Have you tried militia?

This.

Have you tried militia?

what we need is a new game

Or more support for the game we already have. Partially, that's coming, but after that we still need a few more big changes and constant communication for things like annual map pool rotation and so on. Should that happen it will be bigger than we could imagine, perhaps big enough for a teamgame scene rebirth.

Doesn't even need to be annual. Switch it up every tournament. Tournament organizers these days just follow whatever Quakecon is doing (I mean seriously, just because they put CA2 in didn't mean everyone had to...)

But there needs to be a system to get those maps into ql :)

No one will try to make a new game because you can't have good movement on a console pad.

This.

What most people seem to not realize is, chances for any modern PC shooter to get really popular are marginal, or even non-existent, really. The gaming mainstream moved miles away from the archetype of the nineties PC shooter we know and love, to the dumbed down console shit today's consumers eat up with a broad, oblivious smile on their chubby faces. It's not the game, it's the gamer demographic that's at fault. We should be glad that there are still big lans getting organized, i think it won't be long before the whole scene starts dying out. QL succeeded in somewhat revitalizing the stale competitive aspect of deathmatch but that's only the short term.

Short term only if we let it be that way. We are powerful beings, we just have to dismiss the negatives and spread the word. Do you remember the guy from Trainspotting the short one with moustache, i have a friend that is pretty much equally wasted and he has thanked me cause in the last months he has been able to reduce his intake of alcohol and drugs by playing QuakeLive and trying to improve. In spite of the damage that he has caused himself through his life his hes one of the most bright in real time stuff but suffers heavily from bad memory etc. After joining he invited 5 of his contacts and theyre playing regulary also. If each real quake fan helped spreading the word and making people join, quakelive can be long term. Private servers or not, premium accounts or not, GTV or not, more players always will help the game be alive.

PLEASE FIX THE ARGENTINA SERVERS 5 DAYS AND COUNTING
DEATHMATCH HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 5 DAYS
PLEASE MY FRIEND IS GOING DOWNHILL QUICKLY
QUAKELIVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR SOME PEOPLE DONT LEAVE US ALONE

IT WORKS!!! ^^

Fighting one addiction with another addiction :O . Anyway, it works! ;D

if id would give us a good reason, we could at least delay it from spiraling downhill farther than it already is. id has to make the first step. No matter what version of Quake anyone prefers, if they made a move to actually support us instead of shut us out, things could be different, even at a low monthly price.

Absolutely. But it doesn't look like they're too interested in saving their own legacy.

Other than investing massive ammounts of man hours in the framwork that supports QL. Now its mostly in a limbo state but with quakecon aproaching prolly good news are going to come, bad timing for e-whining.

It's not that you can't it's more it's too difficult to bother trying.

Mirror's Edge had excellent movement system that worked on consoles and PC. Whether you think that could be used for a DM game is another matter, though if you ask me, DM needs to actually evolve since too many of it's "features" are just bad design.

"usually, popular equals mediocre"

You should have stopped there :)

Everything you said after that is wrong :)

I agree it betrays weak thinking, but if you replace it with "when often, popular things are mediocre" the post seems pretty solid to me

means u guys agree wit the notion right? but are strayin into the 'keep it unpopular' area?

Just because popular things are often mediocre doesn't mean something being popular bothers me. Lots of popular things are excellent, it's just not a guarantee of quality.

I would love quake and deathmatch to be huge, but I think the model we have for them right now is just not that good. There are lots of basic assumptions about how these games should play that could stand to be examined.

stop crying about the death of e-whatever pls

this

Put quake rockets and jumping off walls in CoD4.