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ESL-TV QL inv - Playday #4 (167 comments)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by xou @ 11:00 CDT, 30 July 2009 - iMsg

Event: ESL-TV QL Inv

Update 3: The VoD of the show is now available.

Update 4: The winners of the 3 competitions are now known.

Winners

The very last Playday of the ESL-TV QL Invitational sponsored by Razer will take place this Thursday. Only one out of the 4 players will be able to compete with

LLL*fox,

noctis and

spart1e on the 3rd of August for the Finals.

The four contenders for 100€ in this Playday #4 will be

k1llsen,

GaB|GUard, ~~srs/rzr/cypher~~

[aAa] link1n and

YYT|calipt. As usual the show hosted by

2GD and

Joe will start at 11:00 CST.

Also, you can now vote in polls on ESR to give the r_picmip and cg_fov you would like ESL-TV to use for QuakeLive's streaming!

Playday #4 matches

Playday #4 Razer competitions

Global schedule

Map pool

Show streaming: ESL-TV, Alternative host - Premium is only available on ESL-TV's website.
ESL-TV - Razer -

#esl-tv.ql - Coverage: fnatic & fragster (DE)

Edited by xou at 11:37 CDT, 2 August 2009 - 58702 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 11:27 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

sonic

Best casters evar.

<< Comment #2 @ 11:38 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #1

true, but during the last they were a bit annoying when they missed the start on t7. they went into the game @ 1:20 (sucks, but it can happen) but talked shit for another 2mins and the real commentating didnt start before 3:30 :(

<< Comment #3 @ 11:57 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #2

The whole commentary was absolutely terrible until the final games between fox and draven. They were commentating some play then suddenly went off topic for no apparent reason and when I thought 2gd had finally finished brabbling about bullshit because he paused for a second he just lowered his voice a tone and went on for another half minute.

<< Comment #5 @ 12:15 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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sonic - Reply to #3

I prefer the commentry to the games :/

<< Comment #7 @ 12:36 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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neb - Reply to #3

it's not like you don't know whats going on..

<< Comment #20 @ 13:06 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #7

I also know what's going on while watching some football game on TV but that doesn't mean I could stand the commentator talking about taking his wife out to dinner or his general feelings about the state of the economy and neither would the millions of other football enthusiasts who are trying to enjoy the game with good commentary.

2gd and Joes commentary was excellent on the showmatch/qualification day but since then it has gone steadily downhill with hitting bottom yesterday when they missed the start of a map and still didn't manage to go back on topic.

I know most people on here know both commentators and some of them might actually be interested in their off topics but the new viewers who are drawn in by the prospect of watching some high level Quake Live with commentary don't know them and are not interested in hearing them go on and on about stupid shit

Edited by btl at 13:18 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #24 @ 14:12 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #20

just stfu and stop whining just because of one fuck upd map..

<< Comment #27 @ 14:51 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Magician - Reply to #24

you telling others to stop whining?

thats classic

<< Comment #29 @ 15:23 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #24

NO YOU STOP WHINING :-(

<< Comment #106 @ 15:43 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #24

if you are not gonna stop saying other to stop whinning I'm gonna call for draven to rail the shit out of you :P

<< Comment #31 @ 19:10 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #20

to be fair the games they went off topic were the one sided blow outs, not sure they could of really added much to them.

<< Comment #48 @ 11:36 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ddk - Reply to #20

i agree, the banter was making me cringe so badly.. they need to step it up in professionalism for sure. just have to take tasteless and sdm as examples in starcraft, their banter is always humourous and most importantly, professional; even if it's offtopic. but normally it is on-topic and they give good insights into the scenes and players, the news that's happening and so on, which makes it very interesting. but i'm sad to say they aren't taking it seriously enough, trying to be witty far too much and so on.

Edited by ddk at 11:37 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #123 @ 17:38 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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2GD - Reply to #48

trying to be witty? wtf dan u loser, we were just messing about

<< Comment #8 @ 12:38 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

klaovhwN - Reply to #3

so serious.

enjoy the cast, and stream. or mute it, like they mentioned ;O

<< Comment #10 @ 12:44 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #8

Or they could just focus on the reason most people tune in on the show and for the few who enjoy hearing guys tell stories about people having a barbecue or whose birthdays are coming up there's always daytime television talk shows.

Or maybe I'm wrong and the majority actually enjoys off topics while watching (e)sports. You could be on to something here.

<< Comment #28 @ 14:58 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #10

Jeez, it's not like the games were very inspiring either. No wonder they are going to talk about bbq's with their mother when people are getting raped 20-0 in the first 3 minutes. What else is their to talk about?

Just be glad carmac is not anywhere near that microphone with his nasal monotone drivel.

<< Comment #11 @ 12:46 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #8

or give feedback to the caster? o0
most ppl (including me) enjoy the way 2gd does his casts and that includes just talking about stuff and whatever shit goes thorugh his mind sometimes :D but when its too much, he should also get to know that imho

<< Comment #25 @ 14:13 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #11

agreed

<< Comment #33 @ 09:25 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

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2GD - Reply to #3

games were abit of a blow out, but next show ill keep it all pro :)

<< Comment #35 @ 05:33 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #33

mate, don't listen to these idiots, keep doing what your doing its fun for most of us :)

<< Comment #94 @ 14:55 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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technics - Reply to #33

WHAT?!??! :P u betting beer on that?

<< Comment #108 @ 16:07 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #3

I strongly disagree.

<< Comment #19 @ 13:04 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Joe - Reply to #2

Missing the start of T7 was a mistake that just went bye as Jay was showing people around the map. I didnt notice the start but I dont think its that big of a deal considering how the map went anyway.

BTW, you can always send feedback and we will try to improve! You can send feedback (good or bad) to joe@esl.eu :)

<< Comment #21 @ 13:28 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #19

well as i said, that can happen, my point was that that you two basicly wasted another 2 after that
now the map was very one sided, but that also means the start was the only interesting part and the game was decided after a few mins
im not here to hate, the casting as a whole was still great and i kinda felt that you contributed more than in the first show(s)
im writing this here so other users can also comment about it cause maybe most ppl dont share my view. and so far it felt like you guys also read the news about the show, so i thought it a fine way of giving feedback

<< Comment #32 @ 01:36 CDT, 29 July 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #19

I don't mind a little bit of offtopic casting.

But it's funny to see you offering your mail address, when you have all the information regarding the casts here on ESR. That reminds me on SyncError who said: "any feedback/criticism to syncerror@idsoftware.com please", when he is reading all the important information on ESR anyways. It's like having him (or yourself) say: "Guys, there's too much going on on ESR. I can't keep up. Please keep me posted and mail me any Quake Live discussion. Thanks!"

€: <3 ESR!11

Edited by unHuman at 01:37 CDT, 29 July 2009

<< Comment #36 @ 05:35 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #32

yea right 99% of the stuff written on esr is pure garbage

<< Comment #30 @ 17:30 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Jamerio : - Reply to #1

:)

Edited by Jamerio at 17:31 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #40 @ 11:18 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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link - Reply to #30

rofl! that must be really old

<< Comment #49 @ 11:45 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #30

classic :o)

<< Comment #124 @ 17:39 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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2GD - Reply to #30

17! :) and winner of the savlan rocket arena 1v1 tournament. owned everyone!

<< Comment #125 @ 17:41 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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calleking - Reply to #124

:D

<< Comment #126 @ 17:41 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

calleking - Reply to #124

smirky smile

<< Comment #134 @ 03:35 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #124

Holy cow! That's you! :D:D:D:D I had no clue who this was until you commented.

<< Comment #144 @ 08:11 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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rockz ' - Reply to #124

hhaha Ôo

<< Comment #4 @ 12:04 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

son1dow

Did ESR just lag at 20:00 EEST because of the bets ? :(
I tried to place a bet but failed to load the page up until 20:01 on two computers.

Edited by son1dow at 12:04 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #6 @ 12:24 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou

Vote for the picmic and fov to be used in next show's streaming!

<< Comment #9 @ 12:44 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Furore - Reply to #6

Isn't this a delicate issue because of the way the stream is encoded? Using lower picmip gives nicer textures, but results in harsher compression and increases artefacts, possibly making it look worse and/or harder to follow. I'm out of my depth here, but someone reading this will know.
Just throwing it open to a poll could be a bit dangerous because generally people would rather look at nicer textures when speccing (I can see already picmip 0 is winning), but might wrongly assume the stream would transmit this higher quality flawlessly.
Someone with a clue can reply to this (maybe you), or I would suggest at least testing it (maybe internally).

EDIT: Judging by how the commentators look the stream isn't that compressed and it probably would look fine with higher qual textures...

Edited by Furore at 12:57 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #13 @ 12:50 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #9

I definitely can't reply to that since I'm a total video streaming newb.

<< Comment #23 @ 13:36 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #6

can't we vote on jay keeping his egotistical comments to wow wednesdays :)

<< Comment #12 @ 12:49 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Lethe

delayed?

<< Comment #14 @ 12:50 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #12

ye 2 days :/

j/k

Edited by xou at 12:50 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #16 @ 12:52 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Lethe - Reply to #14

trickY bastardZ

<< Comment #15 @ 12:51 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Six16

Youve forgot to change the names of #3 winners xou!

I WON :D

/also ur doing a fantastic job with this stuff dude!

<< Comment #17 @ 12:56 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #15

You won in #2, not in #3

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1723915

<< Comment #18 @ 13:03 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #17

ah, ur right, doh :)

That ones still wrong tho :[

Edited by d3c4y at 13:03 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #22 @ 13:34 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #18

What's wrong?

<< Comment #26 @ 14:17 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #22

nevermind im going crazy

<< Comment #34 @ 02:06 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

GUArd

ok ok ok, who wants win "guess 1st frag, pm me!" :D

<< Comment #37 @ 08:00 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Weird ' - Reply to #34

wha!?!t you don't want a mousepad yourself ?

<< Comment #38 @ 09:46 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

GUArd - Reply to #37

nah , im gay, not zofil, i dont need mousepads! if it was gaypad, i would take it for sure!

<< Comment #39 @ 11:04 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

xou

bump'd!

<< Comment #41 @ 11:19 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #39

THX!!!!

Really bored of that fucking Starcraft comps always on top, there are always a tourney or a interview or something strange from chinese/korea/japan ppl. Put it on a forum plz :/ just my opinion :)

Edited by ChOu at 11:21 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #43 @ 11:24 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #41

You can filter the SC news if you don't like them:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=editfilter

<< Comment #45 @ 11:29 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #43

He has a point though. If I take a look at the sc news posts, I don't see a lot of threads with > 20 comments.

<< Comment #46 @ 11:35 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #43

YESSSSSSSSSS! Thank you xou

<< Comment #42 @ 11:24 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Gladius

wow, this will be close. haven't seen killsen or guard play QL, and I don't know a thing about that calipt dude, other than his nick. Won't be betting tonight, no sir!

<< Comment #44 @ 11:27 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy

be nice if the stream on esl didn't require an octagon plugin, bloody work permissions can't install it : D

<< Comment #47 @ 11:35 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #44

same here :(

<< Comment #50 @ 12:01 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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illogic - Reply to #44

this works for me without the plugin

http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-free/old

<< Comment #51 @ 12:02 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #50

says "there is a problem connecting to the live stream" is it up yet or what?

<< Comment #53 @ 12:07 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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illogic - Reply to #51

it didn't start yet but the streaming works.

<< Comment #54 @ 12:08 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #53

just says "there is a problem connecting to the esl live stream" [PROBLEM] haha : D

<< Comment #55 @ 12:10 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #54

same here

<< Comment #56 @ 12:11 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #55

vods work fine, must be some streaming gay technology :( they need quakelive-tv setup :o

<< Comment #52 @ 12:03 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #50

Holy shit! It needs Flashplayer 10, that isnt installed in my computer, AND CANNOT DOWNLOAD IT! FFS!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #57 @ 12:12 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Kaide

great, no jon and cypher not even playing :/

<< Comment #59 @ 12:13 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #57

cypher has pulled out? think he was afraid of facing fox in the next round :]

<< Comment #61 @ 12:15 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Kaide - Reply to #59

well, considering what 2gd said "If anyone can see him anywhere in irc or contact him by any way please tell him to pm.. and so on. Its VERY unlikely that he'll show up :S

<< Comment #62 @ 12:16 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #61

gay!!!! :o))) oh well i can't watch it anyways so not to bad ;p - cant' you make the next round like 1 hour later so i can get home from work :|

<< Comment #58 @ 12:13 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm

carmac \o/

<< Comment #60 @ 12:15 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

ArNoz

Cypher won't show up ?!
Does anyone know why ?

<< Comment #63 @ 12:24 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Six16

stream looks alot better than picmip 3, tis not so much blurred, but i think it shud get changed to 10+!

Edited by d3c4y at 12:37 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #64 @ 12:25 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy

ok time to run home and try make the final game : D go gogo1

<< Comment #65 @ 12:39 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ChOu

Confirm that Cypher wont play to give us a chance to win the Comp #3!!! hehehe

<< Comment #66 @ 12:41 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #65

Ive already changed mine to BYE for Calipt

Edited by d3c4y at 12:41 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #69 @ 13:27 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p54B71592.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)

carmac > 2GD

<< Comment #110 @ 16:12 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #69

Joe > *

<< Comment #67 @ 13:08 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm

cypher is a joke. he should have at least tell the ppl involved that he is not able to play

<< Comment #72 @ 13:45 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #67

Maybe he's not able to.

<< Comment #74 @ 13:49 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #72

then he should call his manager
a lot of thing have to come together that he cant reach anyone o0

<< Comment #76 @ 13:51 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #74

You don't know, so don't knock him.

<< Comment #77 @ 13:53 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #76

oh come on, cypher never cares and thats annoying
if something like this happens once, fine, i wont judge someone, but if it happens again and again...

<< Comment #68 @ 13:23 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Gladius

w00t, goooo linkin! lol @ hurting his hand, just like in that q3 2on2 tournament a while ago. too much tennis again?

<< Comment #70 @ 13:31 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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hkrep

Is it me or does 2GD seem annoyed by Carmac alot?

<< Comment #73 @ 13:45 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #70

Ive noticed Carmac seems to regurgitate alot of jays comments!

<< Comment #79 @ 14:09 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (208.71.235.4) - Reply to #70

I agree hkrep. It seems like he won't let Carmac talk much, or make tactical statements. Atleast it seemed that way during k1llsen vs. Guard. Specifically during T7, Carmac makes a statement and 2GD quickly interrupts and states he previously made the statement whilst voraciously going back to action, albeit in a hurried fashion. I must say I'd prefer to hear Carmac a bit more, though I have been in and out of the room. 2GD, stop interrupting so much please. :) I'd really like to hear what he has to say.

<< Comment #83 @ 14:33 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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hkrep - Reply to #79

Oh I didn't mean it like that :) I actually prefer 2GD's insights over Carmac's.

Edited by hkrep at 14:34 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #71 @ 13:44 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Derb_

carmac was acting like an asshole in teh beginning. big shit over mispronouncing a name faggot bitch. dont bring this fuck back for final

<< Comment #75 @ 13:50 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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neb

carmac was obviously talking with angel munoz before the show.

<< Comment #78 @ 13:54 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Mr.Yes

that new caster, buuuuuu, stop talking plz !

<< Comment #80 @ 14:14 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #78

Carmac ownz you bitch.

<< Comment #81 @ 14:18 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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sch.

Carmac on the beginning didn't talk too much and he
seemed to be stressed or smth but now it looks really really better

Edited by sch. at 14:34 CDT, 30 July 2009

<< Comment #82 @ 14:31 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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supra`

l1nkin got completely fucked by the starting spawns on t4...was pretty hard for him to come back after that

<< Comment #84 @ 14:34 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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c1

wp killsen

<< Comment #85 @ 14:37 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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xou

phew, it's over!

<< Comment #86 @ 14:38 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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exp!

i prefer obviously to hear carmac with his insights rathen than joe who pretty much just comments what happens on the screen.
carmac for the win! \o/

<< Comment #87 @ 14:40 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #86

I prefer Joe to Carmac myself, carmac just doesnt make sense half the time!

<< Comment #103 @ 15:21 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #86

that's why Joe is the play by play, and 2gd is the expert you dummy

<< Comment #88 @ 14:42 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm

gratz k1llsen \o/

didn think carmac would do such a great job, but he did a really nice cast

jay sort out your cfg...

<< Comment #89 @ 14:42 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

roychez

I rather listen to Joe. His voice is much better, and it's always better to have one person asking the question (Joe) and one expert (Jay). Carmac sounds like Borat, but not funny :P

<< Comment #90 @ 14:45 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Malice - Reply to #89

Carmac just has very good knowledge of things, but I'm not exactly sure if he's top quality shoutcasting material. I definitely liked the joe/james combo a lot more... if it were just for the fact that they weren't constantly grabbing for eachother's throat (figuratively -- except for that one moment then).

<< Comment #91 @ 14:47 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p5B356AA4.dip.t-dialin.net)

you see carmac has way better experience on journalism.
2gd was also telling about things like: ready up, im spawning servers, etc etc (thats not professional; no offense 2gd i like what ur doing) ,,, carmac was trying to cut that off and take this esl broadcast a step beyond.

everything went as expected, gamewise.

linkin did well on dm6, awesome rocket guess on the pillars, that destroyed any possible comeback.

<< Comment #92 @ 14:49 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #91

There was some really bad luck tonight with players and QuakeLive. It forced 2GD to get his mind on other stuff during the show :/

<< Comment #93 @ 14:51 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #91

its sad though that 2gd has to do this stuff in the first place. would be better if he could just focus on casting. cant xou get the rights to spawn servers etc?

<< Comment #100 @ 15:16 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #93

I wish :d

<< Comment #151 @ 13:51 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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therogue - Reply to #100

mmm can fix that :p

<< Comment #158 @ 04:59 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #151

o rly?

<< Comment #164 @ 10:49 CDT, 2 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #151

Tell me more!!

<< Comment #166 @ 15:20 CDT, 2 August 2009 >>

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therogue - Reply to #164

will sort you out tomorrow

<< Comment #95 @ 14:58 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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trippy

carmac is like the susan boyle of commentating

<< Comment #99 @ 15:16 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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brz - Reply to #95

ugly virgin?

<< Comment #113 @ 16:32 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #99

2easy

<< Comment #96 @ 15:02 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

By

Putton

gg killsen and sick aim by link1n :) i enjoyed the cast, they did both a great job. in my opinion 2gd is just trying to entertain the audience and that is what counts. an active "advanced" player doenst need the cast at all in order the analyse the games or something like that..
so i think for the majority they did quite well and their aim should be to promote the game itself and gettin lots of new players. perhaps we'll find more tournies with bigger pricemoney in the future.

keep on goin!

<< Comment #97 @ 15:04 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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juM8o

imo carmac and 2gd didnt really fit together too well. Everytime (before the last map) carmac did a tactical analyse 2GD disagreed and instantly threw some trash shit in and changed the topic, I think that toogood is just too good to really mock people down for their mistakes, which was what carmac was really doing quite a lot, but imo he did it for reason.

Its just like that 2GD wants to run a show always the positive way, like joe does too, but carmac seems to be more like neutral and says what he wants, he doesnt care if its arrogant or unconventional.

<< Comment #107 @ 15:53 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #97

They don't fit because it's ex-fnatic & ex-sk ;) >>>|<<<

<< Comment #163 @ 16:36 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #107

or because 2GD kinda like to stay in the centre of attention
the way he interrupted carmac when carmac was saying something about av3k was fuckin ridiculous, pissed me off pretty hard

<< Comment #121 @ 17:36 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #97

This 'partnership' did not work so perfectly because it was the first time we are together and could not find a good balance which would work perfectly.

Maybe the second, third time around it would be better, but it's not going to happen anyway. I was there only because Joe was ill. I am sure he'll be back in his rightful place for the next show.

<< Comment #139 @ 05:28 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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exp! - Reply to #121

OH NOES! :(

<< Comment #153 @ 15:03 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Furore - Reply to #97

I thought the chemistry was fine. Hearing different opinions makes it more interesting as a spectator, e.g. 2GD saying GUard should have been more aggressive on T7, Carmac saying he needed to armour up more. 2GD always antagonises everyone, it's not meant to be taken seriously. Sometimes it comes out a bit off, but it's more a missed rail than anything else.
I would be happy to hear Carmac again as a shoutcaster. Joe and 2GD work well together, but it's good to have counterpoint analysis.

<< Comment #98 @ 15:06 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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smari

picmip 0 in the first game looked much better than picmip 6 later on

<< Comment #102 @ 15:21 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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h0rald

picmip 6 in the second game looked much better than picmip 0 in the first

<< Comment #104 @ 15:35 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #102

picmip 16 would probably be better

<< Comment #101 @ 15:18 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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_agu

good luck foxz0rs!!

<< Comment #105 @ 15:39 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p5B356AA4.dip.t-dialin.net)

about the dm6 start commentatory: you can have the SAME luck actually the other way round: if you get the fast rl spawn your enemy the ya spawn, you can jump down to mh, finish him and take ra.

anyways, in official matches you should play smart and dont mess up ur start by doing that. that shaft attack instantly after mh is nothing uncommon.

<< Comment #109 @ 16:11 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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[mash]

i want demozzz.

<< Comment #112 @ 16:24 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #109

/R/equesting demoz!

<< Comment #111 @ 16:16 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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OmeN_

r_lodbias -2 to get the maximum level of detail. Try it, guys. Tankjr looks even chubby.

<< Comment #115 @ 16:41 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #111

screens?

<< Comment #116 @ 16:44 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p5B357B71.dip.t-dialin.net)

carmac is like günther netzer xD

<< Comment #118 @ 17:16 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #116

:DDDDDDD

<< Comment #114 @ 16:40 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Lethe

[21:34] <Makie> hey mate think i was the closest guess for first frag i checked other comments: 30/07/09 18:57 #85
[21:34] <Makie> Makie:
[21:34] <Makie> Premium: 1
[21:34] <Makie> Guard kills k1llsen with rail near RA around 1:10
[21:35] <Makie> time and place was quite right
[21:35] <Makie> cheers

he may be trollz0r, but the guy won a goliathus.

<< Comment #117 @ 17:12 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #114

Wasn't it with RL? :(

<< Comment #119 @ 17:22 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Makie - Reply to #117

nah it was with plasma gun around 1:30 ;)

<< Comment #120 @ 17:25 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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ddk

carmacs spoken english has improved drastically! if you see this carmac, gj !

<< Comment #122 @ 17:37 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #120

I think I peaked in 2002 when I was living in the UK for the summer, but I'll take a compliment!

<< Comment #127 @ 18:22 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #122

no way, your peak was fatal1ty eswc 2003 interview.

the "lose the title" part.

:D

<< Comment #132 @ 03:08 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #127

but fatal1ty has by far the worst pronounciation (hello texas cowboy) of all these pro-players. often not that easy to understand.

<< Comment #145 @ 08:15 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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rockz ' - Reply to #127

where is it?

<< Comment #148 @ 10:11 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #145

from here

somewhere

<< Comment #128 @ 21:15 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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judge717

tons of delays and problems and still quite enjoyable. good job guys.

sick games too

<< Comment #129 @ 22:30 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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sk!a

Another great show and the problems didn't take away from it at all. I did miss the joe / 2gd combo, but carmac was a great replacement. It was a shame that cypher never showed :< But anyway, congrats killsen and I can't wait for the finals.

GO FOX!

<< Comment #130 @ 23:29 CDT, 30 July 2009 >>

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vorpal

the casters went a little overboard with explaining everything that is happening, but at least it wasn't dj wheats extremely nasally nerd voice making embarrassingly bad jokes

it also wasnt very awesome when i first tuned in and the only thing going on was the two casters talking for 15+ minutes

but at least tournaments are happening (regardless of how bad the game is)!

<< Comment #131 @ 01:17 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Dronar

Is it just me who don't get how Cypher doesn't show up to a tournament sponsored by Razer?
Doesn't he have Razer in his clantag?

Professionalism is the shit!

<< Comment #133 @ 03:14 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #131

he trys to immitate his idol cooller as much as possible.

rule #1 - overtrashtalk your opponents
rule #2 - tell everyone, that you didnt practise at all
rule #3 - delay tournaments, even if it's a lan-final
rule #4 - you are NEVER in shape
rule #5 - the universe rotates around you!

<< Comment #135 @ 03:47 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Nirve - Reply to #133

haha :o

<< Comment #136 @ 04:31 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #135

haha :/ the universe should rotate around the razer tournament.

<< Comment #137 @ 04:57 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #133

\:D/

<< Comment #155 @ 16:17 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #133

Sadly, this is quite accurate.

<< Comment #138 @ 05:08 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #131

why would he expose his game so close to quakecon?

<< Comment #141 @ 06:51 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #138

to win 600€ ?

<< Comment #140 @ 05:57 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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naymlis

ok so why do these vods almost never work? I randomly/luckily got one working after trying a few times and never since....

<< Comment #142 @ 07:13 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Furore - Reply to #140

I find they work better in IE than FFox for some obscure reason

<< Comment #147 @ 08:47 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #142

thanks, it does work more often

<< Comment #143 @ 07:45 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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carmac's shoutcast was more objective than's 2gd's

<< Comment #146 @ 08:17 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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rockz ' - Reply to #143

a balance between personal and objectiive things is great

<< Comment #149 @ 11:51 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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bsk

Picmip 0 is definitely not an improvement, in my opinion. Sure, it may look "prettier" but it's also more difficult to see the core of what's going on - which is far more important than eye candy.

<< Comment #150 @ 13:48 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #149

you really think that? i see the core of what's going on regardless of picmip setting since it's only a preference

<< Comment #152 @ 14:25 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #150

Of course, it's just my opinion. And all the things I suggest are pretty minor compared to the overall awesomeness of the broadcast.

<< Comment #159 @ 07:32 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #149

its not 0 for the players, its 0 for the spectators. players have what they like, eye candy off, and spectators should have the best possible picture quality. simple as that. what is exactly stopping you from seeing anything with a good picmip?

<< Comment #160 @ 07:38 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #159

the image quality on the stream gets a _lot_ worse with lower picmip, it was already a pain to look at with premium and my brother said he couldn't see shit on the free stream :F

<< Comment #161 @ 07:40 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #160

i watched the Alternative host, dunno how the original one works, but the quality was pretty good.

<< Comment #162 @ 12:52 CDT, 1 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #159

I was talking about the spectator picmip - 0 makes it harder to follow.

<< Comment #154 @ 15:12 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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bsk

And to comment on Carmac's performance - I thought his analyses were actually better than Jay's this time round. This was probably because Jay was distracted having to do the play-by-play.

I keep wondering if there's any point to play-by-play commentary at all. I prefer how most poker tournaments are broadcast: they do a brief intro at the start of the show for newcomers, but then expect their audience to have a certain basic knowledge. In sum, commentary always seems better when the audience isn't patronised. I'd prefer two experts disagreeing about what player x should have done to one of them asking leading questions or just stating the obvious.

<< Comment #156 @ 17:05 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #154

nah, I'd say that, just like in every other sports commentary, a simple stating what's going on in the game is crucial to the atmosphere. Which of course doesn't mean that I don't appreciate more in-depth commentary but I think that you should always have both.

<< Comment #157 @ 20:43 CDT, 31 July 2009 >>

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baron Railgun :

the second way of playing defensive on dm6 is to go boldly, where no man has gone before

<< Comment #165 @ 11:37 CDT, 2 August 2009 >>

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xou

Here be winners!

Competition 1:

dozo (small Goliathus)
Competition 2:

CAREEM (medium Goliathus)
Competition 3:

Disturbed (Salmosa)

<< Comment #167 @ 17:44 CDT, 2 August 2009 >>

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Disturbed - Reply to #165

;D

i rly needed a mouse xD

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