i like quake very much, seeing those small numbers of players is really disappointing considering the quality of the game. what's even more frustrating is seeing developers doing nothing productive to increase those numbers. what we see is a bunch of gimmick updates and tweaks with no real improvement in terms of new content and gamemodes. first off lets look at bf:heroes, tons of dlc is being pumped to the audience. dlc is not just so that ea can rip people off, dlc is there so that people who are dedicated to the game would be able to pay for more content of their favourite game thus prolonging their interest in the game. i am not playing quake for competition, i am playing quake for the game itself, once the game becomes stale and nothing ever changes i get very bored and i believe that there are many people like me, besides being competitive at quake is very tough. so why doesn't id dedicate a couple of artists to the game who would be able to constantly pump out dlc and coders who are willing enough to create gamemodes like ra3 and 1v1 ca, afterall quake live was created for the mainstream, we don't want another q3 scenario with 20 people playing the game.