I've watched the first 40 seconds of the trailer, it's great, 10/10

you talking about the trailer or the mod? :P

At this point, nothing aside from a new Quake title is possibly going to revive any of the Quakes' communities, let alone Q4's. The effort behind this mod is appreciated by those of us who still play, but a lot of players have moved on for good. It's not that I expect GTR to flop -- it's just that the state of the community is nearly irreversible.

q3 cpma community is good. always getting new playings joining #cpmpickup

Anyway what is wrong with small communities. Certainly makes them more close knit. I would rather live in a village that a huge city.

But it also limits their exposure to the outside, which means things can only go downhill.

I agree, you dont need thousands to play this game. And with the more people in a community the more anonymity, so a close knit community is tighter.

Nothing will bring more players to q4, or any quakes as troy said...quake 5 if it is amazing out of the box and great competitive play then maybe...just maybe, and i don't see any of the cpm'ers switching to this

If the gametype that has the same physics as CPM (GTX ?) has also a good netcode, i would switch for better graphics obviously :p

switch from what? q3 on high detail is better than q4

o rly ?
gimme your cfg then :D

Agreed

Show me a picture of Q3 that looks better than this then:

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/FoAmEr...aper-1.jpg

dont think you have picked a worst pic to compare, just dug these up with a quick google search -

http://www.esreality.com/files/thumbnails/200...IONss3.png
http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/20..._small.jpg
http://www.helderpinto.com/blog/wp-content/quake3screenshot.jpg

q3 just looks cleaner and sharper, plus it doesnt have all these crappy new effects to make it look plasticy

Those pictures look sharper because they were taken at a higher resolution. I can only run 1280x1024 at the highest. Even so, none of those are more impressive then the one I posted imo.

The rockets in Q3 are burning hexagons, the models are boxy and disfigured, the textures don't have as much depth, and the detail of shadows, and lighting cant compete.

Give me a break.

wrong

You are trolling. Only a moron would say Quake 3 looks better.

EDIT: I know you like Q3 but come on, Q4 looks better at highest settings. The engine is simply more advanced. Q3 still looks good tho.

Personally I think the look of Quake 3 on high quality is very good. It's got a feeling like holy shit everything comes together to make the technology in this game make it look 3 times better than it should for it's age. And I agree with the other posters the cleanness and simplicity of the older game's graphics help it to look better than new games (including q4).

Yeah I agree that Q3 looks very good for it's time. Probably even better than Q4 for it's time. I don't think Q3 has better graphics though.
It really doesn't matter much anyway. Most of us play with washed out textures, and without even a gun model. Lol.

Nice styro, I have set that as my wallpaper :) Q3 teamarena does look good but q4 is nice, q3 is a bit too cartoony in comparison. But its just an opinion and subjective :)

http://www.cip.ifi.lmu.de/~filonik/pics/hdrish-dfwc04-1-02.jpg

I'm waiting for this mod to be released to reinstall quake4 :)

You guys can view a trailer for the newest beta of the mod (to be released later this year)

From GTR's point of view I hope thats not the newest beta, since that was video uploaded in november 2007 (although most of the new q4max-killer features were first promoted back in august 2006).

Leave the promotion until its at least close to being released - I think bandit has gotten this point since I've not seen him posting more teasers recently, so maybe you should do the same ;)

could come to a ridiculous point :P

please don't mistake this to be started by me.. I was suprised myself that someone started a news based on the old news from month ago.
This was not started by me or my team, in fact, if I would have been asked, I would have said this is nonsens to post the news again.

I wouldnt take it too harsly, debate and controversy inspires interest. The only thing i have issue with is the adolescent "VS" stuff that can come around.

Yeah, look at the quake community, I'm absolutely certain heavily modified gameplay will get the crowds just FLOODING in.

GTR is much improved and I like it. However, lets try to step away from this "one mod quake game". I dont see a good game that has only one mod, and I think multiple mods helps the community rather than having a mod have a monopoly. I am in the whole of things pretty new--I wasnt around or didnt play the xbm--never saw a server. But this "VS" drama only serves to separate the community. Look waht the q3 vs q4 discussions that go on. I understand its hard for people to spread their attention to multiple mods or games, but it doesnt need to morph into this "I am better than that mod or turn into this is a VS competition".

ONe thing that is a bit sad, q4 had a lot of good mods that I have seen disappear like:

Weapons of destruction---good mod ran stable and had alt fire---it was a good mod.

Expertctf-good mod it was fun had a lot of good features too.

xbm--didnt ever play it but people speak of it.

List goes on. Multiple mods helps the game, this idea of q4 being a one mod game is ridiculous. It gets kind of silly when you have certan fanboys of other mods get upset and all riled because another mod is added as an option to a server. Its sillyness. But I think teh quake community is where it is and is going to stay pretty stable with what is left---I don't see the community growing unless id decides to make the q4mp free.

Plus, its not necassarily the content that has depleted the community. Q4 is a difficult game and people who do not hav e the patience to train their skill will leave the game. A lot of the people join a duel server and start losing quit the game. It happens that way all the time---people cannot stand to lose and that is one of the major reasons people find other games. Then what you have left is the people who really truly like this game. . People need to hve the confidence tehy will win---if they don't they quit or dont play it at all.

Quake 4 is skill. To those who change gameplay in mods I say only "Fuck you."

It's like always, if you do not know what the mod is about there isn't a good reason to reply. Will only make you look dumb :)

Changing the gameplay is what mods are actually fucking about, are you that far gone that the concept of modding other than to add shit like bright skins makes no sense to you?

keys?

Wait isn't Q4max standard Q4 and Q4base a mod??

(just kidding)

whine!




;P

GTR sure rocks. I really hope bandit gets the time to finish it :)

GTR will just kill the game for good. Split the already tiny community for some gimmicks and noob friendliness, well done ;)

"noob friendliness" ?

Don't bother to reply to Q4 fanboys who think "Q4 is skill, Q4 is perfect" (LAWLZ)

Fanboy or not, I'm right

Nah, GTR actually requires skill to play actually. It wont split the community any, my mod hasnt and i got some crazy stats to show the play my mod has. Diverse content is good for the community. But as i have said, the community is pretty conventionalistic and is retro. Quake community is not the community to look for when it comes to "progressive" content.

"Some communities are yoked like cattle--for fear of the stigma that they are not one of the elite," (some crazy philosopher).

q4<skill @ diabz
as if you get my point mister

I think you need a hug.
*hug*

you can not kill what is dead already

no.

I think Quake 4 is reviving itself actually :).

What is the song in the begining?

White Stripes - I can't wait

Thank you very much <3

Cool, now I will install Q4 again.

seriously? :P

People need to have the confodence to play other things than just Q4Max. Thats what will make GTR successful, and it's also what will make Q4 grow more as a whole.

The success of a mod actually is based on the modders "relation" to the community. People play where people are at, maybe even more than the content itself. The mod or game probably is just about 50 or even less the reason why the player is playing it.

There definitely is a lot of insecurity and ego in mod creators, and I think that is why you don't see many modders in the community. It is like a separation in order to try to make the product look more professional. I think people may discredit a mod if they know the modder becuase they know the person. It does make sense, one reason I dont really care about other mods is not only because I am a self-centric person---but you dont see the creators in the community so its not a big deal to play it. In this way modders can be separated from the community becuase they are too insecure or timid to receive some of the hate that is out there.

But, I am bored hearing all the q4 trash talk. But it does show that id has done a great job, becuase its almost religious how the q3 fanboys cling and support their preferred version.

To touch on dradik's comment--I think there is a growth happening, in the last few weeks there has been quite a few new players in quake, not only new buyers but people coming in from q2.

I think GTR will bring a different feel to the game which will add to the quake experience :)

Its still not compatible with 1.4.2 :(

it has been for some time now, just not for the public :P
making lots of progress lately though, so don't give up on us.

c'mon... give us some news :/

+1 :<

c'mon, I just did ^^
all I can say is that we're currently at a stage where we focus on fixing problems and finish the stuff we already started..
i.e. no more new features are being added before public beta.

...
Well ok, since it's been so long since the last news, here is a small one:
We've got ra4 map support, all ra4 maps you can find on the net are fully playable in GT-R.

I hope you release this before Quake 5 comes out... :)

:>

Going back to store getting back my quake4 wich I sold for 4€ :D omfg now I need to pay 10€

ill sell you mine for 5€ xD