who the fuck are 519!

some American clan, a shadow of stx, cK, and DigA, mainly specializing in trolling

A shadow? Hah, give me a fucking break. 519 was one of the few clans to best "the best" in North American TDM. And then do it 2 or 3 more times to prove it wasn't a fluke.

While I won't argue the "specializing in trolling" - 519 played a crucial role for NA Q3 during it's prime.

You mention DigA who officially won nothing, unless it was a Freeze Tag tournament or something way off the radar.

You're not taking me seriouz enough. I think mentioning DigA should have made it obvious I was seriouz. Okey.

DigA for life.

newb

i think this should be majored. MAJOR

"519 frowns on such showboating in tournaments"

That's the best line :)

BTW, that's not an official quote. ^_^

yeah i remember when 519 came to europe to play tdm....

I remember that too, it was the official start of my "shoutcasting" career.

atleast something good came out of it then

It was an official start of my "happy hardcore" fandom! And then I couldn't find any similar torrents :(

consider that a good thing

hehe, seemed like good running music

liar! torrents didn't exist back then :(

thats why he couldnt find them?

I remember when cloud9 came to europe also, that was fun...

yeah qlan2 ctf tournament, those were the days :o

I remeber when aAa went to USA that was fun.

I remember when the united states expeditionary force came to Europe a few years ago, that was awesome!

I still don't know what a Paco is.

Doesnt matter; as long as you respect it.

hahhhaaa

c**t :)

FAIL

i know, right? czm.. how could you.

FAIL

your comprehension of the English language, subtlety, politics, friendship, and anything beyond the scope of your dirty desk is:

No, you still fail.

FAIL

Better than yours.

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I agree!

what does QED mean exactly?

It's latin for Quod Erat Demonstrandum, which translates to English as "I'm a Douchebag" basically.

"as has been demonstrated"

wrong tense,

*was to be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.E.D.
(also used as W^5 for WWWWW = Which Was What Was Wanted or Which Was What We Wanted).

yes.

I just said it's not present perfect passive but something like past + infinitve passive ... dunno exactly, would have to look it up to be sure :/

WZBW
in german it would be plusquam perfect i think

no

im lateinischen ist es das gerundivum, im deutschen wird es komisch konstruiet, es ist halt passiv, und ich vermisse das partizip 2. aber ansonstne sieht es find ich schon so aus

jo das schon eher, aber plusquamperfekt ist vorvergangenheit, und das passt nicht.


und ja, es ist doof konsturiert, im Englischem aber auch

I wonder how czm can go on living after a loss like this. He's probably drowning his sorrows by drinking whilst having to wake up each night from a nightmare





































... NOT!

I edit the poast jast for yew Black Ship!

In other news :

Fatality and cK part ways....

WHY god whyyyyyyyyyyyy

What we learned: playing fair will get you flamed and thrown out of a clan.

Also, he was throwing that QED bind around in every match, without, obviously, any aggravation pinned to it.

This... is a farce

chance should have done better if he was really worthy of moving on.

better as in beating k1llsen and cooller?

better as in beating czm ZING :D

*attention whores*

Thumbs up for czm for sticking to his game, consistency is the least you expect from a mathematician.

Respect for czm not giving up the match...

Why should czm compromise, clearly if chance is so good why did he lose to a player that did not make make it to the top four. czm can't just go play shit and throw the game when chance was so crap during that match.
Rather whine to chance for playing so poor vs czm.

The only thing to frown upon is clan519 and chance bad performance.

QED'ed

Great to see czm having some standards. We all remember how much you objected when cooller threw a map against Ni3 in wcg 2002, and thus eleminating zero4 from the tournament, but you have no problems helping your own clan mates advance, even though they don't deserve it for lack of skills and training.

My respects to Paul..

your scene is lol

u forgot Arktik's reaction on this

Respect for czm not giving up the match...

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1603774#pid1603774

Well my respect to czm for not being an asshole and keep his honor =p

HE BRINGA GREAT HONRA TO HIS FAMREE.

FRIED RICE AH YE

wait i did it wrong

Xscuse mi poor Ingrish!

americunts as we say

lol dont necessarily agree with it, but its definitely comically written : )

N1

how dare you, czm

This made me smile :)

Hehe, is this real? :P Why the fuck should he give up a match go get someone further in a tournament that obviously can't manage it by them selves? :P

How silly.

I thought QED stoud for Quite Easily Done..

Could also be: Quod Erat Demonstrandum (Latin: Which Was to Be Demonstrated)

you think?

I mean he's a mathematician and q.e.d. is used after a proof is complete.

every time you guys plus each other on esr for disagreeing with me over an obvious injustice, i get plussed in real life. aka a girl sucks my dick. thanks guys, thanks a lot. this is great.

And then you wake up.

imagine all the dicksucking he's gonna recieve for that post.

he'll be out of juice for the next couple of years

You, and your clan, and whoever supports the kind of attitude you exhibit, are a disgrace to esports, sports, and human kind alike.

How can you, with a straight face, not only ask someone to bend over, but also scold him for not doing so, in a duel tournament, for a teammate? How much more arrogant, cheeky and uncompetitive can you get.

Personally, i think it's fantastic that czm is no longer part of whatever idiocy this clan is. By not doing what you think he should have done, he proved, at least to me, that he's not only a great player, but also a great man, that has rules and values. gg czm.

You, and your clan... go fuck yourselves with a fork. :)

"every time you guys plus each other on esr for disagreeing with me over an obvious injustice, i get plussed in real life. aka a girl sucks my dick." -- clan519

Now look what you've done.

no doubt.. i haven't had this much action since Lan Arena 7.. and I wasn't even playing there, just coaching. Ladies of Paris, my cock salutes you to this day. (especially you, Ma cherie.. greeter and official Clan519 groupie of the weekend)

You are aware that by saying "mon cherie" instead of "ma cherie", you are implying that this individual is a man, right ?

it was a LAN, what do you think?

He had to work with what was there I guess :|

my french is a little weak. changed it. there are some hot dudes in paris tho, they look like chicks with a little stubble.. kind of disconcerting.

hmmmmm

I should post my latest. You'd have such an awesome time.

Funniest post, ever!

taking comfort from girls for anything is childish. Grow up and be a man

Must be some shit bj's since you're clearly a faggot

are you coming on to me? its okay

that's what i thought

haha :D
wow @ some people posting in this

this thread is amazing

what the fuck

"Among his many achievements at Caltech, Feynman revolutionized quantum electrodynamics, or QED. He is credited with correcting faults in the science’s basic theory, reinterpreting quantum mechanics and quantum electrodynamics from his unique perspective. It was this work that earned him the Nobel Prize in 1965."

So QED could also = Quantum electrodynamics

Why would I think this, well doesn't czm go to caltech now? He did start saying it after attending caltech.

and since czm says "QED" not Q.E.D like you have..

nerd!

idiot

intelligent.

A lot of people write it without the periods (and if they use them, they would probably use all three of them).

you don't think that him dropping a map on purpose to save a team mate would be unfair to the other players?

czm did the right thing, you also proved you are a fucking douchebag with this post.

so czm should lose on purpose just because he's playing a teammate? good to know paul isn't pussy whipped by a tag... i don't have any idea what QED means, but who cares...honestly. sounds like somebody was on their period and had to make a public post on ESR to feel like a big shot. i've always liked czm as a player and 519 as a team....but this is a bit immature don't you think?


519 at best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6o3I8ublas
"we frown on winning games, but being a douche bag is 100% cool!"

:(

really, I'd have probably made someone bleed from the face too, if someone had their camera all up in my personal space while I'm minding my own business gaming. What was he even asking? "are you bob dole, are you al gore?" What, was that supposed to be entertaining to someone? Personally, I'm gonna have to side with Bitchslayer on this one. :\

Pretty hard not to, idiots with cameras are everywhere these days :(

if your first instinct when somebody jokingly asks a stupid question is to get up and fight the entire room, then you have problems bro. a simple "fuck off" first could have worked?

People that think that the whole "I'm not touching you" thing while blatantly harrassing someone is somehow better than violence, needs an asskicking. Seriously. I'm the worst person in the world anyone would want to start shit with. And yeah, guess what, THEY started it. Unless we missed the part where he was pestering people that were minding their own business ('cause that's what happened to him) then I fail to see where he was in the wrong. maybe if the camera had been a couple feet further away, or maybe if the questions had pertained to anything at all. But no, we saw him minding his own business, playing his game, then an extreme close-up by someone that obviously wasn't a friend of his, asking "are you Bob Dole?" still calm, but obviously irritated, "no, I'm not". Camera in a little closer.. "Are you Al Gore?"
By that time I'm thinking two things. One- I don't have enough money to sue me. Two- I DO have enough money for bail for simple battery.

i'm not trying to say that the camera guy was right or anything, i would have been tempted to slap him too, but immediately jumping up, pushing the camera into his face, then trying to step outside and fight security....come on, grow up. i hear what you're saying focus, and i agree in some regards...but it's just a shame that some people don't leave that high school "oh you said something, let's fight!" mentality in high school.

first of all, I highly doubt that he would have done that if they'd been doing the same thing from a distance. A large part of the issue is that they were up in his face with it. if they'd been talking shit from across the room he probably would have just ignored them. Also, we have no idea what the guy in the red hat said while the camera was on the far end, so the reaction to that was probably primarily just adrenaline. I mean yeah, he could have warned them, but honestly, all i would have said was "this video IS gonna wind up on youtube, but not the way you want it to" and commenced to laying some beatdowns. Probably would have jumped off a table elbow first onto one dude, then smash one of those CRT's into the head of another, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

meh, you kids.. could've simply punched the guy in the face, sat back on his chair and continue playing. why all the drama and 'out-calling'?

because the mental image of that guy laying someone out, then doing an elbow drop off of the table onto him Hulk Hogan style is more entertaining.

:)

i understand where you're trying to go with this, but you've got it completely wrong.

dclock was an ass, plain and simple. he was getting on everyone's nerves at that event (babbages cpl in 2000). by the end of the event, the HKA guys that he randomly started following around and sucking up to (and even tried to protect him there) were even ready to beat his ass. the guy was being a completely drunken tool for all 3 days.

the guy in the red hat was not security personnel. he was just some guy trying to be a hero for his damsel in distress, dclock. bitchslayer's reaction to him was justifiable in that red hat guy immediately made a threatening comment to bitchslayer as soon as the fuss started.

as for bitchslayer, he made it clear that he didn't want any part of that nonsense as he was in the middle of focused practice for the 250+ player tournament's round of 16 the next day. he didn't hit dclock, he pushed the camera as far out of his space as dclock had pushed it in. it isn't like bitchslayer wound up and hit him with a right hook....had dclock not been leaning in and breathing alcohol all over him, he likely would not have suffered that SCRATCH from the camera. serves his dumbass right.

I agree. People have different personal zones, and if someone enters someone with maybe a bigger personal zone than others, and they don't know them and are being a pest, the human mind could perceive this as a threat and be willing to attack. BUT...

The thing people have to do these days, is to overcome this feature of the brains and control their baser instincts. As we are not in the jungle anymore. You can't attack people physically if they are just bothering you.

1. It shows a lack of control of your primitive brain (we are supposed to be an evolved species with higher level consciousness and thinking, yet can't overcome such minor inconviences as this?)
2. The law protects citizens from such low level, prehistoric behavior.


You can handle such situations in various ways without causing physical harm. The easiest way in this situation would be to go with the camera guy and make jokes. Typically if you are angry or don't go along with it people tend to keep pestering. If he would have went along with it, they would have had a joke and moved on.

Just Saying..

"The easiest way in this situation would be to go with the camera guy and make jokes. Typically if you are angry or don't go along with it people tend to keep pestering. If he would have went along with it, they would have had a joke and moved on."

Why bend over? To show how civilized you are?

What I want to know is, what is with all of these people that are like the guys with the camera? Why is it completely acceptable to harass someone anyway? To see if they can take a joke? And if they can, they're somehow supposed to not feel a bit mocked? I have a lot of "?"s in my post here, because I honestly don't understand it.
And looking at the people that actually have posted on that video, it looks like I'm not the only one that thinks it. I'm not in the "internet anonymity" mindframe, and I don't abide trolls that are actually hurting feelings.
The only people that say "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" is either a parent trying to make their kid feel better, or a verbal bully trying to get away with being a worthless piece of shit. I don't abide bully's, but I have a lot more respect for the "animal" in this video than the actual provocateurs, the slimebags with the camera.

Perception is everything. There is no right or wrong with anyone's subjective perception. But you can say, if you perceive things in a way that is something you would be bothered by, why perceive it like so? Yeah. I agree it could be quite annoying, but on the other hand you don't have to perceive it that way. Thus, you would not feel bothered. Sometimes are environment has us grow up to believe in things like "not bending over" "being a man". It ends up being a state of mind, "I have to be this tough guy and little things that other people do, I have to react in a manly manner or some how I will perceive myself less of a man."

Well, I'd say to be an evolved person we have to get beyond this. What kind of thinking and state of mind does this actually achieve? This kind of thinking leads to animal acts, things chimps and lesser evolved species do.


I grew up fighting and stuff. Always negative. Anything anyone did was fighting words to me. I see now though, that this was child and chimp like behavior. I wasn't using my evolved brain and it wasn't going anywhere, except for trouble with the law. So, I changed my perception on things and started to look at life with a more open mind.

We all are growing and learning. Some faster than others.

Someone once told me not to fight with ugly people, you'll never win, because What do they have to lose? if they get fucked up, they are already ugly.

"Perception is everything."

true

Finally an excuse why I always lose in fights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cayZL_TlDUY

Best clip on youtube :)

hahah pathetic clan. Well played czm.

Damn you cyberpunks, damn you!

QED

oh noes, you didnt let our chanceboy pass, why have you owned him, thats not fair, damn you czm, go awaaaaay.

i still lol.

Congratulations to CZM for leaving a clan apparently full of idiots.

I hope this is satirical humor. I don't know the people from 519 enough to decide for myself...

519 part ways with dignity should be a better name for this one.

Okay guys.. seeing as how the point has kind of evaded everyone somehow, let me be serious for one second.

This post was meant as joke, a little jab at CZM for being a math major who, and I quote "thought he could still go through" after going down 0-4. He's read it, and the report I heard was "thought it was funny" WHICH IT IS MEANT TO BE.

The serious side of it, wtf czm? you have a chance (no pun intended) to help your EG teammate go through to the final four, and a shot at some big money. Yet, you play for pride and suddenly find your A-game.. It was a great win for czm, chance is tough to beat on T4, just ask cypher or killsen. THAT said, it was still lame to take the game so seriously and not maybe lay off a little on ztn, that way giving chance a better shot at going through if he can beat killsen (which he DID, 2-1)

Because czm had dropped both his games to killsen, chance would have had to have beaten killsen 2-0 to progress (after losing to czm 2-0). If czm drops 1 game, chance can drop one game to killsen and still go through (math, you see).

Keep in mind that I'm not saying that chance would DEFINITELY have progressed had he had the extra pressure to beat killsen to get to the final four. But he did have an unbelievably amazing comeback on t4 (down 14 or 16 to 1) and came storming back to take the map. Ztn was a soft spot for chance in the tourney, as was nodm9. I was hoping and praying he'd find his A-game on ztn for killsen ,but kill proved to be in good solid shape on that map, and won nicely.. Chance is a beast on hub and took that game nicely, but it may have been a different story had killsen felt the pressure of having to win that game to progress. (he did after all, beat czm there just prior) Who knows what would have happened had that been the case?

All in all, just get your fingers out and stop clenching your buttcheeks so hard when you read something like this that is clearly a joke, aimed at czm, the princeton math whiz. I have a lot of respect for czm, and was as disappointed as any American when he wasn't able to step up his game for the cypher/killsen matches. He's a better player than that.. He knows it, 519 knows it.. we all know it. There was simply an opportunity for him to help a friend in need, and he either didn't recognize it or just was really amped up to prove that he's better than what he showed. Either way, I'm not seriously mad at him for not thinking to drop a map, just a little sad for chance, since it was a big make or break moment.

I've heard the two have since spoken about it (I actually called chance and informed him of the situation just after his k1llsen match, and he didn't even know it was the case, I was the one who told him) and are on friendly terms and the whole thing was just kind of a spur of the moment mess-up of odds making, thinking shit through, etc. Nobody is really mad here.. its a joke. Czm is still welcome to wear the 519 tag, the world is still turning. Relax, and congrats to the American players for a fine showing at this tourney.

clan519

it was still lame to take the game so seriously and not maybe lay off a little on ztn, that way giving chance a better shot at going through

No it wasn't :P Losing games on purpose is lame, and should be reason enough for disqualifying someone.

funny this site (possibly like you, dunno) still clings on coollers balls regardless.

Not sure what you mean there. I think cooller is a great player of course, but not my favorite one. That would be czm :P toxic as well, and fox, so there are several ones.

Somewhere back in the ancient history, Cooller dropped a map on purpose to knock ZeRo4 out of a tournament.

aw you were more fun before :D

Haha, that's what I thought! I knew it was some sort of satirical humor, but I've never read/seen anything by you guys before, so I didn't know if you did this stuff before.

As for the Chance thing....

This is Quake 1v1.

I know they're on the same gaming team, but they're individual players. Team EG is already a massive team that's done extremely well, they don't need a 3rd place at ESWC Finals to make their team get more sponsors/more fans.

If this was COD4, where people are working as an actual team, then yes, help your teammate during a match. But, this is 1v1. It doesn't matter WHO you play, you're there to represent your team, and do as good as you can individually.

This is the first time I've EVER heard someone get mad over not letting their teammate progress in a 1v1 tournament by losing to them.

Bah thread would have been better with more idiots commenting :P

you claim it's a joke but still go on with the bs...right

I was somewhat confused about that as well.

You're all idiots.

chance looks like a hillbilly, i would've done the same thing

yeah, if you could actually play quake

hence the 'would'

esportslol

Way to claim it as a joke to save face

idiota.

Bad joke when you

1. vave to explain it was a joke
2. you're not joking, see #100

Why didn't management step in and "suggest" that CZM drops first map but wins next two...I mean it's not like ye care about the result being credible seems as ye are pissed about it now, so why not be pre-emptive and take steps that Formula 1 teams would?

Instead ye leave it up to a player who is trying to comeback and is probably wounded (pride) after going 0-4...Not a smart management move to be honest.

cant believe people thought this was serious, wow

rofl, 519 never won anything substantial during the prime of Q3, not one thing

sorry you're still hyping yourself up wheat.

cK > stx > 4 other clans > 519

that's right, i'm being generous and putting you in the top 7.

the only reason 519 was ever even on the map was because pro players from other clans (nB etc.) got bored and joined your shithouse of failures periodically.

Butthurt much? And good job at bumping a two year old thread.

nah, we just took a bit longer to approve his post ;)

Didn't they win LA7? Surely they must have.

nope. LA7, or the unofficial 'world championship', was won by qpo, beating ic in the final. Can't remember what place 519 got, I don't even know if they made it out of their group.

They didn't afaik, they lost on ospdm5 to some UK/EU team by some small margin - however I do recall dues or vertex taking the piss out of them right on the buzzer LOL

haha, funny thing you say that, because that's exactly what I remember too. vertex saying something like 'lucky twats', because they won by a couple of frags in the final seconds.

Yeah I didn't think anyone would take my comment as being serious. They got raped at LA7 but they sure did talk a lot of shit before they got there.

Hahaha I would love to know who you are, anonymous.

I'm betting cK-spook or some other peripheral cK member who was proven to be highly overrated after we tonked your team several times in a row in major tourneys.

A simple IP whois shows the Anon comment is from Kansas. I seriously doubt Spook has ever been to Kansas much less made a post on ESReality from there.

Also this thread is retarded. Carry on.

how pathetic.

what is a czm??

He's the reason europe started training tdm.

I can only assume he dominated QW then.

a czm is like a cooller smart-wise only lacking the gift of being born on mothe russia where quake playes you, the edge to become the greatest ever. Feel free to continue asking and absorbing pure deathmatch knowledge my good friend, have a nice day.

lol, herpes.

oh wait. that was the office episode i just watched and not this discussion from 2 years ago that i browsed through for no apparent reason. yep.

Sounds to me like clan519 lost some ESR money on a bet he made!

And he is not pleased with it!

A good bump is a good bump, thx.

what are good headphones that cover the ear ?