ESR - QuakeCon'09 QL Tournaments Ended

<< Comment #101 @ 12:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #10

Man... if walter really attends and wins this, it'll be stuff of legends

yeah and then he'll ride into the sunset on his horse...

pull yourself together

<< Comment #106 @ 12:21 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPh_WvSZonw

Edited by n1ghty at 12:23 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #109 @ 12:27 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #106

whenever i see anything western related, i just MUST see the epic once more. for the 512th time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNh9f2Wwm0&feature=related

<< Comment #197 @ 17:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #109

the true history of quakecon

<< Comment #145 @ 15:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Dronar - Reply to #10

[img1]

Edited by Dronar at 15:44 CDT, 13 August 2009

15%

<< Comment #198 @ 17:21 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #145

please edit: walter sextar stranger

<< Comment #13 @ 23:51 CDT, 12 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil

WOW...the CTF talent pool is DEEP! Finally CTF should steal the action spotlight from the hyped duels...looking forward to some amazing multi-pov demos.

<< Comment #22 @ 01:41 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #13

but the maps...

<< Comment #45 @ 05:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #13

didn't know quake live had mvd

<< Comment #66 @ 08:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #45

understood...my statement was misleading; meant to say I hope they've got plenty of different player pov's from a single CTF match.

<< Comment #14 @ 00:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

Pardon my ignorance, but why aren't people like noctis and zero4 attending?

<< Comment #17 @ 00:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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erok - Reply to #14

I don't think z4 has touched the game since last year's qcon, and noctis didn't want to go.

<< Comment #32 @ 03:47 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #17

well z4 played some games in the last weeks, but j4f as it seems. he was in a pretty bad shape though. i'd be happy if he'd give it another try, but not if he's not in top-shape. just an "on-fire"-z4 for your pleasure is really what enjoys me the most \<3/

<< Comment #95 @ 11:22 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #32

you said z4.

<< Comment #99 @ 12:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #95

you also said z4 \:D/

<< Comment #100 @ 12:08 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #99

you cheap plus whore you did it again

<< Comment #102 @ 12:16 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #100

it just feels so well ... ;/

<< Comment #26 @ 03:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #14

noctis didnt want to go because he didnt like the tournament format even though fatal1ty offered him a free trip to qcon (go figure)

<< Comment #356 @ 02:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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link - Reply to #26

on irc he said he was too busy with work

<< Comment #15 @ 00:08 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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meat man

How could you forget Mojo? The one and only reason to follow the Open tournament.

<< Comment #52 @ 07:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #15

Sorry, you have an ESR account with at least one "Plus", you have an "established" name in the "community" and must therefore compete in the masters tournament. Thank you.

<< Comment #55 @ 07:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #15

you played pk world tour. That's as pro as it gets. Women want to have you, men want to be you.

GO MOJO!!!

<< Comment #63 @ 08:11 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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meat man - Reply to #55

More like... women want to be you, men want to have you.

I think.

<< Comment #18 @ 00:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 15:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #19 @ 00:27 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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efassd

Will VOD's and/or demos be available almost immediately? Please. :)

<< Comment #20 @ 00:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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tbone

walter?

<< Comment #24 @ 01:53 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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phz

Hope walter shows. Shame he never made a lan that had hub in the map pool.

<< Comment #25 @ 02:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ZzyZx

walter won't show. carnage in master's tourney? lol

<< Comment #336 @ 01:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #25

walter 2 - 0

chance

carnage 2 - 0

HELL
You were saying...

<< Comment #343 @ 02:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #336

:D

<< Comment #27 @ 03:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Larvi

Change the news headline to "Walter attending Qcon?"

<< Comment #29 @ 03:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #27

Change the news headline to "Walter attending Qcon?"

<< Comment #68 @ 08:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #29

Change the news headline to "Walter attending Qcon?"

<< Comment #78 @ 09:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #68

Change the news headline to "Walter attending Qcon?"

<< Comment #344 @ 02:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #78

Change the news headline to "Walter winning Qcon?"

<< Comment #71 @ 09:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #68

why do so many people care about walter? dont understand

<< Comment #75 @ 09:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #71

it's the drama

<< Comment #122 @ 13:44 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #71

it's always sensational when geek under heavy drugs is leaving his cave

<< Comment #28 @ 03:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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blaze

I actually look forward to follow this. QL isn't such a bad game to watch :)
and go fox etc etc.

<< Comment #30 @ 03:27 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #28

that etc chap is always a no show.

<< Comment #31 @ 03:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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blaze - Reply to #30

haha. here comes the true fanboyism.

GO WALTER! \\o \o/ o//

<< Comment #35 @ 04:11 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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vaeldjir

no noctis :'(

<< Comment #34 @ 04:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Martel

cypher will win this all day long....

...but only cause noctis isn't there!

<< Comment #40 @ 05:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #34

haven't seen much action from him in QL, I really don't know how his form is.

<< Comment #46 @ 05:41 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Martel - Reply to #40

alias.com

<< Comment #51 @ 07:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #46

why not participating in any tournament then? (except that ridiculous no-show on ESL)

<< Comment #62 @ 08:00 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #51

he will be way scarier this way

<< Comment #73 @ 09:27 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Martel - Reply to #51

he don't need to play in tourneys to prac, we got no idea who he has been praccing, or how much

when you aint seen someone playin for ages, then Qcon starts, and hes slappin you all over the map it sort of affects your confidence, and the rest of players think "oh....cr4p" - psychology

or

he could just be rubbish....but i highly, highly doubt it when 14k is up for grabs and his history in tournaments suggests he is there to lay the smack down =)

<< Comment #76 @ 09:35 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #73

I sure hope so =)

<< Comment #199 @ 17:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #73

praccing with av3k

<< Comment #428 @ 05:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #73

"we got no idea who he has been praccing, or how much"
pretty enough to win. http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/Ahktfuy

<< Comment #61 @ 07:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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valvalis - Reply to #40

's gonna be a miracle if he makes it to top 3

Edited by Valvalis at 07:49 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #80 @ 10:00 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #34

You are making notics out to be best player in the world without comparison. Why is that? It's not like he has dominated anything, and he has even lost games since his ESL win...

<< Comment #82 @ 10:08 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Martel - Reply to #80

its just an opinion, take it easy, kok

<< Comment #200 @ 17:25 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #82

no it's not
traitor

<< Comment #273 @ 19:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #82

Was taking it pretty easy. You didnt see me go "omg roflmao u n00b shit dont have a clue u suck!!!1", or something like that did you?

<< Comment #36 @ 04:21 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Akuma

hm, games start at 22:00bst :/

<< Comment #38 @ 04:25 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #36

ye...i think dont gonna watch first night :/

<< Comment #53 @ 07:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #36

06:00 JST, 14 August 2009: WB Round 1 (64 players)
08:00 JST, 16 August 2009: to 11:00 JST: Final (2 players)

If you think you're unlucky. Get up 8am on sunday? Just no. :c

<< Comment #39 @ 04:44 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi

cant wait to see "FULOBSTER" on gtv \o/\o/ ...
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oh wait ...

<< Comment #41 @ 05:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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hazrd

Ill enjoy watching this on the GTV an..... uh i forgot, stupid QL devs!

<< Comment #42 @ 05:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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BalkanFM

anyone know where freebeer whos organising the tf tourney is from?

<< Comment #43 @ 05:32 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius

it's so great to see both avek & cypher there again. Reminds me of the '06 edition (q4) where they both placed top5 in one of their 1st international tournaments <3

<< Comment #48 @ 06:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

Checking: http://www.quadv.com/ & http://quakecon.quake-live.tv/ ...

Hope there we have a GOOD Video Stream like we had @ ESL-TV...

<< Comment #49 @ 06:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p5B3FF415.dip.t-dialin.net)

viju <3

<< Comment #54 @ 07:13 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius

reminds me: did anyone see that movie yesterday, 'Gaylords say no'?

<< Comment #56 @ 07:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Vium

rapha will win easily.
he'll use the bible as a mousepad.

10%

<< Comment #58 @ 07:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #56

and is 5 preaches ahead.

<< Comment #59 @ 07:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Vium - Reply to #58

amen

<< Comment #94 @ 11:13 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #58

"...and you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

<< Comment #201 @ 17:27 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #94

this calls for divine intervention

<< Comment #81 @ 10:02 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #56

Haha thats funny :P

<< Comment #60 @ 07:47 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

the hell...

walter??

<< Comment #64 @ 08:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer

Oh Walter, you and your wacky shenanigans.

Edited by madbringer at 08:14 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #65 @ 08:22 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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amOKchen

I don't see anyone named walter signed up under registration.

http://registration.quakecon.org/attendeelist.php

;<

<< Comment #84 @ 10:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (c-773071d5.026-216-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) - Reply to #65

Name Handle/Nick Clan Location BYOC

Walter Outlaw Outlaw dfm Virginia, United States No

<< Comment #67 @ 08:41 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #65

man oh man ...

http://registration.quakecon.org/attendeelist.php?searchfor=outlaw&searchtype=1&page=1

<< Comment #72 @ 09:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #65

technology, thou art a tricky bitch

<< Comment #77 @ 09:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #65

pff why do you call him walter if his nick is outlaw :p

<< Comment #86 @ 10:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #77

it should be Walter "walter" Outlaw

<< Comment #69 @ 09:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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sch.

go go av3k & tox1c !

<< Comment #74 @ 09:30 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Martel

Lakerman ftw

<< Comment #89 @ 10:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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tbone - Reply to #74

?

<< Comment #79 @ 09:58 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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butcher_kgp

wow!! the prizemoney is increased..how come no one talks about that
14k for first place in duel....thts loads of money.

<< Comment #83 @ 10:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #79

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAND

<< Comment #85 @ 10:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #83

THAT CANT BE RIGHT

<< Comment #87 @ 10:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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MaNi_DaDuDe

I was supposed to be here ! :(((

<< Comment #107 @ 12:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #87

cheer up. you are here! :D

<< Comment #88 @ 10:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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MaNi_DaDuDe

We need video coverage of the CTF Tournament.

Breathtaking teams, will be a nice show. :]

<< Comment #92 @ 10:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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tNy

GOGOGOGO FAZZ, Spart1e and fox

Hope u all three do well.. :D

<< Comment #120 @ 13:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #92

\o/ =)

<< Comment #91 @ 10:38 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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QuakeLiveTV

Thanks for the post! QuakeLive.TV is EXCITED to be to QuakeCon. Check out our QuakeCon page: http://quakecon.quake-live.tv/

<< Comment #93 @ 11:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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judge717

A CTF team of 4 gets less for 1st place per person than 3rd place in the masters tourney which I believe is correct and good.

<< Comment #104 @ 12:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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azmo - Reply to #93

Nah, team games is the way to go if they ever want the game to be popular again.

Quake without TDM is a big pile of fail.

<< Comment #96 @ 11:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

final is rapha vs av3k, if the drama queen actually appears the meteor will hit the united states.

<< Comment #136 @ 15:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #96

i think about final same :)

<< Comment #97 @ 11:42 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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voodoochopstiks

Will be at festival the whole time, won't get to see a single game :(

Go Fox!

<< Comment #98 @ 12:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (pool-173-71-48-91.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)

thanks for not listing us under the CTF section - Loaded

<< Comment #103 @ 12:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #98

Hello!
Who are you?!

<< Comment #105 @ 12:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #103

he's raged

<< Comment #111 @ 12:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #105

He's loaded

<< Comment #118 @ 13:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #111

he's definitely full of something

<< Comment #114 @ 12:53 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #103

Loaded: carnage, relic, walter, blt

http://www.fnatic.com/news/3441/l for record breaking coverage

<< Comment #108 @ 12:26 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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duumed

gl swedes

<< Comment #110 @ 12:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (217.96.99.62)

gl av3k and tox1c!

/thrawn

<< Comment #112 @ 12:49 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard

so tempted to watch this tonight and call in sick in the morning

fs though with the friday night final :(

couldnt it have been on the sunday

<< Comment #121 @ 13:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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UwU - Reply to #112

the final IS in fact on sunday!?

<< Comment #125 @ 14:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #121

oh yea sunday morning, hmm not much better

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UwU - Reply to #125

there is no pleasing you huh :p

<< Comment #113 @ 12:51 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard

Johan Quick toxjq N/A Sweden No
Karl Johansson fooki SK Gaming Sweden

:0

<< Comment #115 @ 12:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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scowl

Duel WB Final and CTF Semi Finals both on Saturday at 5 p.m.
This sucks. :<

Duel grandfinal and CTF final also at the same time. \o/

Edited by scowl at 12:58 CDT, 13 August 2009

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xou - Reply to #115

Yeah, the 3 finals are played on stage with no exact schedule.

<< Comment #116 @ 13:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koOma

great overview xou, well done. [+]

<< Comment #119 @ 13:25 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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PsY^

Make me proud!

<< Comment #123 @ 14:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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[mash]

k1llsen!

also: eu ctf-teams!

Edited by [mash] at 14:15 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #124 @ 14:17 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

GO FOX!!

<< Comment #126 @ 14:40 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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cdogg

Is there a bracket yet up anywhere?

<< Comment #127 @ 14:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #126

On the tournaments page: http://tournaments.quakecon.org

<< Comment #132 @ 15:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #127

ah yes. Seems like TBD has got this.

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madbringer - Reply to #132

He played himself every step of the bracket up until the very finals. In a shocking twist of events, TBD pried the victory from TBD after seven OT's on ztn, which made the GTV crowd spray lots of cum everywhere.

Edited by madbringer at 15:29 CDT, 13 August 2009

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noctis - Reply to #135

obvious joke is obvious

i mean srsly.... GTV?!

10%

<< Comment #139 @ 15:32 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #135

=(

<< Comment #237 @ 18:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #126

Jesus those brackets are STUFFED with good players!

<< Comment #128 @ 14:45 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

the stream will be up for the first games @ 2300CET?

<< Comment #129 @ 14:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koOma - Reply to #128

good question

<< Comment #131 @ 15:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (66.21.110.142)

Darkhorse prediction:

1) Spart1e
2) Stermy
3) Fox
4) K1llsen
5) Cypher
6) Rapha
7) Av3k

<< Comment #133 @ 15:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #131

never do bets:)

Edited by RMS at 15:25 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #140 @ 15:32 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #133

if he puts it upside down he almost got it

<< Comment #143 @ 15:38 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #140

hope so

<< Comment #134 @ 15:26 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xc-hate

no gtv no fun
gogo av3k

<< Comment #137 @ 15:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

was about to tell you the link to the Intel QUAKE LIVE Masters Championship is wrong, it was linked to the ctf tourney... I see you just fixed it :P

<< Comment #141 @ 15:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #137

that's the most useless comment on the topic =(

Edited by Lethe at 15:51 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #147 @ 15:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche - Reply to #141

Good thing you pointed it out.
I was searching like a mad man here.

<< Comment #148 @ 15:49 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #147

how could you miss it?

<< Comment #142 @ 15:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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lizahd

i didnt figure out wether they broadcast the first games or not,,,,,

so?

<< Comment #146 @ 15:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (201008250209.user.veloxzone.com.br)

cypher or stermy.. for sure.

<< Comment #144 @ 15:42 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

so this starts in 20 minutes and not even the brackets are up?
classic quakecon

at 2300 we'll get a "30 min delay" announcement.

<< Comment #153 @ 15:57 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #144

Only 30?

<< Comment #180 @ 16:45 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #153

45 for now

<< Comment #149 @ 15:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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MarzenGold

GO WALTER \:D/

<< Comment #150 @ 15:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Åke Vader

Shub-Niggurath is not pleased with this tournament.

<< Comment #334 @ 01:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #150

I wouldn't be too pleased either if I got an axe wielding dude spawned up my ass. =(

<< Comment #151 @ 15:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou

[22:54:48] <quadV|Iain> dunno what's going on with the stream
[22:54:53] <quadV|Iain> last i heard there were some technical issues
[22:55:02] <quadV|Iain> it'll be up as soon as it can get sorted

You know the drill.

<< Comment #154 @ 15:58 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #151

Seriously who didnt expect this?

<< Comment #155 @ 16:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #151

http://www.djwheat.tv/live
http://www.quadv.com/quakeconlive

They should be okay now.

<< Comment #161 @ 16:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #155

Do they have the same content?
Is it possible to watch quadv without logging in?

<< Comment #166 @ 16:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #161

It should be the same thing, ye

<< Comment #157 @ 16:08 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #151

There seems to be something on, but it still sucks that there's not so much as a hint on the quadv homepage regarding quakecon. You have to browse through the schedule to even find the stream :/ (using you as a proxy here to vent my outrage :))

That being said, the stream is on with random people moving around somewhere

<< Comment #152 @ 15:57 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wocK_

no keynote live stream?

Fuck sake

<< Comment #158 @ 16:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #152

Despite the fact that everywhere seems to say djwheat has audio only, I'm seeing video at http://www.djwheat.tv/ atm - but no audio. It looks like they're still setting stuff up, so I guess they're just behind schedule.

Or maybe that is a cruel joke, and there is a stream of the BYOC area, while any stream claiming to be for the conference is down ;)

Edit: got it - seems I was right - have a working stream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream

Edited by AnthonyJ at 16:12 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #205 @ 17:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #158

there's a strange guy with some glasses saying some strange things

<< Comment #159 @ 16:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #152

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream

Both are horrible

<< Comment #163 @ 16:26 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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UwU - Reply to #159

horrible stream? those were some nice new rage screenshots!!

<< Comment #164 @ 16:26 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rep - Reply to #159

2nd is fine, 1st is horrible :P

<< Comment #156 @ 16:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer

Stream is up :^]

Watching morbidly obese mafiosi looking guy makes me wanna fap.

<< Comment #160 @ 16:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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tath

I so much miss GTV :(

<< Comment #172 @ 16:35 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #160

tell me.. fkin buffering every few sec..shitty stream

<< Comment #162 @ 16:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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hkrep

They just announced Linux & Mac support next Tuesday

<< Comment #165 @ 16:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT

I have no idea how but you can embed the stream on ESR if you want, I'll give you the code just drop me a mail.

As for the schedule there is none as of yet, we're still sorting out some technical issues but as you can see the stream is slowly but surely getting there.

There are two streams operating one 800kbs and one 400kbs - I would expect streaming to start within 2 hours but that is not a promise! We are close!

<< Comment #168 @ 16:30 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #165

Would be nice to include the 2 stream URLs.

Thanks for the heads-up

<< Comment #167 @ 16:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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chuky

how do i get 120 fps in the live stream ?

<< Comment #169 @ 16:30 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

Somebody tell the shoutcaster how to configure qlive

<< Comment #170 @ 16:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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dardoz

this sucks. streams are constantly buffering every 2 seconds

<< Comment #171 @ 16:32 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wata

Rage looks like another console game, with pretty texturing
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/quakecon-trailer-rage/54146
joypad dull stuff incoming, not looking forward too attentively

<< Comment #173 @ 16:39 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust363.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

Is anyone playing yet? Or are we running a bit late? Just asking 'cause it's 22:32 bst.

<< Comment #174 @ 16:39 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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[mash]

is it me or is the quality on djwheat.tv and quadv unbareable?

<< Comment #175 @ 16:40 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard

Also the sound is v. distorted and hard on the ears

<< Comment #177 @ 16:42 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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tath - Reply to #175

yeah, it hurt my ears ;X

<< Comment #176 @ 16:40 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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vkl

awesome first round matchup....oh wait...40 minutes behind, typical

<< Comment #178 @ 16:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT

We're not even close to live right now so err quit bitching? :) Still troubleshooting errors

<< Comment #183 @ 16:49 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust363.sotn.cable.ntl.com) - Reply to #178

Ha no pressure bro :D

I have faith!

<< Comment #184 @ 16:49 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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dardoz - Reply to #178

could u give us an estimate tosspot? Are we looking at an hour... 2? 3? today at all?

<< Comment #187 @ 16:55 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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dardoz - Reply to #178

actually, can you fill us in on the monitor situation tosspot? are they decent this year or crap again?

<< Comment #204 @ 17:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #178

Shouldn't you've configured and tested everything beforehand?
What is happening now is the worst organization imaginable.

<< Comment #207 @ 17:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #204

their way of sticking with the good old bad habits

<< Comment #777 @ 16:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #178

on the QuadV/djWHEAT.tv page, could you set the IRC windows so everything that's not users talking is filtered out (join messages, time out messages, etc), so it gets easier to read ? (alternative : use a clearer font/color for us)
atm it's a pain to follow

Edited by wata at 16:54 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #179 @ 16:44 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche

Banshees wailing, hurting my ears.

Quakecon so far respects tradition.

Late and bad stream.
Status nominal.

<< Comment #209 @ 17:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #179

yeah, respecting the tradition rulz

<< Comment #181 @ 16:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream is a really good stream

<< Comment #185 @ 16:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #181

thanks

<< Comment #182 @ 16:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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frs

should've gotten the ESL guys to run this shit :E

<< Comment #186 @ 16:53 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

teh aspect ratio on the stream is wrong !

<< Comment #188 @ 17:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

http://www.quadv.com/quakeconlive

FFS walter IS there.

<< Comment #190 @ 17:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #188

And then there was drama. \:D/

<< Comment #191 @ 17:11 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #190

what the fuck is this

Edit: Its Rapha aliasing !!!!11

Edited by Lethe at 17:11 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #193 @ 17:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #188

that's the most useless comment on the topic =(

<< Comment #194 @ 17:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #193

how come?

<< Comment #196 @ 17:19 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #194

hi !

<< Comment #202 @ 17:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #196

wait for a better chance ffs...

<< Comment #189 @ 17:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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vkl

WALTER....it`s ALIVEEEEE

<< Comment #195 @ 17:19 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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madbringer

I bet Nomadic is shitting bricks right about now. :D

<< Comment #203 @ 17:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wata

so, which monitors do they play on ? 120Hz lcd or the considering kind ones ?

<< Comment #206 @ 17:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rep - Reply to #203

shitty monitors ™

<< Comment #214 @ 18:02 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #206

hence why noctis didn't go there

<< Comment #208 @ 17:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #203

shitty monitors ©

<< Comment #213 @ 18:01 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rep - Reply to #208

imma sue yoo!

<< Comment #210 @ 17:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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kajebilo

hope autorecorddemo is ON !!

<< Comment #211 @ 17:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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wata

stream quality is good enough, unless it goes constant buffering it's cool

<< Comment #212 @ 17:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

wow stream sounds like someone forgot the mic like 1mm from the speaker

Edited by [TA]STiNGS at 18:00 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #215 @ 18:03 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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btl

So fucking unprofessional it's ridiculous

<< Comment #219 @ 18:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust363.sotn.cable.ntl.com) - Reply to #215

Internet bad ass coming through!

<< Comment #239 @ 18:54 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #219

I bet you were the one who promised us the worlds largest CDN for the QuadV stream

<< Comment #216 @ 18:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

some nice chat in there:

whatever: quakecon=carmack's life story
1:52 Sebter: BREAKING NEWS: JOHN CARMACK TAKES A DRINK OF WATER
1:52 btk88: lol
1:52 whasop: thirsty ehh
1:52 Viatrophy: So, we've learnt that he does need water. We're making progress.
1:53 sippa: Oh, I didn't even know it was a video, I thought it was a picture of him
1:53 ELV1S: holy <censored> hes drinking water! HEs not an ALIEN!
1:53 peterthegreat: hes not an android *gasp*
1:53 Poxik6071: He just said console shooters are dumbed down, take that Xbox Live fanboys
1:54 z0mtek: He reminds me of Harald Lesch from Alpha Centauri
1:54 TheReaperCooL: The biggest thing in this day will be when Carmack stops talking
2:01 xXGTagger14Xx: let see how much i can censore my self <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> <censored> ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2:02 btk88: fox news lol
2:02 peterthegreat: ps3 droids go home
uakeCon Carmack talks are a once in a lifetime experience. Mostly because your liftetime will probably end before the talk does." Lol que
2:07 Poxik6071: time for questions: 2 hours, enjoy

<< Comment #217 @ 18:11 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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green

haw haw, walter's playing chance in the first round
http://tournaments.quakecon.org/tournament/sc...namentid=5

<< Comment #218 @ 18:14 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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[TA]STiNGS - Reply to #217

they should totally stream this match

<< Comment #220 @ 18:15 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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green - Reply to #218

yer, looks like theyre gearing up for fox v clamp tho. zzZz

<< Comment #260 @ 19:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #218

They did then it conked out about 2 mins in :(

.

<< Comment #222 @ 18:19 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #217

could be ... epic?

<< Comment #221 @ 18:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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judge717

cypher > klown
madix > 1057
killsen > vo0
chance > walter
stermy > fiend
toxic > garpy
fazz > sparks
av3k > pyro
fox > clampok
linkin > kgb
dkt > allmental
spartie > plague
griffin > blt
dahang > whaz
hell > carnage
rapha > relic

!!

<< Comment #223 @ 18:24 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

PLZ HAAVE VODS

<< Comment #224 @ 18:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

Where's the LIVE Stream!? Quakelive.tv is not streaming anything

<< Comment #225 @ 18:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo

http://www.quadv.com/quakeconlive is showing fox vs clamp, quality seems alright

<< Comment #226 @ 18:35 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #225

Nice! I was going crazy because www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream just streams the carmack conference, its ok, but pretty bored...

<< Comment #228 @ 18:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #225

turn up ingame sound and/or down echoing wheat+slasher with bg noise :(

<< Comment #230 @ 18:38 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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d00med - Reply to #225

I can't get video from this stream, only audio.

any ideas anyone

<< Comment #234 @ 18:43 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo - Reply to #225

chance vs walter up next :)

<< Comment #236 @ 18:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #234

lmao whatever happens this is going to be epic

<< Comment #227 @ 18:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi

So many great matches in the same time and i have to watch clampok ...

THANK YOU ID FOR YOUR GTV SUPPORT!

Edited by Xsi at 18:37 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #229 @ 18:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #227

and no scorebots :<

<< Comment #231 @ 18:39 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Bono

nice stream!

<< Comment #232 @ 18:40 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

Stream quality is really well, but matchpicking is stupid :))

What the HELL! Hell lost vs carnage?!

<< Comment #505 @ 08:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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zashael - Reply to #232

Ba Dum tss! xDD

<< Comment #233 @ 18:42 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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d00med

is there an ip address for stream so I can open in VLC? can't see quadv stream

no GTV sucks :/

<< Comment #235 @ 18:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Six16

fox vs clamp was lul, i pretty much expect the same results when eu vs usa!

IdonotcheatWalter vs Chance next, sweet :-)

<< Comment #242 @ 18:55 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #235

lmao :( the stream didnt withstand the epicness of this match

<< Comment #255 @ 19:04 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #242

yep :(

<< Comment #238 @ 18:53 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

Stream down?

<< Comment #240 @ 18:54 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Rondrian - Reply to #238

looks like it .. :(

<< Comment #241 @ 18:54 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard

ueaaeuuao stream!???!?!?

<< Comment #244 @ 18:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #241

yeeeeee its nice, #quadV picket 1000 users @ IRC with the classical "im spraying cum everywhere" and that kind of spam

<< Comment #243 @ 18:55 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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kajebilo

SO WHAT ABOUT GTV??

<< Comment #265 @ 19:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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sansai - Reply to #243

Even with GTV, the QCON coverage is always shit. There's always technical problems, lack of bandwidth, and so on. :\

<< Comment #276 @ 19:19 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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lizahd

My personal point of view so far concerning Coverage:

A fucking disappointment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cruel delay, hardly informations (when games start, brackets, seeds), you get ZERO information about other games that not run on stream, no scorebots, not even a verbal statement by wheat or anything.

personally i wanted to follow k1llsen vs. voo, but well i just got the scores my checking the quakecon brackets afterwards myself....

pls go home quakcon, u suck.

25%

<< Comment #298 @ 19:32 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ArchaiK - Reply to #276

Yes this.

It's sad that a huge tournament like this is MILES behind a small online cup like ESLs QL Invitational.

<< Comment #317 @ 19:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #298

alot easier to do a online cup, you have everything already setup on your own internet. problem here seems to be the venue which is out of the streams control.

<< Comment #418 @ 05:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #317

problem here is people running events that shouldn't be

(assuming)

I always wonder if such people employ professional event planners, consultants and managers

in 10 years, there has been zero progression. with the exception of maybe ESWC, but in the grand scheme of things, that's not progression either.

it's the same old shit, year in, year out.

professional!

<< Comment #423 @ 05:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Something - Reply to #418

I wish that wasn't true, but it is :(

Makes me miss ESWC even more, wish I was a millionaire so I could revive it :(

<< Comment #1095 @ 11:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #276

TRUE, SOMEONE HOST A FUCKING TOURNAMENT IN UK OR SOMETHING AND GET IT MAJORED! TDM/CTF/1V1/2V2 !!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #245 @ 18:56 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

ye, stream down

<< Comment #246 @ 18:57 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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sk!a

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #247 @ 18:57 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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InDepther

demos where?

<< Comment #248 @ 18:58 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi

lets start a flamewar \o/

no gtv sux

<< Comment #249 @ 18:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ra1n`

AWESOME COVERAGE SO FAR!!!!!!!!!!
not

<< Comment #250 @ 18:59 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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XeroxHands

holy wow of all the matches the stream could possibly fuck up on

<< Comment #251 @ 19:00 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ sniden

failing

<< Comment #253 @ 19:01 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche

Carnage > Hell ( 2 - 0 )

That one is gonna raise questions.

<< Comment #261 @ 19:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #253

Carnage has been getting better and better recently and keeps scores close on most maps...except Decay.

<< Comment #263 @ 19:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche - Reply to #261

I still think this is the first big upset so far.

Euros are probably gonna find a reason :)

( Edit :: In before "he's a fucking welsh" )

Edited by Freelance_ at 19:09 CDT, 13 August 2009

<< Comment #279 @ 19:21 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #263

Don't think Euros care much about it. Even though I am not really into QL I think HELL wasn't considered as one of European favourites by anyone...

<< Comment #293 @ 19:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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ArchaiK - Reply to #263

Why would we care at all?

<< Comment #299 @ 19:33 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche - Reply to #293

See #235 as well as the other million posts on ESR where Euros openly state being superior in 1v1.

<< Comment #369 @ 03:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mammon - Reply to #299

UK is not Euro, they were not even Earth last time I checked

<< Comment #414 @ 05:07 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #299

anyone with half a brain knows hell is good on one map, and only when hitting 3 rails in a row

a by good, we mean a fair bit above average so he can hold his own vs the top, the elite will just roll him

still probably the best in the UK though. he's fucking awesome at riding on past achievements which aint all that as well. shame he isn't as good as the top players, he'd make a fucking awesome fatality. that's for sure.

<< Comment #252 @ 19:01 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun

Incompetence is a killer.

<< Comment #254 @ 19:04 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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v1ze

is the quadv stream the same?

i wouldn't know because their registration emails r broken.....however i can get the change password emails....

HELPFUL

<< Comment #256 @ 19:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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XeroxHands - Reply to #254

Yeah quadv is down as well, seems the stream is either not sending or the sites are simply not recieving (or both).

reaaaaaly wish we could get a score update on the match

<< Comment #258 @ 19:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #254

both died

<< Comment #262 @ 19:07 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #254

the stream is down if that's what you're wondering about

<< Comment #257 @ 19:05 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Six16

quakelive_tv Ok we should have bandwidth in about 1 hour <- via twitter

im going bed, fuck it :|

<< Comment #264 @ 19:09 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #257

that isn't djwheat/slasher

<< Comment #267 @ 19:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #257

wise decision man. I am going to do the same

<< Comment #259 @ 19:06 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

America the richest country on earth? embarassing

<< Comment #266 @ 19:10 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #259

"America the richest country on earth?"

I wouldn't call having a billion dollar deficit being rich.

<< Comment #269 @ 19:12 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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v1ze - Reply to #266

uhm....we only do things big

it's TRILLION u norge newb!

<< Comment #277 @ 19:20 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #269

lol, ok

<< Comment #341 @ 01:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #269

might just be you both meant the same ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales

but yeah trillion sounds more awesome, so trillion it is :D

<< Comment #536 @ 08:36 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (dslb-092-073-187-200.pools.arcor-ip.net) - Reply to #266

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

<< Comment #543 @ 08:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #536

that was f*cking awesome lol !

<< Comment #657 @ 11:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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reslox - Reply to #266

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7660409.stm
=)

<< Comment #675 @ 12:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #657

haha

<< Comment #268 @ 19:11 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche - Reply to #259

Since when America is a country ?

Thats like Britney Spears claiming she enjoys stardom because she gets to visit great overseas places like Canada....

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ZeriouS - Reply to #268

What the fuck. I can not believe this statement from a human being, even if it´s her.

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Something - Reply to #401

Agreed :)

<< Comment #270 @ 19:13 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Loop?

esports is gonna take over mainstream!

all matches are on schedule! All fans get info if matches get delayed immediately so they don't waste their precious time waiting for something to happen! the media coverage rules as well! Finally a non buffering HD video stream with synced audio! and all of this doesn't cost the viewer one pence nor does he have to register to a site he doesn't care about to begin with!

great!

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Rondrian - Reply to #270

don't post irony on the web, the fags won't understand it.

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frs

i was spraying cum everywhere and then this shit happens hagihagagaga

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Rondrian

btw. does anyone know whether they are playing in a real LAN enviroment or on teh internet with just a good connection?

wondering if ID managed to create a full working lan system for QL.

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Magician - Reply to #274

ofcourse they are playing on teh internetz, how else could walter be in the tournament?

<< Comment #282 @ 19:22 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #274

Considering I see dkt online and that I have to log-in each time I'm going on QL's website (only during qkcon). I say they're still doing it the internet way.

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hnns - Reply to #282

no, look up any of the accounts.

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efassd - Reply to #274

Having an "internet" server in the same room as you is for all intents and purposes a LAN. That's what QuakeCon has.

Edited by efassd at 01:39 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Carmac - Reply to #274

They had LAN last time, so I don't assume they've gone through a technological regression :)

<< Comment #415 @ 05:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #377

it's quakecon

Edited by Aaron at 05:09 CDT, 14 August 2009

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pl4gue - Reply to #274

it's lan. i get 2-4ms during the games.

<< Comment #275 @ 19:18 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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lizahd

they hosting a complete intranet version of ql

<< Comment #280 @ 19:21 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koOma

is the stream down? 'Ready to receive stream here' :\

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rupertt

walter won over chance it seems :o

edit: well it seems it was chance who won after all, lol... o well.

Edited by carbon38 at 07:51 CDT, 14 August 2009

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #281

uh oh...so it begins!

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Magician - Reply to #281

I bet he crashed the stream so nobody could see his wallhack in action

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sansai - Reply to #281

\o/

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ChOu - Reply to #281

But...

Edited by ChOu at 19:49 CDT, 13 August 2009

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Magician - Reply to #321

George Berkeley was a was an Irish philosopher who created and promoted a theory he called "walter on lan immaterialism" later referred to as "walter on lan subjective idealism". His dictum was "Esse est percipi" - "To be is to be perceived".[1] He talked of objects ceasing to exist once there was nobody around to perceive them. In his work, A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge, he proposes, "But, say you, surely there is nothing easier than for me to imagine walter, for instance, on a lan [. . .] and nobody by to perceive him. [...] The objects of sense exist only when they are perceived; the walter therefore is on the lan [. . .] no longer than while there is somebody by to perceive him."[2] One source[who?] cites him concisely phrasing the question, "If a walter on lan succeeds and no one sees it, did it really succeed?" His philosophical musings had nothing to do with sound at all, neither its physical nature nor its metaphysical possibilities.

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ZeriouS - Reply to #328

awesome adaption :D

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Something - Reply to #328

Very good! :D

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fur*q - Reply to #321

If no one sees it then no one gives a fuck !

But i do hear he's good people.

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zashael - Reply to #321

I love phylosoraptor :D

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_agu - Reply to #321

yo apprecio mucho el humor negro que nosostros tenemos en nuestra raiz! ajjajajajajajajajajaja!!!!!

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linkoo - Reply to #321

original wonder how you came up with it :)))

<< Comment #285 @ 19:25 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

So, how come no cooller, zero 4 or czm this year? Did they quit the game?

<< Comment #286 @ 19:25 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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frs

http://twitter.com/djWHEAT

#QuakeCon ~ Gaylord Internet is hosed. We are recording VODs but hope to have it fixed by tomorrow. It's out of our hands at this point :(

GG.

<< Comment #288 @ 19:26 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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sansai - Reply to #286

/o\

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rupertt - Reply to #286

that means i can go to sleep now, cuz nothing is happening til tomorrow?

<< Comment #290 @ 19:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche - Reply to #286

LoL !

Hopefully the servers are hosted locally :)

<< Comment #294 @ 19:29 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #286

What are the chances a hotel named the Gaylord would have internet problems?

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ArchaiK - Reply to #286

Not to hate on America but many events hosted in the US have Internet/bandwidth problems, what kind of connections are you sitting on over there?

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vamp1re - Reply to #301

We have terrible telecommunications infrastructure. It's not government managed as it is in many European companies.

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efassd - Reply to #309

But... but, private ownership drives competition and hence growth!

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Aquashark - Reply to #309

well.. it's not government managed in 90% of the European countries

next excuse please!

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vamp1re - Reply to #349

Sorry, I should have been more specific, as far as I know telecom is centralized in Sweden and I was responding to swede not all of Europe.

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OmeN_ - Reply to #309

Euskal Encounter is a BYOC event that takes place in Spain. It hosts Gamegune Tourney.

This year, the network speed has been 12 Gb/s simetrical.

Network specs

So, when I read things such as "It is North America's largest LAN party, the largest free LAN party in the world..." about QuakeCon in Wikipedia, I LOL.

Edited by OmeN_ at 03:07 CDT, 14 August 2009

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RaZa - Reply to #309

telecom has been liberalized for years in Europe :)

<< Comment #291 @ 19:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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xou

*down*

<< Comment #292 @ 19:28 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

Great coverage so far, but what is Vo0 doing there? :}

<< Comment #306 @ 19:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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lekz - Reply to #292

losing

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vamp1re - Reply to #292

Vo0 lives in texas, it's only right that he'd show up.

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #296

didn't know that, thanks.

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frag^m - Reply to #296

is Vo0 workin in Texas?

Edited by frag^m at 12:59 CDT, 14 August 2009

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vamp1re - Reply to #689

Continuing his education as far as I know.

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ksingh

Walter beat chance 2-0... He doesn't cheat , end of.

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sansai - Reply to #295

LAN, especially 3 years later, doesn't prove anything. Strenx has cheated online before, in very obvious ways, and he was really bad when he didn't hack for starters.
That doesn't kept him from improving (it certainly helped, in fact, in my opinion), and he performed really well in LANs lately.

Then again I never thought walter ever hacked. Really looking forward to his VODs, always enjoyed watching him play.

Edited by sansai at 20:12 CDT, 13 August 2009

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Gladius - Reply to #329

I think he means walter didn't cheat on this LAN =p

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ksingh - Reply to #351

well yup, but according to the quakcon site, it says chance beat walter.... seems to reversed since last night... This is a very well organised tournament hey..

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rupertt - Reply to #295

well, it seems chance won... he's isnt legit after all, case closed.

<< Comment #297 @ 19:31 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Infamous

Quakecon always delivers

<< Comment #335 @ 01:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #297

Yes

Edited by apoxic at 01:24 CDT, 14 August 2009

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sk!a

FUCKING STREAM SUCKS!!!!!!!

<< Comment #304 @ 19:36 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

walter beat chance, WHAT AN IRONY HAHA.

<< Comment #314 @ 19:45 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #304

Why? He ownz him online doesn't he?

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phz - Reply to #314

chance was one of the first players to accuse Walter of cheating with his famous "I could tell from one rail" comment. In his last interview chance did say he didn't think Walter cheats anymore though.

<< Comment #326 @ 19:58 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #324

heh

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phz - Reply to #326

o i c

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rupertt - Reply to #304

he didn't actually

<< Comment #305 @ 19:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Akuma

damnit!

<< Comment #307 @ 19:37 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead

I really hope QL fucking dies if they don't add GTV.

<< Comment #308 @ 19:40 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio '

Pro-~~gaming~~failing

<< Comment #310 @ 19:41 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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rax-

(01:36:34) (@Lo3|TGM) the problem is kinda out of our hands now
(01:36:41) (@Lo3|TGM) and in hte hands of the network staff
(01:37:40) (@djWHEAT) UPDATES
(01:37:50) (@djWHEAT) guys, the hotel internet has absolutely been failure
(01:37:57) (@Ravager) i knew it
(01:37:58) (@Ravager) lol
(01:38:02) (@djWHEAT) however, they have made it the #1 priority
(01:38:07) (@Lo3|TGM) everyone hates me wheat :(
(01:38:08) (@djWHEAT) and will work through the night to resolve our final issues
(01:38:20) (@djWHEAT) it's totally out of our hands
(01:38:26) (@djWHEAT) we did 2 matches and recorded VOD's
(01:38:39) (@djWHEAT) but Tosspot is raising HELL to get the stream going
(01:38:55) (@Lo3|TGM) are you still recording vods of other matches
(01:38:57) (@Ravager) I'd suggest having the hotel call AT&T
(01:38:59) (@Ravager) :P
(01:38:59) (@Lo3|TGM) or are they holding up the tourney
(01:39:01) (@djWHEAT) sorry for the problems, wish it was something we could resolve, but right now it's up to the qcon staff and the hotel internet
(01:39:08) (@djWHEAT) yeah we recorded vods
(01:39:15) (@Ravager) since that's the ISP supplying internet access to the venue
(01:39:26) (@Lo3|TGM) well we can help out with vods
(01:39:31) (@Lo3|TGM) if you need us to

(01:40:36) (@djWHEAT) MATCHES HAVE HALTED FOR THE NIGHT PER OUR REQUEST
(01:40:46) (@djWHEAT) so yes, no more big matches until tomorrow

Edited by rax- at 19:44 CDT, 13 August 2009

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^AME-

02:41: djWHEAT: MATCHES HAVE HALTED FOR THE NIGHT PER OUR REQUEST

Edited by ^AME- at 19:43 CDT, 13 August 2009

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kajebilo

give us demos of played matches on some ftp!!

<< Comment #318 @ 19:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koOma - Reply to #312

+WAN MIRRIAN

<< Comment #319 @ 19:47 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Leerno

Anyone know if/where those VOD's will be uploaded?

<< Comment #313 @ 19:45 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koji

walter > chance

@djWHEAT> 7-5 ztn || 20-3 t4

<< Comment #315 @ 19:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

FailCon 2009

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FarQ - Reply to #315

CompleteCon 2009

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becks - Reply to #315

actually it does sound like your average quakecon.

minues gtv fail of course :)

<< Comment #316 @ 19:46 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fanfreluche

I still can't decide what's the funniest.

The fact Qcon stream+schedule is god aweful as usual.
or
The fact we are STILL raging at such an obvious outcome, year after year.

Anyways, after watching Carmack talk non stop for 125 minutes, I can take up anything just fine really.

<< Comment #333 @ 20:23 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #316

hehe, right.

<< Comment #320 @ 19:48 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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dem0n

americans cant run tournaments properly ? Give it to europeans please ><...

<< Comment #322 @ 19:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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koji

GO W A L T E R

!@!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #323 @ 19:50 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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darko

walter > chance
20-3 t4
7-5 ztn

^^^^^^^ RAPEEEEEEEE

Edited by darko at 19:51 CDT, 13 August 2009

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bsk

Rofl, I hope walter wins the whole thing. That would be so funny I think I'd slit my wrists and jump into the Thames hugging my laptop and screaming in leet speak.

<< Comment #371 @ 03:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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roffo - Reply to #325

rofl maybe

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phz - Reply to #371

You could see him?

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Carsomyr - Reply to #325

I wanna be there to film it. You jumping into the Thames that is.

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becks - Reply to #340

one four em one three three seven exclamation mark exclamation mark one one.

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bsk - Reply to #347

Since walter actually lost to chance, if he now wins the tournament from the loser's bracket, I think I'll have to set myself on fire too.

<< Comment #331 @ 20:19 CDT, 13 August 2009 >>

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fur*q

Walters hacks broke the stream!!!

<< Comment #339 @ 01:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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efassd

Either Vo0 or walter will get eliminated after the first round, that kinda sucks.

Fixed.

Edited by efassd at 02:15 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Cloud - Reply to #339

walter sucks.

FYP.

<< Comment #342 @ 02:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

Is there a single VOD of any of the games anywhere?

<< Comment #346 @ 02:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rexobb

Quakecon 2009, biggest failure since Quakecon 2008.

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Gladius - Reply to #346

hahaha. sad but true

Edited by Gladius at 02:23 CDT, 14 August 2009

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outlaw

.

Edited by walter at 22:18 CDT, 19 August 2009

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OmeN_ - Reply to #348

dumb excuses

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zashael - Reply to #350

Playing for first time on LAN (and on this kind of tournaments) is a valid excuse.

<< Comment #352 @ 02:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Adel - Reply to #348

Scores ?

<< Comment #355 @ 02:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #348

oh damn, sad to hear that mate. hope you get things straight in your next round!

<< Comment #359 @ 02:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #355

kill yourself

<< Comment #385 @ 03:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #359

I actually meant that =(

<< Comment #394 @ 04:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #385

level?

<< Comment #357 @ 02:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #348

Oh, come on... you cannot choke. You're serving higher purposes than your own mere experience. Feed the e-drama, beat 'em all!

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murph - Reply to #348

go Walter!

<< Comment #378 @ 03:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #348

I think they reverse the order in which they put players on the lower bracket in DE for every other round of play. So I don't think you're playing chance again if the bracket is done right.

<< Comment #417 @ 05:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #378

cool

<< Comment #576 @ 09:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koji - Reply to #348

just pick a new map against voo :)

<< Comment #354 @ 02:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic

Wait, there are people surprised and complaining about the event and coverage? Do we really have to go over this every single year?

<< Comment #365 @ 02:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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murph - Reply to #354

yes. of course we do. that's the way of the community.

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Cloud - Reply to #354

we're not supposed to complain? Just let them be?

<< Comment #407 @ 04:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic - Reply to #400

Let who be? The guys who run Quakecon? They don't care. They've specifically stated that they don't care, and show open hostility to the tournaments.

<< Comment #419 @ 05:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #407

so fuckin what?

<< Comment #420 @ 05:16 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic - Reply to #419

So this event is better ignored than raged about.

<< Comment #429 @ 05:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #420

shut up

<< Comment #433 @ 05:52 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic - Reply to #429

No.

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Cloud - Reply to #433

and in the end due to all of the critique and outcry of "care" the stream was fixed and actually pretty well done, especially for quakecon standards. And as was predicted you ended up being totally fucking wrong, as usual.

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vedic - Reply to #1694

I could say that your post was not stupid for Jamerio standards, but that doesn't make it any less retarded.

Sad that you whined/raged for such shitty coverage, AND that you think it had some part in the fixing of said coverage due to your whining/raging.

My tax dollars are providing your education - stop wasting them.

<< Comment #358 @ 02:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius

\o/ at the ppl who stayed up to watch the first games. I got up with the QL-TV which was casting a King of the Hill tournament game, which went into overtime! (stream was a bit shite though, so I couldn't read the nicknames)

<< Comment #360 @ 02:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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crv

MADE THE FUCKING QUAKECON IN EUROPE

<< Comment #370 @ 03:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p5B3FEABD.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #360

i blame crv :/

<< Comment #499 @ 07:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #360

they did ?

<< Comment #361 @ 02:34 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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1ecb61110

Stream smart, GTV stupid!

<< Comment #362 @ 02:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #361

The mere mention of "video stream" makes me cringe.

<< Comment #363 @ 02:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tifu

guess i'm glad i gave it up after 30min of delay
hope to see at least few nice matches in this ocean of fail

<< Comment #364 @ 02:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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murph

GO GO DAHANG!!!!!!!!!! REPRESENT!

<< Comment #368 @ 02:52 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead

Demos?

<< Comment #372 @ 03:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #368

haha, nice one!

<< Comment #381 @ 03:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #372

why so ironic? WHY?!?!?!?!

<< Comment #421 @ 05:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #372

why not? Actually is the only thing I am waiting for, since there is no GTV and stream definitely doesn't work for games.

GTV actually is the only one thing that games like quake have it better than real sports. In no other sport you can watch the game from player's eyes perspective.

<< Comment #439 @ 06:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #421

sure I wait for them, like every year, but I have little faith that they get released soonish

<< Comment #457 @ 06:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #368

In the rules they must have autorecord demos. So at least they are beeing made, and even if the stream is not working currently (hopefully tonight) I still believe we will see demos at some point. If it's during or shortly after the tournament I don't know.

<< Comment #470 @ 07:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #457

thx for that

<< Comment #376 @ 03:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK

so if walter lost why has everyone posted false information? bunch of heathens covering this or what?

<< Comment #379 @ 03:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #376

It was kind of amusing, though!

<< Comment #391 @ 04:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #376

because its esr.

<< Comment #395 @ 04:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ksingh - Reply to #376

On the Quakecon site and other ones it said 2-0 to walter ( stream had stopped working).
But they changed it the other way now... they can't even get the score right....

<< Comment #519 @ 08:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #376

I heard it from djwheat, who I assumed was a reliable source :/

<< Comment #380 @ 03:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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cYmoZz

cause 1057 = lost cauze?

great match ups in round 2, lets hope they fix their connection

Edited by cYmoZz at 03:49 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #382 @ 03:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #380

1057 = LOST

Could be :)

<< Comment #388 @ 04:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #382

it should be "815 Cause" (815 is the Oceanic flight # on LOST).

<< Comment #386 @ 03:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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swine - Reply to #380

yes

<< Comment #425 @ 05:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Something - Reply to #380

Ah! I was wondering who beat Madix :) Makes sense.

<< Comment #383 @ 03:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark

fucking american internet.. fail over and over again

<< Comment #384 @ 03:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Kizaru - Reply to #383

More like fucking Quakecon.. fail over and over again.

<< Comment #389 @ 04:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark - Reply to #384

yeah, i can't imagine how disappointed djwheat is..

he was hyping the stream in a long time

<< Comment #392 @ 04:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (hdt126.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) - Reply to #384

lol.... matches are running atm and we watch nothing on quadv......
great job quadv....... hope you won't stream anyother ql events...

<< Comment #402 @ 04:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #392

not their fault idiot

<< Comment #445 @ 06:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #402

yeah not their fault. QuadV is blaming the hotel network guys, the hotel network guys are blaming the ISP, the ISP is probably blaming some two week old intern, the intern is blaming his mother for waking him up late and the mother is blaming a malfunctioning alarmclock caused by a lightning strike.

The only one to blame is mother nature really

<< Comment #534 @ 08:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rockz - Reply to #445

no,

<< Comment #387 @ 03:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n

How have they done the bracket ? What was the seed of the players ?

Is it normal to have most of the euro players on the same branch of the bracket (they have to fight each others) ?

rapha have a "safe" bracket till the semi. (no injure to griffin nor dahang) but on the other hand fox have to win against linkin & spartie to reach the semi (against rapha I expect).

<< Comment #390 @ 04:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #387

well that would give fox better preperation

<< Comment #393 @ 04:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #387

i had similar impression

last "quarter" of this bracket is a joke

<< Comment #397 @ 04:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #387

your under estimating dahan/dkt/griffin.
tbh from now on anything can happen.

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hnns - Reply to #387

griffin and dahang are both better than linkin and most likely better than spartie too.

Edited by hnns at 04:37 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Gladius - Reply to #398

griffin: no (from what I've seen in the past + eswc)
dahang: maybe, haven't seen him in QL.
How do you rate their chances, having probably seen both the euro's & these two?

I'm very curious to see how linkin will do; he's got the aim & the skill to beat any top player, but I think he will fall short just a little to make it to the top in a big event.

I sure hope we're in for some surprises though!

Edited by Gladius at 04:54 CDT, 14 August 2009

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hnns - Reply to #409

you have seen any of griffin in QL? they're NA #2 and #3 fyi.

<< Comment #531 @ 08:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #410

does dahang knows those new maps? Seems he dropped a map vs whaz

<< Comment #542 @ 08:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #531

i think he's one of the players who likes the new maps.

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Paladia - Reply to #398

That doesn't really matter. This is the first real international QL tournament. It's hardly wise to place all the US and all the EU players in different brackets.

Why would you want to see all US players get eliminated by other US players and all EU players get eliminated by other EU players when US and EU finally meets?

EU facing other EU and US facing other US we already see in every other random online tournament.

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hnns - Reply to #446

Brackets should be determed by PROPER SEED and not COUNTRY. That's ridicilous. This might just be bad luck but nothing to freak out over. It's not even as bad as you're making it out to be anyway.

Edited by hnns at 06:34 CDT, 14 August 2009

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becks - Reply to #456

true they should. but how do you determine PROPER SEEDS with players from two different continents that have never met on LAN for this specific game, and haven't met on LAN for a comparable game (Q3) for quite some time?

I daresay it's simply impossible.

<< Comment #466 @ 06:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #461

from reading ESR of course!

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #456

you are right, but it was my 1st question (w/o answer) : "How have they done the bracket ? What was the seed of the players ?"

In fact I dunno if someone really knows how they managed to build the bracket.

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Paladia - Reply to #456

Of course, you should estimate the seeds, has anyone said otherwise? However, it's almost impossible to determain who is the better player when two communities has not faced each other. So if your guesswork of a seed places all the continents in different brackets, you may just as well switch it out a bit.

What's the point of the continents eliminating themselves instead of facing each other when they finally meet?

<< Comment #504 @ 08:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #481

imo there should be no continent stuff at all, just random names

<< Comment #515 @ 08:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #481

there is a losers bracket u know?

<< Comment #528 @ 08:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #456

Detective, how are you going to properly seed players that don't play against each other in a game which has hardly any prior results to go by?!

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hnns - Reply to #528

Yeah dude, I had no idea fox was gonna beat Clamp-OK. I mean we have NO data to base that out.

Never said they could make it perfect, I said it's more proper to use skill rather than continent for brackets. And there is significant data to go by.

Edited by hnns at 09:44 CDT, 14 August 2009

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PURRI - Reply to #564

In QL we don't. You are just assuming.

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hnns - Reply to #573

for eu players amongst themselves and NA players between themselves id do have significant data. inter-continental comparison is mostly assuminng yes. but they can logically assume most of it. what are you suggesting they do instead anyway?

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PURRI - Reply to #582

I don't know. I was just noticing that we have no idea how bad/good Clamp is. Perhaps he has been boot camping for 6 months with 25 fakes. That was my point :)

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Carmac - Reply to #564

Oh yeah? Like stermy beating av3k in a show match? Those are the results you're talking about?

Give me a decent list of FACTS which would allow you to fairly seed 16 players in the QuakeCon tournament.

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hnns - Reply to #581

You're assuming any of this is supposed to be exact science or completely fair. It's not and I didn't claim it was. My point was that you should rather use certain factors to assume skill than base it on something completely stupid like country or location. Is that what you want done, or do you have any other proposal, or do even you have a point at all?

These "certain factors" are all the data id has from the multiple days of play all the top EU players have played against each other. Add to this the high number of recent online tournament with occasional participation of most if not all of the players seeded. Now you have a pretty decent, yet imperfect, raw idea of ranking between the european players.

You can get a decent idea from all the games the NA players have played each other too. Naturally you can't perfectly compare them to the EU players. But you can assume for most of it, based on their games against other players, based on Q3 results and QL results against Q3 players. For instance you could assume fox should be seeded higher than Clamp-OK. You could also logically assume rapha and dahang should be seeded higher than HELL and madix.

Not perfect, some of it is guesswork, as it was in Q3. But you can at least use it to differentiate the über high skilled players from the medium skilled players from the lower skilled players.

Edited by hnns at 10:18 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Carmac - Reply to #596

You're assuming any of this is supposed to be exact science or completely fair. It's not and I didn't claim it was. My point was that you should rather use certain factors to assume skill than base it on something completely stupid like country or location. Is that what you want done, or do you have any other proposal, or do even you have a point at all?

I believe you said there's "significant data" and then you say that in order to seed everyone you need a decent deal of guessing assuming. If you admit you can't get it to be fair and that there is in fact little to no data to rate the Euros vs the Americans, then is your solution this much better than seeding players by continent?

(I do agree seeding ONLY by territory sucks.)

What I suggested to the QuakeCon staff was to seed the NA players and the Euro players separately, then combine those seedings NA-Euro-NA-Euro, etc. This way you can get a fairly good bracket and the benefit of seeing more matches that you otherwise just don't see.

Would it really be fun for a player to go across the ocean only to be eliminated by two guys he plays pretty much every day? Who would it be fun for really?

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hnns - Reply to #762

I agree it would be more fun for the spectactors and for many of the players. But this is a professional tournament with a 25.000$ prize pool. The goal should be to decide the best 3 players in attendance. The most rational and fair thing to do is try to base the seeds based on skill and skill only. Even if the basis for determening this is imperfect, it doesn't justify the tournament organizers choosing seeds that will be more fun at the cost of rationality.

If you think they're completely shooting in the dark anyway then I see what you're saying and we have to disagree. But it's my opinion that even with the short longevity of QL and lack of inter-continental games there are rational factors they can go by that are more correct than EU-NA-EU-NA system. And "most correct" IS what they should go by.

Playing on the EU-NA rift is fun but it's mostly in eyes of the spectactors, that aren't flying to Texas for money. As long as its not an explicated angle of Quakecon, and I believe it never has been, it shouldn't impact the fairness of the outcome AT ALL.

Edited by hnns at 19:21 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Carmac - Reply to #834

Would you honestly have seeded the QuakeCon players close to the following order?

1-2 Cypher, rapha
3-4 spartie, dahang
5-6 dkt, stermy
7-8 griffin, fox
and then av3k, killsen, chance and fazz

I don't see how any attempt of a seed would have not been to a large extent random. So if we're going to have a pretty random seed, why not accept that fact?

Why not assume it's going to be random to some extent anyway and at least introduce a system which allows for a better show and more entertainment for the players?

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hnns - Reply to #1088

honestly i would've seeded it like this

1. fox rapha
2. cypher av3k
3. dahang, stermy

Cypher and av3k below fox and rapha since they're probably not as practiced. Dahang and stermy based on following their profile and how they probably put more hours into QL than anyone else in attendance. It's no surprise that the ones who were top tier at the end of Q3 are doing extremely good at QL.

Then we have upsets like DKT which only makes it fun especially if he's seeded low originally.

Granted, the original brackets were a little jaded at the first round but it turned out pretty nicely, top 6 had 3 americans, 3 europeans. As it stands we have 2 americans and 2 europeans left in the tourney.

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Carmac - Reply to #1135

Looking at the results of QCon, this seeding would have given you one "final worthy" semi final with Cypher and rapha and one 5th-7th place worthy semi final.

Too random to be good enough if you ask me. Mine would have been too random as well. I agree that you can make a seeding list and justify all of it, but at the end of the day, to really assess players' performance well, you need prior results.

<< Comment #583 @ 09:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #564

Don't see what the harm would be if you switched places of for example DaHang and k1llsen (or Griffin and k1llsen).

Edited by Paladia at 09:56 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Aaron - Reply to #446

lol idiot

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Paladia - Reply to #462

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1717037#pid1717037

<< Comment #484 @ 07:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #483

yes.

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f0cus - Reply to #387

edit: FFS, I'm mad about it too. DaHand plays Griffin already? I agree, there should have been more shuffle of the deck than this. NA vs NA and Euro vs Euro makes me sad.

Edited by focus at 09:35 CDT, 14 August 2009

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f0cus - Reply to #387

rapha have a "safe" bracket till the semi. (no injure to griffin nor dahang) but on the other hand fox have to win against linkin & spartie to reach the semi (against rapha I expect).

lol at all of this...

lol

<< Comment #1600 @ 17:38 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1006

And ? I was right about fox, he lost vs spartie. (so it was difficult for him to reach the semi, as spartie is a good player... stronger than griffin and dahang).

<< Comment #396 @ 04:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ted

as usual, the quality coverage we've come to expect

<< Comment #399 @ 04:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #396

the coverage isn't the problem, it's the internet of the gaylord. djwheat and co actually got the games in the second round to be postponed until its fixed.

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becks - Reply to #399

does it really matter where the problem lies and whose fault it is?

if it's not something unforeseeable lika a tornado or a power shortage these things should be tested and sorted before the players even arrive. That is if you really want to do it on a professional level.

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hnns - Reply to #412

of course it matters when the wrong guys are being blamed. the fault lies with ID software and their incredible incompetence - not the quadv guys.

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p4r4 - Reply to #416

How about audio problems that weren't fixed for 2 hours, setting up the config during the stream going already, and horrible image stretching from 4:3 to 16:9 which still isn't fixed? Also id Software's fault?
It is clear, that there weren't any preparations or tests before the stream actually went live. Otherwise they could've created the configs beforehand and notice and fix audio and aspect ratio problems.

<< Comment #440 @ 06:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #432

maybe they were, i dunno, testing the stream? if they fix whatever problems put the stream down everybody QQing wont even remember the first day problems by the end and talking about how good it was.

<< Comment #441 @ 06:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #432

You can set the image-stretching yourself, in the right bottom corner... blame yourself

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p4r4 - Reply to #441

For me, it just scales the picture, without changing aspect ratio.

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hnns - Reply to #432

pull that stick out of your ass m8

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becks - Reply to #416

the technical fault probably lies with id. And I think you misunderstood a little. I am not trying to blame the guys from quad-v as such. I want to point out what they should do if they want to take shoutcasting seriously.

If you want to earn money as a professional shoutcasting company you should simply check if everything at the venue works and you should do that ahead of time. And if it's only to make sure your name is not connected to a big fuck up like here.
For example you could add something like this to the contract:

We reserve the right to test technical and other standars at the predefined venue at least 4 days before the first scheduled broadcast. If the technical standards do not meet our specifications the customer can amend the flaws until one day before the broadcast. If the specifications are not met by then we reserve the right to cancel the broadcast without waiving any monetary obligations from teh customer toward us.

I think with terms like that the quakecon technicians might be a little more helpful.

Also id software has stated millions of times that the fund the thing, they don't run it.

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hnns - Reply to #442

My reply was designated for #397 and the multiple other similar comments so I don't think i'm misunderstanding anything :). You're being a little naive if you think guys like quadV, which I imagine for the most part are in volunteer work, have the resources or knowledge to stress test a 7000 people LAN even prior to it even taking place. It's absolutely unimaginable.

They can put clauses in a contract with threats to back out if anything should go down, but it wouldn't make the onsite tech guys or the ISP they're relying do anything different to prevent something like this happening. They should already be taking every precaution. id are being helpful in that they postponed the tournament specifically for the casters. that's about the most useful thing they could've asked to have put in the contract - if a contract even exists.

Edited by hnns at 06:36 CDT, 14 August 2009

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becks - Reply to #454

as far as I understood the problem lies with the hotel's internet connection. Which really shouldn't have that much to do with the LAN, or am I that naive? (Well, ok, maybe there is tons of people using wireless internet access there or something.) But if the bottle neck is really just the hotel's connection then I am quite positive the QuadV guys have to ability to test their stream.

I also think you might be a little naive when it comes to contracts.

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hnns - Reply to #459

well in any case i'd say the internet traffic from the Gaylord this thursday was a few thousand percent more than at any other day they could or should have tested. the only people that could have anticipated anything was id in collaboration with the isp and hotel management. the responsibility of the quadV guys was making sure their end - the internet hosts they relied on - was working. and it did, despite streaming video to multiple thousand people from mostly one source, it never went down. you're right about me being naive about the contract, naturally there is one, but that's a little bit beside the point.

Edited by hnns at 06:49 CDT, 14 August 2009

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becks - Reply to #465

well, I think we agree on almost all you said.
Except that I think (and that was my point from the beginning) that QuadV should make that working connection their business, even though they neither have to provide the connection nor the technology, they might not even capable to run the proper tests.
What they should do nevertheless is say: "Ok, we are gonna fly one guy to Dallas on monday, please provide a representative from the hotel, quakecon and if possible / necessary a guy from the isp who are prepared to test the connection. Then our guys takes them by the hand and we do the test together, if something goes wrong we fix it."

It might sound a little dumb and costly to do, but believe me, you would be amazed how different people behave when someone is simply there asking questions.

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becks - Reply to #465

I think I found a good example:

If you have a plumber who is supposed to fix your pipes before a party on friday and you know he sometimes a little unreliable.
Would you try to get him to come on monday and supervise his work a little, even though you know shit (pun intended) about pipes?
Or would you just trust him to come in on the friday and fix everythin while you are away buying the beer?

And do you think someone who takes the latter approach shares a little of the blame if the shit hits the fan during the party?

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hnns - Reply to #489

Yeah... I'm afraid i'm going to have to report you to the analogy police for this one. :) Besides, if you call a plumber and tell him to come by monday he won't be there until friday afternoon.

<< Comment #568 @ 09:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ArchaiK - Reply to #454

Quadv is a real company, i.e they GET PAYED. Get your facts straight, it's not volunteer work.

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hnns - Reply to #568

I never said they didn't get paid. anyway, irrelevant to my point.

Edited by hnns at 09:42 CDT, 14 August 2009

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ted - Reply to #416

Sounds awfully familiar to the same excuses I heard last year. I don't really care what the problem is this year - quakecon NEVER delivers.

Edited by ted at 11:22 CDT, 14 August 2009

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rupertt - Reply to #412

thing is, it has ALWAYS been the hotels internet connection that has ruined the coverage. That's why the streaming of the event has been crap the last years.

I was smacking my forhead when I first saw they annouced Hilton Anatole as the location of quakecon 2009. They changed it like 2 months ago, but of course the internet connection to the hotel wasn't really a priority, tho from what I understand it was better than Antatole.

Better, perhapse, if they just went on with the event and put up demos and videos after it has ended. And comeback next year with a location that can actually handle a live stream and coverage.

After 4 failed attempts they must have learned.

... but I wouldn't put money on that :(

<< Comment #403 @ 04:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (hdt126.internetdsl.tpnet.pl)

ehmmm I got "ready to receive stream" info old the time....
why there is nothing on stream atm? acording to schedule LB playing now

<< Comment #408 @ 04:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Raist - Reply to #403

its like 5 Am in texas atm...

<< Comment #411 @ 05:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

Quakecon 2007

Editing fat people out

Quakecon 2008, where a chick without a bra and guitar hero matters more :(

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Shaddap - Reply to #411

Quakecon 2009...?

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EKSelenc - Reply to #413

4 more tickets?

<< Comment #482 @ 07:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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EKSelenc - Reply to #413

Oh wait was this "Who's playing Martie" thingy just for the show or were they serious O_o

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r4pe - Reply to #411

on the pic with the fat guy it is 2006. NOT 2007

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becks - Reply to #448

afair that was a advertisement for the next quakecon (2007) or something

<< Comment #1733 @ 08:45 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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r4pe - Reply to #450

if it is an add for the next Qcon the pic is from 2k5... ;)

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becks - Reply to #1733

O.o

do you see the banner in the background on both versions? original is 2006, copy was made for 2007 afair.

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r4pe - Reply to #1734

oh... now i understand ;)

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Carsomyr - Reply to #411

Legendary.

<< Comment #539 @ 08:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rockz - Reply to #411

is the editing thing really true?

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vkl - Reply to #539

ye

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rockz - Reply to #578

lol, still cant beliefe it

<< Comment #431 @ 05:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oSpa_aka_heyv

it'l be intersting to watch how walter is playing)

<< Comment #435 @ 05:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #431

yeah, sadly we'll never see what happened, 'cause the people organizing the event are fucking retards. :(

<< Comment #426 @ 05:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

well
if online stream failed, where are the vods and demos of first matches?

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 05:40 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #427 @ 05:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #426

One week after the event, don't you remember 2008? ;)

<< Comment #436 @ 05:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #427

they should upload what they got yesterday already, to compensate shitty coverage
any1 here could upload the videos in a few minutes
incompetents

<< Comment #437 @ 05:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #427

and with the demos it is even more easy, because filesize, and it's not like they would have to organise demos (remember 2008?)

<< Comment #452 @ 06:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #437

or 2006 (q4)

<< Comment #430 @ 05:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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[mash]

walter actually being there is so awesome.

<< Comment #434 @ 05:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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juM8o

walter did loose vs chance after all?

<< Comment #438 @ 06:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #434

ask Obama :P
http://tournaments.quakecon.org/tournament/sc...namentid=5

<< Comment #451 @ 06:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #434

Why do people keep misspelling "lose"?

<< Comment #479 @ 07:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Adel - Reply to #451

As long as they don't misspell coloUrs I'm cool.

<< Comment #885 @ 22:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #479

Color or Colour, needer are spelled wrong and mean the same thing.

<< Comment #899 @ 01:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #885

[spelling Nazi]
neither
[/spelling Nazi]

Edited by mars needs women at 01:43 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Carsomyr - Reply to #899

Which means that he is a spelling-Jew.

<< Comment #945 @ 05:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #935

Spelling Jew.

l2English

:P

<< Comment #1076 @ 10:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #899

And that would remind me to not post seconds after waking up, lol.

Also, will not edit the other post for lulz factor.

Edited by apoxic at 10:47 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #464 @ 06:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #434

.

Edited by Bob at 15:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #469 @ 06:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #464

anything excepting the $14.000

<< Comment #508 @ 08:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #464

unlike you

<< Comment #550 @ 09:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #508

yep, but I'm pretty sure the original photo with Urtier was also on the site at some point.

<< Comment #880 @ 21:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #550

i don't know about any of that

<< Comment #699 @ 13:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #508

.

Edited by Bob at 15:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #443 @ 06:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Rondrian

is there a new schedule around somewhere?

.. oh wait doesnt matter, they wouldn't stick to it anyways.

Edited by Rondrian at 06:06 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #449 @ 06:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

if there is bandwidth pb and other stuff like this: how come carmack live speach was going ok?

<< Comment #458 @ 06:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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x37wfd836326a37 - Reply to #449

bcoz it was thru ustream so they needed like 350kbbs up only
maybe quadtv needs their own bandwich from gaylord

<< Comment #455 @ 06:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

GIVE WALTER HUB! LEAVE WALTER ALONE!

<< Comment #460 @ 06:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 15:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #467 @ 06:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #460

walter lost to chance 2:0

LB: walter vs fiend, pending.

dissapointed if he gets knocked out this fast.

<< Comment #488 @ 07:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Equim - Reply to #467

it's walter vs vo0 in the losers bracket

<< Comment #491 @ 07:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #488

.

Edited by Bob at 15:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #468 @ 06:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

btw, crap coverage as expected.

<< Comment #471 @ 07:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

Also, QL has gtv already or not?

<< Comment #473 @ 07:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #471

it hasnt

<< Comment #476 @ 07:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #471

yes, it has

<< Comment #490 @ 07:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #471

it might or it might not

<< Comment #523 @ 08:20 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #490

Conclusive replies.

<< Comment #548 @ 09:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #523

yeah, but the last two guys are trolling!

<< Comment #623 @ 10:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #548

gg

<< Comment #480 @ 07:16 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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STINGpl

All WB1 matches were finished? Or av3k vs pyro and tox1c vs GaRpY havent played?

<< Comment #485 @ 07:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #480

av3k 2-0 pyro & garpy 2-0 tox1c (seen on fnatic.com)

http://www.fnatic.com/news/3449/QuakeCon-Duel-Bracket.html

<< Comment #494 @ 07:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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STINGpl - Reply to #485

Thanks v much ;)

<< Comment #546 @ 08:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #485

Enm... Following http://www.quadv.com/quakeconlive av3k vs pyro & tox1c vs Garpy hasnt been played yet :)

<< Comment #475 @ 07:09 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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spartaz0rd

total epic uber overpowered fail as usual

<< Comment #478 @ 07:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #475

epic, where unreal meets quake

<< Comment #487 @ 07:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #475

ubers should be overpowered! no more noob scouts spamming with sandman.

<< Comment #477 @ 07:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TUMULT

*

tox1c

<< Comment #486 @ 07:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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reyu

shit and there I was last night thinking that it's my internets fault that I can't watch the steam :/

<< Comment #492 @ 07:42 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #486

hi Ray, I think their might be two other reasons why you couldn't watch it.
a) you are blind b) you are dead

<< Comment #552 @ 09:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #492

ray charles ! what do I win ?

<< Comment #575 @ 09:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #552

a link to his profile:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=29872

<< Comment #594 @ 10:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #575

woohoo !

<< Comment #599 @ 10:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #594

:)

<< Comment #725 @ 14:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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reyu - Reply to #492

great movie, thou that's not the reason why I chose this nickname ;D

<< Comment #496 @ 07:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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psionyx

top five prediction

1) stermy
2) fox
3) rapha
4) cypher
5) spart1e

go europe :}

<< Comment #500 @ 07:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #496

more like

1 cypher
2 rapha
3 stermy
4 fox

mark my words! :x

<< Comment #513 @ 08:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #500

ye, seems more likely

<< Comment #525 @ 08:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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psionyx - Reply to #500

good top four.

i feel like a kid in a sweet shop and keep changing my mind—
too much win to choose from

<< Comment #593 @ 10:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #500

replace anyone with av3k

<< Comment #502 @ 08:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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earthworm - Reply to #496

sounds fairly alright - maybe swapping rapha and fox. I reckon the 10 min timelimit and big maplist is going to throw a few surprises though.

<< Comment #540 @ 08:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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psionyx - Reply to #502

agreed.

i think the format definitely gives aim>brain players a chance to upset.

with that in mind i think that from europe spart1e, k1llsen and l1nkin could do some damage (don't know which US and CA players are strong aimers right now).

well executed +back play in 10min format would be interesting... where's jibo these days?

Edited by psionyx at 08:46 CDT, 14 August 2009

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xou

Added all CTF lineups.

<< Comment #495 @ 07:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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calleking

It's understandable that the connection is having issues with the stream but where's the coverage? There's been hundreds of tournaments over the years and every single one of them managed to AT LEAST post scores and demos.

There are no results. (We want maps and scores)
There are no demos.

First real tournament and basic stuff like the ones pointed out above don't get adressed. Such a dissapointment. Really. Hoping for the best tho :)

Edited by vanion at 07:48 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #501 @ 08:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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trippy

didn't carmac say there was going to be amazing streaming quality.. yet to see it... :(

<< Comment #503 @ 08:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #501

it was amazing when it was up.

<< Comment #507 @ 08:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #503

he was reffering to him (it was amazing as long as carmack was on the spotlight)

<< Comment #565 @ 09:34 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #501

Hey, I'm just watching the stream from home... like you.

<< Comment #579 @ 09:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #565

i'm at work ;p i just thought it was you who stated on some esl show that the streams were going to be great all this new technology etc etc :o)

<< Comment #584 @ 09:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #579

The QuakeCon stream has little to do with ESLTV and I don't really know much about QuadV's backend, so I couldn't have said that :)

<< Comment #586 @ 09:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #584

maybe i am wrong, i'll chec k the vods and hound you down later ;)

<< Comment #506 @ 08:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

One big [+] for the one who can provide me with pyro & klown real names!

<< Comment #509 @ 08:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #506

google it, dude :p

<< Comment #510 @ 08:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #506

james "pryo" dylan - he's from chicago and theodore "klown" stanza - he's from NY i think albany.

<< Comment #511 @ 08:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic - Reply to #506

Hubert Cumberdale and Milford Cubicle.

<< Comment #512 @ 08:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #506

I can't do that, but you might consider removing the 's' from 'information'. :)

<< Comment #529 @ 08:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #512

wat

<< Comment #520 @ 08:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #506

Stephen Mercsak
Rogelio Vela

<< Comment #530 @ 08:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #520

google failed =(

<< Comment #527 @ 08:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #506

Roger "pyro" Johnson
David "klown" Baltimore

<< Comment #535 @ 08:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #527

Rogelio "clowN" Vela
( http://www.gotfrag.com/quake/story/35865/ )

<< Comment #570 @ 09:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frame - Reply to #506

one is named adamantius diamantopulus as far as i m concerned.

<< Comment #518 @ 08:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-92-37-9-117.dynamic.amis.net)

vo0 vs Walter next match up keke ^ ^

<< Comment #567 @ 09:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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cK-ermac - Reply to #518

v00 will get rolled by walter.

<< Comment #516 @ 08:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

Added a poll for CTF: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1734570

<< Comment #524 @ 08:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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atomigo - Reply to #516

Loaded will win, cause walter is the man! (why ever)

<< Comment #522 @ 08:20 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio '

FOOTAGE!

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1734577

<< Comment #526 @ 08:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

looking forward seeing av3k vs fazz. could be interesting.

<< Comment #532 @ 08:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bono - Reply to #526

ya fazz has a cool style from what ive seen.

Edited by Bono at 08:36 CDT, 14 August 2009

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psionyx - Reply to #526

looking forward to a possible stermy vs av3k match-up after the esl exhibition show.

i'm hopeful of some av3k captain caveman rage

<< Comment #549 @ 09:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #545

:)

<< Comment #533 @ 08:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16

Duel results isnt hidden on front page, but when i go to comment it is, weird!

<< Comment #538 @ 08:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #533

That's an old bug being revived.

<< Comment #541 @ 08:42 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #538

ah, nm its fixed itself now anyways :-)

<< Comment #544 @ 08:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TUMULT

Go mojo! haha ;) tox1c could take part in this tournament, he would take that one easly

Edited by freak!? at 08:52 CDT, 14 August 2009

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vicek - Reply to #544

tricky canadians

<< Comment #889 @ 22:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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meat man - Reply to #544

lol, played 4 duels in the past year

played 2 noobs really close, lost to 1 noob really close :D

need a reason to actually take quake serious, I think the reason will end up being me saving esports. But that would mean that I wont be able to play, which is cool :D

<< Comment #551 @ 09:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koOma

stream still not up?

<< Comment #553 @ 09:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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PURRI

Games start 17.00cet today? If not, please reply to me when =)

<< Comment #554 @ 09:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #553

was supposed to start at 16:00 CET, so 20 mins ago. #quadv on qnet is going crazy :D

<< Comment #555 @ 09:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

top five prediction

1) dead stream
2) dead stream
3) dead stream
4) dead stream
5) laggy stream

Go Go gadget-o-fail !

<< Comment #556 @ 09:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

what am I supposed to do on this broken site to get to the video stream ?

(so far I've (re)instaled the flash player as advertised, even tried in IE ; the rewind feature looks cool, can't wait to rewind to when the stream worked !)

<< Comment #557 @ 09:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

All whining to death

Edited by xou at 09:28 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #559 @ 09:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

16:26.26 ( @djWHEAT ) looks like we're gonna have some streaming today, internet may have been fixed by the decrepid hotel staff
16:26.42 ( @djWHEAT ) will have some more updates for you soon
16:27.02 ( @djWHEAT ) stream should be up very soon, at least for testing
16:27.13 ( @djWHEAT ) 10 AM matches are supposed to start

9%

<< Comment #561 @ 09:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #559

You beat me sir :x

<< Comment #562 @ 09:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #559

yeah, "awesome".

i predict that there won't be any live games in decent quality until i leave the house @ ~7pm.

<< Comment #560 @ 09:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

<djWHEAT> stream should be up very soon, at least for testing
<djWHEAT> that's like 30 minutes

<< Comment #569 @ 09:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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cK-ermac

well shit, garpy came in good shape eh?

<< Comment #602 @ 10:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #569

definitely...he aint 'playin' so to speak...

<< Comment #571 @ 09:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ArchaiK

They can't have QuakeCon in this shitty hotell anymore.

<< Comment #574 @ 09:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

#QuakeCon ~ We're told internet is fixed. Matches should begin at 10AM CDT. 1v1 & CTF ALL DAY LONG!
http://twitter.com/djWHEAT

<< Comment #587 @ 09:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #574

"10AM CDT"

so that's like 4:00PM GMT ?

<< Comment #588 @ 10:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vedic - Reply to #587

10AM in Texas is right now.

<< Comment #589 @ 10:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #588

ok, i was right then.

<< Comment #577 @ 09:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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^AME-

ql-tv stream is working

<< Comment #580 @ 09:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Wasted

Does anybody know if there will be a audio only stream also ?

<< Comment #591 @ 10:09 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #580

you can try this: http://quakeunity.com:8000/listen.pls
I'm not sure it's in use or not.

Edited by xou at 10:09 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Mr_Chaos

So it's
US 2 - 8 EU

<< Comment #590 @ 10:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT

In theory problems should be solved :) We've got to change the embed code that people are using on their various sites so some may not be streaming - djwheat.tv is being updated now and quadv as soon as a dev comes online.

<< Comment #597 @ 10:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (ip-78-94-72-120.unitymediagroup.de)

yeeha, walter is nothing on LAN

<< Comment #619 @ 10:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #597

it's nothink, you dush!

<< Comment #624 @ 10:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vkl - Reply to #619

it`s douche, douche!

<< Comment #630 @ 10:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #624

fu*k :(

<< Comment #721 @ 13:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #630

fuck*

<< Comment #658 @ 12:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Jubei - Reply to #597

To be honest, i would find it pretty impossible to play on another setup than my own from home, different desk/chair...not to mention the atmosphere.

Stuff that likely comes with more practise at these events, but at least he is there which should stop some of the bitching that is inherant whenever walter is mentioned on this webby.

<< Comment #592 @ 10:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

[17:10:05] <djWHEAT> Stream is up at http://www.djwheat.tv
[17:10:17] <djWHEAT> still doing some testing but things are going well so far
[17:10:22] <djWHEAT> first matches have NOT started yet
[17:10:33] <djWHEAT> so we will do some pre-show and then hit up the first matches

<< Comment #595 @ 10:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

round 4 predictions:

k1llsen vs stermy
fox vs rapha

<< Comment #629 @ 10:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vkl - Reply to #595

k1llsen will have to beat cypher...hopefully he does so.

<< Comment #674 @ 12:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #629

yep, that was my prediction.

<< Comment #598 @ 10:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

as always @ qcon, noone knows when something starts, and everything is "in process"

<< Comment #600 @ 10:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koOma

wheat stream live \o/

<< Comment #601 @ 10:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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crack - Reply to #600

:))

<< Comment #604 @ 10:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Why on earth have they reduced duels to 10 minutes? I want answers and I want them now. I'll be in my office..

<< Comment #605 @ 10:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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UwU

[17:26] <@Ravager> LOL So it turns out that all the internet problems last night at #QuakeCon were traced down to 2 computers. DDOS hacks FTL. Punkasses.

<< Comment #606 @ 10:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

so... esports.pl was wrong and tox1c/GaRpY and av3k/pyro weren't played.

<< Comment #632 @ 10:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #606

they're saying that their source was fnatic.com... blame them! :P

<< Comment #607 @ 10:34 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil

11:33am EST...av3k jerking off on ztn!! wheat not understanding FUN when you're up...and that clearly wasn't a comeback...just a comical LETUP by av3k.

Edited by evilbollweevil at 10:38 CDT, 14 August 2009

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xzan

wtf avek is doing ? ; p

<< Comment #609 @ 10:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Kaloos

Wow av3k plays really bad atm...

<< Comment #610 @ 10:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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hkrep - Reply to #609

Yes he was just fucking around like his mouse didn't work. Annoying to watch and kinda unprofessional, just the way we know Av3k!

<< Comment #622 @ 10:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #610

we know he likes cooler style and cooler was doing these things. Especially in the ESWC that won CZM in the final, was chasing his oponents with mg and was messing around constantly in the group stages. He almost lost the spot for the quarter finals.

<< Comment #614 @ 10:42 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #609

from what i remember, in every tournament he's kinda warming up his mouse in first matches. stupid polish noob can't set it up properly from the start :/

<< Comment #616 @ 10:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #614

polish hardware

<< Comment #618 @ 10:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Kaloos - Reply to #614

ah never noticed that before.
It seemed like he had too much accel :/

<< Comment #905 @ 02:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #614

How do you warm a mouse up? :) It's not like warming an engine up or the tires before the race ^^

<< Comment #612 @ 10:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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azmo

Give fixtures! :)

<< Comment #611 @ 10:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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evilbollweevil

av3k is fine...he's good at making it look like he's playing bad...guy's NOT gonna lose in a million years to pyro.

<< Comment #620 @ 10:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #611

i think he just wanted to brag how much better he really is and screwed out because of that :p

<< Comment #613 @ 10:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

tosspot and djwheat, the dynamic duo :P

<< Comment #615 @ 10:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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azmo

Hmmm, what happened to my post demanding someone asks nicely to have some fixtures?

<< Comment #617 @ 10:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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azmo

Oh, I see, it was hiding behind some lame excuses.

<< Comment #621 @ 10:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #617

excuse them, they're just spaying c*m everywhere cuz the cat5 cable is plugged in !

<< Comment #625 @ 10:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk

Does anyone know if there's a low quality stream available? If so, please link for great justice (and [+]).

<< Comment #627 @ 10:52 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #625

http://www.quadv.com/quakeconlive

you can choose the bitrate in lower right corner

<< Comment #638 @ 11:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #627

I'm not getting anything from quadv...

<< Comment #776 @ 16:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #627

I'm getting the stream now - but I still don't see this option to change the bitrate...

At the bottom right I just see an aspect ratio button, a fullscreen button and a volume slider...

<< Comment #631 @ 10:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #625

http://www.djwheat.tv/live/ low quality enough?

<< Comment #641 @ 11:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #631

Is that as low as it gets? :/

<< Comment #652 @ 11:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #631

Looks the same as quadv to me.

<< Comment #634 @ 11:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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brumu

wow tox1c won vs garpy!!!! btw esreality is soo slow,,

<< Comment #643 @ 11:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #634

dignitas = way2waste$

<< Comment #626 @ 10:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Mr_Chaos

Weren't there an audio only stream ?, my internet connection from south africa sucks

<< Comment #628 @ 10:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #626

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1734697#pid1734697

<< Comment #635 @ 11:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Mr_Chaos - Reply to #628

Thx, unfortunatly offline :/

<< Comment #633 @ 11:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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doYdY

stream is on djwheat.tv. nice quality, no buffering yet. chance vs kilsen next, apparantly.

Edited by doYdY at 11:03 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #636 @ 11:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #633

Thanks, it's working good.

<< Comment #637 @ 11:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #633

GOOOOOOOOOOOOD quality! <3

<< Comment #646 @ 11:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-92-37-9-117.dynamic.amis.net)

Okey so the duels are being broadcasted @ djwheat ,..but what about CTF games? Is anyone covering that?

Am i asking for too much :P ?

<< Comment #648 @ 11:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #646

I'm updating results. But it's not on streaming yet!

<< Comment #639 @ 11:13 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs

what is this shit, "too many games going on to cover them all" and then they have time to talk utter bullshit for 30 mins

<< Comment #640 @ 11:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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doYdY

chance vs kilsen NOW
chance vs kilsen NOW
chance vs kilsen NOW
chance vs kilsen NOW
chance vs kilsen NOW

djwheat.tv

<< Comment #644 @ 11:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo

killsen owned that map

<< Comment #645 @ 11:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

The "spec HUD" is nice when viewing an embedded flash video, but it's ghastly-big in fullscreen.

<< Comment #659 @ 12:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #645

i like it. it means i can sit waaay back on my bed and watch my computer like a tv xD

<< Comment #647 @ 11:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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[mash]

FACK

e: phew.

Edited by [mash] at 11:50 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #649 @ 11:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #647

haha

<< Comment #650 @ 11:48 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

k1lssen is playing really well

<< Comment #655 @ 11:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #650

his ztn game was way off :(

<< Comment #656 @ 11:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (193.188.105.25)

Ya he played like a beast on ca2

<< Comment #651 @ 11:52 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tifu

lol@killsen winnig t9&ca2

<< Comment #664 @ 12:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #651

yeah, that's gonna give him a real good boost in confidence in the process.

<< Comment #653 @ 11:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks

I get the feeling wheat actually took the criticism to heart and talks more about the meta game instead of forced excitement.

good job so far wheat.

<< Comment #654 @ 11:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek

nice one walter

<< Comment #660 @ 12:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

stream adress for VLC
http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/ukesa/live/stream3

<< Comment #678 @ 12:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #660

How do you load a stream in VLC? I tried "open network stream", but nothing happens when I load the url you gave.

<< Comment #685 @ 12:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #678

well it should work ; maybe a firewall or proxy problem ?

<< Comment #698 @ 13:09 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #685

Rofl, here's the problem:

"No suitable decoder module:
VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."

DENIED :/

<< Comment #704 @ 13:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #698

weird, it works here, vlc 1.0.0

<< Comment #661 @ 12:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Xsi

fkn buffering shit, why this stream is buffering when they are playing, and running smooth when they are talking? :/

<< Comment #663 @ 12:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #661

viewers disconnect when one match is over

<< Comment #671 @ 12:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #663

That would imply that the stream is not, in fact, the lord of the universe. However, since we've been assured that it is, you must be mistaken.

<< Comment #684 @ 12:46 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #671

I stand corrected.

<< Comment #686 @ 12:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT - Reply to #671

I'm going throw it out there that his Polish flag might suggest he doesnt have a connection capable of handling the stream.

<< Comment #688 @ 12:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #686

That doesn't explain why he gets less buffering when the games aren't on - I'm having the same problem actually.

<< Comment #692 @ 13:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT - Reply to #688

Its variable bitrate, so when there is action you are sent more data hit CTRL + i and you'll see your Bandwidth consumption.

Also just press pause on the player and it will create your own buffer

<< Comment #697 @ 13:07 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #692

Thanks - that does help a bit. It won't let me create a buffer longer than a few seconds though. I don't suppose there's any way to scale down the bandwidth on my side?

(I appreciate the replies regardless.)

<< Comment #662 @ 12:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

Any photos somwhere?

<< Comment #665 @ 12:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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senzor

Why there are no results at www.quakelive.com under players' profiles? Do they play with other nicknames? Well I fkin thought this would be great feature of QL the ability to follow results a check stats right on their web, I guess I was wrong about that one.

+Can you provide audio only stream PLS? I believe there are other people who have stupid villageconnection.

Yeah and Americans are confused people :-)

<< Comment #667 @ 12:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #665

they are using an intranet version of QL for the tournament to get LAN pings

<< Comment #691 @ 12:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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earthworm - Reply to #665

someone said it's like a private version of quakelive that's running. like they took a few internet servers and set them up in the building but didn't connect them to the world wide ql database.

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rupertt - Reply to #665

probably because its played on closed intranet, and deliberatley not been updated by id... my guess.

<< Comment #693 @ 13:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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senzor - Reply to #672

Hm that's smart....not, when I imagine the guys who even can't properly fill the results into the brackets without making a mistake or are lazy to do so whatever, I just don't get why they did this intranet only, to have more work while trying to get the results? I may sound like a whiny bi*ch but this Quakecon show seems so much behind ESWC that it's not even funny. I believe there are so many ppl ready to offer great coverage and precise results but they just can't since the chain fails right at the beginning.

<< Comment #705 @ 13:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #693

ya, exactly.
they been doing this for 3-4 years now, it's like they really dont care. Tho I must confess this is the best coverage of quakecon in 4 years. Still I agree thing are way too sloppy :(

<< Comment #666 @ 12:32 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician

great move by rapha vs carnage on t4

5 steps ahead!

<< Comment #669 @ 12:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #666

yeah camping t4 teleport with sg is quite a new trick

<< Comment #673 @ 12:36 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #669

who cares, like there is anything in a 10 year old game that hasn't been done before

It was executed with style and totally broke carnage's comeback, which is why it was a great move

<< Comment #676 @ 12:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #673

yeye, just joking :D

<< Comment #677 @ 12:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vkl - Reply to #666

nothin to hype, typical t4 playstyle standing tele exist and waiting....think carnage played t4 well

<< Comment #668 @ 12:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze

vo0 1 : 2 walter

<< Comment #670 @ 12:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #668

Seriously? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU-

CPM rematch plx.

<< Comment #682 @ 12:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #668

I'M TIFU AND I APPROVE THIS

<< Comment #714 @ 13:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #682

I'M NOT TIFU AND I SAY PLAY MORE PROMODE.

Also GO WALTER,

<< Comment #679 @ 12:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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MarzenGold

would love an africa, friendly stream; irc scorebots \:D/

<< Comment #680 @ 12:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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_agu

Vo0 1-2 walter

OMG HAX!!

<< Comment #695 @ 13:04 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (66.21.110.142) - Reply to #680

Vo0 doesn't even play QL. Like it's a surprise? Probably doesn't even know some of the new duel maps.

<< Comment #700 @ 13:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #695

He picked ca2 and k1llsen picked tourney9 yesterday, I had never even seen those maps :(

<< Comment #703 @ 13:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #700

I bet you won dm13? =)

<< Comment #708 @ 13:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #703

No, I won ztn

<< Comment #712 @ 13:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #700

play hub against him with cpma, and post demo k thx

<< Comment #726 @ 14:15 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (66.21.110.142) - Reply to #712

Yes, I think this is a good idea.

Would like to see some CPMA games of Walter on Hub versus Spart1e, tbh.

<< Comment #733 @ 14:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bubble_ru - Reply to #700

Next time, stay at home.

<< Comment #791 @ 17:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #733

at least you always take that advice.

<< Comment #833 @ 19:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bubble_ru - Reply to #791

Stay at home dude.

<< Comment #727 @ 14:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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_agu - Reply to #695

surprised he actually PLAYED the tournament and even he has a cheatting fame, so... :) thats really unexpected

<< Comment #766 @ 16:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #695

walter doesnt shows, hes a cheater. walter goes and wins vs Vo0, its because of maps. haha

<< Comment #842 @ 19:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mic - Reply to #766

u tell truth, haha

<< Comment #681 @ 12:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16

awesome casting at the minute, lets hope it continues into the night! please dont fuck up now!

<< Comment #683 @ 12:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

tourney seem to be running good atm, just wish they could update the score/map results on the quakecon page.

I want scores :(

<< Comment #687 @ 12:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze

cypher vs walter in the grand final

<< Comment #706 @ 13:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #687

Don't be unrealistic.
It's going to be Makaveli v Thresh.

<< Comment #690 @ 12:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (hd5b90604.selukra.dyn.perspektivbredband.net)

exec visibility.cfg

<< Comment #694 @ 13:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

QuadV, when will the videos be available as VOD?

<< Comment #696 @ 13:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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fooKi

great casting

<< Comment #719 @ 13:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #696

foooooooooooKi \o/

you should have been there :<

<< Comment #720 @ 13:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #696

Why aren't you there?!£$%# T_T

<< Comment #701 @ 13:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koekie

nvm

Edited by koekie at 13:26 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #702 @ 13:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #701

they dont get hits on their site if you use the vlc stream i suppose. the problem with using flash players to view the stream is that i cant have it on fullscreen on my second monitor and irc on the other one without the flash videoplayer going into a smaller window when trying to type on irc, it disturbs the nerdflow

Edited by frs at 13:27 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Six16 - Reply to #702

arh i totally hate when that happends!

I tried using VLC instead of website, but it buffers alot more so back to website for me :(

<< Comment #707 @ 13:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

zomg they got carmack !

<< Comment #709 @ 13:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #707

prepare for 3 hours of bullshit

<< Comment #716 @ 13:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #709

nope, just 5 minutes of nothing

<< Comment #723 @ 13:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #709

actually most things he says are pretty intresting

However he does tend to throw out hardcore programming terms to absolutely anyone, "oh noes doing quake in id tech 5 is going to drop it down to 60hz due to smp latency" which is quite amusing. Slasher did a good job of nodding his head in agreement there :]

<< Comment #710 @ 13:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

wow carmack + wheat, and his loving the shoutcast! :d

<< Comment #711 @ 13:36 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-92-37-9-117.dynamic.amis.net)

Looks like things are getting back on track folks :)

Coverage improved (still no scores tho,but the shoutcasting team is doing a grand job)

I can't lie am really starting to enjoy this :D

<< Comment #717 @ 13:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #711

dont jinx it :D

<< Comment #713 @ 13:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koOma

great stream / casting atm \o/

<< Comment #715 @ 13:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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frank_garrett

john carmack in the hot seat. the dude's awesome

<< Comment #722 @ 13:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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raide - Reply to #715

I agree. His responses were well thought-out and thorough. He seems to be very practical in balancing the single player and competitive aspects of the Quake series.

<< Comment #729 @ 14:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koOma - Reply to #722

I heard he eats babies

<< Comment #734 @ 14:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #729

hva ?

<< Comment #936 @ 05:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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koOma - Reply to #734

hæh?-,

<< Comment #1108 @ 11:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #936

det ska ru bærre vetta !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP3qwWYqT7g&am...mp;index=1

<< Comment #732 @ 14:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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TelMarine - Reply to #715

what'd he say? i missed it.

<< Comment #741 @ 15:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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zoinks - Reply to #732

Said he wants his car back from Thresh.

<< Comment #724 @ 14:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

and where is fatality ?

<< Comment #728 @ 14:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

what's the event with the loud crowd in the background of the shoutcast ?

<< Comment #730 @ 14:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xzan - Reply to #728

probably wheat f12 button :P

<< Comment #747 @ 15:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #728

people trying the quakecon nobra babes

<< Comment #735 @ 14:38 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Heartlesss

Vo0 vs walter lol. epic

<< Comment #739 @ 15:02 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (66.21.110.142)

Spartie 2 -

Fox 0

<< Comment #744 @ 15:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #739

:-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

<< Comment #736 @ 14:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

It would really be nice with some country flags to go with the results

<< Comment #737 @ 14:53 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #736

And map score as well ;)

<< Comment #750 @ 15:20 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #737

hear hear !

<< Comment #738 @ 15:00 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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d00med

what is this web player that quadv/djwheat websites are using? for some reason the bar just jumps back and forth and I get no video. sound is fine though...

<< Comment #743 @ 15:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #738

F5 it !

<< Comment #740 @ 15:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ArNoz

av3k vs fazz was a great match !

<< Comment #745 @ 15:10 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #740

both were doing a little bit too many mistakes on the last map, imo
on ztn fazz should have try the superslow game, jibo (c)

<< Comment #748 @ 15:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #745

hard to do that when u have 2 frag lead and only 2/3 of the time. and its even harder on that map. its like trying to waitout a hub game for 10min. close to impossible.

<< Comment #755 @ 15:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #748

you are right, but playing aggressive against av3k did not work, so...

<< Comment #746 @ 15:11 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #740

doesn't matter as the italian will tear him a new asshole.

<< Comment #749 @ 15:20 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #746

he's down 1:0 in maps vs tox1c the POLE

<< Comment #752 @ 15:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #749

this is turning gay :(

hopefully the one with the biggest SHAFT will win.

:S

<< Comment #754 @ 15:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #752

seems like he won 2:1

<< Comment #756 @ 15:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #749

which map did he lost? dm6?

<< Comment #757 @ 15:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #756

impossible for me to answer, they didnt cast it, info only has final result. :))

Edited by Lethe at 15:28 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #759 @ 15:45 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #756

I would expect Scarlett's father to spell his own name, and his daughters name correctly. At the very least.

<< Comment #760 @ 15:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #759

did not have this chance
every time she is interrupting me in a unreal manner

<< Comment #780 @ 16:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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ArNoz - Reply to #756

he won ztn and t9, lost t4

<< Comment #788 @ 17:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #780

10x

<< Comment #792 @ 17:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #746

like I said

<< Comment #742 @ 15:09 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

oooo spartie wins over fox. holy shit.

<< Comment #751 @ 15:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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_agu

avek: i`d like to play against him.... seriously(with a big damn smile on his face) hahahahahaha
(talking about his mate, tox1c)

Edited by _agu at 15:22 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #753 @ 15:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

I see a lot of Liams walking there on the quakecon corridors :o

<< Comment #758 @ 15:35 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

Anyone have a link to JC's keynote? And also maybe know the time when he was talking about Subscription for QL?
Quake Live Premium Subscription Planned
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59998

<< Comment #768 @ 16:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo - Reply to #758

the ql team already talked about that, it's gonna be the ability to create private servers and they said it will probably cost a few bucks a month

<< Comment #773 @ 16:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #768

ye i know, was actually interested what he said about in-game ads.
and what actually will they offer that would interest a casual player..coz most of the stuff would be only interesting to "real" quakers.

<< Comment #775 @ 16:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #773

he said that the in-game ads will not be able to carry the whole thing as they planned, they will be charging a small amount of $ for the private servers

<< Comment #779 @ 16:54 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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psionyx - Reply to #758

full keynote is up at http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2919
answers a question on quake live just after the 102 minute mark

Edited by psionyx at 16:58 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #763 @ 15:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

nice 1st cap by linkin :-D

<< Comment #764 @ 15:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

link1n at work :D

<< Comment #765 @ 16:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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iLbk3r

go fnat<BUFFERING STREAM>ic & fo<BUFFERING STREAM>x!

<< Comment #767 @ 16:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Are some more duels coming up after ctf?

<< Comment #771 @ 16:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #767

yes

<< Comment #769 @ 16:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

what a shitty boring map

<< Comment #784 @ 16:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #769

I'm c38 and I approve that map... as a matter of fact I think it is awesome !!

<< Comment #770 @ 16:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun

DaHanG vs Rapha soon... (they said)

<< Comment #782 @ 16:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #770

stermy vs av3k first

<< Comment #929 @ 04:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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koekie - Reply to #782

And before that destrukt vs av3k?
Glad I went to bed..

<< Comment #772 @ 16:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16

awesome ctf games! go fnatic!

<< Comment #774 @ 16:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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sk!a

Everything is running smoothly now and the shoutcast team is doing a great job! THIS ROX!!!!!!!

<< Comment #778 @ 16:54 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #774

indeed

<< Comment #781 @ 16:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #774

indeed

<< Comment #799 @ 17:55 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #774

less offtopic in the MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING GAME, and would be great

<< Comment #886 @ 22:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #799

"oh and nice double-air-rockets there, 1 minute ago"

<< Comment #913 @ 03:36 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #799

yeah, that annoyed me as well.

<< Comment #783 @ 16:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Raist

Very good casting tonight, wasnt here yesterday but I heard it was failure.

Glad to see they did a 180 on all the problems.

<< Comment #785 @ 17:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio '

Random offtopic Funny...

Edited by Jamerio at 17:13 CDT, 14 August 2009

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #785

in the end he went to quakecon

<< Comment #786 @ 17:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

-as an old player, what do you think of 10 minutes matches
-I am getting older which means the shorter the better, I am going to bed at nine..just kidding
$

<< Comment #787 @ 17:18 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz

stermys mouse/keyboard layout is pretty retarded

<< Comment #790 @ 17:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #787

Italian style

<< Comment #793 @ 17:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #787

same idea as the russians, elbow on table for maximum mouse stability, aiming with both lower arm and wrist.

It's just cooller style without the keyboard on the lap.

<< Comment #794 @ 17:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #787

not as retarded as cooller, rapha and jibo's

<< Comment #789 @ 17:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 15:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #796 @ 17:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #789

even NA players can do that.

<< Comment #797 @ 17:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #796

you forgot the " 't "

<< Comment #807 @ 18:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #797

I think you forgot rapha's p0wnage if cypher last year. and also chance's rape of cooller ewsc grand final 2008.

ye, that's right

<< Comment #795 @ 17:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16

Stermy vs Cypher grand final me thinks!

<< Comment #798 @ 17:52 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #795

lol, that impossible

edit: no, wait. how does double elimination work lol

Edited by carbon38 at 17:54 CDT, 14 August 2009

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Six16 - Reply to #798

stermy vs cypher in semi's, cypher/stermy goes into LB and wins to play stermy/cypher in grand final, possibly i dunno im not 100% sure :-)

<< Comment #808 @ 18:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #800

ooooh k :)

<< Comment #801 @ 18:12 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust363.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

Av3k is better than Stermy. Don't care what anyone says.

<< Comment #804 @ 18:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #801

Except when he loses to Stermy.

<< Comment #1611 @ 18:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #804

lol

<< Comment #863 @ 20:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (91.200.160.67) - Reply to #801

why was fox overrated. had he won some top tournaments ever?

<< Comment #979 @ 07:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #801

Except when he loses in the last two important times they met.

NEWSFLASH.

Stermy is better.
But your love for Avek is greater.

By definition that makes you a fanboy.

<< Comment #1056 @ 09:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #979

one important

also shit maps

i'm for new maps, but fuck, that stuff is bad. what were they thinking?

avek probably wasn't winning anyway, been playing pretty awful.

<< Comment #802 @ 18:17 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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fragmaster_

i cant register on the quadv website. i get the confirmation link but when i click on it it tells me the site is not available or so

<< Comment #806 @ 18:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #802

http://www.djwheat.tv/

<< Comment #814 @ 18:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #806

yeah i know. just pointing it out ;p

thanks anyway.

<< Comment #803 @ 18:19 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

gg fox

<< Comment #809 @ 18:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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fur*q

Omg Av3k is from Russia, huh wheat?

<< Comment #819 @ 18:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #809

well, once he even said 'av3k from belarus' (and then usa versus russia)

it's nothing new tho :-) i remember that q2 anniversary tournament with 'purri, i think he is from poland but i am not sure... he could be finnish' :D

Edited by vicek at 18:49 CDT, 14 August 2009

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pface - Reply to #819

well....americans also think that finland is the capital of sweden so...don´t be so hard on the canad....i mean americans...

<< Comment #810 @ 18:34 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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wata

again this bs "this is usa vs russia" ; come on, grow up

<< Comment #839 @ 19:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #810

especially cause the guy is not from russia

<< Comment #811 @ 18:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

haha, DKT !!

<< Comment #812 @ 18:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

tbh dkt wining over avek rly isn't surprising at all

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rupertt - Reply to #812

duh !?

<< Comment #830 @ 19:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #815

?
dkt has been consistently improving, while avek was rusty for a while now.

<< Comment #841 @ 19:28 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #830

av3k's ztn is totally on, it's easy to say afterwards 'oh I saw that one coming'. Can't seem to remeber what dkt has done in q3 or ql for that matter. if there was a poll her on esr 2 days ago; who will win av3k vs dkt, there would be 99.9% votes in favour of av3k... including yours.

<< Comment #848 @ 19:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #841

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1734393#pid1734393
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1732269#pid1732269

<< Comment #986 @ 08:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #841

No.

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #812

I'm LOLing at the "bigshots" trash talking DKT in the comment section of his interview.

Nutriders... you sure did make my day. Thanks. Now pull your foot out of your mouth(s).

<< Comment #813 @ 18:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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shady8701

how do i spec this?
On the lines of GTV and q3, im sure someone has asked this in this thread before me, but it got too long to actually read through :X

<< Comment #816 @ 18:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #813

just read the news

<< Comment #817 @ 18:42 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #813

RTM !

<< Comment #827 @ 19:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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shady8701 - Reply to #813

what you fucktards seem to not understand is that, i do see how to watch the live streams...
is there any way i can spec the games as we used to do with GTV, a third world net connection isn't the greatest tool for watching live streams
X(

<< Comment #831 @ 19:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #827

what you fucktard seem to not understand is that there is no GTV..just the stream

<< Comment #1046 @ 09:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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shady8701 - Reply to #831

..

<< Comment #832 @ 19:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #827

google, troll

<< Comment #837 @ 19:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #827

RTFM !

<< Comment #818 @ 18:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

" It's nearly mega time. It sounds a bit like hammer time, but... more fun" ™ tosspot in T4

rofl, don't give up the dayjob.

<< Comment #887 @ 22:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #818

He's fucking horrible indeed.

<< Comment #1109 @ 11:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #818

that's an awesome quote !!

<< Comment #820 @ 18:44 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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fragmaster_

having never played ql this might be a stupid question:

are those item timers standard not only when you're speccing, also when you're playing? that would be kinda lame imho.

<< Comment #821 @ 18:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #820

of course not
it's just speccing feature (hud), similar thing was used during q4 tournaments :)

<< Comment #845 @ 19:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Rondrian - Reply to #820

no, it's only in the spectator/shoutcaster mode.

<< Comment #822 @ 18:51 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

Time for me to eat my words about dkt. Great games!!

<< Comment #823 @ 18:56 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bluder

prediction:
Rapha will get his ass handed to him by the first decent Euro (yes i think he's overrated)

<< Comment #844 @ 19:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #823

'zat you spartie?

<< Comment #847 @ 19:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #823

lemme guess... there's ~ 1 "decent euro", and that's if Rapha gets 2nd place.
amirite?

<< Comment #858 @ 20:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #847

em no, rapha wont even get top3 maybe 4th place [/prediction]

<< Comment #867 @ 21:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #858

Unfortunately for you, he's now guaranteed top 3...

<< Comment #964 @ 06:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #867

:'(((

<< Comment #984 @ 08:06 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #867

Err... how is that? If he now loses his next 2 games, he will be 4th, right?

<< Comment #877 @ 21:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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koji - Reply to #858

your prediction sux

<< Comment #965 @ 06:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #877

:'(((

<< Comment #879 @ 21:43 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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erok - Reply to #858

americans thus far have handed euros ass to them, eat your words

<< Comment #966 @ 06:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #879

:'(((

<< Comment #908 @ 02:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Raist - Reply to #858

Your prediction sucks.

<< Comment #967 @ 06:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #908

:'(((

<< Comment #865 @ 21:03 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #823

LOL DECENT EURO LOL SPARTIE

<< Comment #968 @ 06:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #865

:'(((

<< Comment #901 @ 01:50 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #823

Another nutrider bites the dust.

Try again please.

<< Comment #924 @ 04:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #823

idiot

<< Comment #824 @ 18:57 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

rly nice game on t7 from rapha vs dahang. rly strong play by both

<< Comment #828 @ 19:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #824

actually the best game i saw so far

<< Comment #902 @ 01:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #824

Yup. But I had to bail right in the middle of OT to go see D9. Grrrr

Still don't know if it went to three maps, but will be checking shortly.

<< Comment #825 @ 19:01 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz

i wanted dahang to win for science

religion prevails

<< Comment #826 @ 19:05 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #825

nevermind he pulls through. for science.

<< Comment #850 @ 19:58 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #826

but then lost. for religion

<< Comment #829 @ 19:06 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo

dahang had some crazy rails

<< Comment #838 @ 19:22 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #829

yet he missed all important rails on dm6, bad luck for him

<< Comment #890 @ 22:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #838

There's not luck involved when missing a rail.

<< Comment #983 @ 07:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #890

:-|

<< Comment #835 @ 19:20 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

gg Rapha and dahang :)

<< Comment #836 @ 19:21 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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EmSixTeen

DaHanG vs. rapha was great. wp/gg

<< Comment #840 @ 19:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Cypher v Stermy coming up. :) !

The Sem-EYE final. As opposed to the sem -EE final.

<< Comment #843 @ 19:29 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

cypher vs stermy bo5?

<< Comment #846 @ 19:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #843

thought that was only the grand final.

<< Comment #849 @ 19:40 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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f0cus

It really just isn't the same without GTV spam.

...I can't believe I actually miss it.

<< Comment #851 @ 20:07 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #849

lol,ye i agree

<< Comment #859 @ 20:34 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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zanza - Reply to #849

respect the paco ! ;)

<< Comment #872 @ 21:15 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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phz - Reply to #849

rofl maybe

<< Comment #891 @ 22:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #849

..and then you turn it off 5 minutes into it

<< Comment #909 @ 03:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #849

It turned in irc spam, kinda works. Not the same, but it'll do for now

<< Comment #852 @ 20:09 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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langley

Would be nice if Fatal1ty made a comeback to quake once again, douchebag and all aside!

<< Comment #853 @ 20:24 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Gravgon

The website says k1lsen beat griffin in the LB #4 yet it's griffin who advances to round #5 ?

Can someone explain or maybe it's just a typo

<< Comment #857 @ 20:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #853

typo

<< Comment #854 @ 20:27 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Has fatality ever played cypher? If not, what do you reckon his chances of beating cypher are? And as far as fatality's comment about playing slower, more defensively and making the player come to him, I wonder if he could still play that style considering the matches are now only 10 minutes and played faster?

<< Comment #861 @ 20:41 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #854

last i played fat was in CA and we had close back and forth rounds

i get raped by any top na player

so he'd get raped by cypher

This has more to do with the fact that he isn't trying to learn the game, and that he was playing in shitty conditions while moving to vegas. Regardless, he'd have to put in a lot of work to catch up to the skill of cypher right now, and if cypher actually practiced, he would never be able to touch him.

<< Comment #919 @ 04:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #861

what has CA got to do with it matey?

even if you raped fat @ ca, he would destroy you at duel

<< Comment #942 @ 05:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #919

no, not if he played like that. :)

<< Comment #855 @ 20:30 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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iLbk3r

LB 5
griffin vs dkt

LB 4
k1llsen 2-0 griffin

wtf?

<< Comment #856 @ 20:31 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #855

fixed, thx

<< Comment #860 @ 20:39 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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RMS

did cypher surprise you guys or not?

Edited by RMS at 20:39 CDT, 14 August 2009

<< Comment #866 @ 21:07 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tbone - Reply to #860

?

No.

<< Comment #862 @ 20:49 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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noblessus

So when is this Rapha vs Spart1e starting?

<< Comment #864 @ 20:50 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #862

Already live game

<< Comment #871 @ 21:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (host-cotesma-174-19.smandes.com.ar)

lol @ fox loosing vs dahang

<< Comment #876 @ 21:26 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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revocelot - Reply to #871

He doesn't seem to play well when he faces resistance.

<< Comment #884 @ 21:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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roffo - Reply to #871

losing

<< Comment #868 @ 21:08 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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guts

what was the map scores for fox vs dahang?

<< Comment #869 @ 21:13 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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lettu

rapha was insane on dm6 vs spartie :o)

<< Comment #870 @ 21:14 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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tbone

Goooooo dkt!

<< Comment #873 @ 21:24 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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xou

OMG DAY 2 IS OVER

GOOD NIGHT - --

: ]]]]]]]

<< Comment #910 @ 03:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #873

get some sleep you poor man

<< Comment #874 @ 21:24 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Rapha v Cypher final then.

Should be great matches.

I predict Rapha to win.

Or Cypher. :D

<< Comment #875 @ 21:25 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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phz

Nice showing by the Americans to have 3 in final 6.

Great tourney so far.

<< Comment #878 @ 21:37 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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Loop?

after i have seen a lot of matches, i feel like 10 minutes is really not enough. the matches seem to rush by like nothing...

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FarQ - Reply to #878

I agree. They've done it so that the matches are a better spectator sport, more exciting and lots of frags. In that respect, it's a good adrenaline buzz to watch. But what's missing for me is gradual build up in the game, the sneaking around, the time to drop silently from the YA jumpad in dm6, stuff like that. There's no sense of suspense anymore, just frantic action. Like a spaghetti western with no story, just the shooting. Also, an extra 5 minutes could have made a huge difference for a player to turn a game around to his advantage if he was a few frags down. Having said all that, it's a minor complaint for me, I'm still enjoying watching the matches as they are.

Edited by FarQ at 21:55 CDT, 14 August 2009

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nohm - Reply to #882

I'm really enjoying watching the matches as they are too. I personally prefer the 10 minute matches to 15 minutes as I have a terrible attention span. I definitely think the way games play out has changed, but I don't think it's necessarily worse.

The contention that there ISN'T enough time for comebacks, and perhaps players get screwed when an extra 5 minutes would allow them to turn it around - I think that could be solved by making bo5 matches the standard all the way through the tournament. You get beaten 3 maps to 0? I think the factor of less time for a comeback is eliminated by the increase of maps played, and you really can't blame the map duration.

Plus, a Bo5 with 10 minute map durations going all the way only takes as long as a Bo3 with 15 minute map durations (practically). So you get to see more variety in the same amount of time.

My only gripe with the shorter map durations is you'll often see people give up with 3 minutes remaining, so sometimes you only see about 7 meaningful minutes of a map played :(. I wish there was some incentive within the tournament setup to prevent that.

Edited by nohm at 23:18 CDT, 14 August 2009

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OmeN_ - Reply to #882

As djWHEAT pointed out, sneaky, full tactical games are amusing for hardcore fans BUT fast paced "shoot and gibs" games seem to be more atractive in the eye of the casual spectator.

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Loop? - Reply to #897

this might be true but i don't think any casual player will watch this just for the action and the entertainment that comes with it. i bet on quadv's stream are 99,99999999% of people that have a profound understanding of quake and a real interest in watching these matches. even if they made [insert random game] more spectatorfriendly i wouldn't watch this because i don't have a clue and i don't care. but besides that, there are probably people that have a clue and they like the 10min. rule. Anyway, watching these matches really feels diferent (worse to me). I think the overall gameplay change roots in the shorter maptime. but well, i get used to it ;)

<< Comment #1098 @ 11:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #897

Say what you like, but the bottom line is always the sport, then the spectating factor. And from a sporting perspective, 10 minute TL produces more random matches because coming back is made extremely difficult.

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ia - Reply to #1098

Comebacks aren't any harder. Just don't lose for 7 minutes, only 5 minutes of losing is acceptable now.

By what evidence have results been more random? No more random than a Q3 tourney after a 6 month gap.

Edited by ia_ at 12:25 CDT, 15 August 2009

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w0nk0 - Reply to #1098

o pls. i could give u a perfect example from cricket but u wouldnt understand it. ur just resisting change cos u want status quo.

its a different ball game thats all. yes there are less of those moments where things can go either way, and that does change the gameplay. but its not necessarily a bad thing. i think for the most part the better players still won out in the end.

<< Comment #1465 @ 06:30 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1443

excepting cricket is a ball game, unlike quake which requires balls

<< Comment #1521 @ 10:04 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #1443

I guess you have me all figured out!

<< Comment #883 @ 21:59 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK

any vods laying around of stermy vs cypher or any of the other games?

<< Comment #881 @ 21:47 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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erok

North american quake scene is so weak...

<< Comment #892 @ 22:33 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #881

Jerking off into your flag much?

<< Comment #903 @ 01:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #892

Cut the bullshit apoxic.

<< Comment #952 @ 05:40 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #903

Fap fap fap.

<< Comment #888 @ 22:23 CDT, 14 August 2009 >>

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_agu

next quakecon:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6goTT9L3kJo/SbBEQTC...c25411.jpg

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V1R7U4L - Reply to #888

not found

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #1399

copy+paste

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_agu - Reply to #888

ah that sux! :( already gone

<< Comment #894 @ 00:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Snip

was at work today, didn't get to watch a single game, didn't get to watch a single game yesterday due to the usual quakecon technical bullshit. every time I managed to get to my computer for some quality speccing the stream was down or they were broadcasting empty seats.

as far as I'm concerned this was a huge fucking failure, I was so excited and I haven't been able to watch shit

Edited by Snip at 00:26 CDT, 15 August 2009

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linged - Reply to #894

The stream quality, match frequency, quick switching between matches going on at the same time and the commentary made it quite enjoyable to watch for those of us who didn't have to work.

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frs - Reply to #894

how do you like them apples

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Snip - Reply to #896

about the same as I like road apples

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Shaddap

I always wonder how big a factor jet-lag has in tournaments like this. I've never travelled that far so I wouldn't know, but I imagine it's like going to bed at 24:00 when it's pitch black, and then wake up at 03:00 in bright daylight. Am I completely wrong here? Do the players arrive several days in advance to adjust or how does it work?

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terrorhead - Reply to #904

Maybe. Jet lag was Thresh' excuse when his clan got owned in Europe in a 4on4 qw tourney.

EDIT: Actually it was NQ/QW.

Edited by terrorhead at 02:42 CDT, 15 August 2009

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #904

some are coming 1-2 weeks before tournament, but for the most its too expensive.

it's always the same, europeans have jetlag in usa, americans in europe, both then in asia...

yesterday between 24 and 3 CET the stronger europeans lost to "middle" americans, I can only explain this by jetlag. but this is life, who cares.

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GUArd - Reply to #907

killsen < griffin
fox < dahang

:(((

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vkl - Reply to #912

ye how could this happen..... :(

<< Comment #938 @ 05:05 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #914

overrated players are overrated.

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Linchpin - Reply to #912

what happen fox :(

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terrorhead - Reply to #920

overrated players are overrated.

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becks - Reply to #937

Location: Australia

<< Comment #943 @ 05:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #939

Country: Nazi land.

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becks - Reply to #943

ah, once again the sign of someone running out of wit, humour and arguments at the same time.

gg jamerio.

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terrorhead - Reply to #946

But seriously dude, fox IS overrated can't we all agree with that?

Edited by terrorhead at 05:15 CDT, 15 August 2009

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becks - Reply to #947

competition wise yes. But from talent for quake he really is that good. His deficit are his nerves imo. Which of course is also necessary to be a sucessful player.

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funnyb - Reply to #947

not really no, he's an amazing player, i don't see what the problem is.

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Gladius - Reply to #949

yes, he just chokes every time push comes to shove

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stripy ' - Reply to #972

ye, but if that happens its usually at top4. but this qcon i haven't seen him being in top form in any game.

ppl are also quick to say that fox chocks every time. but hes also the most consistent player out there, based on tourney results.

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Lethe - Reply to #973

he's consistent!

he consistently loses at the last games of the tournament :))))

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stripy ' - Reply to #1041

u say potato... ^^
that's lots of top4 placings though:)

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Lethe - Reply to #1169

yeah, he's always been close to the top.

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Lethe - Reply to #943

.

Edited by Lethe at 09:12 CDT, 15 August 2009

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amt - Reply to #943

godwin'ed

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f0cus - Reply to #912

hahahah

You think that's jet lag?
Oh yeah, you were the one that wanted to duel griffin, as you'd never heard of him.
I remember saying I'd like to see that.

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GreenBastard - Reply to #907

these players young, they are used to sleeping at fucked up hours at that age, a bit of lack of sleep wont hurt them at all it would be a shit excuse for losing

the Americans were just better

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terrorhead - Reply to #917

yep yanks have loads of talent.

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becks - Reply to #917

actually, it does hurt a lot no matter how young or old you are.
imo young people and kids often don't notice how muh lack of sleep and getting up at the wrong time affects them.

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efassd - Reply to #944

That's not the point... they could just go to sleep a bit earlier/later before the flight, more or less sync with the American time, and in two days you're perfect. It's a weak excuse, especially for people like fox who have done this a bunch of times already.

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becks - Reply to #1023

nope. two days are not enough to be 100% adapted to local time.

But i do agree that is a weak excuse because they could go to America earlier. Its more of an explanation why the Europeans seemed to play worse in the later hours.

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efassd - Reply to #1028

Admit it, you're just getting old. :)

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becks - Reply to #1030

I am.

But then again until now most of my over-sea travelling happened before I turned twenty (due to my parents paying the flights :) ) So I do have some experience in that.

And I also read an article about the current research, similar one linked below.

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becks - Reply to #1023

if you are interested in the related science I looked up an english version of an article i read recently: http://sleepeducation.blogspot.com/2009/04/re...t-lag.html

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1023

I'm not really buying that either.

There is less than 6 hours time difference.

Most of those guys are up late most nights so its even less.
I mean you show me a top quaker who's in bed by 11pm?

When you consider they're pumped from being a in a different country and all the excitment that comes from playing in a tourney like that it goes down even further.

So unless the games are played later than 8pm texas time, I don't think it would affect them too much apart from the usual tiredness that comes with travel, but its sitting down at a desk playing for 10 minutes.

If its after 8pm texas time then it could affect them, but up until then I don't see any solid excuse.

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skint - Reply to #1054

you are the master of solid excuses after all!

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w0nk0 - Reply to #907

thats cos ur idea of "middle" americans sucks balls.

<< Comment #915 @ 03:59 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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_gory

We need VODs!!!
At least I do.... long day@work, pls help :'(((

<< Comment #911 @ 03:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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darko

i like how every match is NA vs EU tomorrow :D

<< Comment #1070 @ 10:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #911

Belarus is not Europe

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darko - Reply to #1070

lol?

<< Comment #916 @ 04:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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duumed

fox :(

spartie better not fail

<< Comment #918 @ 04:14 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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skint

any galleries?

people dont seem to do them anymore =(

<< Comment #922 @ 04:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #918

perv

<< Comment #923 @ 04:32 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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kapca

Hi,

Anyone can help me out where may I watch the games, without somebody telling me what i can see already with my own eyes?

It just ruining the whole experience. I mean why change something what's worked perfectly for years? You just jump into gtv with you favorite mp3 under and enjoy the match. You may chat as a spectator, and you can see and hear everything.

Now you can't hear what's happening because some ppl telling (I'm sorry but I must say very stupid) things, like "he is picked up the red armor" (wtf! omg really?), and the quality and the config of the spectators are (in my opinion) ridiculous

I love the game since the beta in the late '90, but this new style how we must watch the tournaments, just not made for my taste:(

<< Comment #925 @ 04:36 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #923

try the mute button

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kapca - Reply to #925

a nice and usefull answ from a nice and usefull name

<< Comment #934 @ 05:02 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #923

yes we know, gtv is better.

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #923

it follows the football commentaries habit, which is targeting stupid people

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #923

id guys (carmack ?) don't want to implement gtv because somebody was sticking in their head the idea they will loose spectators on stream and thus the possibility to advertise and thus money if they implement gtv
on the other hand they could implement advertising on the gtv servers too, but they don't know this yet

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Carmac - Reply to #992

Where did you read / hear that?!

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Anonymous (c-773071d5.026-216-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) - Reply to #1103

In the LO3 interview with Marty Stratton (or was it SyncError who said it?) it was quite obvious that id was rather sceptical to GTV in its current incarnation, and maybe even any incarnation. The rationale was indeed GTV raising the bar of entry for spectators and making it more difficult to advertise.

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1103

it's pretty obvious

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GreenBastard

still looking like Rapha's gonna win like most of us predicted before the tourney, but fuck Cypher is amazing, even after syncerror said he has played significantly less QL than any other player at the tourney he just rapes with his natural skill.

Really nice tourney, good to see Europe getting raped, hopefully will shut up a lot of the eu fanboys here :)

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skint - Reply to #921

raped? the last 6 players are 3 euros and 3 americans at an american lan.

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sepht - Reply to #926

"Raped" might be a little strong. But the .eu players are definitely disappointing. Look at the Who Will Win Quakecon 09 poll. There are 10 Euros, 5 NA players. For the over 5% numbers, the top 6: 1 NA player, 5 EU players. How did the top 6 turn out? 3-3.

The following EU players were largely overrated:
av3k (19 votes, 9th place)
k1llsen (8 votes, 9th place)
fox (37 votes ,7th place)

The following NA players were underrated:
Dkt (0 votes, 5th place)
Griffin (1 vote, 7th place)
chance (1 vote, 9th place)
DaHang (7 votes, Top 4)

The EU players didn't do poorly. But the anticipation was that EU > NA by A LOT and honestly, it looked pretty equal. Dkt elimed av3k, Dahang elimed fox. That wasn't expected. The NA players really did beat the odds. They proved themselves.

Edited by sepht at 12:10 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Lethe - Reply to #1133

its true, av3k and fox were expected to place higher than the guys who eliminated them

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Thorin ' - Reply to #921

7 of the top 12 are European.

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Paladia - Reply to #921

Really nice tourney, good to see Europe getting raped, hopefully will shut up a lot of the eu fanboys here :)

Americans caught in their illusions of grandeur as usual.

How many Americans participated in the tournament? 179
How many Europeans participated in the tournament? 13
93% Americans in the start.

How many Americans were still left in the top 12? 5
How many Europeans were still left in the top 12? 7
29% Americans in the end.

Which means that only 3% of the Americans made it to the top 12 yet 54% of the Europeans, which means the EU players were 94.5% better than the US players.

All in all, the EU players did roughly 20 times better than than the US players.

If you call this "eu getting raped", I'd hate to see what you'd consider "na getting raped" would mean.

Edited by Paladia at 05:50 CDT, 15 August 2009

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GreenBastard - Reply to #954

Ooh almost every part of your post is incorrect, nice going

Americans caught in their illusions of grandeur as usual.

I'm not American

How many Americans participated in the tournament? 179

No it was 19

How many Europeans participated in the tournament? 13 93% Americans in the start.

60% Americans

How many Americans were still left in the top 12? 5
How many Europeans were still left in the top 12? 7
29% Americans in the end.

Congrats, but whats significant about this top 12 bracket?

Which means that only 3% of the Americans made it to the top 12 yet 54% of the Europeans, which means the EU players were 94.5% better than the US players.

Incorrect stats due to reasons above, but sure eu has the edge here when it comes to this all important top 12

All in all, the EU players did roughly 20 times better than than the US players.

20 times better? maybe I exaggerated with the rape comment, but 20 times better is hardly representative of how the tourney has played out, as Skint says technically it is even at the moment with 3 eu and 3 us still in.

anyways top3 are the only spots that count being where the money is so lets see how it goes today :)

Edited by GreenBastard at 06:35 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Paladia - Reply to #958

How many Americans participated in the tournament? 179

No it was 19

Are you claiming only 19 Americans participated in the QCon QL duel tournament?

GG no re.

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smari - Reply to #987

Only 32 players participated in the masters tournament.
If there were 13 Europeans (afaik all were in the master tournament) there that leaves 19 north americans.

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Paladia - Reply to #999

That's not what I asked. I said how many participated in the duel tournament. That some of the were so crappy they didn't even enter the masters is besides the point, the same would have happened if a crappy european participated.

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f0cus - Reply to #1003

oh wait. Are you trying to count the "open" tournament too or something?

I have to say, as plus-whoring goes, it's brilliant. But as an actual argument for your seemingly intended 'cause, it's shit.

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Raist - Reply to #1003

Open tournament doesnt count since it involves all the newbies that just came there for fun. and the lan was in the states so obviously there were many.

Just count the masters tourney numbers if you want real statistics.

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lolograde - Reply to #1003

Yaa, okay. What EU players are going to fly all the way to Texas to play in the open/noob tournie? That makes little sense.

13 eu / 19 na = Masters duel cup. This is what all the discussion has been about. Not open cup.

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Gravgon - Reply to #954

It's obvious that the only Europeans who made the trip to qcon are sponsored pros. Among the Americans, how many pros are there really? That's what you should be looking at...

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Paladia - Reply to #963

It's obvious that the only Europeans who made the trip to qcon are sponsored pros. Among the Americans, how many pros are there really? That's what you should be looking at...

So you are saying because NA has less good players they are better? Alright, that makes sense.

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vicek - Reply to #990

:D

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Gravgon - Reply to #990

Your argument was that a greater percentage of the europeans placed well but you took into account the big number of american casual players who attended because it's in the USA and they can go without sponsors.

The fact is USA had only a couple of sponsored pro players but most of them are now in the final stage of the competition.

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f0cus - Reply to #1024

don't bother. It's obvious he doesn't actually believe the shit he's typing. He's just fishing. Don't bite.

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Gravgon - Reply to #1026

He didn't strike me as an ESR troll at firt. I was about to tell him sarcasm wasn't a good look for him :p

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Paladia - Reply to #1024

However, EU has a lot of unsponsored players that could on a good day beat pretty much any US player. So if the situation was reversed, it is likely some of the top US players would be knocked out amongst the likes of ddk, fooki, toxjq, arrw, prozac, purri, a1r_r41d, slonken, azmo, jibo, bodzo, blanka, draven, weird, guard, smoke, calipt, noctis etc etc.

I'm not saying those are better players than the top US but if the top US had to go through brackets filled with those (and those currently at QCon), it is likely some would lose against them.

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f0cus - Reply to #1102

there are a lot of non-sponsored, gainfully employed NA players that couldn't go, too.

You're really reaching man. You can scale it around all you want, the best of the best is being proven right now.

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Paladia - Reply to #1198

Care to name a few that are on the level of noctis, jibo, bodzo, fooki etc?

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f0cus - Reply to #1214

I sure could, but you'd be as dismissive of them as you were griffin, dkt, dahang, chance, etc.

<< Comment #1025 @ 08:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #990

Yeah, I guess all those much higher skilled euros that didn't attend would have made for completely different results.

Like I said before though, for plus whoring it's brilliant.

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oreozz - Reply to #990

America's scene is as big as sweden's. Yet for some reason you morans keep comparing entire europe vs us.

Please stop.

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neb - Reply to #1052

this

<< Comment #927 @ 04:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Thorin '

dkt doin work

<< Comment #930 @ 04:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

Cypher vs Rapha should start in 5 hours, according to the guys on #quadv

<< Comment #931 @ 04:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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retire

cooller makes it :/

<< Comment #932 @ 04:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Ben Dover

ctf demos anywhere ?

<< Comment #933 @ 04:56 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Stev

Props to dahang, dkt and griffin for doing so well and showing that the NA scene isn't all limp fish. I don't think anyone expected all of them to get that far, even on home turf.

True, the brackets were seeded kind of ... regionally, but they still took down a few big names.

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neb - Reply to #933

I'd say:
dkt knocked out in order:
GaRpY
linkin
Av3k
Griffin
and barely lost to spartie.

DaHang knocked out in order:
chance
fox
stermy
and barely lost to spartie.

griffin knocked out in order:
madix
killsen

oh snap!

<< Comment #951 @ 05:32 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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reyu

Yesterday night I stayed up till like 5 o'clock in the morning, but fuck did I enjoy it.

<< Comment #953 @ 05:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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ArNoz - Reply to #951

Same here, some great matches were played yesterday :)

<< Comment #955 @ 05:50 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

is there a rapha vs spartie vod somewhere or i need to wait for the demos?

<< Comment #956 @ 06:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

omg, my connection went down yesterday before rapha - dahang match, I missed the whole thing...

ARE THERE ANY VOD, OR WILL THERE BE ANY VOD ANYTIME SOON?!?

Is there any site with full scores (maps etc)?

Edited by mefajpE^ at 06:21 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #957 @ 06:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Larvi

is clampOK the fat guy from australia who used to play Q4?

<< Comment #960 @ 06:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #957

yes, not fat anymore tho (afaik)

<< Comment #970 @ 06:57 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #960

haaa ... that explains why he strafes so much better now

<< Comment #959 @ 06:27 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr

hello

<< Comment #961 @ 06:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

Is it just me or is there not enough cock-sucking this year?

<< Comment #1010 @ 08:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #961

I feel sorry for you not getting your cock sucked this year. :/

<< Comment #962 @ 06:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vicek

GO RAPE THEM CYPHER

<< Comment #969 @ 06:56 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Kaide

missed most of the night games after fnatic vs dynamic :\

<< Comment #971 @ 07:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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sn1kzZe

something random to ask, what about the AGP tour? did it fail or what?

<< Comment #974 @ 07:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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[mash]

i hate this.
i'd love to watch the games i missed last night, but it's impossible to do.

<< Comment #975 @ 07:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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^AME-

Does somebody know if the Rage presentation today will be live-streamed somewhere?

<< Comment #976 @ 07:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead

lawl 2 russian style players in wb final.

Edited by terrorhead at 07:42 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #982 @ 07:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RMS - Reply to #976

dont know about rapha but cypher dfinetely not

<< Comment #977 @ 07:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RMS

Why was fox overrated? I mean almost everyone here predicted him top3. What was the last top-tourney that he won???

<< Comment #980 @ 07:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #977

Because there are lots of idiots in the gaming community who don't know what they are talking about :)

Edited by Jamerio at 08:13 CDT, 15 August 2009

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becks - Reply to #980

you don't say

<< Comment #996 @ 08:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #977

The truth is,I don't think Fox Fazz are very good duel players(still top 10 in the world),but TDM is another story :)

btw. Guys

Team Deathmatch Results:Lan Arena 7 (Quake 3 TDM World Championship)
1. Quad People's Organization (Sweden) - proZaC, senti, seka, tech: 5,600 euros
2. eSports United a.k.a. iCE cLIMBERS (Sweden) - gopher, toxic, belth, panicore: 2,800 euros
3. mTw-u-sk (Germany) - Zyz, willow, neok, sl1nger: 1,400 euros
4. Vikings (Denmark) - Ranger, Litzter, miso, vertex
5 - tied. Eyeballers (Sweden) - fazz, foxx, d3sp, stirre
5 - tied. forZe (Russia) - Devil, Satan, Mikes, Pow3r

QL needs TDM,remeber 2002,man what a great time that was..so much skill :)

<< Comment #1008 @ 08:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #996

ehh yes, tdm is needed, but you're surely wrong about fox not being a very good dueller (although he started as a tdm'er).
edit: you confused Viking's lineup with 4kings. Vikings were yodaz, hazzi etc

Edited by Gladius at 08:46 CDT, 15 August 2009

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r1ddler - Reply to #1008

no no,what i was trying to say is that both are indeed good (top10) but it seems that psychologically they aren't on the level of cooler,z4 etc. like that extra something is missing(rather,not complete) ..the patience/tactical side of the game i think..

Yes you are right,Thats the 4kings line up :)

\o.

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Gladius - Reply to #1022

k, I agree in that case =p

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lizahd - Reply to #996

it wasnt forze, it was c58 with satan am0k yotkoff and me ;x

<< Comment #1047 @ 09:32 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1034

lol,im sorry dude :)

It was a copy/paste from a noname site..should have done my research better..my apologies :)

<< Comment #978 @ 07:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou

According to the Tweets, today will be starting at 16h CEST

<< Comment #985 @ 08:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

1.Chyper
2.Rapha
3:Stermy

Is the most probable outcome :)

<< Comment #991 @ 08:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #985

Swap Cypher with Rapha and you're probably right.

<< Comment #993 @ 08:17 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #991

yep rapha can win this.

<< Comment #994 @ 08:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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JDMYO - Reply to #993

Agreed, I think Rapha :) he's fuckin' bad ass! Cyphers the man as well but I'd like to see Rapha. Can't wait to see the demos! Such a shame Noctis wasn't/isn't there - I think Noctis would've been top 3 with Raph and Cyph.
Tis gunna be a close one this! :)

<< Comment #997 @ 08:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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dav1d_aka_latuch - Reply to #994

noctis is internet hero

<< Comment #1005 @ 08:35 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #997

he did ok on lan last year didn't he?

Edited by terrorhead at 08:36 CDT, 15 August 2009

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dav1d_aka_latuch - Reply to #1005

but i mean that he is winning everything on internet but on lan when play good he isn't higher than 4th

<< Comment #1060 @ 09:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark - Reply to #1016

top5 is actually great, stfu

-> noctis fanboy

<< Comment #1063 @ 09:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1016

I don't think he's played a lan tourney since he started "winning everything on internet", has he?

<< Comment #1092 @ 11:17 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1063

You're on to something. We need more timescale 0.1 shownormals videos, ASAP!

<< Comment #1195 @ 14:37 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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douille - Reply to #1092

I guess he meant that noctis didn't get the occasion to prove that his skill improvement was legitimate - because he did really improve since his last lan games. (and not that he did not took the occasion on purpose)

<< Comment #1226 @ 15:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1195

Yes, this is what I meant. Thanks.

<< Comment #1210 @ 14:53 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #1092

Noctis doesn't want to share his demo's so yes the plot thickens!

<< Comment #1131 @ 12:01 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #991

What is it with your tongue and Americas arse..?

<< Comment #1012 @ 08:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #985

cypher is terrible on the new maps whereas rapha actually did put in the time. I believe the final is going to be bo5, so there is very little chance cypher is going to win that.

<< Comment #1036 @ 09:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1012

exactly

rapha plays all 7, cypher is terrible on 3/7 (t7 t9 ca2)

so if ztn is removed, rapha has much bigger chances.

<< Comment #998 @ 08:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fws

Looking at avek vs dkt on dm6 I would say that apparently dkt way of playing didnt suit avek at all, most likely he was not expecting most of his plays. Oldschool experience is what most people would quote and I partialy agree, but I think it was like that because dkt learned basics at UT, and not Quake. He may see, search for, and create attack opportunities in a bit different way from average Q3 player. Especialy since back in the day he was considered a rl player (he had 56k after all), such players often needs to be a bit more creative and hence UT may had quite an impact on him.

Watching him play I felt that he developed his game in early gaming days all by himself. It wasnt most exciting match I have seen, but in some nostaligic way, it was refreshing.

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #998

Lol, that has to be the most deseprate attempt at success by association I have seen in a long time.

Come on, the duel scene has moved on hugely in 10 years.
The shit he did in UT is just everyday duel stuff by today's standards. You' cant possibly believe that was the reason he beat avek, there are loads more modern fundamental lessons he learned that led to the win.

Everyone takes stuff from the games they played in the past, but to single out a single game from 10 years ago is biased beyond belief.

<< Comment #1048 @ 09:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1042

I partly agree tho,Av3k obviously didnt play well against dkts' style of play..which is a reflection of his past ( UT,high ping etc.) .. so there might be a bit to it :P

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Carmac - Reply to #1042

Have you ever seen the shit he did in UT and do you know how the game is played today?

<< Comment #1269 @ 17:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (203-166-225-62.dyn.iinet.net.au) - Reply to #1107

Never really understood how the euros were losing/having close games.

<< Comment #1115 @ 11:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fws - Reply to #1042

Jamerio, have you ever won anything?

Basics that players learn at the beginning tend to stick with them for a very long time, and it is not only lets say bad habits, but whole way of thinking. Of course things like map control, going for shaft exchanges when in advantage and positioning yourself is quite same in both games, but the decision making is not so obvious. If you arent able to see that while playing different people then, well I cant argue, just tell you that I do see that. Try playing different games against people with different backgrounds and maybe someday you will be able to see it too :P

<< Comment #1119 @ 11:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1115

"Jamerio, have you ever won anything?"

Oh no you didn't :((((

Now its gonna take another 10 to load all the posts in this thread :(((

<< Comment #1122 @ 11:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fws - Reply to #1119

Im just curious what, aside from popularity on esr, archived person who says that Im attempting at success by association.

<< Comment #1128 @ 11:59 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1122

took some games from top players in arcades or smth

equiv of me making you rage quit :<

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1122

What does it have to do with anything?

I'm simply asking you to explain this success by association thing you seem to have going on.

If you ask me you're already displaying symptoms of trying to change the topic becaue I suspect if and when you do detail the piece of play you appear to be referring to you will in fact confirm its something he would have inherrited from any other game, and you are just trying the success by association thing.

Despite the fact that in the 10 years since mr flanders has played virtually every other FPS. So why single out the oldest?

So I'm really curious what it is he's specifcally take from UT that's made you ignore everything else he's played since then.

Edited by Jamerio at 18:49 CDT, 15 August 2009

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fws - Reply to #1286

Well of course it is something that can be inherited from any game. Why the oldest? Because it simply is the oldest, because that was his first in which he learned the basics. I saw his game in UT and it was already quite complete for that time. Would he start with another game and do similiary in it, then I would most likely pick it.
It also just looked for me that way, that UT had most impact. Im not dissing the other games he played, they certainly had some impact on his current game overall, but as far as that certain difference in style is considered, based on my experience I put my money on UT. It may not be as obvious as lets say in case of player who learned dueling in cpm, but you can see some traits that apparently comes from neither Q3 nor CS :P

What he specifcally take out of UT? The thought process of intercepting or getting around your opponent.

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1372

Just like I thought, success by association.

Seriously, the skills DKT had 10 years ago are insignificant to the skillset he had to show at qcon and he would have learned them from playing any game. (Cypher was not even duelling 10 years ago-its a lifetime)

Its like crediting usain bolt's dad for teaching him to walk, and then saying at the end of the olympics, "well yeah it was my initial training that did that 9.68". While ignoring all the hard work the guy has obviously done since then WHICH DID NOT involve his dad.

I get it, you're proud he started with UT.

But you should not try and imply there is some deep seated strategic link between what he did at Qcon and UT.

It might have given him a push, but that's as far as it went.
Sadly that's not what you seemed to imply.

Anyway, I'm done. Qcon has totally screwed up my sleep pattern.

<< Comment #1409 @ 23:53 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fws - Reply to #1402

Well, cant argue with a person who apparently doesnt have enough understanding of gaming :P

Edited by fws at 23:55 CDT, 15 August 2009

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vicek - Reply to #1115

lol
next post may be really long

<< Comment #1308 @ 20:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #1279

Long post is LOOONG!

<< Comment #1280 @ 18:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1115

You've said a lot without actually saying anything.

Seeing as you're such an expert, why don't you define exactly what it is DKT did that made you attribute his play to UT AND what was unique about it and worthy of a specific mention?

Afterall, you're the one's making the claim.

Whether you play CS or Quake, you have to learn how to strafe.

Whether you play super mario or sonic, you have to learn how jump on baddies head.

Whter you play mortal Kombat or street Fighter 2, you need to learn how to block crossups.

So, because I'm pretty much convinced you're trying to attribute his success to Unreal Tourney (for no logical reason other than success by association), when in fact it just happens to be the game he played which he would have learned WHATEVER he played, then feel free to tell me what exactly what it is he's done?

What is the piece of play or style you're referring to.

And given the guy has played loads of FPS games since then, waht makes you attribute it to the game from 10 years ago?

I think you're full of success by association.

But feel free to prove me wrong.

Edited by Jamerio at 18:37 CDT, 15 August 2009

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fws - Reply to #1280

Actualy I wrote this in the very first post
"He may see, search for, and create attack opportunities in a bit different way from average Q3 player."

While with my experience and abilities Im able to see that, Im not analitycal profesor so I dont know if I can explain it to person who cant see it. Hence I may be unable to prove it to you, especialy since Im not native speaker. It would be easier if you would just play a lot of both games, and seen dkt in UT.

Because of different gameplay of UT, a player with style like his needs to develop a certain way of thinking. It would be similiar in Q3, however gameplay differences, especialy variety of possibilities given by maps and much longer time between pickups (the third would be unbalanced weapons), are important factors. Its not what he learned that he couldnt learned elsewhere, but what he learned differently.

I guess with a demos I could try to take a single play and show what he did while what most of Quake only players would do in his place, however that would not prove anything definitly. Thinking process isnt something that can be easly explained in technical way, you need a certain experience to tell things apart, but explaining is another thing. Im sorry but apparently you just arent a person who can see it by himself.

Kinda like when you are teaching others how to play. You can teach them positioning, map control, weapon choice, but you cant exactly teach them prediction and decision making, only give some pointers about them.

<< Comment #1000 @ 08:28 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou

mmmmm

1000 GET?

<< Comment #1001 @ 08:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #1000

cheat

<< Comment #1002 @ 08:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1000

refresherer

<< Comment #1013 @ 08:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1000

doesn't count in your case

<< Comment #1004 @ 08:35 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shardik

1001 pattes

<< Comment #1020 @ 08:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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bubble_ru - Reply to #1004

more

<< Comment #1007 @ 08:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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BalkanFM

will stream be up at 16:00 CEST or are they having trouble again?

<< Comment #1032 @ 09:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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smari - Reply to #1007

Coverage resumes 9:30 AM Central time, thats 17:30 CEST I think.

<< Comment #1043 @ 09:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #1032

16:30

<< Comment #1011 @ 08:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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TosspoT

Any feedback on the streaming platform and technology would be most welcome. The only indicator we have is that its gone from "omg fucking buffer" to people talking about matches, which is a good start :P However this is a brand new streaming platform on a masssive CDN so any improvements you can think of will be great!

We were going to do a low res stream also as you need probably 10mb down to watch this stream but we had a hardware failure here that stopped that on Day 2

<< Comment #1015 @ 08:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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retire - Reply to #1011

its running fine on my 7mb, very good quality. odd thing with sound from other player's pov though a lot of the time.

<< Comment #1017 @ 08:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #1011

stream work ok for me so no commetns on that.
but would have been nice if u had uploaded vods (plural) so we that are from eu can watch smth during the day.

edit: and ye, increase game sounds volume

Edited by stripy at 08:53 CDT, 15 August 2009

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InDepther - Reply to #1017

and ye, increase game sounds volume

yes that would be nice

<< Comment #1018 @ 08:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #1011

Yesterday the stream worked fine for me, the whole time. No buffering at all. My location is Germany with 20mbits inet.

But it seems the quality is a bit sharper when I use the direct link with VLC instead of the player on quadv.

To be able to "rewind" is also a nice feature!

<< Comment #1019 @ 08:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1011

it's running fine with my 3mbit connection and, in my opinion, especially for maps with rich textures (such as t7) the quality is just a tad too low to look good in fullscreen-mode.

edit: Yeah, I'd also appreciate some more s_volume. :)

Edited by scowl at 08:57 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1011

Quality is good. Watched it yesterday – high quality – with no buffer problems.

<< Comment #1027 @ 09:05 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1011

"However this is a brand new streaming platform"

What could possibly go wrong with testing a brand new platform right in the middle of Quakecon ^^

<< Comment #1029 @ 09:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1011

stream is now flawless ,no buffer whatsoever, the picture is really clean, surprised me a lot.

im on 8mb DSL

<< Comment #1035 @ 09:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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smari - Reply to #1011

Running without problems on 5mb here.

<< Comment #1037 @ 09:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #1011

for me it was perfect.
my friend who is having his net restricted by BT had buffering problems because of his own bad connection, but he said the pause function helped a bit.

<< Comment #1044 @ 09:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #1011

Great job on almost every aspect. Zero lag or buffering here.. had me hooked for hours on end without it getting boring due to lack of games. The shoutcasting became a little retarded after a few hours but that was to be expected after so many games.

<< Comment #1045 @ 09:26 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1011

I don't have any technical issues or buffering problems. I am on 20 Mb DSL in Spain.

Excellent job by the shoutcasters so far. Since I am enjoying the matches on the big TV, my neighbour thought I was watching SuperBowl or something like that.

<< Comment #1053 @ 09:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #1011

After the initial problems with internet, sound, etc, were resolved, it was pretty ok, but occasionally (~once in 30min) stream still interrupted with buffering, even when I had 30 seconds rewinded back (so the video was already downloaded, but I still got buffering message and interrupts). Reloading usually helped.
The other problem is aspect ratios: web player shows picture in 16:9 while in QL you have resolution with 4:3 ratio, so when viewed through web player, the picture is deformed. The only solution I've found is to watch using VLC. I totally don't understand why can't you just set 4:3 ratio in the web player and for what reasons did you set it for 16:9 initially.

<< Comment #1066 @ 10:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #1053

i just found out you get 4:3 when you open this in vlc:
http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/ukesa/live/stream3

<< Comment #1093 @ 11:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1053

There is a button on the web player, that lets you change the aspect ratio...

<< Comment #1050 @ 09:40 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1011

on my 3rd world pc cpu usage goes up to 100% while watching stream in opera (on wheat's site), it's better in firefox tho

<< Comment #1061 @ 09:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark - Reply to #1050

opera, lol

man up and use firefox + addons (covering everything opera has)

<< Comment #1099 @ 11:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #1050

try with google chrome maybe ?

<< Comment #1114 @ 11:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1099

ff does the job

<< Comment #1055 @ 09:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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dardoz - Reply to #1011

stream works pretty sweet for me now tosspot and I'm only on 3mb

<< Comment #1058 @ 09:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1011

The stream works, but I'm a bit surpriced that the quality is not better. For me it is kind of pixly if you say you require 10mbit download (I have 100mbit FYI). No bigger issues with lag, some small buffering at times which is ok. Someone already mentioned that the s_volume is low and I agree. I have to put all my windows volume to the highest to be able to hear :)

Overall a good stream. Small minus on the quality (considering you says it requires 10mbit download which should result ~close to 750-1000kb/s stream) and the volume.

Big thanks!

Edited by PURRI at 09:50 CDT, 15 August 2009

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ix - Reply to #1011

It's been really enjoyable, first bit of Quake stuff I've watched for ages. One thing though- they're called spawn frags, not conversion frags. Please stop calling them that. I don't believe it makes it any more accessible so stick to the community terms.

<< Comment #1065 @ 10:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Derfel - Reply to #1062

and similar thing: when both teams have each others flag back to their base call them cross-steals instead of stalemates. To me stalemate is too generic a term (could just mean that score is 0-0 for a long time).

<< Comment #1064 @ 09:56 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark - Reply to #1011

i want to see a current number of viewers indicator and maybe a total individual users that were on the stream :)

<< Comment #1091 @ 11:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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King Bombs - Reply to #1011

have to turn all my vulme controls up to hear you guys and it's still not great
rest is fine (better streaming on the djWheat stream imo, less buffering)

<< Comment #1187 @ 14:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1011

Stream was PERFECT for me yesterday and today.

I run a 2 MB connection, but it is in Turkey which means that 2MB here is like.. isdn or something from the old times in europe.

I always had buffering constantly when I watched other tourneys, this was smooth as hell though.

<< Comment #1039 @ 09:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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dav1d_aka_latuch

i'm watching on 1mb with standard quality without any problems

<< Comment #1049 @ 09:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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BalkanFM

cypher vs rapha played with no coverage?

<< Comment #1051 @ 09:40 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

lol @ quakecon schedule,am watching the broadcast for the past 45minutes,..first it said .. coverage starts at 9 AM,.. then Coverage start at 9.30 am..now it says Coverage starts Soon..
i guess whats next is: Coverage starts soonish..

heh..gg :)

Edited by r1ddler at 09:50 CDT, 15 August 2009

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dardoz - Reply to #1051

it wouldnt be so bad if they would actually give "honest" estimates of starting time instead of keeping us here endlessly waiting with no info

<< Comment #1057 @ 09:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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springBOKS

well, i am at qcon and nobody is around , so i expect them to start in next hour----maybe

<< Comment #1067 @ 10:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead

stermy vs dahang next

nice

<< Comment #1068 @ 10:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Ryan2015

next as in 2 hours orso lol

<< Comment #1069 @ 10:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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dardoz - Reply to #1068

if we're lucky

<< Comment #1072 @ 10:35 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

Dahang wins t7, Stermy wins ca2

so sick ...

<< Comment #1073 @ 10:37 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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kajebilo

THERE BETTER BE DEMOS!

<< Comment #1074 @ 10:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RabidDeathMoose

No ctf coverage today yet?

: (

<< Comment #1075 @ 10:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead

Can't watch stream :(

<< Comment #1077 @ 10:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

nice one spartie,"hm,mouse stoped working.I better quit after 2minutes of play"

but very well played 2:1 win over dkt

<< Comment #1082 @ 10:57 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zanza - Reply to #1077

he borrowed flysher's mouse to play ztn

<< Comment #1089 @ 11:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1082

you need ~~brains~~ flyshers mouse to play ztn

Edited by Lethe at 11:15 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Magician - Reply to #1077

why didn't he just call a timeout

what a dumbass

<< Comment #1132 @ 12:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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marle - Reply to #1085

is their a timeout funtion in ql now?

<< Comment #1078 @ 10:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

dkt & stermy kkthxbye

Edited by ChOu at 10:52 CDT, 15 August 2009

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dav1d_aka_latuch

gj DaHanG !

<< Comment #1080 @ 10:54 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

SPARTA!

Edited by mefajpE^ at 10:55 CDT, 15 August 2009

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r1ddler

Wheat is correct , stermy being top 6 is not disappointing,daHang is a surprise to me..the guy is skilled :D

<< Comment #1083 @ 10:59 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Slajer

Lets open up a paypal account for DaHanG QL lessons for Stermy

i couldn't resist :)

<< Comment #1087 @ 11:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #1083

I voted dahang to win the whole thing, but stermy's map choice was just not intelligent. If he had picked dm6 he would have 2-0'd him.

<< Comment #1123 @ 11:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1087

yea t9 has no rail. So I was sure that he will lose

<< Comment #1090 @ 11:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1083

lol :)

<< Comment #1096 @ 11:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1083

heh

Stermy placed lower than I expected. I really thought he'd be top three for sure, but damn... DaHanG is going bonkers.

I'm starting to wonder if having such a large variety of players (edit: the default day to day experience playing QL) on hand, and getting exposed to so many play styles (even if you can own the other players most of the time) is good after all?

People complain about the current format, but it sure does cut down on the little secret societies and elitism. Brings players together. Exposes players to a variety of styles etc.

You can have a five man rotation with some REALLY good players. Or a thirty man rotation with all kinds of different players, with some improving players making their way up the ranks in the process. The entire community gets stronger too, which in turn "gives back" to the top players in due time.

Thinking out loud.

Edited by zalu at 11:19 CDT, 15 August 2009

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1096

Well, it was really entertaining to watch a rail god vs a plasma god indeed

<< Comment #1084 @ 10:59 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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ChOu

WoooohHOOoooo EG vs fnatic! Cannot wait!

<< Comment #1086 @ 11:01 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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madbringer

Respect to DKT, i'm very impressed with the games he put out. DaHanG obviously deserved to go this far, it looks like he has more than a good shot of going past Spartie, but good luck to both!

<< Comment #1100 @ 11:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (60-242-182-77.static.tpgi.com.au)

can someone tell me is the match between cypher and rapha done?

<< Comment #1105 @ 11:26 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #1100

lol tpg

<< Comment #1111 @ 11:35 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1100

here:

http://tournaments.quakecon.org/tournament/sc...ampionship

<< Comment #1094 @ 11:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carpio

Set s_volume HIGHER pls! Other than that stream is fine!

<< Comment #1112 @ 11:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1094

agree

<< Comment #1097 @ 11:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fnaticStreeT

Respect to DKT indeed. Btw I got 2MB down and stream is working perfectly!

<< Comment #1104 @ 11:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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efassd

dkt lost to Spartie twice, that must suck!

<< Comment #1116 @ 11:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (d54C4BD73.access.telenet.be)

Hasnt been played yet.
First up is CTF - eg vs fnatic

<< Comment #1110 @ 11:34 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

dahang won over stermy... I'm blaming the jet lag :(

<< Comment #1113 @ 11:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fnaticStreeT - Reply to #1110

DaHang is really amazing I must admit, he is playing so well. His timing is insane so far.

<< Comment #1117 @ 11:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nineX

So i'm finally getting a chance to get on ESR. The tourney is going great and the matches have been really exciting. I'll post a couple stories when I get home. I'll be busy for the next week, easily.

<< Comment #1125 @ 11:54 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1117

upload some demos

<< Comment #1182 @ 14:26 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1117

do you HEAR it, or sound volume isn't just high enough?

<< Comment #1120 @ 11:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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revocelot

How about a pictures gallery? Can we get a pictures gallery here?

<< Comment #1121 @ 11:50 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

According to the QCon event schedule..

"Tournament Finals
Sat 15 Aug 18:00 – Sat 15 Aug 21:00
Main Stage
Don’t miss the exciting conclusion of the Quake tournament finals!"

...the Rapha v Cypher final should begin any time between midnight and 3am GMT. Unless anyone has heard of an alteration to this?

Also worth noting, new RAGE public demo is at 2.30 EST (8.30pm GMT). Can't wait to see that. :o)

Edited by FarQ at 11:57 CDT, 15 August 2009

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neb - Reply to #1121

just so you guys know, ALL the tournament finals MUST be played EXACTLY on time because they legally need to give away that shelby at a specified time, so everything must be on schedule.

<< Comment #1124 @ 11:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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atomigo

spart1e got a mouse fail . what a shame

<< Comment #1130 @ 12:01 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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p4r4

Yes it is, it's in Eastern Europe.

<< Comment #1126 @ 11:57 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mic

when start the ctf match, i must time not much quick

<< Comment #1127 @ 11:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze

when start the ctf match, i must time not much quick

<< Comment #1129 @ 12:01 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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p4r4

Yes, there is but it works awkward, it just scales image a bit and certainly doesn't give proper 4:3

<< Comment #1134 @ 12:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Heartlesss

1337 comments pls

<< Comment #1139 @ 13:06 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RexCramer

What's the point of having followkiller on in a CTF match? This sucks imho. :/

<< Comment #1142 @ 13:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #1139

Better than the "follow US-player"-pov that seems to go on otherwise.

<< Comment #1147 @ 13:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RexCramer - Reply to #1142

Didn't know there is such an option. ;)
Why not just stick with followpowerup on and leave the game alone? Works a lot better than switching pov every 5 seconds.

<< Comment #1138 @ 13:04 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

awesome job EG !

<< Comment #1140 @ 13:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Eviili

lol fnatic lost what an embarasment americans beated euros, hope cypher saves the day!

Edited by Eviili at 13:08 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Lethe - Reply to #1140

linkin + duel players

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LukKe - Reply to #1143

spartie was pretty solid in def tho

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Lethe - Reply to #1149

spartie was ruling the defense, but it seems like linkin was in 99% cases the only one to attack, not much support.

they played good defense though.

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stunt.us - Reply to #1143

linkin + natural born defensive players. Defense is basically what they play in tdm/duel. Kill niggas, time items.

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Lethe - Reply to #1153

i know, but they relied on linkin going rambo on 4 guys. i mean, linkin is a beast in ctf, but cant make it every single time.

<< Comment #1176 @ 14:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #1143

deus?

<< Comment #1178 @ 14:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1176

did he play both maps?

<< Comment #1183 @ 14:27 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #1178

who cares? he is not a duel player but used to play q3ctf.

<< Comment #1185 @ 14:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1183

nah i'm not gonna argue their tactics, its pretty obvious why they lost

<< Comment #1196 @ 14:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #1185

what

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Lethe - Reply to #1196

what what?

they were like the favourite to win, and they are obviously not a well-prepared team, they just def and let linkin do all the work, then what happens, happens. and linkin usually does it.

EG obviously has 5 times better teamwork to compensate the lack of aim, and it obviously worked

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zealot - Reply to #1209

...or you could simply admit you were wrong?

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Lethe - Reply to #1219

yeah i was wrong.

they were in fact well organized, had great player rotation and teamwork in attacks, as well as the possibility of more than 1 players capping.

<< Comment #1469 @ 07:06 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #1457

linkin + duel players

?

<< Comment #1557 @ 12:45 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1469

claiming spartie to be a ctf player is something like claiming linkin to be a duel player. wrong.

i didnt even count deus as their 5th man, but yeah he is a ctfer, so i'll change that.

linkin + duel players + a ctf-er who was their weakest link.

<< Comment #1224 @ 15:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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antroz - Reply to #1185

I think they lost because of the silly respawn timer in OT turning it into CTFS.

Fnatic really should've won both.

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Anonymous (87-194-116-50.bethere.co.uk) - Reply to #1143

spartie started quake as a ctf player and has played it ever since, deus is also ctf/tdm but played a tiny bit of q4 duel I think. fox and stermy were the duellers but I don't think they played any maps with both of them in lineup.

<< Comment #1213 @ 14:56 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Eviili - Reply to #1200

lol uve got it all wrong sry but spartie is no tdm player we have seen that when he was playing with miel in r3spect cup and later in nc...he is just much stronger in duels!Fox a dueller!?!?!thats a joke right!?

<< Comment #1244 @ 16:28 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (87-194-116-50.bethere.co.uk) - Reply to #1213

didn't mention anything about spartie being a tdmer, and most people would consider fox a dueller which is pretty obvious from the fact he attends most of the big duel tournaments for the past few years (ofc he started as and still is tdmer but that is pretty irrelevant to my comment no?)

<< Comment #1144 @ 13:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #1140

Best US ctf team struggles into overtime twice against a random EU pick-up team.

<< Comment #1151 @ 13:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1144

hey what about the ownage in 2003 qcon and that euro lan usa won?

<< Comment #1211 @ 14:54 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1144

is fnatic the "random pickup group" you're referring to? Since they're a bunch of newbs and all. And all those really high skilled CTF teams that didn't attend would just wipe the floor with the fnatic team, eh?

<< Comment #1315 @ 20:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zoinks - Reply to #1144

Random eu pickup team that has the best aimers in the world right now, yeah.

<< Comment #1141 @ 13:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Silencep

lolled

<< Comment #1145 @ 13:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

hey carmack pls make russian servers so jibo can play kthxbye

<< Comment #1146 @ 13:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

Linkin was awesome. By far the greatest ctf player in this tournament.

<< Comment #1159 @ 14:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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psionyx - Reply to #1146

definitely. spartie's defence was very impressive also.

<< Comment #1166 @ 14:19 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1146

Dahang did the important captures though

<< Comment #1172 @ 14:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1146

I agree,but as a team fNatic had a smaller CTF IQ then EG,..how much practice did fNatic even get playing ctf together ?

anyhow,..link1n was very impressive

<< Comment #1148 @ 13:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust363.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

Dahang is a smooth motherfucka' - doesn't bitch, plays very well.

<< Comment #1154 @ 13:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

Cypher vs Rapha playing now \o/

<< Comment #1161 @ 14:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nohm

Who said 10 minute matches can't be tactical?

<< Comment #1189 @ 14:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1161

I think it needs 15 though.

I think for most games 10 is ok, but when it gets to the final 8 in a big tourney, they really should move back upto 15.

<< Comment #1246 @ 16:41 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1189

and defeat the whole purpose of a competition

ok.

<< Comment #1155 @ 14:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

LOL @ Spart1e DaHang t7 omg :DDD

<< Comment #1156 @ 14:05 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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duumed - Reply to #1155

:D

<< Comment #1160 @ 14:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (h13n4fls31o1105.telia.com)

omfg spartie! nice finish! \:D/

<< Comment #1157 @ 14:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

well done rapha !!

<< Comment #1158 @ 14:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

WB final Cypher 1 - Rapha 2

Edited by Kirsebaer at 14:15 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1162 @ 14:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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v1ze

cypher used to having the better aim. he even mentioned it during dm13.

ruh roh :>

<< Comment #1163 @ 14:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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noctis

not showing spartie - cypher = bleh :(

<< Comment #1164 @ 14:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

lb final not streamed, WTF?!!??!?! Cypher vs Spart1e, are you kidding me?

<< Comment #1167 @ 14:19 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1164

i am seriously pissed about that...what the hell are they doing?

<< Comment #1170 @ 14:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #1164

i know! they better vod that bitch, but i doubt it cus they is moving pc's etc :(

<< Comment #1168 @ 14:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

It seems odd to me that rapha will play someone from the losers bracket in the grand final. Since rapha and cypher ended up as the final 2 of the winners bracket and so making them the best 2 players, shouldn't that in itself have made the match just played by them the grand final?

<< Comment #1173 @ 14:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1168

then we could just remove the losers' bracket, smartass :D

it's quite simple actually:
spart1e was thrown out by rapha. if spart1e is better than cypher, he deserves to be in the grand final.

Edited by scowl at 14:26 CDT, 15 August 2009

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FarQ - Reply to #1173

No, it's just that I thought (obviously wrongly) that
there would be two grand finals. The winner of the winners bracket ,
just played) and the winner of the losers bracket. Rapha and Cypher ended up the final 2 players as a process of eliminating all the others, in the same way nadal and federer end up in the final of wimbledon by eliminating all the other seeds. You wouldn't then get nadal or federer playing the winner of a losers bracket would you.

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scowl - Reply to #1186

that's because tennis doesn't have double elimination, true.

But let's say Djokovic gets thrown out by Nadal and Nadal wins against Federer in the final ...

How do we find out if Djokovic would have been better than Federer? We don't. But in Quake, we do. \o/

Edited by scowl at 14:35 CDT, 15 August 2009

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terrorhead - Reply to #1186

different systems dude.

<< Comment #1179 @ 14:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #1168

true, but double elimination is better cus we get to see more games

<< Comment #1190 @ 14:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #1179

Heh, well I'm not complaining, you're quite right. Great to see more matches. But it just seems odd to me that's all. :p

<< Comment #1220 @ 15:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1190

The idea behind double elimination is that the second-best player finishes second, rather than the best player from the other side of the bracket, and, if someone had an unlucky game in a short bo3 match earlier on, they have a chance to redeem themselves and maybe win the whole thing by taking two bo5s in the grand final.

It has long been established as a standard for many esports tournaments, and any system that means we see the top players finishing at the top more often must be a good one.

<< Comment #1227 @ 15:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1220

is popular at pool competitions as well

<< Comment #1180 @ 14:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #1168

cypher will have to beat him twice.

<< Comment #1203 @ 14:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1180

i think it was said that there will be only one bo5 (stupid if you ask me...)

<< Comment #1181 @ 14:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1168

obviously quite new to quake tournaments oO

<< Comment #1199 @ 14:40 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1168

ehhhhh? .. this is ESR what site you meant to post in?

<< Comment #1265 @ 17:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #1168

What if the two really BEST players meet in the semi final? Has this thought occurred to you?

<< Comment #1174 @ 14:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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JDMYO

I think Raphas beat Cypher in the winners bracket final :) - my prediction :D Rapha to win me think! :) Cant wait to see the demos :)

<< Comment #1184 @ 14:27 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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smari

Do cypher/spartie have to win two series if they reach the finals?

<< Comment #1245 @ 16:40 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1184

don't think so.

If I understood it correctly it will be a best of 5 either way.

<< Comment #1188 @ 14:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl

CTF Championship
17:00 CEST, 15 August 2009: Bronze Final (2 teams)

Didn't they say they'd be showing this? :@

<< Comment #1194 @ 14:37 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1188

why complain ?
if it's quakecon, it can't be perfect, any excuse to fuck up things and coverage is good -as tosspot said, while they play losers bracket, sit back and enjoy your bubble gum (pause for some wankings)

<< Comment #1202 @ 14:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1194

No.

<< Comment #1205 @ 14:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1202

=(

<< Comment #1192 @ 14:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

cypher did not play his mental games he usually does when he's in top shape, also it seems 10 minutes isn't enough for him to get warmed up well (on tl 15 many times he start owning for the second part of the matches)
also he should have go more aggressive when he was in control, he isn't very sure what he have to do on tl 10 (sometimes played too carefully, other times too aggressive)

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 14:34 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1267 @ 17:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1192

christ you people will make excuses and try to justify something AT EVERY FUCKING TOurNAMENTS these people play at. THIS THIS THIS THAT THAT THAT IF IT WAS THIS THEN THAT THAT THEN THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, SHUT THE FUCK UP, you piece of shit. You play the game, you know the rules, you know the settings, you know the chairs, you know the monitors, you know everything going to a lan because they have been to these lans sooo many times now. If you still have to make excuses then gtfo and go play cock fight 2.

<< Comment #1418 @ 00:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1267

I agree. People always find excuses for why their favourite didn't win. But then again who does not do that when you know the player can perform better. Like when the Cooller fanboys are saying he didn't practice very much because of the low price pool, so that's why he lost. It's obviously no excuse since they know the terms and they are given the same 24 hours a day to practice, and then it's up to themselves how they want to spend them. I think a lot of it is down to whether a player was a time fragger as Jamerio puts it, or if he won because he was the better player. When Unkind and Lexer started to lose I also hoped they would begin to practice more, because I felt they lost to players that only won because they had invested more time into training. They were time fraggers. But as said, that's no excuse..even though we make it one. If you lose, you lose, it's as simple as that. Doesn't matter if you are nervous, sweaty, you don't know the maps that well, the other guy has the crowd support and you don't and so on....

<< Comment #1476 @ 07:28 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1418

I am not cypher's fanboy, last year after I was saying before eswc that I don't like cypher's style and that I think he is the best because the q3 scene wasn't active anymore for years, after eswc was ending, someone was sending me an IM on esr with this text "cypher said hi", my reply was "fuck cypher"
I was playing him a bit about two-three months ago and he was not the bad mofo he should have been, even without practice, the score was something like 20-15 for him, with me and him ocasionally being in the lead through the match, so it is obvious that he wasn't at his top (ping abt the same); I was playing also purri at the time, the final score was about 30-10 for purri, and it actually was giving me the feeling I am overaimed; also against spart1e I am pretty much in big trouble, I was asking myself on the possibility that players like cypher and link1n play more agressive, and spart1e and purri play slower style, baseing their game more on positioning, thus gaining more aim, but whatever the reason cypher's game was not brilliant
Trying to understand why cypher lost his matches (because I was following his performance, indeed), I was thinking one more time on the matches I've seen these days, recalled the actions he done which I did not agree, recalled his quakecon 2008 demos, and there we are: 10 minutes tl isn't his game, he don't perfectly know when to go super agressive and when to defend, because the pressure of the timelimit, if you will watch cypher demos you will see he tend to play a bit soft or maybe just relaxed and not care a few frags he give away in the beginnings, this fucking around style get brutally penalised by quake live, just think about it, you loose two or three frags, three minutes are already gone, now you have to come back, against spart1e, fox or purri who are all supertimers, this will be a hell of a job, you are nervous because you know you have about four or five more minutes you need to dominate, and if you don't get back meanwhile, guess what expects you: the superdefensive shoot the damn corners with the rockets style, if in 5 minutes your opponent is in the lead by 5 or 6 frags, you are almost getting locked on his style, I am not even trying to put this in my favour, as it seems one thing I miss the most when playing quake is stamina (can't concentrate over long periods of time), so as djwheat said, because I am old now, the shorter the better :P
also I don't care that much that he lost, I only admit he got a bit worst than he could go, imo the value of pro qlive players is so tight, the winner of competitions is pretty random, that's why I did not vote for who will win qcon 2009
it's just that I tried to analyse what he went wrong here
so much for the fanboy idea

<< Comment #1488 @ 07:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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douille - Reply to #1476

fanboy

<< Comment #1579 @ 15:21 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1488

keke

<< Comment #1597 @ 17:32 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roffo - Reply to #1476

tldr

<< Comment #1197 @ 14:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Ch1ef

LOL I FORGOT ABOUT QUAKECON DUUUUUUUURRRRRRR

<< Comment #1201 @ 14:41 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (213.141.128.235)

Any games more today?

<< Comment #1208 @ 14:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1201

in abt three hours (their words)

<< Comment #1204 @ 14:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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wata

they aren't streaming LB finals cause they have to move their stuff to the main stage and they only got 3h+ to make it ?
that's simply lame or am I missing something ?

<< Comment #1206 @ 14:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1204

both
they are lame and you are missing LB finals

<< Comment #1207 @ 14:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1204

Not missing anything.

edit: Haha, except of 2 great and interesting matches, one of which they promised to show, of course.

Edited by scowl at 14:49 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1212 @ 14:56 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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c1 - Reply to #1207

I hope we wont miss the finals...

<< Comment #1221 @ 15:14 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (74.72.218.11) - Reply to #1204

Yea. You're missing the amount of work that it takes to move all that equipment and set it all up and test it to make sure it's all working properly. It's a crap ton of work and I'll be surprised if they do get it done in three hours.

Fucking ingrate.

<< Comment #1223 @ 15:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1221

why do they have to move it now for the <sigh> finals?
why did people [ed]had not this kind of problems at eswc?
genius

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 15:21 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Anonymous (74.72.218.11) - Reply to #1223

Because it would make no sense to move the equipment any sooner. The stage is only being used for the grand finals and so it makes sense that they would move things over there just before the grand finals were scheduled to start.

And there is no problem, they're sticking to the schedule and moving along as planned. You're just upset because you don't want to wait for the grand final.

<< Comment #1230 @ 15:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1229

no we are upset because we want to see the fucking loser bracket finals.

<< Comment #1261 @ 17:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1229

upload then the demos of the matches they DON'T cast
fuckin' cunts

<< Comment #1232 @ 15:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #1221

3h+ to move some equipement ? they run on a 40 486 cluster under dos or wut ?
ho and fu

what must have happened is this : quakecon orgs with no clue must have told them to move now, and they did ; whatever the truth, I find it lame, if you got a problem with that I couldn't care less. and beside that I find their coverage pretty good and am thankful for it, see I'm not ingrate you anon prick

Edited by wata at 15:57 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Mav_ - Reply to #1232

Nah, it is really a ton of hardware. Cameras, PCs, video mixers that weight A LOT. Also, kilometres of cables and lots of lights. Not to mention that every single time you have to set it up, that usually takes a while every time you plug most of the things in. Some things always fuck up meanwhile. So, I am not surprised that It will take it about 3 hours.

What I am surprised of is that why the hell didn't they foreseen that they will have to take the stream down at one point, and if they did see that, why didn't they solve this in a completely other way, instead of agreeing not to broadcast one of the most important matches at QuakeCon.

edit: typo

Edited by Mav_ at 16:10 CDT, 15 August 2009

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wata - Reply to #1239

I like your explanation better

too bad they made a move for the quakecon audience, while they are supposed to be there for a video stream and let it down

also : couldn't they have let the single -I guess- pc which create the stream and send it, and move their shoutcasting stuff while we could have enjoyed the matches without their live comments ?

Edited by wata at 16:19 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Mav_ - Reply to #1221

It's an organisational issue that should have been planned how not to happen long before the tournament had even started. I'm talking from experience now and I know that it is one of the first things that you do in an event like that, you plan those things in advance.

It's not that we're ungrateful, we're just pissed off because we will miss one of the most important matches at QuakeCon.

And it's really a shame, because you did a hell of a job, the shoutcasting was awesome, the stream set up very nicely, the quality was surprisingly superb. But, most of the spectators in the hardcore community will still remember you because of the mistakes that you made, even though they were considerably small when compared to what you achieved.

On a side note:

[sarcasm]Oh, yeah, and why should we want GTV, the streams are so easy to set up nowadays.[/sarcasm]

[or let me be a little bit more sarcastic]After all, we saw *all* the matches from *all* the rounds that we wanted to see.[/or let me be a little bit more sarcastic]

<< Comment #1449 @ 04:15 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #1235

do u know what im tired of their "this is an event done by volunteers so bear with us" BS. its clear that they dont learn any lessons from previous years. its just terrible terrible organization.

<< Comment #1216 @ 15:04 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stripy ' - Reply to #1204

i'm guessing coz there is a public demo of Rage in-between.

<< Comment #1218 @ 15:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1204

Wheat needs to groom his ego for the grand final, TosspoT needs to groom his pubestache, and Slasher's got the munchies.

<< Comment #1215 @ 15:00 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Well, I now predict that cypher will beat spartie, and cypher will once again meet in the GF.

Rapha will win. Or lose. I can guarantee one of those things will happen. ^_^

<< Comment #1225 @ 15:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1215

cypher don't know how to handle 10 min tl matches yet, sometimes he go too aggressive other times play too pasive
(unfortunately, because I kinda dislike rapha's style)

<< Comment #1222 @ 15:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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JDMYO

Rapha for the win! Cypher over Spartie, Rapha over Cypher. Someone steel configs and demos and upload please :)

<< Comment #1255 @ 17:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #1222

Demos and configs? This is quakecon, so consider yourself lucky if you get as much as a screenshot of the endgame scoreboard.

Edited by Khorney at 17:19 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1228 @ 15:37 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Derb_

yea it'd be nice to have all their configs like sum1 did for eswc last time. Their configs surely changed somehwat due to it being ql.

<< Comment #1234 @ 15:57 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Eviili

gg ID for another dissapointing qcon event.I guess that right now you are taking some fun with drawing a winner of that stupid mustang car, but hey its only ctf + lb finals for which nobody cares about right!?An event that is supposed to celebrate quake ruining the experience to the fans, really well done...qcon is so shit compared to eswc!Would be better if players were to meet at Dreamhack im sure about that.Anyways im not even going to wait for the finals, rather go and take some sleep since this fucking ceremony can take up to 3h+ gg!

<< Comment #1238 @ 16:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1234

Grumpy cunt. Apart from the dodgy coverage on the first day its been a blast and I'm not even there.

Shesh, they give some of you nerds a chance to win a mustang, 10's of thousands of pounds and competitions for your .1% of the market game and you whine.

A lot of gamers really are dicks and you deserve to be called nerds and your hobby not taken seriously because the demographics will always be filled with turds like you.

Edited by Jamerio at 16:11 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1243 @ 16:25 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1238

Wow a positive comment from you. On drugs?

<< Comment #1251 @ 17:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1243

No. Maybe you're off them?

<< Comment #1256 @ 17:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1251

Nah I usually have to keep taking them to be able to read your comments and stay sane.

<< Comment #1252 @ 17:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1243

.

Edited by Bob at 15:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1273 @ 18:01 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1252

Congratulations you win the broken logic award of the day.

<< Comment #1431 @ 02:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1238

we should be grateful they give us shit coverage? i couldn't care less if they gave "us" competition, what you're saying is just plain stupid

you should be grateful im posting this comment to you, why? cause it's free, you got no right to complain about it, don't be a nerd.

<< Comment #1441 @ 03:46 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Eviili - Reply to #1238

lol dumbass, u just dont get it...

This is supposed to be a TOURNAMENT and not some stand-up comedy!!I couldnt care less for that car,I couldnt care less for those t-shirts and damn sure I couldnt care less if Hollenshead were to dance in his pink underwear on that stage.QUAKE TOURNAMENT FIRST than everything else, those things should be put aside.

Guess what would happen on a stadium full of crowd on a champions league or worldcup semi-final games if some ppl would be stretching that ceremony up for 3-4 hours...or if TV signal would stop emitting in the middle of the game,pls go figure stupid fag!

and ofc I appreciate every quake tournament thats beeing held...its just that this one is by far the most dissapointing

<< Comment #1417 @ 00:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #1234

hey congratz mate... comment #1234.. u deserved for that mustang :D

<< Comment #1236 @ 16:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Legie

1234 post!

<< Comment #1237 @ 16:04 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Legie - Reply to #1236

damn , you are slow !

<< Comment #1240 @ 16:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Mav_ - Reply to #1236

Guess you'll have to hope for a 12345 post :D

<< Comment #1258 @ 17:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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amt - Reply to #1240

1337 post or nothing

<< Comment #1248 @ 16:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Malice

So... does walter hack walls now or not?

<< Comment #1253 @ 17:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #1248

Judging by his placement he lost both the wallhacks and the skills :p. If he ever had any cheat that is.
A shadow of his former self.

<< Comment #1254 @ 17:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1248

Seriously, if no one confirms the guy on hub when you have a great opportunity to do so well, its your fault.

<< Comment #1270 @ 17:50 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1254

I think he would have two million reasons not to play in the byoc and play hub. I would be soooo surprised if he does play it. but then if he doesn't do well on hub he could always says "i been practicing ctf blahblah" even though it looked like he was useless for his team.

<< Comment #1282 @ 18:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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linged - Reply to #1270

He lost with 2 frags against Chance, and beat vo0. I don't know how tight the match against Griffin was.

In any way, Walter did show that he is a good quaker on lan as well, and as people have pointed out, quakelive has no hub, which was the one map where he excelled.

Walter has been competitive against players like Chance online on maps that are not hub, and showed the same thing on lan, but coming up just short.

It's not like he lost bigtime or lost to bad players, but he played some of the best guys out there really tough, and it wasn't on hubaeroq3, so I don't see the point in dissing a guy that came to lan, which haters always said he wouldn't, and showed that he is indeed a really good player.

<< Comment #1304 @ 19:59 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1282

really good players place better, rapha is really good, cypher is really good, CZM and zero4 are really good.

<< Comment #1307 @ 20:06 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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linged - Reply to #1304

You are right of course, putting it that way Walter is not really good, but he is competitive against very good players like Chance or Griffin which is respectable and pretty far from cheating online and not being able to play with the same guys on lan.

<< Comment #1423 @ 01:46 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1304

so not one of HELL, garpy, carnage, clampOK and tox1c are really good?

Why thanks for the input you may sit down now.

<< Comment #1564 @ 13:38 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1423

obviously not. they may be good, but they aren't really good. You won't ever see them win anything. Especially carnage he has been fail ever since quakecon started.

Really good players have a shot at winning tournaments.

You may sit down because you're obviously not even good at quake you must just sit on esr and practice trolling.

<< Comment #1567 @ 13:41 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1564

garpy never won anything?

mkay.

<< Comment #1568 @ 13:57 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1567

yep let's see his major quake3 or quakelive lan winnings.

<< Comment #1570 @ 14:16 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1568

ah,so now "anything" is suddenly major lan winnings. anything else you want to rephrase?

also, I just thought about this: if those guys and walter are only "good" in your classification I take it the also runs like kgb out of shape vo0 and so on are merely mediocre.

doesn't mean you just classed yourself as "sucks hard"?

<< Comment #1426 @ 02:00 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1304

.

Edited by Bob at 15:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1257 @ 17:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Equim

The brackets don't show a result for Cypher vs Spartie yet: http://tournaments.quakecon.org/tournament/sc...ampionship

If it's not been played yet maybe they're waiting until they can cover it? I probably shouldn't get my hopes up...

<< Comment #1259 @ 17:28 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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retire - Reply to #1257

that would be nice :)

<< Comment #1260 @ 17:30 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1257

30 mins !

<< Comment #1262 @ 17:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

stream is up atleast

<< Comment #1263 @ 17:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mistermojo

did they have the public Rage demo already? i hope gametrailers or something has hd footage

<< Comment #1277 @ 18:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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wn - Reply to #1263

From Twitter:
@QuakeCon Quick reminder to anyone at the RAGE demo presentation: NO photo or video please.

Pretty lame. Hopefully they'll put out an official video of the demonstration.

<< Comment #1285 @ 18:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #1277

they mean randoms in the crowd, one of the big websites will be recording.

<< Comment #1264 @ 17:34 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GUArd

STAND UP THESE MADAFUKAS WHO TOLD THAT SPARTIE IS OVERRATED!!!!

<< Comment #1268 @ 17:46 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1264

the cool thing is that spartie didn't feel he had practiced enough before quakecon, but he certainly proved yet again he is one of the best players atm.

really hope he can deliver against cypher, interesting match non the less.

<< Comment #1266 @ 17:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus

I want to hear the stuffs!!!!

<< Comment #1271 @ 17:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder

The final starts in 5min.

<< Comment #1272 @ 18:00 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1271

Let me convert that into QuakeCon timezone for you:

The final starts in 3h.

<< Comment #1274 @ 18:02 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #1272

CTF? :'((

<< Comment #1275 @ 18:02 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1272

lol, I don't doubt that

<< Comment #1276 @ 18:03 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1271

You miss an 0 off the number?

<< Comment #1278 @ 18:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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chronaden

Why dont they have LB in CTF?

<< Comment #1281 @ 18:27 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #1278

because CTF tournament with LB would take too much time?

<< Comment #1283 @ 18:32 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

Looking forward to this. Fucking go already!

<< Comment #1284 @ 18:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

things are happening...

<< Comment #1287 @ 18:48 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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frank_garrett

that hollenshead guy is a total cornball

<< Comment #1295 @ 19:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1287

He's just American with long hair and confidence.
Don't hate.

<< Comment #1314 @ 20:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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frank_garrett - Reply to #1295

and the rest

<< Comment #1288 @ 18:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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RaZa

who is this guy.

<< Comment #1289 @ 18:50 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou

It's live but I sense hour of boring before anything fun : /

<< Comment #1290 @ 18:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

quake fuck yeah!

<< Comment #1291 @ 18:55 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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cumrag

any minute now....

<< Comment #1292 @ 18:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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koOma

will HD VODs / demos be released?

<< Comment #1293 @ 19:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

What a complete posing knob that player is with his shirt off.

<< Comment #1605 @ 17:54 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1293

lol

<< Comment #1294 @ 19:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

who is that nazi guy?

<< Comment #1301 @ 19:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1294

ma orzelka na piersi :F

<< Comment #1306 @ 20:05 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #1301

no, nazistowskiego podobno :D:D

<< Comment #1370 @ 22:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vicek - Reply to #1294

what are you talkin' about

<< Comment #1296 @ 19:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Magician

if tosspot says "the game is tentatively/delicately poised" one more time it's going on mute

<< Comment #1297 @ 19:17 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus

DJ Wheat just said "and kgb the hacker"

:D

<< Comment #1298 @ 19:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #1297

ahaha, yeah. He introduced Kgb as he walked on stage as "the hacker". lolz

<< Comment #1310 @ 20:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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zoinks - Reply to #1298

Yeah but he said afterward that kgb asked to be introduced that way. :D

<< Comment #1433 @ 02:35 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #1298

he does hack online. fuckin nerds

<< Comment #1552 @ 11:59 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1433

like kash?

<< Comment #1692 @ 04:11 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #1552

i don't think he cheated because i know what is possible, but i don't expect stupid chumps like you to know that.

<< Comment #1704 @ 09:14 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1692

why support cheaters, cheat.

<< Comment #1299 @ 19:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By

1ecb61110

Got to love how the audience is trapped in for the car lottery

<< Comment #1300 @ 19:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

After watching the ctf finals,especially that last map,made it obvious that fNatic was a better team...lol..at least link1n is the mvp :P

<< Comment #1302 @ 19:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard

Sheesh Hollenshead give it a rest with the hookers

<< Comment #1303 @ 19:58 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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- Z -

Isnt that ponytail guy the same of last year that didnt even know Z4 and Cpr nick ? Still a moron.. talking about the 5 girls like they were some goddesses instead some bimbos and the "ppl get paid to play games??" HELLO !!!! HELLO!!!! Cmon, get rid of the guy once and for all

<< Comment #1305 @ 20:00 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

todd is such a rockstar

edit: cute dress nontheless

Edited by carbon38 at 20:17 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1333 @ 20:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (81-232-54-210-no40.tbcn.telia.com)

rapha vs spat1e =)

<< Comment #1309 @ 20:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Bartender

He's the CEO of id. Fuckhead nonetheless

<< Comment #1311 @ 20:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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DWdanne

Spart1e is warming up, so I guess he won versus Cypher.

<< Comment #1332 @ 20:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (221.209.73.60) - Reply to #1311

cyph warming upn as well XD

<< Comment #1312 @ 20:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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retire

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18090-QuakeC...ra_matters

Dejavu

<< Comment #1318 @ 20:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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DWdanne - Reply to #1312

Agree.

<< Comment #1319 @ 20:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #1312

absolutely not

<< Comment #1313 @ 20:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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GreEn`mArine

AWESOME failure how todd tries to get away his fucking car lottery tickets....

<< Comment #1316 @ 20:19 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By

Bluder

stream down again?

<< Comment #1317 @ 20:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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puma_ - Reply to #1316

Power cut at venue.

<< Comment #1323 @ 20:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Venim - Reply to #1316

ya for me too :(

<< Comment #1320 @ 20:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Is it me or has djwheat.tv gone down?

<< Comment #1321 @ 20:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1320

I hope they got NUKED
well not djwheat but todd shirthead without bra...

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 20:23 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1322 @ 20:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fur*q

It's all gone bum

<< Comment #1324 @ 20:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By

koji

down.................. :(

<< Comment #1325 @ 20:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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puma_

<quadV|Iain> power cut

<< Comment #1326 @ 20:23 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By

f0rk123

http://twitter.com/stlava/status/3337081136

<< Comment #1327 @ 20:24 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

general power down
they are all over the blondes now

<< Comment #1328 @ 20:36 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun

Power went out:

http://twitter.com/djwheat

What's next? An atom randomly explodes and kills everyone?

<< Comment #1330 @ 20:42 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #1328

do you even know what an atom is? :P

<< Comment #1345 @ 20:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1330

Ya know, the atomic bomb is aptly named.....

heard of it, yes? :P

<< Comment #1362 @ 21:15 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #1328

i wish

<< Comment #1364 @ 21:19 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #1328

but it just can never be in this awful, dark cruel world

<< Comment #1329 @ 20:38 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

LB Final
spart1e vs Cypher (thx for details qkcon...)

lolz

<< Comment #1331 @ 20:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fredwebel

Oh Hollenshead will be sleeping like a child tonight.

And I hope he never wakes up.

<< Comment #1334 @ 20:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

Fucking hell its down.

That girl with the tan was fucking hot, fucking nice tits.

Edited by nemecel at 20:44 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1338 @ 20:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1334

Oh the wonders of a, well wonder bra

<< Comment #1341 @ 20:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1338

Who the fuck cares, still hot.

<< Comment #1339 @ 20:47 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1334

pr0nstar material fo sho!

<< Comment #1335 @ 20:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio '

Don't tell me i waited up for a power outage and I'm gonna miss the finals which has in turn messed up my sleep pattern.

<< Comment #1350 @ 21:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1335

I was gonna [+] the Comment #1337, but then I saw it was you : /

9%

<< Comment #1422 @ 01:46 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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phz - Reply to #1350

You can get my 1337 [+] instead

\o/

<< Comment #1336 @ 20:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Breaking news. They decided to carry on anyway.
Spart1e is up 15-3 to Rapha on ztn in the 3rd and final match.

Edited by FarQ at 20:45 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1337 @ 20:46 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1336

OMFG, go spartaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!

<< Comment #1342 @ 20:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1337

Not sure that's reliable information.

<< Comment #1343 @ 20:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1342

i should have known :(

<< Comment #1414 @ 00:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #1337

hey congratz mate... 1337...

<< Comment #1421 @ 01:32 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1414

lulz !!

<< Comment #1344 @ 20:51 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xrat3d - Reply to #1336

seriously? In this case Spart1e has to win two times vs Rapha?

<< Comment #1356 @ 21:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (chello087207146201.chello.pl)

http://quakecon.quake-live.tv/2009/08/15/inte...-eu-vs-na/

Rapha vs Cypher..............propably

<< Comment #1361 @ 21:14 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1356

its spartievs rapha, djwheat said

<< Comment #1340 @ 20:49 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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koOma

I wanna kill some kittens.

<< Comment #1355 @ 21:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vxd999

http://quakecon.quake-live.tv/2009/08/15/inte...-eu-vs-na/

Cypher in the final?

<< Comment #1346 @ 20:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler

[03:25] <hunte4rrr> PONYTAIL KICKED OUT THE POWER CORD

:))

<< Comment #1347 @ 20:52 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Ryan2015

This Qcon coverage gets the cake FAIL as they never FAILED before

<< Comment #1348 @ 21:06 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou

http://www.justin.tv/quakecon

only this stream so far I guess

<< Comment #1351 @ 21:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #1348

to bad we missed the good part

<< Comment #1349 @ 21:07 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Lysis

ya justin link is working for me as well

***was working***

Edited by Lysis at 21:10 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1352 @ 21:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

now that stream is down too... which is cool :(

<< Comment #1353 @ 21:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Twitter: "Apparently the city is without power and #quakecon is on generator backup. The AC is not on backup, expect the smell to get bad soon"

Ouch..

<< Comment #1357 @ 21:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_

I missed my Saturday fuck for this....

they need more hamsters running!

<< Comment #1358 @ 21:12 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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wingz

:( always when it gets exciting

<< Comment #1359 @ 21:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr

FUCKING FAIL

<< Comment #1360 @ 21:13 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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juvenile delinquency

can't wait for the '10 t-shirt giveaways

<< Comment #1363 @ 21:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

stream is up !!!!!!!

<< Comment #1365 @ 21:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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juvenile delinquency

also, lmao@ymca, pretty much sums up the fail 8 -- )

<< Comment #1366 @ 21:41 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

I demand they throw babes panties to the public

<< Comment #1367 @ 22:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

OMG, BEST DM6 GAME EVER !!!!!!!!

<< Comment #1368 @ 22:08 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

rapha - spart1e @ dm6 - sickest game so far!!

<< Comment #1369 @ 22:09 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vicek

oh god, last minutes of dm6 were awesome
nice one spartie

Edited by vicek at 22:14 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1371 @ 22:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Unbelievable 2 games so far! As good as a final can get.

<< Comment #1373 @ 22:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Wheat: If it was quake4 that rocket would have passed through the teleporter, but its not! its quakelive! and were happy that....

HAHAHA

<< Comment #1383 @ 23:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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noblessus - Reply to #1373

I'd whish it were q4! :(

<< Comment #1374 @ 22:41 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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f0cus

fkn right!

AWESOME FINALS

<< Comment #1375 @ 22:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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InDepther

rapha most boring player ever

<< Comment #1379 @ 22:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #1375

couldn't disagree more

<< Comment #1458 @ 05:38 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1375

you obviously must be a "game depth" expert

<< Comment #1475 @ 07:26 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1375

I didn't see it but he was playing for money, if boring works then boring it is.

<< Comment #1486 @ 07:51 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1475

boring in comparison to spartie

Spartie was a step away from becoming a legend. He did 5 amazing comebacks in 5 straight games vs 3 different oponents (dahang, cypher, rapha).

<< Comment #1376 @ 22:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aaron

t9 is horrible

jesus

<< Comment #1382 @ 23:10 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1376

Yup.

Great airrockets by rapha everytime spart1e attacked him at the YA near MH, though ...

<< Comment #1438 @ 03:18 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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phz - Reply to #1382

Such a hard area to attack there. Either come from below through water or come from the side through a narrow hallway. I'm guessing that's one of the big reasons people don't like the map?

<< Comment #1384 @ 23:11 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1376

Everyone else's thoughts exactly.

<< Comment #1389 @ 23:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1384

Not mine.

T9 is like a fucking masterpiece compared to DM6.

<< Comment #1391 @ 23:20 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1389

You're bad.

<< Comment #1396 @ 23:28 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1389

No.

<< Comment #1397 @ 23:29 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1389

That comeback in DM6 was the fucking best. AGAIN, proof that the good old maps never fail to deliver entertainment. STFU about it next time you whine.

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1397

"STFU about it next time you whine."

Someone gave their opinion, I disagreed. Deal with it.

<< Comment #1502 @ 08:58 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1389

master piece?

dm6 took years to become rinse and repeat, that map is already at that stage. there was _no_ variation in that last game, at all.

they both did the same thing for 2/3 of the game. it's akin to tourney fucking 2 for crying out loud.

it's so difficult to attack someone when they're sitting on the YA near the mega like rapha was. two attack points, both being an utter nightmare and choke points. if you're lucky enough to get through and get a kill, you're left with next to no health and the other guy has a big chance of getting you back.

fair play to those who learnt the new maps but then they are morons for supporting them. props to noctis for giving them the finger. I'm for new maps, semi-decent maps but that is fucking urgh.

<< Comment #1607 @ 18:37 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1502

"they both did the same thing for 2/3 of the game. it's akin to tourney fucking 2 for crying out loud."

Blame Spartie... he had about 1,000 (okay a good chunk of the game) stacked opportunities to attack Rapha.

Two armor maps are dog shit. I feel like T9 is a little like that small Q4 map Phrantic in the kind of gameplay it seems to motivate. I need to see more big games on it though.

It's the little edge in tactical rocket shots (Rapha had a few that crept through into the center armor position that Spartie SHOULD NOT have been hit by). The little benefit from a few extra plasma shots. All the little stuff accumulates into a victory.

Plus, no rail. The king of all broken guns.

T9 > DM6 :)

Now ZTN... sure, that can be kept around. DM6 is just a bad map. It looks good on the eyes though.

<< Comment #1608 @ 18:43 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1607

blame spartie?

what?

rapha stood in the same place, if spartie chased thanks to the shit map structure he would lose his advantage with ease and the occasions he did chase rapha would easily run then put himself back.

the map is shit. and already very linear.

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1608

I guess we'll watch the demo when Spartie had control to see how long it took him to enter room (somewhat stacked) and attack. I remember yelling at the monitor at how passive his ass was. He was humping a leg somewhere.

I did the same for Rapha. I'm not playing countryman here. He jumped down on DM6, in the lead and with the map just about wrapped up and died, I was almost raged.

Until the demo comes out...

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1612

Edit: This is the most scatter brained yapping I've ever done, but I had a stream open : )

Yup. Just watched the stream on youtube. Rapha attacked when he had control Spartie didn't attack soon enough (edit: or good enough) . Case closed.

Watching this map again, Spartie was just a little too late committing early on, and when he did commit he couldn't take advantage of his advantage. = Worse play.

5:55 remaining: Spartie could have been on the offensive. He didn't. He's had the mega now, two times being in control. One time Rapha did some clever things to knock his health and armor down. But after the 2nd pickup of MH and getting the yellow, this might be a good time to try some attacks with a +40 health advantage and stronger LG.

Instead Rapha is able to wait and sit in that room and accumulate armors.

After Rapha picks up yellow in that room (too late Spartie) Spartie backs off but still manages a few RL's into the room. Too little too late. But he's going in the right direction, you can't let somebody sit in that room.

We're at about almost 5:00 (5:03?) remaining and Spartie DID commit, but is now on low health and trying to stack up again... doing this adlib, don't know what comes next...

Spartie picked up MH at 5:00. 4:50 Spartie has advantage again, but instead does nothing. He may want to attack again and kill Rapha but he doesn't.

4:30 left, another RL Spartie needs to try to avoid. A peeping shot from Rapha that add up, and take away Spartie's advantage.

5:30 remaining - Same thing. We're not even to the REALLY bad parts yet.

4:19 remaining - Spartie is doing what he should do, he peeped the "safe room" after acquiring the MH (but from a lower position with LG) came back and got caught off guard by Rapha in mid map.

I'm not going to spam anymore nonsense. The bottom line is that every little reckless mistake, whether it's not taking advantage when you have advantage (you got surprised, you let a RL come your way) - not getting the better exchanges when you have advantages or being too slow or hesitant on attacking the worse off player... Spartie got outplayed, and if you really break it down to the little tactical things... you can really analyze how or why...

Spartie at 4:03: Does not commit to the room because he got popped by a RL. Again, headed in the right direction but came up short.

3:46: Again, Spartie gets surprised by a RL from Rapha.

... ... ... ...

The map is just fine. Spartie couldn't take advantage when he had advantage, and Rapha could while at the same time surprising Spartie and tagging him with shots he wasn't expecting to limit the Advantage. When I say blame Spartie, I mean when he had control (MH) he couldn't take advantage and YOU say this is a bad map because of it? I say you're wrong.

Contrast the two in control. I say again: the map is an orgasm compared to that shit DM6.

Edit:

Notice how everything here was a consequence at the "decision level." Little tactical choices that can be improved and mistakes that can be avoided. Ask yourself after every frag: "how can this be avoided?" or "Why did this happen?"

This isn't a lock down in DM6. This isn't getting aim-whored by some fucker who's LG and Rail is simply better. These are bad decisions (in hindsight), and lack of experience.

All examples of a good map.

Edited by zalu at 03:22 CDT, 17 August 2009

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1623

+ for the match analyse, but I beg to differ on your map opinions, I think it is not very nice to be able to see your opponent on the map 3 miles away and have nothing to shoot with, this map kinda need the rg to be a success
besides the fact this map don't have rg, there is full of small corridors which effectively don't allow you to pass, even if you dodge the rockets you take splash damage, the geometry of the map is too horizontal and they should remove those small entrances/make them bigger (worst version of dm13)
the only think that saves this map from being totally crap is the bidirectional teleporter(s?), who add the element of fun and the nostalgia of hub

<< Comment #1393 @ 23:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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StywoO - Reply to #1384

Not mine.

<< Comment #1387 @ 23:16 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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dansen - Reply to #1376

i like it, seems very cpm'ish

<< Comment #1491 @ 08:04 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1376

T9 is one of the most fun maps to play in QL currently! Also the few games I saw from Qcon that map did deliver good games!

<< Comment #1510 @ 09:36 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Liefje - Reply to #1491

I like T9 as well! I think we've seen some great games on it during quakecon and I like how agressive the map seems to be. I hope it continues to be a major map in QL =)

<< Comment #1519 @ 09:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1491

Camping in one of the YA rooms is a good game?

What.

<< Comment #1625 @ 21:08 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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vamp1re - Reply to #1519

You see this strategy on ztn all of the time, upper ya has 3 entrances but all are serious choke areas. Leaving out of one and having your opponent chase you while spamming back is probably the best thing you can do when your opponent has full lock during a close game. Similarly, t9 has extremely quick turnover frags after kills, so rapha chose the best location of the map to defend his lead. Choked out areas exist on several of the competitive maps. Just because you don't value strong wits and defensive play doesn't mean the map is poor. Spartie chose awful moments to attack every time and paid the price. Spamming nades into the lower ya from the plasma area and 50h bubble hallway/rl area could have easily secluded rapha to one portion of that room allowing spartie to more easily predict where rapha would be as he entered to fire rockets.

<< Comment #1629 @ 22:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1625

Good observation.

I'll just go out and say: T9 (by Rapha) was some beautiful Quake.

Edited by zalu at 23:00 CDT, 16 August 2009

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Venim - Reply to #1376

i kinda liked it... then again its probably because its not the same map we've played for a decade

<< Comment #1377 @ 22:43 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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rupertt

awesome game.

wp spartie !!

gratz to rapha

<< Comment #1378 @ 22:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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koOma

OMFG WHAT AN AWESOME FINAL!!!1

<< Comment #1380 @ 22:46 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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^AME-

gg @ both

<< Comment #1381 @ 23:02 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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btl

First three matches were un-fucking-believeable especially t4 with the back and forth. You could really feel the desperation at times. Don't know if they could have scripted better matches artificially.

The follow killer command is awesome for video streams. I don't know if they did it on purpose or because they had both povs up there on the main stage but I enjoyed it so much more than changing pov at random intervals.

<< Comment #1400 @ 23:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #1381

actually they didn't have both pov's on the stage, it was follow killer for us as well.

<< Comment #1385 @ 23:14 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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xou

*phew*

12%

<< Comment #1478 @ 07:37 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #1385

Good work, Xou. Nice keeping match results up-to-date on the ESR post.

<< Comment #1496 @ 08:20 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #1385

just a small fix

3rd place in the open tourney is 'cliffy' not 'cuffy' :p

<< Comment #1497 @ 08:22 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1496

thx

<< Comment #1386 @ 23:14 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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FarQ

Superb final. Nice shout out to ES Reality from Wheat. It's a shame the king of comebacks lost his magic though. The closeness of the first 3 games was amazing, but it wasn't quite happening for spartie after that as rapha found his form and speed.

Also, why do all these quake winners look so emotionless when they're holding up their comedy cheques and surrounded by tarts.

Edited by FarQ at 23:16 CDT, 15 August 2009

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Anonymous (117.136.7.163) - Reply to #1386

actually rafa is more "king of comeback"
last year, vs jibo on dm6, vs avek on ndm9, vs spartie in athens finals, and ofc this freaking qcon

<< Comment #1406 @ 23:45 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1386

Theyre quake players, not clowns or rock stars, wtf are you talking about?

<< Comment #1415 @ 00:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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FarQ - Reply to #1406

'They're quake players, not rockstars or clowns', rofl, WTF are YOU talking about, numbnuts? They just won a shitload of cash for playing a computer game, not digging the channel fucking tunnel. You'd think they'd smile a bit more. Or is it uncool for kids to look happy in your world?

<< Comment #1585 @ 16:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1415

well spart1e was putting his hand on girls ass there

<< Comment #1425 @ 01:57 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (117.136.7.163) - Reply to #1386

why don't u smile ?
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/40581-SKrapha_...Athens_win

<< Comment #1427 @ 02:09 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1386

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1388 @ 23:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Aquashark

god hates euro fags it seems :D

<< Comment #1395 @ 23:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1388

But at least 67% of the top3 was euro LOLOL RAEPD AMERICUTNS

<< Comment #1428 @ 02:11 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1395

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1516 @ 09:43 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1428

There was more than one EU team in CTF? Anyway, I was using US logic, don't take it too seriously.

<< Comment #1520 @ 09:59 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1516

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1419 @ 01:01 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1388

God hates separation and useless conflict.

<< Comment #1499 @ 08:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1419

thats a [+] from me :)

<< Comment #1390 @ 23:18 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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phz

Awesome final. Definitely one of the most enjoyable I've seen in a while.

Congrats rapha, wp Sparti

5 * 10mins matches is a nice format.

Rapha's final charge on dm6 (with hardly any lg ammo) ranks up there with other epic dm6 finals fuckups.... (czm's rj, cooller's attempted air rox :P)

Edited by phz at 23:22 CDT, 15 August 2009

<< Comment #1392 @ 23:21 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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goodbye_world

did anyone else see that holy light engulf rapha when he accepted his prize money? GOD BLESS AMERICA

<< Comment #1401 @ 23:33 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1392

you should watch religulous concerning your stupid god bless america statement.

<< Comment #1405 @ 23:44 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #1401

GOD BLESS AMERICA

<< Comment #1434 @ 02:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #1405

FUCK YEAH

<< Comment #1472 @ 07:21 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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revocelot - Reply to #1405

AGREED =D

<< Comment #1547 @ 11:49 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Venim - Reply to #1401

trolled so hard

<< Comment #1394 @ 23:22 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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kru$h

congrats rapha, well played spartie

that t4 game was fucking nuts

<< Comment #1398 @ 23:31 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Vium

didn't expect rapha to camp more then lets say a player like stermy.
but with 14k on the line... zzzzzzzzzz

<< Comment #1403 @ 23:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze

xou.. fix the ca2 score...rapha spartie

<< Comment #1404 @ 23:39 CDT, 15 August 2009 >>

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Torzelan

Great tournament!
Apart from day one and the powercut tonight the stream was quite perfect in my opinion [as perfect as a stream can be; still want GTV to follow games that aren't casted]. djWHEAT living up to expectations of the fans and surpassing expectations of the doubters!

Final was amazing too, first two maps were epic. Rapha's playing style makes me automatically cheer for whoever his opponent might be*), but he deserves what he got so congrats to him and a fucking well played to Spart1e!

* With the possible exception of Av3k, and yes - dkt beating him was a highlight of the tournament :)

Oh, and only got to watch fnatic vs eMg + that overtime decider ending that Slasher casted, but CTF was really cool too!

GGs!
lmao@".us vs .eu" bs

<< Comment #1411 @ 00:04 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap

Grats to the US :) Still can't believe Fnatic lost to EG though..but next time! ;)

<< Comment #1412 @ 00:25 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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wch

What an insane grand final!

<< Comment #1413 @ 00:27 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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vorpal

SHOCKER, THE WINNER OF THIS TOURNAMENT IS A 22 YEAR OLD VIRGIN ~_~

<< Comment #1420 @ 01:01 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #1413

he's 20 this year

<< Comment #1416 @ 00:45 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

The instant Bush leaves, America starts winning again.

Fighting is like running and jumping... it is best done instinctually. Ascertainment is fit for intelligence, which is anything but ancestral. And breasts too.

<< Comment #1494 @ 08:17 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1416

breasts. yes.

<< Comment #1424 @ 01:57 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (117.136.7.163)

no 1 talks about how spartie beat cypher?

the proud game must be interesting

<< Comment #1429 @ 02:12 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

Some people think i'm a loner, but I have lots of friends. Jack Daniels, Johnnie Walker, Tanqueray, Stolichnaya, to name a few (i'm not being payed to mention them, i'm just a severe alcoholic). No seriously, how exactly do I operate the physics required to view with my eyes these Quake live matches? I'm not surprised by the results, aside from Spartie, who I have never seen in action. Then again, he is Swedish. I'm terrified of trying Quake Live. I don't want to jump through hoops, like a fucking seal at an amusement park. It's supposed to be fun, not challenging.

<< Comment #1430 @ 02:28 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

That's the problem though, isn't it? The people who make these games design hoops to jump through. You get extra points for jumping perfectly, and you lose the game if you fail to make it through. In the game, as a player, that works fine, but for specs, it's a fucking horror show.

<< Comment #1432 @ 02:34 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1439 @ 03:24 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1432

Same here with the "refresing cashe". I didn't pause it though or rewind, it just happened for some 2-5 seconds.

<< Comment #1445 @ 03:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1439

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1435 @ 02:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

I will tell you exactly what specs want.....

They do not want to jump through hoops, they want to be carried through hoops, by the best hoop-jumpers in the world. Is it possible to be clearer and conciser?

<< Comment #1640 @ 03:37 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #1435

We don't care about cs'ers who want to watch quake, if they don't like it fine, they can gtfo, they never last in quake, just suck out.

<< Comment #1436 @ 02:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Raist

WTB rapha demos.

<< Comment #1437 @ 03:15 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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cyan

Still... EU > NA.

<< Comment #1450 @ 04:19 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1437

NA won CTF & Duel..
dont bring up eu vs any other country debate, its completely retarded. nationalism shouldnt exist in quake.

9%

<< Comment #1483 @ 07:43 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1450

Plus for you, sir.

<< Comment #1539 @ 10:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Skin_limit - Reply to #1450

Grotesque statement... there also shouldn't be all these wars today, and mankind shouldn't behave like a bunch of greedy primates.

I think the dislike of euros against the US comes alot from the fact the US politics treat the whole world as if it was just their fucking colony.
The seemingly "natural" arrogance and ignorance of most americans just rounds up the whole image. I respect patriotism, but americans are so compulsively patriotic, it begs the question whether it's just a means to hide some inferiority complex.... "Beacon to the world" my hairy arse.

The intense rivalry like in quake is just an effect of much deeper cause.

Edit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY

Edited by Skin_limit at 11:01 CDT, 16 August 2009

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funnyb - Reply to #1450

yeah won't argue with you there, but were there any sponsored ctf teams from europe? fnatic just 'formed', and they were mostly duelers :p

<< Comment #1440 @ 03:34 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #1437

This time not though. EU clearly outplayed by US styleee in both DM and CTF. Credit where credit is due ...

<< Comment #1447 @ 03:55 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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cyan - Reply to #1440

I'm glad someone took the bate.

<< Comment #1553 @ 12:08 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1440

make the quakecon in europe and try again? :)

<< Comment #1442 @ 03:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

It's a bunch of horrible garbage, really... which is why today I work with the CIA (not really, and you'll find no records to prove otherwise). Specs do not just want the best in the world, they want the best to ever live. In intelligence, best and worst have nothing to do with anything. The sun will die, and with it, everything in the galaxy.

On a nicer subject... a couple years back, I did some surfing. It was in Mexico, a place called Sayulita. I fell in love with a Mexican girl who lived there. During the days, i'd go surfing. At nights, i'd get drunk with her, on margaritas. She was actually the bartender, which is like a perfect match for an alcoholic (or a terrible match, I haven't quite figured it out). Anyway, she didn't speak English and I don't speak Spanish, but somehow, we fell in love anyway. Goes to show, talking is over-rated.

<< Comment #1444 @ 03:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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cYmoZz

A fair method to compare EU vs US in this years quakecon 1v1:
Let's take the top 13 Americans and calculate their average placement and then get the average placement of the 13 europeans:
Average placement of US: 162/13 = 12.5
Average placement of EU: 146/13 = 11.2

So it seems EU is slightly better then US, even though I counted voo for EU, who drags down the EU's average placement quite a bit since since he went to qc only for fun and without preperation.

Edited by cYmoZz at 03:54 CDT, 16 August 2009

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Aquashark - Reply to #1444

stop being salty with bogus statistics for a video game ffs
americans won both tourneys, gg wp move on

Edited by Aquashark at 04:11 CDT, 16 August 2009

<< Comment #1454 @ 04:43 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1444

jeez, nerd

<< Comment #1451 @ 04:25 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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dronesoul

nerds :D

<< Comment #1452 @ 04:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Six16

Is there any news of VODS or Demos from the finals? I went bed so i missed it :(

<< Comment #1453 @ 04:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Jubei

I cant help but feel that the current crop of 'top players' are only in that position due to people quitting the game.

Watching the games just didnt seem half as good as watching players like cooller/czm/zero4/z4muz etc. Watching rapha was painful with his defence and horrible movement. I know that this is QL and not Q3 but still found myself wishing i could watch some of the oldschool players.

The only interesting US player there was DKT, rememniscent of watching python games with his aggressiveness.

<< Comment #1455 @ 05:07 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1453

Dahang was interesting too

<< Comment #1460 @ 05:58 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Jubei - Reply to #1455

Yeh i agree

<< Comment #1463 @ 06:26 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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rax- - Reply to #1460

Zero4, czm and cooller have played in recent years, they lost.. The top players today beat them.

Edited by rax- at 06:28 CDT, 16 August 2009

<< Comment #1587 @ 16:41 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1455

very smart player

<< Comment #1456 @ 05:23 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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bl4ze

when there any vod, i must time not much quick

<< Comment #1459 @ 05:38 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

LB Final
spart1e > Cypher (thx for details qkcon...)

cant you pull that one from the demo uploaded?

<< Comment #1461 @ 06:09 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Eviili

raphooller!!!

also noktiz and .ru crew next time!

<< Comment #1462 @ 06:26 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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reyu

Last nigh I stayed up again till 5 o'clock just to notice Cypher had all ready lost and the stream is dead \o/ gave up after that.

Also, fox shouldn't be raged that much now as he knows that spartie all most won everything.

<< Comment #1464 @ 06:28 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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technics

damn europe has a lot of catching up to do it seems :/

<< Comment #1481 @ 07:41 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1464

On what? Electrical Infrastructure?

<< Comment #1484 @ 07:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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technics - Reply to #1481

winning QCON 2009 :(

<< Comment #1555 @ 12:12 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1484

Or to make it fair, make qcon 2010 in Europe.. ;)

Edited by dem0n at 12:13 CDT, 16 August 2009

<< Comment #1485 @ 07:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1464

Noctis you see what u did???

<< Comment #1490 @ 08:00 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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noctis - Reply to #1485

like i could have changed the outcome of this, spartie played just sick vs cypher, didn't see the final tho but i guess it was as sick and rapha still won ;)

<< Comment #1506 @ 09:18 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Vapour - Reply to #1490

You easily rape both.

<< Comment #1511 @ 09:37 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1506

you are retarded. rapha would take noctis np. thx for trying though

<< Comment #1533 @ 10:45 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Vapour - Reply to #1511

My statement is retarded, yet you reply with the same style? You're quite entertaining.

<< Comment #1595 @ 17:30 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1533

had to put it that way in order for you to understand. retard.

<< Comment #1509 @ 09:35 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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technics - Reply to #1490

clearly its all ur fault :(

<< Comment #1645 @ 04:29 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Putton - Reply to #1490

u better stay in the dungeons :D

<< Comment #1467 @ 07:03 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

Gratz rapha & Spart1e, great games indeed!

Looking foward to the future tournaments with proper map pool and proper DUEL maps. Then I bet at any event = TOP 6 = 5 euros + rapha/DaHang.

While rapha is really top-notch, I don't think DaHang is better than fox, av3k or Stermy. I guess future events will verify that. Flame on!

<< Comment #1468 @ 07:05 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez

9 Euro's in the top 16, 7 Americans. Think we did better, especially it's on American soil and we had jetlags!

On a side note; don't get all the whine about the demo's, at events in other games they always come a few days after the event, if they come at all..

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #1468

"at events in other games"

Exactly

<< Comment #1474 @ 07:24 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #1471

How does that justify the whine? Everyone is saying the coverage is bad but it's fine, better than most events even.

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #1474

The whine is justified as there we're some important matches that weren't aired where they would be if there was a GTV.

Now about the other events and other games stuff. It's a silly comparison as instead of comparing to other event, one might actually look for technical reasons why the demo's aren't immediately available. A typical demo in QL is 1.2MB and the internet connection was available. So why the couple of days delay?

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roychez - Reply to #1487

In my opinion it's good there wasn't GTV. This would been a decreased number of views at QuadV which equals bad business.

Demo's can be uploaded, but then again, bad business for QuadV. Also, the players are to blame for this, not the event. Lastly, waiting a few days doesn't make me want to whine..

<< Comment #1503 @ 09:05 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #1493

There's no reason id couldn't make a GTV with commercial possibilities.

And again, there's no reason id couldn't make a central demo depot with commercial possibilities. QuadV has nothing to do with the demo's as they are only responsible for the broadcasting. And yes the players were the ones to blame for the demo's if you will. But by the rules, demo recording was required so for the organization to make it their responsibility wasn't hard. ESWC being a good example of how it could be done.

About people whining about the demo's not being there. I would've whined too if I weren't able to watch the games on stream due to whatever reason. But just like an important sports game I wouldn't want to view it days/a week later.

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roychez - Reply to #1503

They could make GTV work for organizers. The possibility for organizer to turn it off (as ESL does with HLTV) would be great.

I guess you are right about the demo's, but too whine and whine and whine about it doesn't help at all.

You can't see all football matches either, broadcasting stations will only pick one or two.

<< Comment #1517 @ 09:51 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #1505

The reason for only being able to watch a single football game is due to technical reasons and the fact that broadcasting on television costs alot, which are the same problems streams suffer. And that is something GTV doesn't suffer.

And tourneys shouldn't be able to disable GTV, heck tourneys shouldn't even want to disable it if they could exploit GTV like the could exploit a stream. HLTV and the current GTV version being examples that aren't exploitable.

The thing is, id should try to centralize the community. If an important game is live, I shouldn't have to go to ESR and go find out where stream is or where a GTV server could be found. This should all be on the Quakelive site. Quakelive should have integrated tournament hosting/demo playing/game broadcasting/profile stuff/boards/etc.

Whenever I log into Quakelive and Rapha and Spartie are clashing in the quakecon tournament, I would like quakelive to say: "Hey, Spartie and Rapha are battling at Quakecon, would you like to watch? Yes/No".
Whenever I log into Quakelive and Rapha and Spartie have recently clashed at Quakecon, I would like it to say: "Hey, Spartie and Rapha have played at Quakecon, would you like to watch the replay of this game? Yes/No"

These are all things that are perfectly possible, and it would be a question for id wether or not they'd create the platform and exploit it themselves or just create the platform and let companies like QuadV exploit it. Note that these things are technically possible and allow great advertisement exposure. Even better, if done right, I would gladly pay a small price for some of the services.

Edited by Sc00T at 10:28 CDT, 16 August 2009

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bl4ze - Reply to #1517

well said :)

<< Comment #1529 @ 10:30 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #1517

I can understand you wouldn't want tournament organizers to turn off GTV, but it's just bad for marketing. That's why ESL doesn't have HLTV at their event as it means more people on the stream, which means greater numbers, which means more to show the sponsors, which means more money at tournaments. I rather have more money and more tournaments in general, than to be able to watch every match.

<< Comment #1538 @ 10:55 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #1529

You are talking about a GTV/HLTV which aren't commercially exploitable, I am talking about one which would be commercially exploitable.

On top of that I wonder what would've happened to the stream yesterday if the amount of view had double, tripled or even increased by a tenfold. It was already stuttering a bit. I think the whole thing would've collapsed.

Edited by Sc00T at 10:59 CDT, 16 August 2009

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roychez - Reply to #1538

It can't be marketable, since tournaments can't use the numbers of it. ESL TV is so much more profitable for ESL than your version of GTV.

<< Comment #1581 @ 15:33 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #1540

why the fuck should tournament organizers not being able to use the number of gtv etc?
this makes absolutely no sense to me

<< Comment #1647 @ 05:01 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1581

Without the 'fuck' I do agree :)

I can't see why you could not use GTV numbers as user numbers just like in a stream or any other example similar.

<< Comment #1479 @ 07:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1468

It's all about where you decide to draw the line. If I draw the line at 1, then it's 1 NA and 0 EU. If I draw it at 3 it's 1 NA and 2 EU. At 4, 6 and 8 it's a 50/50 split.

Stop trying to justify this "x continent is better than y" bullshit. This tourney has shown that the perceived skill gap between NA and EU is non-existent. Aside from all that, this is not an intercontinental competition, it's individuals, and Rapha is #1.

<< Comment #1482 @ 07:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #1479

I was just making a funny, it's obvious rapha is #1 and the whole NA vs Europe isn't my problem, all I care about is that Fnatic wins events :)

<< Comment #1512 @ 09:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1468

are you stupid? you must be with a comment like that. America raped your sorry euro ass now face the facts. jeesus jetlag??? get a clue

USA OWNS YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

<< Comment #1528 @ 10:27 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #1512

"I was just making a funny, it's obvious rapha is #1 and the whole NA vs Europe isn't my problem, all I care about is that Fnatic wins events :)" thnx

<< Comment #1593 @ 17:13 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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roychez - Reply to #1468

Why did everything get deleted? Thought it as an interesting discussion..

<< Comment #1470 @ 07:11 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_

THANK YOU RAPHA!!! CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE THE BEST!! AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR SHUTTING UP THE EUROS!!!

<< Comment #1473 @ 07:24 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Liam

Moments ago:
[1:21pm] (Liam): oh so rapha won diddy
[1:21pm] (Liam): bit surprised actually
[1:22pm] (Liam): americans won it overall then
[1:22pm] (Liam): i bet there'll be loads of posts on ESR like "FUCKING EUROS GOT OWNED" because america won for once

CALLLLLLLLLLLLED IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT

<< Comment #1513 @ 09:40 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1473

That was fucking hard to predict.

Let me try : next time Europe wins, there'll be loads of posts saying "EU still > US".

Oh wait, it's already happening although EU lost. :(

<< Comment #1514 @ 09:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1473

WHINE LOL

<< Comment #1535 @ 10:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1514

http://www.answers.com/vicarious

<< Comment #1515 @ 09:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1473

Plus, see the good side to it : EU only stop bashing each other when they have the US to bash. It's a good thing, helps the EU identity build up !

<< Comment #1594 @ 17:22 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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RexCramer - Reply to #1515

This is how to make a peaceful world: All we need to do is to find some extraterrestrial life. Then we can all get together and bash those aliens! ;D

<< Comment #1477 @ 07:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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revocelot

GREAT win Rapha you did us proud! =D Also, that blonde in the purple dress that was standing next to Cypher was one of the hottest girls I've ever seen in a while. Oh yeah, deep down inside Euros know they will always be in second place (sorry couldn't resist). =D

<< Comment #1492 @ 08:06 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1477

Dude, first time Amerifags win something for ages, Europe still dominates. The RU and SWE races are still better than USA.

<< Comment #1598 @ 17:32 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1492

lol are you kidding you stinky euro? remember raph won eswc too. you're trash

<< Comment #1613 @ 19:03 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1598

And that proves? Nothing.

<< Comment #1495 @ 08:19 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Eviili - Reply to #1477

sry what did toxjq do to americunts on wsvg!?

<< Comment #1563 @ 13:36 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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revocelot - Reply to #1495

Quake 4, LOLOLOL! :)

<< Comment #1574 @ 14:36 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1477

just cause of the hill!

<< Comment #1480 @ 07:40 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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fuzz

Stream on djwheat website was very nice.

Thanks.

<< Comment #1489 @ 07:57 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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juM8o

spartie got the girlz despite rapha was the champion! :D

<< Comment #1501 @ 08:58 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1489

spart1e did look more comfortable around them girls :P

<< Comment #1504 @ 09:10 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1501

Even made both of them giggle! True womanizer.

Edited by Malice at 09:16 CDT, 16 August 2009

<< Comment #1523 @ 10:10 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1504

wtf

<< Comment #1525 @ 10:15 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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- Z - - Reply to #1504

[ - ] You just scared the shit out of me

<< Comment #1545 @ 11:34 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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zashael - Reply to #1504

Got the same pendant in Punta Cana :s

<< Comment #1590 @ 17:05 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #1545

Rofl,me aswell,Punta Cana Domincan Republic,.. keke :)

<< Comment #1664 @ 12:03 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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zashael - Reply to #1590

Great trip :D

<< Comment #1498 @ 08:36 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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douille

This needs the final's demos (or at least the VOD's :()

<< Comment #1500 @ 08:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Malice

Excellent event. Something about quake live that makes quake interesting again.

Should do this again next month.

<< Comment #1507 @ 09:19 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou

Mandatory new inline image! (just like for QkCon'08)

<< Comment #1508 @ 09:22 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou

Demos expected Soon™ at http://demos.quakecon.org/index.php?dir=

<< Comment #1518 @ 09:53 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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^AME-

!peak

<< Comment #1522 @ 10:08 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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CAREEM

the brackets were shit, europeans vs europeans and usa vs usa... (blame seeds), but anyway, sux brackets.

gratz rapha, i was hoping for cypher

<< Comment #1526 @ 10:21 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Carmac

I was very, very jealous when I thought how it must have felt to be in the audience during the final. The atmosphere in the crowd must have been fantastic.

I hope to see the same thing next year!

<< Comment #1527 @ 10:26 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #1526

I guess we all hope to see something like that earlier than next years Quakecon! The final really was the best possible way to advertise QL as an esport and Americans winning both Grand Finals hopefully helped push it forward over there..

<< Comment #1534 @ 10:45 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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psionyx - Reply to #1526

It was nice to hear marty on live on three (quakecon special) publicly acknowledging how they fucked up last year (thanks for sharing your experience from last year btw).

Unfortunately i guess there will always be a mainstream commercial agenda with such a large event.

someone has kindly put up a vid of this year's winners announcements here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcpOm-EU_6c

"everyone smile and look good for the cameras"... thanks todd 'subtle as a brick' hollenshead

Edited by psionyx at 10:47 CDT, 16 August 2009

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GreenBastard - Reply to #1534

nice

great little speech by djwheat at the end there, have to respect his passion for competitive gaming

also liking the dig at esr :)

<< Comment #1551 @ 11:57 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #1534

is there a video anywhere of john carmac on the quadv stream watching the matches? missed that

<< Comment #1561 @ 13:29 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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revocelot - Reply to #1534

Thanks. Cypher got the best girl of the three. That girl was seriously hoooooooooooottt. Seriously.

<< Comment #1537 @ 10:54 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #1526

Yeah looks like they read your post about last quakecon. What a 180 turn from last year

<< Comment #1530 @ 10:37 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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crv

thanks US for the seed....they got the ctf final they hope.

<< Comment #1543 @ 11:30 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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neb - Reply to #1530

actually they hoped it'd be EG vs fnatic, they tried to make it double elim in the top 4 so this could happen but due to scheduling they weren't able too..

<< Comment #1531 @ 10:41 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

demos? photos? videos? interviews?

<< Comment #1532 @ 10:44 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

How about some high definition footage of the matches? They used to upload that shit on Quakeunity and stuff. I loved the crowd "ooohs" after the frags.

<< Comment #1536 @ 10:51 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1532

like last year, it will arrive sometime around christmas...

<< Comment #1550 @ 11:51 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1536

They already have the keynote and some blonde girl with, really nice tits I might say, asking some nerds:

http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2919
http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2922

<< Comment #1560 @ 13:19 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1550

But her voice is like a power drill in my head...

<< Comment #1562 @ 13:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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revocelot - Reply to #1550

In that second vid at 2:35 she's interviewing the COD4 sniper!

<< Comment #1571 @ 14:17 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Magician - Reply to #1562

is there something wrong with that microphone or something?, or does everyone at quakecon sound like kermit the frog on helium?

<< Comment #1621 @ 19:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1571

No shit. Sound is definitely rigged.

<< Comment #1572 @ 14:21 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1550

A warning if you click to see the tits..they are not nice.

<< Comment #1582 @ 15:36 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1572

deliver pics of your gf's tits then.

<< Comment #1614 @ 19:05 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1572

What a fucking faggot. Now I know the history about your "super hot gf" and you rageing at people looking at her like a retard is not true.

tldr: Enjoy your hand.

<< Comment #1635 @ 01:41 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1614

lol..sorry that I don't get turned on by mickey mouse with everyday titties and a pushup bra. She is just a regular girl. Geez, get over yourself. The rest isn't even worth commenting..

<< Comment #1644 @ 04:13 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1635

Mmmmm. I second that.

<< Comment #1652 @ 06:23 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1635

Pushup bra indeed, still nice indeed. Post pics of your gf or gtfo already.

<< Comment #1542 @ 11:07 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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weltschmerz

Next time gtv please, even if it doesn't lend itself to pitching a plethora of ads and products like multimedia streaming does. This was annoying as hell.

<< Comment #1544 @ 11:34 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

gtv or didnt happen

<< Comment #1548 @ 11:51 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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koji

WOOT CONGRATZ RAPHA

enjoy that cash =)

<< Comment #1554 @ 12:09 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1655 @ 06:53 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1554

I demand you put some advertising between the rounds

<< Comment #1684 @ 20:36 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1554

some classy commentary by djwheat right there..

YOU LET HIM HAVE IT! YOU COULD OF GRABBED IT MAAAN.. YOU HAD A SHOTGUN HE HAD A........ ......... MACHINE GUN!!! MISTAKE #1

<< Comment #1726 @ 22:11 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1684

Yea I thought it was some random nerd raging first..

<< Comment #1556 @ 12:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Cohen

pls have you raphas config?

<< Comment #1565 @ 13:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1556

no

<< Comment #1558 @ 12:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Cohen

do you have raphas config pls?

<< Comment #1566 @ 13:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1558

no

<< Comment #1559 @ 13:07 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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c1

sync audio commentary wasnt sync and it sucks so hard. I wish I could turn it off. Except 2GD would have done the commentary.

Edited by c1 at 13:09 CDT, 16 August 2009

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KvaZaR

duel finals

+kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lOlN0cF00
[23:09:45] +kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqqHFOpx6qU
[23:09:45] +kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkMRLmUd64
[23:09:45] +kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADNlXwyEh00
[23:09:45] +kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdvNRPxaNnw
[23:09:45] +kvazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxtqkqaR11M

Thx to [CCCP]yarrr

27%

<< Comment #1575 @ 14:47 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #1569

rofl, tosspot on the edge of his seat last 5 sec :D

edit: ... of dm6

:S

Edited by carbon38 at 16:19 CDT, 16 August 2009

<< Comment #1603 @ 17:42 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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reyu - Reply to #1569

fuck me dm6 was hot

<< Comment #1615 @ 19:08 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1569

Epic thanks!!!!

<< Comment #1620 @ 19:28 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1569

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADNlXwyEh00#t=8m52s

I just love the way he made him fly above that YA $$$$

<< Comment #1630 @ 23:54 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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neb - Reply to #1620

same thing happend on t9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxtqkqaR11M#t=1m50s

man i wish you all could have been there. the crowd was going insane! i'm not sure what the exact number was but i'd say there was more than 1k in attendance.

Edited by neb at 00:10 CDT, 17 August 2009

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juM8o - Reply to #1569

gj, but i would also like to see what shit talk was going between maps :o just idiotic to cut vid down for example in the end of dm6 where tosspot was going totally crazy :D

<< Comment #1637 @ 02:37 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #1569

I think rapha did a little Cooller thing, with all the "SK-rapha, C'mon" "SK-rapha, C'mon" "SK-rapha, C'mon"
Trying to mess with the opponents heard, irritate him, and make him lose focus :)

<< Comment #1648 @ 05:14 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1637

cg_teamchatsonly 1

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1637

I think on quake scene it was lexer's favourite quote, which makes rapha pretty lame playing the monkey (this doesn't prove the elitism of quake players outside the game, anyway)

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 07:48 CDT, 20 August 2009

<< Comment #1713 @ 12:11 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #1569

all removed..?

<< Comment #1718 @ 13:25 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1713

All removed, cant find vods anywhere. This is such an epic fail, linked the youtube ones in local forums, pfff. if they were asked to remove them they can linkback to the new location.

Whats the point of taking them down while its the only choice?

<< Comment #1758 @ 00:32 CDT, 24 August 2009 >>

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Bob - Reply to #1718

.

Edited by Bob at 15:41 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #1573 @ 14:23 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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WhiteMoon

final demos?

<< Comment #1576 @ 14:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe

so the shotgun wasn't nerfed, and thus spartie got owned 2 times on t4 when attacking with more H/A and a RL above lower YA.

gg wp

<< Comment #1599 @ 17:38 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1576

man!, rapha is smart!!!

<< Comment #1577 @ 14:56 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

That's what it's all about - carrying these fuckers through hoops. Celebrity, pro-sports, political/military campaigns... people are too scared to jump through the hoops, or too unable, so what they do is climb on the backs of those who can make it. Sad, pathetic world, but maybe I have no respect because i'm a player. I can't relate to the laziness, inability, cowardice, or whatever it is causing the condition of the spectator-class. I shouldn't complain, because they do pay well. It's just sad though, that they live their lives on the backs of others.

<< Comment #1578 @ 15:13 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #1577

what.... the hell are you talking about?

<< Comment #1580 @ 15:32 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #1577

Ya...I think you might have posted in the wrong thread...that makes no sense.

<< Comment #1583 @ 15:50 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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wrl - Reply to #1580

You must be new to Jonesy comments. This is par for the course.

<< Comment #1601 @ 17:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1580

jonesy knows no threads.

<< Comment #1584 @ 16:21 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (adts116.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) - Reply to #1577

WTF ? :D

<< Comment #1633 @ 00:05 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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KOOLKEITH - Reply to #1577

But the problem is a real one, not a mere intellectual game. Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups—and the electronic hardware exists by which to deliver these pseudo-worlds right into the heads of the reader, the viewer, the listener.

<< Comment #1675 @ 16:31 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1633

with Jonesy it's all monologues

<< Comment #1586 @ 16:35 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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koji

theres a giant squid down here!

<< Comment #1588 @ 17:01 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1586

where is it

<< Comment #1589 @ 17:04 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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green

more importantly, can we get some pictures of the so called hot girls pls

<< Comment #1632 @ 00:04 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1589

you can find better looking girls at your local brothel.

<< Comment #1661 @ 10:57 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1632

"he just won some money and knew they'd be cheap. "
"you can find better looking girls at your local brothel."

Anyone else seeing a pattern here?

<< Comment #1680 @ 18:19 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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green - Reply to #1632

there was talk of some incredibly hot one with big tits

i leave dissapointed

<< Comment #1693 @ 04:53 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1680

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1737372#pid1737372
yw

<< Comment #1696 @ 06:58 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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green - Reply to #1693

AHAHA

<< Comment #1670 @ 14:16 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1589

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/516036/3277355/0/1173428827.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_X2sjPjJJdH8/Sc63X1_..._dress.jpg
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/484147/712443.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GEmghWIM9eM/SMMWGBM..._women.jpg
http://www.autoinfection.com/wp-content/uploa...yama-1.jpg
http://johnchoiphotography.files.wordpress.co...riyama.jpg
http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/19912.jpg

and here you could see them when power was down: http://images.clipartof.com/small/28649-Clipa...-Heels.jpg

<< Comment #1591 @ 17:09 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

What hoops do brawn-driven sports take us through? Running, jumping, fighting, and all the other things we needed in nature but are now useless. Brain-driven sports need to move humanity more towards a state of intelligence. The spectator-class will enjoy it, because video games have shiny, colorful lights. Besides, like with brawn-driven sports, there are many hoops such as glory, money and fame. The difference is, brawn-driven is yesterday, brain-driven is tomorrow.

<< Comment #1596 @ 17:31 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1591

WORD !

<< Comment #1602 @ 17:41 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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noctis

gotta say i much preferred watching the ca2 games over the t9 games ^^

<< Comment #1610 @ 18:49 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1602

Dude, I HATED the instagib games :)

<< Comment #1638 @ 02:41 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #1602

agreed

<< Comment #1646 @ 04:35 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Akuma - Reply to #1602

yep :)

<< Comment #1649 @ 05:19 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1602

I guess it's a q2/q4 thing for me then. I really enjoy T9! I can't stand CA2, even if it most likely suits my style better. For me T9 is like a more dynamic phrantic. Like I've said earlier, T9/T7 are both great additions in quakelive. I'm very skeptic with CA2/T6 of the new maps though.

As a sidenote, damn I'm bored with watching dm6. Same shit over and over again.

<< Comment #1660 @ 10:45 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1649

Prolly you also get bored of watching the same trees every day. The problem is not dm6 neither trees...

<< Comment #1662 @ 10:59 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1660

Thats not it. I do however understand what you mean. I really think that dm6 is not entertaining for duels anymore.

<< Comment #1676 @ 16:48 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #1649

I agree. CA2 is horrible, and dm6/ztn/t4 are so fucking boring.

<< Comment #1678 @ 17:13 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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noctis - Reply to #1676

go back to 3a then =/

<< Comment #1686 @ 23:21 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1678

Word. Not to be harsh towards two players who have achieved but, their hearts are on other games. You just cant hate dm6 if you truly appreciate Quake3/QuakeLive legacy.

<< Comment #1688 @ 00:52 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Snip - Reply to #1686

guess I don't then

because that map is shit

<< Comment #1690 @ 01:39 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1688

Shit or not its an intrinsic part of the game, random whine wont change that.

<< Comment #1698 @ 07:28 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1690

It's that kind of thinking that keeps games in the dark ages.

It may be a significant part of quake 3's history, but it's no more an intrinsic part of the game than some random dreamcast map. Quake 3 gameplay is what draws people to the game, and, if dm6 had never existed, nothing about the scene would look different today.

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1698

And its the thinking of people that believes "change" is always possitive what has the world in its actual state.

The map that nearly everybody that has ever played Quake3 online knows, is what keeps the game at dark ages. Meanwhile, your self appointed wisdom, out of any reality check or fact, tells you its has nothing to do with the multiplayer success of Quake3.

Long before i ever played online it was my favorite map, and i know many players who also remember dm6 as a special map that caught their attention. 10 years later it delievers a match like the recent quakecon 2009 finals. Those are facts. If it hasnt been changed already, it wont. Stop wasting your time through negation of what is, dm6 is the most important map ever in Quake3.

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 12:30 CDT, 18 August 2009

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Stev - Reply to #1715

Firstly, I didn't say change is always positive. I think unwillingness to consider change is negative, but that's not the same thing at all.

Secondly, I didn't say dm6 was what "keeps the game in the dark ages" (way to construct a strawman there); I said that people saying a map is an instrinsic part of a game is what keeps games (nonspecific) in the dark ages. I don't think QL is in the dark ages, but I don't think the map pool is fully developed either. ca2 lol?

<< Comment #1724 @ 19:53 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1717

Cant speak of ca2 cause i live in a land where there isnt a server with decent latency to join, so im mostly a QL illiterate. But the dm6 hate is getting *so* old.

<< Comment #1604 @ 17:50 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n

blablabla US > EU... blablabla EU > US...

As quake is the best game which was ever made, and as it was developed by John Carmack... just for that US > EU

But now :

Play the CTF in 5v5 (as we usually do in EU)
add a TDM tournament (with an EU dream team like : noctis, link1n, fox, spartie), and do that in EU

I'm sure that EU teams will have more chance to finish 1st :o)

<< Comment #1609 @ 18:45 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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hoens - Reply to #1604

That's one of the worst EU dream teams you could possibly say. The only person you got right was fox, and i'm sure that was by accident.

<< Comment #1617 @ 19:16 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1609

ROFL, you mean that noctis and linkin are noobs in TDM ? hahaha

Who are MIEL's players ? Who rules TDM in Europe (2v2 or even 4v4) ?

Who won the last Nation Cup TDM ? (France... with link1n).

It is perhaps not the BETTER team (we can perhaps change 1 player on my LU), but I'm quite sure to be close to the best TDM team with all these players.

<< Comment #1665 @ 12:06 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #1609

hoens comeback to #uscpmpickup
xoxoxo

<< Comment #1616 @ 19:10 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1604

usa won a 5v5 ctf in qlan2 or w/e it was.

Any ways its a natural human condition where we group each other into us vs them. Actually, usa does it between west coast vs central vs east players, europe does it within different countries, swedes vs russians vs other euro countries. We can't help but to do it. It's kind of even pointless to say WHO CARES IF ITS A EU > US or US > EU. Because humans care. It's an inborn biological condition.

<< Comment #1618 @ 19:16 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1616

Human Nature. Evolutionary Psychology will explain this.

BUT I think it needs to be pointed out that Wheat still said it as a "friendly rivalry". Nothing like: Our country is amazing, your country sucks. It was much in the spirit of competition.

<< Comment #1619 @ 19:18 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #1618

Same reason why that would even come up. so.. and also it's not just what wheat said its always that way in these things.

<< Comment #1624 @ 20:50 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #1619

Yes I know it's the same reason it came up. I'm just saying people shouldn't be getting all bent out of shape about it. It'll just make things more fun next time.

<< Comment #1622 @ 19:40 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1604

Well tbh.. its quakecon, in America.

This might be a team of very good individual players, but that doesn't automaticly make it the best EURO ctf team as well. There were 2 EURO teams at quakecon and both of them were formed just for the occasion.

I mean fnatic practiced maybe 2 weeks max. Half of those players dont exactly have a ton of CTF experience either.

Good EURO teams like yoyotech or LowLandLions could definitely beat fnatic at this point. Even on more than one lucky occasion.

Edited by Malice at 19:42 CDT, 16 August 2009

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stunt.us - Reply to #1622

fox played ctf a few times now at quakecon.

Fox dues and linkin know ctf. add in a god railer on to ctf2 (Stermy) what more can you ask for?

<< Comment #1691 @ 02:42 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1671

you could ask that they consistently beat the top Euro teams?

<< Comment #1642 @ 03:58 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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c1 - Reply to #1604

best eu team? iC or clan foe

Edited by c1 at 04:29 CDT, 17 August 2009

<< Comment #1651 @ 06:11 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1642

I never said : the "best team ever".

It was a proposition for a dream team with nowadays EU players.

You could also say QPO in you list (but it was a long time ago), and a little bit aAa (at the end of the great q3 period ~2004) which was composed by multidisciplinary players (TDM & CTF).

<< Comment #1606 @ 18:19 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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skint

spartie seemed to like the women at the awards ceremony!

<< Comment #1628 @ 21:39 CDT, 16 August 2009 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1606

I'd say he was grabbing in frustration

<< Comment #1631 @ 00:04 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1606

he just won some money and knew they'd be cheap.

<< Comment #1634 @ 00:48 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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neb

what's the record for comments in one thread on ESR?

<< Comment #1639 @ 03:15 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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wrl - Reply to #1634

As far as I can remember, it's the bottles of beer thread.

<< Comment #1709 @ 10:54 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #1634

Every big event has comments between 1000-2000 :)

<< Comment #1714 @ 12:12 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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neb - Reply to #1709

i know but i was just curious as to what the record was.

<< Comment #1641 @ 03:39 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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benjaminauer

great! americans have won 1 of a million tournaments! wooooooooooooohoooooo

<< Comment #1650 @ 06:03 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #1641

you must be new to quake. welcome

<< Comment #1643 @ 04:03 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Putton

YES, WE CAN ! :S

<< Comment #1653 @ 06:36 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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RMS

no interviews with rapha and cypher?

<< Comment #1657 @ 07:59 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

They're sure taking their sweet time with the VODs.

<< Comment #1658 @ 09:08 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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crv

why does someone remove the news with all the VOD's ?

<< Comment #1659 @ 10:04 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1658

yeah, wtf? luckily they're still on youtube.
man, it's so great to hear the games with the huge crowd cheering in the background <3

<< Comment #1672 @ 15:27 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #1659

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqqHFOpx6qU

<< Comment #1673 @ 16:00 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1672

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqqHFOpx6qU#t=07m50s

That bug is a seriously big deal that's going to cost someone an important match one day if they don't get around to fixing it.

<< Comment #1682 @ 20:25 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #1673

what bug?

<< Comment #1697 @ 07:22 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1682

A rocket hitting nothing but still exploding two feet from where it was fired and causing self-damage. I've seen it before with plasma too.

<< Comment #1701 @ 08:05 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #1697

Ahhh, now I see it!

<< Comment #1689 @ 01:25 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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roffo - Reply to #1673

wondered why I had been blowing myself up so often...

<< Comment #1663 @ 11:42 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1658

Maybe someone from QuadV is pulling the strings.

<< Comment #1667 @ 13:01 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #1658

there technically illegal, wheat raged at SK for uploading them there with no source.
pretty sure there will be HD VoDs in a week

<< Comment #1683 @ 20:30 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1667

why is it taking them so long? they putting adverts in or what?

<< Comment #1668 @ 13:01 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1658

Because QuadV asked.

<< Comment #1666 @ 12:15 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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ZeriouS

insane.

<< Comment #1669 @ 14:13 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Shardik

Demos ? --> Nah ,youtube !

Pictures of winners in your Frosties box soon !

............... America way of Quake.

<< Comment #1681 @ 18:21 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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Venim - Reply to #1669

Why not Wheaties? :(

<< Comment #1674 @ 16:28 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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bsk

Well done for spoiling it with the picture of Rapha.

Xou, you moron :P

<< Comment #1677 @ 17:11 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1674

Np bSK !

<< Comment #1679 @ 18:17 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #1677

Another [+] for your efforts!

<< Comment #1699 @ 07:33 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1674

He looks like the banjo kid from Deliverance.

<< Comment #1711 @ 12:04 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1674

considering the tight competition we got there it should have been more appropriate a picture with the finalist on the stage

<< Comment #1687 @ 00:38 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Snip

all I can find is the grand finals on youtube and stuff I don't care about (rage trailers etc)

anyone have a comprehensive list of the youtube content?

<< Comment #1700 @ 07:34 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1687

That would be useless, QuadV is taking down all the videos recorded from their stream and put on youtube.

<< Comment #1703 @ 08:42 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #1700

They need to be a bit quicker in getting the content online, rather than censoring the captures on youtube.

I have to say I'm very disappointed in QuadV over this.

<< Comment #1721 @ 17:45 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Snip - Reply to #1703

how much do you want to bet we won't even get half the good content that actually went out

probably just the ctf and duel final brackets

<< Comment #1702 @ 08:30 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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GreEn`mArine

could someone post the VoD of the amateur finals too please? I'm actually curious of their skill level. Wanted to watch it live but it got too delayed due to power fail for an EU dude like me :(

<< Comment #1708 @ 10:54 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Venim - Reply to #1702

Im looking for this also damnit.

<< Comment #1705 @ 10:17 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Akuma

Release the VODs and demos already damnit! :|

<< Comment #1706 @ 10:43 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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KOOLKEITH

Could you list who is on each CTF team because I have no idea who's on what team when they make up names like "Who Run It". I can't be bothered to try and look up that information on the quakecon website. Thanks.

<< Comment #1707 @ 10:48 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1706

I suggest that you CA-RE-FU-LLY read this news one more time.

Please take your time, it's VERY important : )

<< Comment #1710 @ 11:13 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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KOOLKEITH - Reply to #1707

Yup, I see it now. I guess I don't care who's there, I just wanted to know who won and I figured that information would be under the results. Could you put a link up for the demos that are supposed to uploaded to that quakecon website so I don't have to search through the 1400 comments to find it?

<< Comment #1712 @ 12:09 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun '

Release demos and vods.
You had exclusivity over transmitting the matches live, why do we have to wait for your hd videos first, and demos after? How much more exclusivity into sucking my dick you want?
You got your exclusivity already, mother fuckers.

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 12:10 CDT, 18 August 2009

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1712

It's so much bullshit. It goes against the spirit of the Q3 community and tradition. And demos and videos with commentary are not the same.

<< Comment #1727 @ 22:35 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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hughJ - Reply to #1712

Those sure were the days when one could download the demos of the brackets before they even started playing the next round. The internets are not what they once were, I guess.

<< Comment #1716 @ 12:32 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Larvi

Let me see those videos, quadv-guys...

<< Comment #1728 @ 00:26 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #1716

they're setting up qcon on demand, have to pay to view. just kidding.. but would you be suprised?

<< Comment #1719 @ 13:55 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (p4FF0A6A2.dip.t-dialin.net)

where coller? :(

<< Comment #1722 @ 18:47 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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griffin`

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RS1DOPR3 \\

all my demos from quakecon, expect for my games vs blt which i couldnt get the demos the next day since the machines load up fresh everytime you restart them.

edit:
for anyone interested in my quakelive config, it can be found at the upper right hand side, enjoy.

http://myeg.net/my_profile/profile.php?user_id=40

Edited by griffin` at 12:29 CDT, 19 August 2009

17%

<< Comment #1723 @ 19:30 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1722

Thank you. I wish all the players did this.

<< Comment #1731 @ 05:35 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Akuma - Reply to #1722

Thank you :D

<< Comment #1725 @ 20:42 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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revocelot

Spartie switched to a Deathadder?

<< Comment #1730 @ 05:29 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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noctis - Reply to #1725

yes... over a year ago or smth

<< Comment #1729 @ 05:25 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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a hule?

POV demos for CTF!

<< Comment #1732 @ 06:55 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (i577BAF4C.versanet.de)

would be nice to have some ql configs from quakecon. even at the clansites their are not available :(

maybe some staff from fnatic, eg, sk,(...) can bring the players to upload their cfg´s.

<< Comment #1735 @ 08:59 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1732

fox's is at fojji.se.
stermy's at stermy.com.

<< Comment #1736 @ 09:30 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Anonymous (i577BAF4C.versanet.de) - Reply to #1735

i am looking for dahang, linkin and cypher config cuz they use a similar equip.

<< Comment #1737 @ 09:51 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #1736

for link1n send an imsg here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=24305

should ask a Russian / American for the other two.

<< Comment #1739 @ 18:06 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Gladius

DEMOS

<< Comment #1741 @ 03:30 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1739

http://demos.quakecon.org/index.php?dir=qc2008/quakelive/

<< Comment #1743 @ 07:14 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1741

why would I click a link which has 2008 in it? =p

<< Comment #1744 @ 07:41 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1743

I was asking myself the same question: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1736227

<< Comment #1740 @ 18:22 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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daka

so no VOD's for download or?

<< Comment #1742 @ 03:58 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Snip

still no vods

between this and not getting to watch streamed at all I feel raped

<< Comment #1745 @ 07:46 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #1742

they are making calculations still on what's the best way to please the sponsors and to squeeze the maximum benefits of it, and they are thinking and thinking and preparing, lol
I feel sorry I spent all my money on whores so now I am not an millionaire anymore, else I would invest some money to bankrupt these lame almost broken sponsors first, then finance some real tourneys

<< Comment #1746 @ 08:34 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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LukKe

vods&demoosss plzzsss ...ashjdgad

<< Comment #1747 @ 11:49 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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stripy '

its taking to much time to release Vods tbh.

<< Comment #1748 @ 13:13 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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revocelot

Yep, they are racking up some major negative karma here. I am almost starting to hope they fail. There, I said it. =)

<< Comment #1749 @ 16:18 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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calleking

Next event is tomorrow and they still haven't released the VODs. Good thinking.

<< Comment #1750 @ 21:19 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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GrotesK

its obvious someones trying to exploit the community and make some $$$ the vods, disgusting.

<< Comment #1751 @ 22:14 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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revocelot

I guess in a way I can understand why they're doing this. NBC don't release tapes of Wimbledon or the NBA finals after the events. And any video that gets uploaded on YouTube gets removed. That's progress I guess.

<< Comment #1752 @ 08:26 CDT, 21 August 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #1751

"Progress"? Hardly. It's detrimental to the Q3 community spirit.

<< Comment #1760 @ 15:57 CDT, 25 August 2009 >>

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RabidDeathMoose - Reply to #1751

Of course they don't but anyone can record a live broadcast to view at a later date in the privacy of their own home on their own time.

<< Comment #1753 @ 18:14 CDT, 21 August 2009 >>

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StormSh4dow

They are waiting to release vods and demos until no one gives a shit anymore.