with that squad in this semi dead game. if anyone from russian speaking lineup could achieve the top at TDM (at least) @qc2015 - it's probably them, simply due to experience.
not to mention, that this kind of talk is very disrespectful towards 421 or pavel, who are both awesome team players and both have tons of experience in tdm. it's a team mode, individual skill of a player can't determine even remote success of the team at whole, especially when it all comes down to a serious competion on a lan.

When playing ctf pickups, cas NEVER touches flag. I mean NEVER. He just dancing around it and kill anyone who spawns.
He basically have no idea what to do besides killing enemies.
Cas for ctf? lol at you.

cas actually pretty legit at ctf. you need a player like that in a team imo, with the idea of holding enemy team inside their base

go play tdm plz

wish I could...

it's called trolling

I tuned in to the moscow lan stream and was surprised to see the following:

From the 2013 Latrommi interview, it should give some insight to their TDM game and teamplay in general

Can you tell us what is your role in the deliberate murder team, and how you see your Team DeathMatch gamestyle in general ? dem0n said in an interview that deliberate murder play TDM like duel, putting a lot of effort into timing everything, etc. Do you agree with that ?

Well in general, I still don’t know why we are strong. I was hoping it is because of our teamplay, but in fact it is all because of personal skill. Let me speak about the last lineup: me, pavel_, Cooller and 421. As I said couple of questions before, I like when everybody knows where he should be in order to get the full synergy. And first of all it depends on roles. For example, we can't put 421 on the LG/RA because he is pure support. That's why the analysis begins from the definition of the roles.

In my opinion we need to have one supporter, one carry, one heavy damager and one tank. Supporter is the man who does a very specific job by helping mates on every position. He gotta know how to do it even without big stack and he should deal lots of damage with any weapon, especially with shotgun and machinegun (421). Tank is the one who knows how to play without absorbing any free damage (pavel_, coolleR). Heavy damager - the man who can deal big amount of damage for the short term and who is rushing all available items (Latrommi).
As you can see, we don’t have any carry, i.e. simple railbot. The difficulty is that 2 tanks and heavy damager don’t get along on one standard map where we have 1 red, 1 mega and 2 yellows. These roles can play with stack only. So the most difficult thing was finding the right positioning for me, pavel_ and coolleR in order to not disturb each other :D, and at the same time we needed to play like a team…

In 2 weeks we found the way we should play: on each map we have the man who is playing alone (for himself), for example shaft on Limbus, rail on Purgatory, LG/YA on Dreadful Place. And his aim is to collect all items on his road and do cycles. Then we have the “blood area” - the place with 1 major weapon like rail or LG and which is near to red. There are 2 players and they run together most of the time. Plus we have a man who connects those two positions in order to get the synergy. This strategy doesn’t work every time, but I believe it is the playstyle that helps you hit mercy limits in 10 minutes :). We do not time every item, we do not control all map, we just doing cycles through the whole map in right direction with right positioning, that's all :).

I've red this interview before but somehow missed this:
"we need to have one supporter, one carry, one heavy damager and one tank"
"Tank is the one who knows how to play without absorbing any free damage (pavel_, coolleR)"

So, in ideal world latrommi now would have switched pavel/cooller to somebody like ash? The first rail aimbot that comes to mind and already plays in 102)

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Man I've watched Latrommi play and that guy is crazy good with almost any weapon, I think he has played enough TDM to comfortably take on any role and do it well, I wouldn't be suprised if we see his role changing a couple times in one TDM, from like carry to support to damage dealer, etc.

Good on ya Roccat. Maybe its a good time to bring out a more down to earth mouse too? :) Would be a nice cross promo!

Have Roccat backed quake players before?

N-n-n-n-n-n-nope :>

Its strange they do it now then. Someone must have had good contacts i suppose :)

Strange? I don't think it's strange, I think it's a good possibility to 'show yourself' (I mean PR ofc.) at very big event like QuakeCon, so it's a good investment at all. And all that they (Roccat) need to do is one-time-$3k-donation :)
On the other hand, it's strange that Zowie didn't do the same thing, afaik they have a contract with Anton "Cooller" Singov.

If his name had been Signov, Zowie would have signed off on it.

wheres the cooller stream at?!!!

http://www.twitch.tv/deliberatemurder — as co-caster (with Cooke or Green)

http://www.twitch.tv/cooller — Cooller's personal channel