"removed by author" :(

fixed, uploaded them to tinypic for now.

If you have game informer maganize for august 2009 can you also upload the part of it with "epic and people can fly"

thanks

can you show me the meaning of pain?

doesn't look like anything special

More like: It looks like something special, but it isn't.

it looks fucking amazing, wide open spaces with new gameplay elements, isn't that what everyone wanted?

Wide open spaces. That's what I personally don't like =/
And new gameplay elements? If you mean racing, I don't want any new gameplay element. I want Quake1-like singleplayer.

at least its not another mainstream garbage like call of duty

Adding stuff like regenerative health, driving etc. are signs that it will be more geared towards mainstream than hardcore shooter fans. How can you be sure it will not be garbage? The last good single player game from id was Quake 2.

are you kidding me? what was wrong about modern warfare sp?

cod series is about as imaginative as recreating ww2 or "modern warfare" over and over until no one gives a shit about games that have anything to do with those settings

wat

cod4 is the most popular fps ever

itym cs and it still sucks.

CS didn't sell nine million copies in a year.

It's a repetitive totally linear duck shoot vs zero AI enemies.

You fight crap soldiers from beginning to end with the odd helicopter or tank thrown in as if it's something special, not even attempting to give you something as simple as making you fight other special forces (ie enemies that aren't thick).

You also use pretty much the same guns from beginning to end and the combination of it's pacing and tying you to a squad leaves you very little room to play around with each encounter, in the same way HL2 EP2 is fecking annoying by giving you Alyx to look after 24/7.

It also re-spawns enemies unless you play the scenario how it wants you to play it.

It's one of the worst FPS games I've played in recent years, but it's got so much gloss and everyone seems to have forgotten what a good FPS is like...

yeah thats the most annoying thing i find with cod games, infinite waves of enemies until u move to a certain point etc

and this too : if you don't go at the intended pace but rush, chances are you'll pop up in a respawn room (which seemed empty 2 sec before) with 5 freshly respawned enemies, and die
cod4 isn't a bad game, but isn't very good neither ; kind of average gameplay if you like to play with your style rather than being infinity ward string puppet

i mean if you dont like fps where you have ai support characters and you dont like fighting a lot of enemies and you dont like linear gameplay, then its obviously not going to please you.
for me, all this is fine. every cod game has tons of easy enemies and i can enjoy both linear and non linear shooter cause both have their pros and cons. the atmosphere that cod4 creates would be impossible to do in free environment. maybe you should just go with the flow of the game or leave it at all and play something like stalker

Wolf 3D was less linear than CoD4 for chirsts sake.

If they gave you quake 1 singleplayer today, you'd find it crap. Times change, so do standards.

He said "Quake1-like", not "Quake 1."

And that's what I replied to. Go trolling elsewhere.

You replied as if he wanted Quake 1 singleplayer, when he specifically said "Quake1-like." You jumped the gun on trying to call me a troll too early, and you gave yourself away. It's okay, there's always more room on my ignore list.

do it, reply to him some more and join me on his ignore list.

It's where the cool people hang out :D

I'd very much enjoy a classic FPS id style (not PK/SS style).

closest modern game to q1 is painkiller ; new one gonna be released at the end of the year

I hope it'll be better than Overdose, because that wasn't as good as the original Painkiller.

PK is not Quake 1, but... yeah, like you said it's the closest modern game to it.

pk overdose was an amateur mod that People Can Fly bought to then sell it as a regular game, so I'm confident about the next pk since it should be made by PCF and not just bought from an amateur mod team

Overdose was made by Mindware Studios which was first intended as a free mod..

PK:R is made by Homegrown games, a studio mixed with some amateurs from the PK Scene and some professionals. Some say that they got some guys from the old PCF-Team.

ha ok
I hope it will be good

do want!

they don't want you to use a mouse

fuck you id

they don't want people using a mouse while they're developing the game because they want it playable on console
obviously they expect you to use a mouse on a PC

but made for controller then adapted to pc is bound to be shit, as always

Why?

because a controller is handicapped. like playing football/soccer with steel toe caps on, perhaps that is a good analogy.

Doesn't mean the game needs to be handicapped.

All they are saying is that they are making sure it is playable and fun with a controller. This doesn't imply that it will be unplayable and boring with a keyboard and mouse.

sorry to dissapoint you, but it does mean that =)

Sadly il probably get this for the 360, i aint upgrading my pc again for a game thats probably gonna be a half decent single player at best..

If it will work on xbox, it will fly on any decent PC.

There'll probably be different graphics. If the do it right. Like Rock Star with the GTA games. They always look better on PC than console (not sure on GTA4, haven't played it yet).

The landscapes are truly impresive. They look like an animated movie. The fps part looks like more of the same old ID thing.

Looks good :/

i never get interested in a game but I really do like the visuals =\

I remember those times that I never thought some day I would be so indifferent about an id game :<

its doom3 with vehicles :D

http://www.aftertheimpact.com/

We'll see, looking forward to this, really dig the graphics so far.

Hope the story is good. Although it seems quite fallout so far, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing.

thanks for the scans btw willow

I must say I really like that post-apocalyptic thing thye have going on, kinda reminds me of a Texas version of Mad Max II.

yeah apocalypse scenarios are always fun. you should play fallout 3 if you havent

yeah...doom 3 looked awesome too..played like shit..but looked awesome...

quake wars looked awesome too...played like shit...but looked awesome...

quake 4 looked awesome...hmm noticing a pattern...id turned into Epic when we werent paying attention.

quake wars or quake 4 did not look awesome(and were not really made by id, to be honest, although they did have the logo on the packaging and did quite a bit of decision making).

Doom 3 was fun and awesome for two hours, then repetition set in.

I think they could do a lot better on this if they learn their lesson.

carmack says in this scanned paper that doom 3 was too long and repetitive and rage will have more variety

More variety than sewer installation #24 and recycling plant #13 and lab facility #38?

!!!

Will suck worse than ET:QW.

Heh..I like the little info box on the last page, where they brag about how they are one of the few developers in the world, that has complete flexibility when it comes do deadlines, and this in turn allows them to polish their games.
Quake 3 polished? Nah..
Quake 4? Not really
ET:QW? Nope..
Doom 3? lol..

Polished should mean they have time to add extra things, that other developers don't have the time to focus on. It should be a luxury but instead we rely on third party moders to come up with 95% of the stuff that we need for competitive play. Quake 3 would have been dead without OSP in the early years, and CPMA in the last. GTV was and still is a joke, MVD support didn't come from ID, the netcode isn't more smooth than EPIC or Valves titles. Even in UT from 1999 we could change the hud in more ways out of the box than in any ID title and so on.

Polished should mean they have time to add extra things, that other developers don't have the time to focus on. It should be a luxury but instead we rely on third party moders to come up with 95% of the stuff that we need for competitive play.

I think polish in most developers sense is making the game mod friendly to begin with, which only a handful of developers do.

Does the article mention anything about how mod-friendly Rage will be?

Yeah, you understood that part perfectly.

I see you didn't

lol...15,6k posts since 2004

a wopping 8 posts a day on average

OH MY GAWD

go visit any major popular forum and watch people rack up an easy 20k in the space of a year

lol...15,3k

U HAVE OVER ONE THOUSAND POSTS U FECKIN NERD I HATE U DIE

HADOUKEN!

lol looking at user profiles.

That is for rookies, I just hover my cursor over the names. Boo-yah!

takes two second.

Could write 2 comments in that time.

sure mr. 25 gigantic posts per day.

!

then you wouldn't know when he registered, now would you

Yeah and I didn't post for roughly a year at one point too!

polish for you != polish for the general consumer

"furia"

Polish for the Polish customer!


/edit

owned by esr letters :(

fkn poles ruining everything

...

jebus

you sir, needs to do your research..

only game developed in house was doom 3, and carmack addressed it's issues.. so stop crying, and move on.. play some cod, and stop talking shit about the founder of FPS games as we have 'em today!..

EDIT: q3 too ofc.. and polish != competitive features..

polish != competitive features..

QFT

curious to see how the engine and the netcode will handle
really curious to see the editor too ; and the mega texture stuff rendering

idTech 5 (in some form) would be really interesting to see on the iPhone, but I wonder if they would be able to do a project with it and keep the $10 price point. Doom Resurrection seems to be doing alright, but who knows if it meets their expectations.

Here's hoping Carmack will do it either way.

iphone processor will not be powerful enough to run id-tech 5, give or take 20 years. Give up on the day dreams till then.

I'm gonna trust Carmack's judgement over yours in this matter, sorry.

He didn't say it would be the full id-tech 5, though. ;)

Holy crap, there are (brownish green, practically dead) plants in Rage. Progress?

am i the only one that thought the flash light thing was a thing of genius?

your confusing it with the fleshlight

i wish i didn't know what one was

Good idea, made the game more tense just didn't make sense :/

cant shoot a shotgun onehanded...

i think the people that didnt like it were just too scared.

Yeah.

I like it when developers actually create an interesting mechanic like that, even if it was just because Carmack was worried about FPS issues.

I did like it too, but it was overdone. The hardware most of us had didn't help either.

still had my trusty gf3 ;P not sufficient..

I liked it, it was fun making shots based on the positions you saw before switching.

Add it to pmx!

nope :(

pussy!

are you scared of the dark???

:P

Nope as in nope you're not the only one. I found the flashlight only awesome, added so much to the atmosphere and made the game extremely tense, which is what it should be when you are alone on a mars base facing hellish demons!

ah ok, ye it really was great!

flashlight on shotgun's little mod ftw

Nice cartoon craphics

I thought DOOM 3 sold really well.

I recall Carmack writing on his rocket engineering-blogg (after the $35,000 rocket unexpectedly blew up) that "It’s a good thing Doom 3 is selling very well.."

when have facts ever stopped a rant?

D3 is their bast selling game so far

looks hot, SHIP IT!

looks dull as crap, ooo zombies!

everything is shit from your pov, mate. you're turning into the new Vedic.

take the pink glasses off. it's crap.

didn't look at it. dun care about new games.

let me give you a heads up: it's crap.

there's only one thing i care less about than new computer games. guess, what it is.

T_T

i always liked that smiley.

weeping-like-mad-pool-o-water, smiley?

girls?

You're turning into the new Becks.

how?

he probably feels threatened or something :D

didn't look at it. dun care about new games.

Making comments about a subject that you don't understand.

read: disagreeing with vedic = not understanding.

nice reply

hardly a reply, since he put me on ignore.

more an explanation.

where did i .... oh, fuck you.

YOUR MOUTHTRICKS WILL NOT WORK ON ME, VENTRILOQUIST!

where do you want me to put them? D=

y so plstc?


nah, i actually like the way this game looks. nice use of colour as opposed to d3/q4.

yup, it still looks very plasticky on the teaser videos. haven't they learned anything?

apart from the slime coating, i kinda like the way it looks. it's not as vivid as Q3 but definitely better than D3 / Q4.

not as vivid as a 10 yr old game? now that's a compliment..

well, i think q3 at full detail looks better than 90% of the games available today.

They look better when you aren't running them on lowest settings.

i don't

Looks pretty, but you can just tell everything else about it will be mediocre (physyics/gameplay/speed etc.)

fuck graphics, what counts is gameplay.

especially since consoles are holding down graphics since a few years now (pc-only games development being almost completely dead cause of warez since majority of people got large enough bandwidth to pirate)

Not really, the PC audience seems to be far stricter than the console audience.

On consoles all sorts of shit FPS games are considered good and sell quite well. On the PC they don't even get pirated.

what does it have to do with what I've said ?

Was disagreeing it's about piracy.

piracy killed pc games dev, you disagree with that ?

Yes:
- More people have consoles than games worthy PCs
- More people on consoles don't know what a good game is
- Console games are more expensive
- Console gamers are more easily led by magazine(s) and hype

Thus consoles have a bigger market of people who have no idea what makes a good game who are willing to splash more cash on them.

The piracy levels aren't actually that big for PC games (There are exceptions of course but that's usually due to the lack of demos), it's just that you can't get away with releasing a sub-standard product as much as you can on consoles.

"The piracy levels aren't actually that big for PC games"
evidence ?
imo it's huge, and that's the n°1 factor why video game industry went to consoles market
anyway, whatever, all that is just opinions tennis, useless blabling when lacking facts

just for the sake of it : it's just that you can't get away with releasing a sub-standard pc product since we-the-leet-pc-gamers-not-these-stupid
-consoles-monkeys-bastards gonna easily pirate it without any remorse

It's not the number one factor that's for sure, the market is just much bigger and forgiving on consoles.

Piracy is just as easy on consoles to be honest. It's not about being "leet PC gamers", just look at all the games that sell on consoles that are terrible by any standards.

AFAIK only for ps3 no exploit was released until today, so on every other console you can pirate games as you would with a pc. Also, don't most new games come with a licence key for online play like q3? That's a pretty good solution I would think...

it's easier to pirate on pc ; first, in order to pirate on console you have to have a pc (and not be a total newbie at it too) to get the iso, etc. more work, less easy (and for some consoles cracking them means put a hardware mod, which means your garanty will be dead -something you would not do with a xbox360)

licence keys for online play : I've played cod4 on cracked servers with a cracked key (the only thing that prevented me continuing was that PB at some point has been removed of these servers and a tsunami of cheaters flowed in and ruined the game -smart move) ; every mp game is nowaday cracked to be played online either be on a kind of vpn stuff or cracked dedicated servers

It's true that pirating is a lot easier nowadays. I guess it's time for some new marketing ideas for the gaming industry.

Quake Live seems promising in terms of a new strategy, also Blizzard with their battlenet and Valve with steam are selling pretty good aren't they?

I think piracy will never be so "mainstream" that game developers go out of business. Musicians still make money, piracy didn't kill the music business, and I think nowadays everyone has a few (illigal) downloaded mp3 somewhere saved....

Actually I would like to see bittorrent die, because then it would at least take some effort again to get warez.

Also, do not underestimate the power of marketing and hype. Those gamers who look pedantic for every info and detail of a game before buying it are not the majority

pirating is too mainstream now. there is just too much of it, that's why graduated repression laws are poping out there and there ; warez needs to be back to the few power users

I guess big marketing and hype for hollywoodstyle blockbusters games is made for the youngers and/or the stupids, those who arn't really able -yet- or willing to pirate (editors arn't afraid of puting big money in it)

quake live could be so much better (and furthermore, easily for the most part, imo), could be (have been ?) successful

one thing for sure, the "I've found a software/hardware way to prevent pirating" will never work, it would just be another game for crack teams

valve seems to be going good, partly because of the steam platform, selling other companies games ; otherwise they get their share of pirating. hl² must be top ten pirated game or something ; maybe hence why they concentrate on mp games (tf2, l4d, l4d2)

one thing for sure, the "I've found a software/hardware way to prevent pirating" will never work, it would just be another game for crack teams

Sony did an amazing thing with the ps3, they build in the ability to run linux on it (a bit crippled, without the graphic acceleration or smth., but still)! They eliminated the main drive for hackers, the challenge.

That's why counter-measures for preventing piracy or cheating are bound to fail. It's like an endless game between hackers and developers, but the hackers prove to be more skilled, innovative, and almost always persevere time and time again, because that's what they love to do.

Piracy is the #1 excuse for moving to the console market. The truth is that PC gamers are much more selective than console gamers. A lot of the PC gamers I know primarily plays online games. It ranges from Quake to WoW, but few of them play a lot of single player. The people I know who are primarily console gamers, play primarily single player or offline games. After seeing some of the shit they buy, I can understand why game developers like the console market so much. The console market has a lot more people willing to buy bad or mediocre games than the PC market and most of the games coming out today are not even worth the bandwidth to pirate them, much less the amount they charge for them in the stores. The game companies see that they sell more of their crap on consoles, so they decide to focus on that. However they don't want to burn bridges so they use piracy as their excuse for moving to console.

mad max + fallout = failed FPS.

LMAO@6:45 and 8:10
http://splicd.com/7MoeDK5asv0/250/539

Mad max 1 and 2 were great.

looks like id is stuck in 1997
all the singleplayers they released since q2 were utter shit
why don't they focus on stuff they - at least were - good at?
MULTIPLAYER

MP games don't seem to sell like SP.

+ they are doing quakelive and giving it away for free.

no they're not
a) see call of duty 4 (there has been some debate on the 'bonus round' at gametrailers.com about sp vs mp vs coop etc - i suggest you watch that)
b) not doing ql (as in they changed jackshit in the 12+ months since the beta started so basically their effort is close to 0 and its just another way to make money off ads)
c) not giving it away for free (see the ads bit)

A) One example isn't enough to change the basic fact the majority of games need to be single player.
Secondly COD has a big MP base, quake has small player base in comparison, so it needs something to attract people who don't quake.

B) That's a pretty childish perspective. The game is still being developed and better than most the crap you get on consoles.
The changelog has been updated in that time.

C) Almost everything is ad based. Even this website.

Its free in the sense that you don't have to pay for it.
So its free in the deepest sense.

They aren't but 'their' community is.
So every game that doesnt look like a quake1 game is shit, telling from one screenshot, of course.