The new CPL will do exactly what the new ESWC will do, cater to Asian E-sports and probably stick to that. It's much more profitable over there. I wouldn't blame them at all if they never did North American or European E-Sports again.

CPL died from money, WSVG from over spending from Intel, and CGS from budget issues. CPL was on its own with private investors, Intel provided funds for WSVG, and Direct TV + Other big companies for CGS. In Scott Valencia case, it could just be shitty luck three times in a row. He could of not touched a thing related to finances, and watched them go under. He could be just passionate about E-sports and want to keep working for it.

Or, he caused the demise of all three.

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CPL got stabbed in the back by Angel Munoz.

Then, when it was dead, he fucked every lost dollar out of it's skull.

out of those 3, cpl seems the most successful one though.

carmac snapped scott - http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=789349

ESWC will go to asia? Really?

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/24418-ESWC_O..._announced

They are now catering towards Asian E-sports, which right now is WC3 and SC.

Can't you just read?

Chinese Esports Open Game committee merged with China’s ESWC organiser as they introduced Electronic Sports World Cup Open Game 2009.

This isn't ESWC, it's ESWCOG : ]

Technically yes, but they merged together, so I just call it ESWC for now :)

better than just dying, I guess

this still has nothing to do with ESWC

Matlock'd

did everyone actually get all there prize money from CPL? I remember all the hoo har about it but never heard the outcome

There were a couple interviews with prize winners where the interviewer asked whether they got their money, their comments were, "no comment" or "my contract restricts me from discussing that" which makes me think that they are indeed receiving payments or something of that nature. Else what would restrict them from saying anything in interviews?

Probably all prize money was held in trust with a third party, maybe?

Actually, it would be the opposite. CPL restricts people from saying if they haven't give them money or not. If someone says CPL hasn't paid them, CPL doesn't have to pay them anymore.

So, take vo0 for example. Recently he said "no comment" to getting paid by CPL. If he HAD been paid, he would of said he had gotten the money, why wouldn't he say he did?

"No comment" is just a safeguard against the players still being able to get money from CPL.

So you're saying that he thinks he'll still get his money at this point? Or at least, when the interview was written? I think if he was holding out hope it might be that he has a reason to and probably that he's receiving payments or portions of the prize.

Otherwise, I think that all the players involved would think their chances shot at getting anything and probably would be very vocal in their condemnation of CPL. There's only so long that someone can be mum on not receiving their prize money before getting upset about it.

I agree with that, but if a company or business owed me $50,000 and told me I'd eventually get it, I wouldn't say a WORD to risk that amount of money. It wouldn't be worth it.

If someone says CPL hasn't paid them, CPL doesn't have to pay them anymore.

Which fantasy law system are you quoting from? The only reason he would say "no comment" would be if there was a contract with a clause that simply restricted him from saying anything. They probably just don't want to get sued for breach of contract, not any sort of fear of no future payment.

A better question (one that they can likely answer) is one that asks them if they are under contractual obligation to not reveal the status of the payment.

I say no comment because it's none of anyone's business, especially not yours.

But it's Gillz?

so if someone attended cpl china and won, what would you say the probability of them being paid is?

I'd say its the business of everyone that wants to attend a cpl tourney.

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antagonise!

gillz we had a deal that you must tell us when you learn a new word

I have never heard of the guy which is of no surprise to me.

Assuming he has nothing to do with the failure of any of the Organizations (and even if he did), I suppose he can give very valuable input on what works or doesn't work or how things work in this industry.

I wouldn't mind if they concentrated on the asian market.

No Q3 there - sure - but really, no-one cares about Q3.

And I fear QL time has passed already.

Why fear?

Because any possibilities of seeing a proper FPS hitting the mainstream will be gone forever, and the new era of pro-gaming faggotry will rise, 2012 my friend.

Live and let die

As was quoted in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... "Oh no, not again" (followed by a long fall and a >>crash<<).

This guy is a plague on E-Sports and it's no surprise that he had to go somewhere where his reputation didn't precede him.

The definition of insanity is trying the same things repeatedly and expecting a different result. Clearly Scott is unable to balance a budget ... why try again?

i suspect he's made a nice personal gain from those failures.

It seems a bit odd that they have now removed the english press release link from www.thecpl.cn also...

Chinese censorship!

Just FYI, the page is still up, what they deleted was the link.
http://www.thecpl.cn/News.htm