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iTG > TSN. (61 comments)

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Posted by voodoochopstiks @ 12:55 CDT, 22 June 2006 - iMsg

http://forums.thecpl.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c...367#000010

I've fucking had it with the TSN commentary. It sucks SO much compared to ANY iTG caster. Seriously, the best of TSN is way below the worst of iTG. Please post in this thread and maybe we can tear up a bit of a shitstorm about it, and get them to change. Currently, the CPL sell their casting rights on a yearly basis, this year, they've sold it to gotfrag(TSN), let's make it known that the events will get more publicity and more attendance with some proper casting. It will pay off to not go for the immediate quick buck.

http://forums.thecpl.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c...367#000010

Please voice your opinion here in the CPL forums.

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<< Comment #1 @ 12:56 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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i concur

<< Comment #2 @ 12:57 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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qtip

is itg the one with WHAMSHAZAM? i always confuse them.

<< Comment #3 @ 13:00 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #2

TSN is the Wham Bam Shazam, let it end here!

<< Comment #5 @ 13:00 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Ion - Reply to #2

no...that's tsn

<< Comment #47 @ 08:33 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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koekie - Reply to #2

That was awesome :D:D

<< Comment #4 @ 13:00 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks

Warwitch, you may go no further!

<< Comment #15 @ 17:02 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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becks - Reply to #4

don't you ever tell WarWitch to stop! His RtCW shoutcasts were legendary, peopel would actually reintall just to hear a shoutcast when he came back once.

<< Comment #16 @ 17:04 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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becks - Reply to #15

yet, talking about the most recent shoutcasts I heard I prefer itg over tsn as well

<< Comment #19 @ 19:31 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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xoji - Reply to #4

Warwitch is king of the shoutcasters !

<< Comment #6 @ 13:13 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Sujoy

I thought gotfrag was a new one. They're not the same as TSN are they?

<< Comment #7 @ 13:58 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Ztrider

actually, i prefer TsN since theyre so more professional... even though wheat is the best shoutcaster =)

<< Comment #8 @ 14:03 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #7

You mean they have more barritone?

<< Comment #9 @ 14:36 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #7

Professional by making jokes about the MTV hosts mother, and screaming a Captain Marvel's attack word, I dunno man...

Jokes aside though, what do you mean with professional here? I find their casting to be worse than iTG's, and this is what matters imo.

<< Comment #10 @ 14:47 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #7

Professional how? By making jokes about the MTV hosts mother and constantly screaming the attack call of Captain Marvel? :D

Nah, jokes aside though, what about them do you rate as professional? In my opinion, their casting is less good than iTG's, and this is what matters to me, the end viewer.

Please elaborate Ztrider :D

<< Comment #11 @ 15:42 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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ini - Reply to #7

From a purely spectator (As in the online streams and stuff) point of view they are both as (un)proffesional as each other. The actual match casts are ok, but everything surrounding the casts etc is so lame and amatuer imo :S

<< Comment #48 @ 08:44 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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raide - Reply to #11

Just like most upstart e-sport companies, they are a bunch of kids trying to act like adults.

It kinda reminds me of those kids news shows from specific episodes of the Simpsons and South Park.

<< Comment #51 @ 16:08 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #11

i like it that way

informal chats with the players are much more interesting

<< Comment #52 @ 16:10 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #11

just like when bbc interview ronnie 'o sullivan

they try and act all formal and build up snooker to be some great sport, and ronnie just doesnt give a shit and fucks about/takes the mick out of the bbc pompousness - i love that a bit of personality

<< Comment #54 @ 17:05 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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ini - Reply to #52

I meant more the look/feel and how there is never anything going to schedule (I like what you described too)

<< Comment #12 @ 16:25 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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rolf - Reply to #7

nope and yes

<< Comment #13 @ 16:27 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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cumrag

Let tsn cast CS, and itg everything else.

I had a hard time enjoying the recent wsvg q4 matches with all that weird commentary...

<< Comment #14 @ 16:34 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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tsn sucked since the casters liek wheat left for itg :P

<< Comment #17 @ 17:30 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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veal

as long as the stream doesn't buffer and i get enough q4 games i don't care.

joe casts good enough for me although he isn't in wheat's league.

<< Comment #18 @ 17:54 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Torzelan '

I don't wish to talk shit about anyone and even though I don't even know their names, I'd say there is decent shoutcasting skills available in the TSN camp... BUT I definately prefer iTG and it feels like it's an easy choice when I can easily name 3 iTG casters that do (in my opinion) better casting than any of the TSN crew, and I can't even name 3 people of the TSN crew which must tell something (lacks personality and/or community involvement...?).

Edited by TorZelan at 17:55 CDT, 22 June 2006

<< Comment #20 @ 20:12 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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leash

I can't stand the american accent. Either way....get redeye or tosspot to do everything...who are they with?

<< Comment #21 @ 20:15 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #20

iTG both.

They still get owned by Wheat though(in every game except the RTCW series, where tosspot rules :D)

Redeye is a really good caster, but he's not better than Wheat :D

Edited by voodoochopstiks at 20:16 CDT, 22 June 2006

<< Comment #43 @ 05:19 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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wakka - Reply to #21

Joe > Tosspot and Redeye anyday

<< Comment #44 @ 06:17 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #43

Yeah sure, Joe is alright, but he only casts like 2 minutes a match and lets his horrible partners do everything else.

I doubt you'd say the same after you see wheat in action this QuakeCon :D.

<< Comment #53 @ 16:12 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #21

word

wheat during cpm masters cup reminded me of what we are missing

he is the true master - personality, enthusiasm and knowledge of the game (maybe not so much the finer points of cpm but he truely loves q3)

<< Comment #22 @ 20:19 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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leash

I can remember redeye doing some early q4 democasts and they were pretty good.
He doesn't "OH WOW" and "OH JESUS WOW" like all the americans do, so it makes it easier to listen to.

<< Comment #24 @ 22:21 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #22

-american +TSN and your sentence speaks truth :D

<< Comment #38 @ 05:24 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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fag with no name - Reply to #22

He's a great caster even though he sounds like he's having a cold and got his nose full of snot.

<< Comment #23 @ 22:19 CDT, 22 June 2006 >>

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Dav

I'm allergic to Adam Ruzzo

<< Comment #25 @ 01:36 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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what about EGLN :P

<< Comment #26 @ 02:45 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Nicky

i find tsn casts boring ,lacking in enthusiasm and sound quite unsure about what they are talking about . iTG involve themselves in the community, know what they are talking about and are fun to listen to . iTG also have their casts/streams available for dl so the poor souls with shite connections still get the pleasure of listening/watching their fav game without buffering every 2mins

<< Comment #27 @ 02:49 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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brz

TSN casters are like the guys on the WC budweiser ads on ITV atm - but actually being serious

<< Comment #29 @ 03:55 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #27

The yanks trying to play football?

<< Comment #30 @ 04:10 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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brz - Reply to #29

no they're commentators

'did you see that dummy in the 1st half?'
'yeh i thought he was a complete idiot'

<< Comment #31 @ 04:43 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #30

Ok haven't seen that one just the other bud ad.

<< Comment #32 @ 04:44 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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brz - Reply to #31

its on ITV and i assume u dont have that in iceland ;x

<< Comment #33 @ 04:49 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #32

We do get some brit ads on other stations mate :o

<< Comment #35 @ 04:56 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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brz - Reply to #33

it's like the sponsor advert if u see what i mean - not one on normal rotation

<< Comment #39 @ 05:25 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #35

ahh k

<< Comment #34 @ 04:50 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #32

But then again I've only watched one station since the world cup began.

<< Comment #28 @ 03:45 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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sonic

TSN sucked since wheat and co left, this is BREAKING NEWS

<< Comment #36 @ 05:03 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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Sm@ck

I find it stupid to complain of a free service.
IF you do not like the casts than mute the sound or switch the stream (if possible). Each caster has its pros and cons these are mostly subjective. IT is clear that on average esreality users prefer itg, but do they represent the larger % of the listening audience?

<< Comment #40 @ 23:24 CDT, 31 July 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #36

It's not possible to switch the stream, seeing as CPL and WSVG have sold exclusive casting rights to TSN.

<< Comment #37 @ 05:17 CDT, 23 June 2006 >>

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foonr

/me waits for Toss "Anti-everything TSN" poT's comment with glee ^_^

<< Comment #41 @ 00:03 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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way2ez4gtv - Reply to #37

glee eh?

<< Comment #42 @ 05:17 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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wakka

STFU, TSN rocks , joe is awesome. [-]

Edited by Wakka at 05:20 CDT, 1 August 2006

<< Comment #45 @ 06:20 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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sonic

bearcares

<< Comment #46 @ 06:47 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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Dird

I STARTED THIS REVOLT! \o/

<< Comment #49 @ 12:03 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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pisk - Reply to #46

don't let the fame get into your head, dird .)

<< Comment #50 @ 12:22 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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Dird - Reply to #49

i started the post on cpl...

<< Comment #55 @ 20:41 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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Anonymous (adsl-71-131-212-195.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net)

QW 4v4 DM commentary by gaz > WC3 commentary by bunny > CS commentary by some guy at gotfrag > everything else I heard

I haven't seen anyone (including ITG and TSN) doing a notable commentary for 1v1 DM, any game. Maybe 1v1 DM is not a good platform for commentary?

<< Comment #56 @ 23:24 CDT, 1 August 2006 >>

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Pushpabon - Reply to #55

???????? cmc commentary by wheat/itg, absolute golden, especially the finals.. unbelievable action and excitement, thrill, bestest.

Edited by Pushpabon at 23:25 CDT, 1 August 2006

<< Comment #57 @ 00:21 CDT, 2 August 2006 >>

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bud - Reply to #56

can i like download the cast from the finals? :(

<< Comment #59 @ 01:25 CDT, 2 August 2006 >>

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Pushpabon - Reply to #57

Nope, still not available. We should "convince" wheat to publish them. :(

<< Comment #61 @ 15:05 CDT, 2 August 2006 >>

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bud - Reply to #59

tru, why wouldn't he btw :(

<< Comment #60 @ 05:45 CDT, 2 August 2006 >>

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payze - Reply to #55

GAZINET \;D/

<< Comment #58 @ 00:22 CDT, 2 August 2006 >>

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bud

ITG > TSN

TSN make me go zzz, joe is the only tsn-caster I like

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