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That was QuakeCon 2008 (165 comments)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by Badb0y @ 10:51 CDT, 7 August 2008 - iMsg

Event: QCON'08

Before this years QuakeCon faded away in our memories, here are a few videos from the event.

Enemy Territory.TV overs us the Carmack Keynote and Press Conference plus the Fatal1ty interview.

Now see what QuakeUnity deliver us, note that from time to time some new videos arrives. The shoutcast of the videos is provided by Michal "Carmac" Blicharz, Rod "Slasher" Breslau, Brian "destrukt" Flander and Stuart "Django" Ewen.

Carmack Keynote QuakeCon 2008

1v1: Griffin vs. ZeRo4: 3 Maps (new)
1v1: ZeRo4 vs. Rawfuh: 2 Maps
1v1: ZeRo4 vs. Rapha: 2 Maps
1v1: ZeRo4 vs. Chance: 3 Map Set (Chance kicks Zero4 in the Lower Bracket)
1v1: Rapha vs. Cypher Map2 (contains short Cypher Interview)
1v1: Fox vs. Cypher: Map1
1v1: Chance vs. Carnage Map1
CTF: rage vs. inninitforthe$ Map1
CTF: rage vs. inninitforthe$ Map2
CTF: rage vs. inninitforthe$ Map3

Roger from QuakeUnity:
And don't forget about the QuakeLive 1v1 and CTF finals videos. The 1v1 finals video has been edited and just needs to be rendered and uploaded. It will contain all the in-game footage of the 2 maps played between ZeRo4 and Cypher along with video from main stage and award ceremony.

Edited by Badb0y at 13:24 CDT, 10 August 2008 - 61926 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 11:04 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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toifel

if quakeunity contiunues like that they might actually have all important 1v1/CTF matches up until next years qcon, gj.

<< Comment #2 @ 11:07 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #1

stop fucking complaining about free stuff. god

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<< Comment #4 @ 11:08 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #2

I've got a free shit I can send you.

<< Comment #6 @ 11:19 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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toifel - Reply to #2

I will stop the day they stop announcing/promising stuff like "VOD releases very soon after they are shot".

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<< Comment #17 @ 19:06 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #2

no excuse at all

if you can't deliver then don't offer it's that simple

you don't see arqon or anthonyj saying this will be included, we'll do that or that, it'll be ready then and for good reason

<< Comment #45 @ 06:21 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #17

Lie! Arqon said he just fixed a broken game. Strange how a broken game was perfectly balanced since 2000. But not anymore.

Arqon please dont fix anything anymore.

/stoprage

<< Comment #49 @ 07:54 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #45

cq3

<< Comment #51 @ 08:24 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #49

= stupid

<< Comment #71 @ 15:54 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #51

You're just a whiny kid that wants the past back because times were different then. EVERY game has people like this, including mmorpgs(the game was better when it had less content in it!!!11)

The game evolved since your ideal time, so you just bitch instead of wanting to get it fixed. I still want to play quakelive but fact is that cq3 has had every change it has right now for a much longer time plus if people used it would probably get changers quicker than quakelive will ever be. On top of that QL is going to be fail for local lans because id thinks they can be nazi server dictators, which will probably just kill the game.

<< Comment #75 @ 18:01 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #71

errrr, no. cq3 is just total crap, a mix of everything that produced... SHIT. sorry.

<< Comment #76 @ 18:11 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Lisk - Reply to #75

Have you actually tried cq3 as of 1.46?

<< Comment #95 @ 05:03 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #76

yes.

<< Comment #80 @ 23:56 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #75

Yup, just a whiney bitch

<< Comment #94 @ 05:03 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #80

why do i need to like something that is not good, you fucking cripple?

<< Comment #120 @ 18:30 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #94

placebo

<< Comment #137 @ 04:57 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #120

i dont really need a e-drama with some damn noob that plays quake for a year and a half and obviously cant feel the difference.

end.

<< Comment #138 @ 06:36 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #137

I've played enough games competitively and seen this ---****exact****--- scenario apparently more times than you can count.

It's natural for people to bitch about current problems and have a sense of nostalgia towards an ignorant time in the past.

Don't call drama if you're the one crying :D

<< Comment #162 @ 10:47 CDT, 11 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #138

crying about what? the fact that noone gives a shit about your OHSOGOOD cq3? no, i'm perfectly fine with that fact. it will stay that way.

<< Comment #128 @ 01:22 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #94

whiney bitch imo

<< Comment #78 @ 20:51 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #45

Complaining is the best way to lose lifetime. If you dont like it, then just go back to osp, or find yourself another cpma mod. There are plenty of other games too, other things to do besides playing on your pc.
As for me, I enjoy playing vq3 and watching the demos as much as I did in the past at osp. Also Im grateful that Arqon saved a dying game.

<< Comment #84 @ 01:59 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #78

I'm grateful that Arqon made cpma and kept quake 3 alive so long that ID would take an interest in quake 3 again and make quakelive.

Quakelive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CPMA>>>>OSP>>>>RA3

<< Comment #19 @ 19:31 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #2

old free stuff, yay

<< Comment #3 @ 11:07 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Terbo

Well this is better than nothing... can we get some Zero4 matches?

Thanks

<< Comment #5 @ 11:09 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #3

True
but why Quakecon staff did not care about people who wanna see all the game in live ?

<< Comment #7 @ 11:26 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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PuX - Reply to #5

in fact they just don't care, probably

<< Comment #8 @ 11:27 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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TAFKAagardenchair

Team Arena maps! I loved them.

<< Comment #9 @ 11:39 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr

Are they uploading just haphazardly? Eg., why didn't they upload the last video of fox-cypher before uploading rapha-cypher?

<< Comment #10 @ 11:42 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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miracle

magnus' lg is amazing

<< Comment #11 @ 11:48 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Ukjsatiy

I see Fatal1ty has ditched using his very own mouse to go back to the explorer, I WONDER WHY.

<< Comment #59 @ 09:49 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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koji - Reply to #11

really? whered you see this

<< Comment #61 @ 10:40 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Ukjsatiy - Reply to #59

In the short Fatal1ty interview on enemyterritory.tv, you can see his mouse has the tell-tale red arse of a microsoft mouse, unlike the Fatal1ty mice which have a white light on their left side

<< Comment #90 @ 04:50 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #61

you are the one true mouse nerd mate

<< Comment #130 @ 01:25 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #90

I was THERE watching him play as well. He was using the IE 3.0. Although one thing I did notice is that every once in a while his cursor on screen seemed like it was skipping pixels, and my 3.0 does this as well and then it goes away. Kind of strange but I do think it has something to do with the 3.0 @ stock usb speeds.

<< Comment #12 @ 18:00 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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fazz

carmac, you suck at commentating! ;)
'
But great work anyways ofc!

<< Comment #13 @ 18:02 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #12

I know! (No joke.)

<< Comment #14 @ 18:29 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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wheat - Reply to #13

YOU'VE HEARD OF HALO 3 LESSONS...

YOU'VE HEARD OF CS 1.6 LESSONS...

BUT NOW... LESSONS OF A NEW FLAVOR.

djWHEAT PRESENTS:
"How to shoutcast, and sing along to the ALF Theme Song"

Appearing on 3 cassettes or 1 CD - this award-winning training program can be yours for only $999.99!

Wish I could have been there... sounded like fun.

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<< Comment #15 @ 18:39 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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fazz - Reply to #14

Is it hot down there? ;)

ps. miss your stuff

Edited by fazz at 18:40 CDT, 7 August 2008

<< Comment #16 @ 18:46 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #15

we need a totally crazy wheat on the mic :>

<< Comment #18 @ 19:26 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #14

I'd like to place an order please - 1 CD

Just for the ALF theme song though, you don't even need to record the other preamble :)

<< Comment #29 @ 23:43 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #14

Man wtf are you doing? Why you aren't shoutcasting Q3? Those guys commentating nowdays don't have a clue.

<< Comment #32 @ 01:44 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #14

omg its wheat comeback and do q3 shoutcasting again, you are the legend :(

<< Comment #33 @ 02:00 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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ReDeYe - Reply to #14

HAHAHA now THAT is gonna sell!

<< Comment #37 @ 03:36 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #14

we miss you wheat, pls be at ESWC to shoutcast the games. =(

Edited by Gladius at 06:19 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #60 @ 10:18 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #13

I think you were good. Relaxed and joking, from a good perspective on things. Good humor. Was entertaining and that's all that matters.

<< Comment #62 @ 10:42 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #13

it actualy wasn't that bad tbh.
It's just that you try to shoutcast a bit like 2gd with somewhat more of an indepth knowledge of the game which you try to explain. But it's realy hard for a not high level player to even understand this, and to explain it while it happens is even hard for most high level players. And that's where mistakes are born ;)
So I thought it was a good effort of you so your mistakes are forgiven ;)

<< Comment #64 @ 13:53 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #13

the little i heard was pretty good

enjoyed dkt's co-commentary too

<< Comment #20 @ 19:40 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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mirror5

Where are the "low quality wmv" links? Did they just give up on that or what?

<< Comment #23 @ 21:16 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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X0z3N

Despite the good efforts from carmac at the art of commentating matches, django appeared and saved him from the big bang lol good job carmac, either way you've tried your best...no one had the balls to try such a thing without any experience or talent in their blood...but is that possible that we'll see a shoutcaster carmac anytime soon ? ;D

Free stuff is always good even if that is all released till the end of the world, stop complaining - people are at hard work just for giving you all that...they're making you a favor, learn to respect !

<< Comment #36 @ 03:35 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #23

Of course it's free, who would pay for coverage like this?

<< Comment #41 @ 05:55 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #23

Carmac was better than Django and Slasher.

He was making mistakes and at times couldn't quite keep up but he at least tried to be more descriptive of the events going on rather than just "Nice Rail", "Nice Rocket" or "He picked up the RA".

<< Comment #43 @ 06:05 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #41

It's good to see people trying anyways.

I didn't think he was bad at all - mistakes happen (even for experienced commentators in all sports). The key thing is to be able to learn from them / carry on regardless.

Also thought he made really good comments (and I liked the Scorpion Mortal Kombat reference :D)

<< Comment #44 @ 06:11 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #43

hah yeah :D

<< Comment #54 @ 08:40 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Carpio - Reply to #41

Toogood is the best caster by far imho!

<< Comment #55 @ 09:34 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #54

destrukt was pretty good when he did his guest commentary

Edited by timmah at 09:34 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #65 @ 13:54 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #55

agreed, dkt was very good, like 2dg but without the humour

<< Comment #21 @ 20:25 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

DEAR GOD CHANGE THE FOV TO SOMETHING VIEWABLE

<< Comment #22 @ 21:16 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (user-0c2i1nr.cable.earthlink.net)

Wow, this coverage sucks. It's been a week and I still can't watch the finals in either tourney. I mean, come the fuck on.

<< Comment #26 @ 21:55 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #22

DEWD ITS FREEEEE,STOPWHINING,ETc.

luls.

<< Comment #28 @ 23:35 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #26

Ofc it's free. Would you pay to se the the soccer world cup _quarter finals_ a week after they've been played? It would be kinda dissapointing if you actually had to be there to se the games.

<< Comment #70 @ 15:52 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #28

I was just mocking comment #2 lol

Edited by ted at 19:37 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #24 @ 21:18 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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_agu

thanks

<< Comment #25 @ 21:27 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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vcn

direct links

Fox vs Cypher
http://stream.quakeunity.com/2736/2736.flv

rapha vs. cypher Map2
http://stream.quakeunity.com/2738/2738.flv

<< Comment #27 @ 23:20 CDT, 7 August 2008 >>

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Venim

so this quakecon sucked... 'That was QuakeCon 2008'

<< Comment #30 @ 00:12 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #27

Yea, and I was hoping to remember it as quakeon 2008: The first QL competition ever. Now I'm not really sure there were any :(

<< Comment #31 @ 01:20 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

ql looks really really nice

hopefulyl thruogh the changes more weapons will be used
the pros still use alot of lg rl lg but when they notice that lg isnt that strong anymore more sg and plasma will be use

graphi 1++
movement speed rocketjumps 1++

how can people still play cs? :)

<< Comment #38 @ 03:45 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ zrC - Reply to #31

How people still can play CS? Well if I am correct it is the biggest FPS game. It got Like ziljon times more money in it. And another thing, its covered.

Then you can argue how good the game is and so on. But that is a personal oppinion wich leads to nowhere.

I prefer Q3(CPM) but I dont see the point in bashing at CS.
CPM > CS . Vq3 < CS ;)

<< Comment #40 @ 05:38 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #31

probably because whenever you join server you can play 8x8, 10x10 etc instead of waiting in a queue for a duel game

<< Comment #52 @ 08:26 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #40

bwah, ignore the cratelovers

<< Comment #34 @ 02:35 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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|shaydee|

If you reg as an official highlighter, you have to offer appropriate quality and timing of content given. If you can't - gtfu. Even it's a free staff. The main thing is that ID doesn't care... C'mon, guys, it's time to wake up.

<< Comment #35 @ 02:48 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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exp!

ROTFL @ PING 25 IN LAN

<< Comment #57 @ 09:46 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #35

Scoreboard means jack...

<< Comment #39 @ 04:48 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Aaron

so I'm forced to alter windows volume for the streams because if I click mute I can't a stupid fucking symbol right in the mid of the video

I mean, not like there's a faded out volume control to already point this out :\

<< Comment #42 @ 05:59 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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hemostick

Thanks for the videos Roger1 et al., but is it really necessary to make a 700+meg hd video of standing-and-talking-JC ?

<< Comment #106 @ 07:58 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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veal - Reply to #42

yes!
it is!

Edited by veal at 07:58 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #46 @ 06:57 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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m4z

much more rocket launcher used: so much nicer to watch than lg fuck of cpma.

<< Comment #47 @ 07:18 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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svr - Reply to #46

dont blame CPMA. Also QL has altered these guns so their use would be different even if it was played with cpma netcode.

<< Comment #48 @ 07:42 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #46

vq3 would be exactly the same with LG nerfed, moran.

<< Comment #53 @ 08:38 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #48

It would? Oo

<< Comment #56 @ 09:41 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #53

along with several other changes, yes, it would.

<< Comment #63 @ 13:24 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #56

Please be a little more specific. Tell me why the gameplay wont change if the LG gets nerfed. I take that you're not talking about a damage nerf.

<< Comment #74 @ 17:30 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #53

just look at CQ3

<< Comment #82 @ 01:52 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #74

CQ3 sucks. I know its basically everything the same as QL, except the movement in CPMA is horrible. Quakelive actually listened they have OSP type movement - the floaty feeling - but it NEVER lags when you click jump - so its always like cpma consistent strafing. They also have REALLY nice rocket jumping, its precision as hell. Just feels so light and amazing to strafe around in QL.

And rocket launcher is 1000x better. Faster/more splash damage and just makes quakelive so much more fun.

Edited by sinoXy at 01:53 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #86 @ 02:22 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #82

my point wasn't whether CQ3 sucks or not

and anyway no one can really say 'CQ3 sucks' considering it has had no extensive testing or playtime at all on any kind of decent scale across a broad range of play styles and better maps

<< Comment #88 @ 04:36 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #86

nah it sucks dick. Along with cpma and arqon

<< Comment #91 @ 04:52 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #88

cut your veins with a chainsaw pls.

And yeah, definitely, you're an idiot.

<< Comment #101 @ 06:18 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #91

negative bitches, wait till QL releases, then you will know how terrible cpma (vq3) is compared.

<< Comment #93 @ 04:55 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #88

good arguments sir

man you're a fucking idiot

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<< Comment #50 @ 07:55 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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madbringer

i has a quakecon

nooo, they be fucking up my quakecon

lol free whining, getsum

<< Comment #58 @ 09:47 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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spyteman

this CTF stuff looked rather horrible ^_^ but duel seems nice!

Edited by spyteman at 09:52 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #66 @ 13:59 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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doped

hahahahahah.. CTF worked like shit on those HUGE TA maps :/

<< Comment #67 @ 14:26 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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nemecel

Why the Carmack keynote video stops just when he is asked about the competitive side of QuakeLive?

Edited by nemecel at 14:26 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #68 @ 14:50 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Symbi0nt

The camera person who filmed the keynote should be ass whiped 24 hours. blur focus blur blur blur focus blur ... aaaaaaaagh

<< Comment #69 @ 15:44 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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dem0n

OK.

Get rid of the TA maps and get us back the great maps that are q3wcp1, q3wcp15 and such...

q3wcp9 wouldnt be a bad thing either.

duel needs hub...

<< Comment #72 @ 16:02 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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quinnyfizzle

2gd and dkt are great commentators. Carmac is good as well.

Slasher, on the other hand, is downright terrible. LOL. There is no enthusiasm nor humor in his voice at all. I'd rather he not speak during matches. ;) "Nice rail." "Nice rocket."

Edited by quinnyfizzle at 16:03 CDT, 8 August 2008

<< Comment #73 @ 16:48 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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aBx|CRACK

Tournament Videos (13)
I can see only 7vids :(

<< Comment #77 @ 18:36 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Bluder

to me quake live looks good... and they reduced the dmg on rail right? only lg left and then and then game will be great imho...
sure there is alot of thigs that need to be fixed but as long as the weapon balance isnt just about lg then ql will be more fun then cpma any day of the week...

<< Comment #79 @ 22:20 CDT, 8 August 2008 >>

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Brahl - Reply to #77

pretty sure LG damage has been nerf and it has no cripple now :/

<< Comment #81 @ 01:49 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #79

It's not nerfed, its decreased LG damage, and no cripple, but LG accuracy is still 40% for good players and higher if you aim good. So its still strong as fuck but we can counter it cuz no cripple + nice RL.

MG got nerfed , but thats a good thing.

Edited by sinoXy at 01:49 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #87 @ 02:52 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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IllusionS - Reply to #81

Mg is useless now :S

LG damage still seems bout the same to me, just cause no xerp/cripple its not insane.

<< Comment #89 @ 04:39 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #87

I'm glad mg is crap, it screws with ctf/tdm too much having that much damage. I really love the balance now. In duel as well, you can't just cess after having a fight (and losing) and then run and MG the guy to death.

<< Comment #92 @ 04:55 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #81

think i missed the 40%+ lg? maybe you can link to some demos or something

<< Comment #103 @ 06:21 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #92

won't see that in demos, because people spam it in duel, if you look carefully in ctf/ffa you can see it sometimes, you know how the stats look... pretty gay so far

<< Comment #96 @ 05:03 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #81

It's not nerfed, its decreased LG damage, and no cripple

that is a nerf moron

<< Comment #99 @ 06:17 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #96

nerf to me means totally ruined, like MG its weak as shit and same as nailgun, lightning gun is still good, so shut up you british cocksmuggler

<< Comment #100 @ 06:18 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #99

they are weakened and harder to use therefore 'nerfed'

<< Comment #102 @ 06:19 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #100

It's the same as LG in cpma without xerp.

Xerp =BULLSHIT

/end

<< Comment #112 @ 09:39 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #102

No, go check your mailbox. I've put some bullshit there for you to examine : )

edit: Oh I forgot to ask. What are you talking about? :s

Edited by Vlad- at 09:40 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #110 @ 08:32 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #99

yuu are smart.

and to me smart means an idiot who completely ignores the actual meaning of words.

<< Comment #114 @ 10:11 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #110

Nerfed isn't even a word, dipshit. It's computer jargon or some other bullshit you fuckface. Now go drown in the shallow end of the pool retard.

<< Comment #115 @ 10:20 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #114

oh? so how did the words we use come along. Were there like 5 man who decided what is a word? Or was it maybe just that people started using a certain word until eventually the dictionaries accepted it.

You are hilarious in your ignorance ;D

<< Comment #116 @ 10:22 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #115

Owned.

<< Comment #117 @ 10:43 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #116

you wish

<< Comment #121 @ 18:35 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #114

word used during (i think) war3 patches, anytime something was lowered in goodness it's considered "nerfed"

if the stats are the same then why is xerp such a big deal to you btw?

<< Comment #127 @ 00:25 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #121

The accuracy is the same or a tad lower, but xerp in cpma is bullshit because of cripple - once someone gets shafted its over, hardly anything to do to combat it. And the damage is much too high. Quakelive fixes this, and takes away needing to bind xerpclients to lightning gun, and using that gay ass model - since its very distracting on your eyes. I also hated that to play cpma you HAD to use xerp versus other highlvl players else you would get shaft ruined everytime, and xerp is ugly/hurts my eyes when i use it. Quakelive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CPMA HARD

<< Comment #129 @ 01:23 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #127

cripple effect, people using xerp 1/0 binds, damage, using stable models, etc isn't related to xerp.. I guess the choppiness is a reasonable complaint though but that doesn't happen to me at all pretty much.

<< Comment #133 @ 03:24 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #129

he's an idiot who is just so fucking stupid and can't see the underlying problem is with VQ3 (toxic and others were doing it in OSP long before CPMA become the norm)

if you're going to hate the CPMA netcode for whatever reason then that's fine, but how you can think QL is any better is beyond reason. It's not bad per see but hacked and much too rewarding is supposedly better?

<< Comment #136 @ 04:42 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #133

what netcode? xerpclients looks fucked up like theres 3 models on screen when a player stafes left/right. That is annoying and gives me a headache.
/end

Quakelive doesn't have this problem but you can still hit high lg accuracy - as if playing normal cpma without xerp.

<< Comment #158 @ 18:56 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #133

Don't waste your breath on him - he's the same kind of zealot that was around when Q4 first came out. He's a newb to Q3 to begin with, and he loves gimmicky gameplay.

<< Comment #134 @ 04:36 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #127

so your gripe is with the weapon values of the LG... this is not cpma's fault, its vq3's fault. cpma added cq3 which although isnt perfect started the ball rolling on improving vq3 to todays connection/tech/skill but no-one seems to want to play it. QL comes along and basically has the same weapon values as cq3 and everyone wants to play and praise that O_o

<< Comment #135 @ 04:38 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #134

Negative. Quakelive has MOVEMENT/smoothness back. This ties everything together, once again. OSP strafe height and cpma consistant strafing + very good rocketjumping (it feels lagless and precise)

Remember when arqon said he couldn't do this? He was full of shit.

<< Comment #144 @ 08:35 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #135

jesus chirst man, SyncError himself said quakelive has the same jump height as cpma vq3. Stop praising smth that isnt even there.

Rocket jumping feels better because the rockets are stronger.

Edited by fjorgyn at 08:35 CDT, 10 August 2008

<< Comment #156 @ 17:21 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #135

1.) your not allowed to tell details about the current state of the ql beta
2.) arqon never said that he couldnt change the jump high, he just said that increasing the jumphigh wouldnt bringt back the osp feel and und would affect alot of other stuff. so he chose not to change it.
3.) how do you know that it is the 125fps osp jump high? afaik id never specificly said so.

<< Comment #159 @ 18:57 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #135

Remember when arqon said he couldn't do this? He was full of shit.

arQon never said he couldn't do it. Please, continue your campaigns of misinformation.

<< Comment #139 @ 06:59 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #127

but xerp in cpma is bullshit because of cripple

you my friend are an idiot!
usually i tend to explain stuff, but it would be a waste of time with you

<< Comment #140 @ 07:12 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #139

negative, you fail.

<< Comment #143 @ 08:08 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #140

you say:
a mod is bullshit because with its better netcode the flawed weapon design of the base game becomes even more obvious than before

and i think thats stupid

<< Comment #145 @ 08:39 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #143

No I think xerp is stupid because of having a fucking shadow clone or whatever you call it when you turn xerp on and the guy strafes left/right and you see fucking 3 of him. That's retarded, even the original command didn't work like that. And cpma vq3 movement fails compared to quakelives.

<< Comment #163 @ 17:49 CDT, 11 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #140

Do you give lessons? I'm sure Arktik would be interested.

<< Comment #153 @ 16:30 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #81

sounds all like an anti-cooller plot to me, especially about the MG stuff :)

<< Comment #83 @ 01:52 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sn1kzZe

rapha vs cypher, the interview of cypher after the game, carmac goes uszat mode and says:

"my english small, but my...." and then video cuts off :D

what was the missing word!?

<< Comment #85 @ 02:01 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #83

It sounded like he was about to say "ass" something. But why on earth would he measure that between his thumb and finger? :>

Edited by Vlad- at 02:01 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #98 @ 05:42 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #83

My other thing!

<< Comment #97 @ 05:28 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

I thought cypher just joined Serious, then why is he playing under Razer?

<< Comment #104 @ 06:57 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #97

Because srs is sponsored by razer.

<< Comment #105 @ 07:56 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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wata

shoutcasters :
stop describing the action, we see it as well as you do
I guess it's an old habit from radio shoutcasting times, DROP IT (completely)
beside that annoying blabling crap there are some interesting analysis/reflections. this is what I want to hear when I listen to shoutcasters
also you don't have to always talk, silence (which means listening to the game) is better when you have nothing relevant to say

<< Comment #107 @ 08:04 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #105

it was a radio shoutcast... there was no video stream

<< Comment #109 @ 08:21 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #107

not really, the shoutcast was done for quakeunity's vods, they said something like that in one of the first vods
anyway this apply to any shoutcast, it's not especially aimed to the qcon one
some shoutcasters are great, use their brain and talk about interesting stuff
some shoutcasters are crap, always describing the action cause they dunno shit about what's going on in the game they are shoutcasting, and should be shot

<< Comment #111 @ 09:09 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #105

Any shoutcaster, in any game, real or virtual, describes what happens. Else it would feel dead. Analysis and stuff like that is good, yes, but you can't have just that.

<< Comment #113 @ 09:46 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #111

that's your opinion
it would feel full of ingame sound to me, not dead
when I watch a demo I don't say to myself "ho shit, this feels dead, I miss a guy saying "nice rail from fooki, he took the ra, he got 123 health and 35 armor, they are battling with lg at the mh, etc.." " this is CRAP ECHO
also sometimes players are playing hide and seek and sound is a key element and I don't really wanna hear a shoutcaster in these moments but hear too what the player is hearing

<< Comment #148 @ 10:34 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #113

Do you watch any sports? Every sport describes exactly what is happening on screen with a touch of statistics...Describing what happens on screen also allows for some accessibility to those who do not play / play at a high level / may not understand certain things.

eg. Person delays taking the red armour >> Person wonders why >> Shoutcaster tells exactly why...

<< Comment #150 @ 11:49 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #148

"eg. Person delays taking the red armour >> Person wonders why >> Shoutcaster tells exactly why... "
fine, that is analysis
that's what I want

and I don't care how it's done in sport land or anywhere else
btw I think I've heard something like : UK provided 2 streaming of football (soccer) matches : one with shoutcasting (yes, the dumb one : "he pass to x, y got the ball, nice saving by z, etc"), and one without ; the one without was a huge success
I guess even in established sport a large amount of people are sick of these radio-like shoutcasting ; media just didn't let the choice before

<< Comment #151 @ 15:15 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #150

Did not know that about the UK soccer broadcast...

Suppose it's difficult to cater for everyone. And gaming is still trying to reach out to new audiences and get sponsors (and then have to mention those sponsors). Though it can be difficult enough to get one stream up and running :)

Have to say I like shoutcasting / commentary because it allows me to do other stuff / not have to focus on screen ALL the time to know whats going on.

<< Comment #154 @ 16:34 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #113

c'mon, carmac comments are great, he said smth about grabbing balls :D

<< Comment #122 @ 18:42 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #105

shoutcast of zero4 vs rapha was great

<< Comment #126 @ 21:53 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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hughJ - Reply to #122

Even when listening to the match live without video, I much preferred the analysis and conversation. Simply saying who hits who with what, and how much health and armor people have over and over actually doesn't do a very good job of painting a picture of what's happening. The action is typically too fast, back and forth, with health/armor changing for it to really be of much use.

Of course you still need to punctuate the action with play-by-play, but that only means drawing attention to certain events that are particularly noteworthy (coupled with some explanation as to why they are noteworthy.) Anything more than that and you're basically just a slower, less accurate version of an IRC scorebot.

<< Comment #142 @ 07:52 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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revoN - Reply to #122

Agreed. Carmac actually was the best of the shoutcasting bunch and destrukt provided some nice in-depth analysis as well. This is what we wanna hear, not some constant 'nice rail, he has xx hp xx armour etc.' crap.

Edited by revoN at 07:55 CDT, 10 August 2008

<< Comment #132 @ 02:57 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #105

We needed to take into account that people were not watching the matches live. Those listening in needed some info on the scores and what was going on as well.

<< Comment #155 @ 16:36 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #132

you could just say then "we are having a great time watching the matches you don't see"
or
"omg I cum everywhere"
:D

<< Comment #161 @ 02:19 CDT, 11 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #155

GTV speak on shoutcast would be LOL. I dare Carmac to do it!

<< Comment #108 @ 08:15 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

zero4 <3

<< Comment #118 @ 11:01 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Esque

Keeping the Team Arena maps I can understand. But why keep those rubbish weapons. The chaingun doesn't even have a wind up ala Q2 :(

PS looks like those gits left the tiny respawn delay in. Grumble grumble whine.

Edited by Esque at 11:04 CDT, 9 August 2008

<< Comment #119 @ 15:55 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #118

It has quake 2 windup... its fine, chaingun versus lg START TO START (first revolutions of windup versus already shafting lg) always loses so i think its balanced.

<< Comment #125 @ 20:33 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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Esque - Reply to #119

Dunno, it didn't look changed from Team Arena, and it has barely any wind up. Q2's takes several moments to spin up and it uses a fair wack of ammo doing so. atm just doesn't seem different enough from the LG to warrant it's exsistance.

The nailgun and Proxi-mines are worse mind :p

<< Comment #123 @ 20:01 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

i really like carmacs shoutcast
you notice that this guy has a clue and his accent is $$$

the new map on quake live is wtf pretty dark but hmm na dont like the textures
i mean ztn is so cool beacuse of the textures

the airrocket from fox vs cypher on 4.10 is lol haha

<< Comment #124 @ 20:28 CDT, 9 August 2008 >>

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toifel

after watching rapha - zero4, all I can say about these VODs is "lol??!".
the imagequality is worse than any CPL painkiller stream! if that's the way id wanted to show "QL's first debut to the masses" it has to be a joke... people who are not in the beta won't recognize shit in the t7 VODs... they probably even won't on dm6.

<< Comment #146 @ 09:32 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #124

shut the hell up you pompous idiot, the videos are streamable and watchable.

<< Comment #147 @ 09:50 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #124

cg_whine 2

<< Comment #160 @ 01:42 CDT, 11 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #124

there are two kinds of quality

high definition is quite decent

<< Comment #131 @ 02:40 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (user-0vvdaok.cable.mindspring.com)

i really enjoyed the vods - that's what events need + some kind of gtv support. makes it feel much more professional. also, ALL the shout casters did a fantastic job...especially carmac, i had no idea he could give such effortless commentary, well done man. i wonder how many languages he speaks.

quakelive looks to be great for high level competition. i look forward to stepping back into it all once it's released to the public.

<< Comment #141 @ 07:26 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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feTzu

so, when's QL coming to the masses?

<< Comment #149 @ 11:11 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Symbi0nt

I somehow hope that you might can watch ANY QL game thats currently on. That would be great, just clicking through all arenas and have a nice day.

On the other hand it must be cool to get a note that 200 ppl or so are watching your game right now.

@id: PLEASE PROVIDE country flag support by IP. There are serveral companies out there who can give you exact location informations depending on an ip. So an accurate level of country<->player could be achived.

<< Comment #152 @ 15:27 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Sub_

what happened to the fatali1ty, cypher etc panel discussion that was announced? guess it didn't happen huh

<< Comment #157 @ 18:42 CDT, 10 August 2008 >>

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Furore

well done on the shoutcasts

<< Comment #164 @ 04:29 CDT, 13 August 2008 >>

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wardragon

hopefully we can see the ctf finals today

edit: they are on there, but this post isn't updated yet.

Edited by wardragon at 01:07 CDT, 16 August 2008

<< Comment #165 @ 01:04 CDT, 14 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (CPE00184d8738eb-CM001a668ee710.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)

If they don't let us set the fov above 90 in Quake Live then I'm going to get seriously seriously cheesed off.

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