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CRTs that do 120hz at 1024x768 (153 comments)

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Posted by Lowbird @ 02:33 CDT, 12 September 2010 - iMsg

Hi guys,

As the title suggests I'm currently hunting for a CRT that will do a minimum of 120hz at 1024x768. I'm totally fed up of my Samsung Syncmaster 226CW with its 38ms input lag.

I owned an Iiyama vision master pro 454 that did 166 hz at that resolution before but if you could post any other models you may know of that do the job please post. I know there are some sonys branded by Dell that might do the job but have no idea of models.

Thanks.

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<< Comment #3 @ 03:48 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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phoon

viewsonic p95f+ does 120 at that res

150 at 8x6/6x4

<< Comment #1 @ 03:08 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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astz!

I use a Dell Trinitron 21" (P1130), it does 1024x768 at 120hz, no problem! I think it's the re-branded Sony that you're talking about.

Good thing for me is that I got it as a 'freebie'. Some guy was moving house and wanted rid of it, only had to pick it up! 30kg beast of a thing, great for gaming though. :D

<< Comment #21 @ 02:49 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #1

I actually got my iiyama off ebay originally from scotland. Cost a lot more than a freebie at the time but thanks for the tip i hear that a great monitor from reviews.

EDIT: just found one that looks in mint condition for �20 :) 23km away. Could be the one.

Edited by Lowbird at 02:56 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #30 @ 10:16 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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im a tree - Reply to #21

yeah the dell trinitrons are pretty much sony diamondtrons afaik(?), i have a P1130 too and it can get up to 180hz@800x600, pretty sweet considering it cost me only �20

<< Comment #2 @ 03:28 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Wot happened to your beloved Iiyama CRT?

Edited by clitsucker at 03:28 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #8 @ 05:37 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #2

Had to leave it at home when moving country.

<< Comment #4 @ 04:06 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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daviezz

i had like a iiyama viewmaster(?) some random number and it did like 180hz at 1024, cant remember the full name tho sorry

<< Comment #5 @ 04:27 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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douille - Reply to #4

iiyama pro vision master 514(22") and 454 (20"?) can both hit the 200 hz @ 800/600, so probably 180 @ 1024

but most of the ones you'll find on ebay/etc will be fairly old and have washed colors and lesser performances.

Edited by douille at 04:29 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #7 @ 05:29 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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daviezz - Reply to #5

thats the one, had 22" for like �15 and it worked perfect

<< Comment #14 @ 11:23 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #7

For �15? Lucky you! :(

<< Comment #20 @ 02:48 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #5

I think my iiyama is still perfect and its possibly approx 10 years old. But yes I'll ask the seller/giver how the colours are. I think a lot of people are gamers that had these high refresh rate monitors in the first place.

<< Comment #35 @ 13:36 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #5

yeah i recently bought one off ebay - the colors are fine but the image is really washed out and i cannot look at it for too long or I get a massive headache! (like 5minutes or so!)

hz is awesome though. it still does 144hz at 800x600 (i had to remove ping #12 though as it would not let me (windows7) override the EDID. Which is, if you did not know, a common problem.

Now I'm still looking for a second one. My primary screen being a dell trinition 19" but it starts to make a really high pitched noise at 120hz (only sometimes though :x)

<< Comment #145 @ 14:11 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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dynodeath - Reply to #5

I had one of those and It could do 250 hz 640 x 480...

<< Comment #6 @ 05:07 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

By

thuNDa

IBM P275@144hz for 1024x768.
Its basically the same monitor as the dell P1130 which i owned too.
The dell p1230 does it aswell.
They all use sony trinitron.

<< Comment #10 @ 05:50 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #6

1230 is using MITSUBISHI DiamondTron M2

<< Comment #11 @ 08:50 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #10

oh, didn't know, but now i can say that i like the trinitron better then.

<< Comment #9 @ 05:41 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

By

cYmoZz

I had a Sony E530. Worked fine at for 1024x768@120 Hz. I think it could go even higher, but never tried it.

<< Comment #12 @ 10:37 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

By

Lisk

Samsung SyncMaster 959nf does 1024x768@120Hz
I have it.

<< Comment #39 @ 16:05 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #12

<3 my SyncMaster

<< Comment #59 @ 16:08 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #39

959nf <3. To bad mine is starting to fuck up at 100hz, won't be long now till he dies on me :(

<< Comment #13 @ 10:44 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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waVVes

i have a pro 454 that i may be getting rid of very soon which you'd be free to have, but postage would cost a bomb!

<< Comment #18 @ 02:45 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #13

I actually have that exact same monitor but I gave it to my brother when moving country! Postage just aint worth it would have half a 120lcd for that :). thanks anyway mate.

<< Comment #22 @ 03:38 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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waVVes - Reply to #18

no problem :D i picked this up for �1 and it's just going to be sitting at my parents when i move! decent monitor though yeah :)

<< Comment #100 @ 04:54 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

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Anonymous (86.159.4.234) - Reply to #22

Where do you live mate>?

<< Comment #104 @ 13:46 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

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waVVes - Reply to #100

london but it looks likely that i'll keep it (rather than transporting my 2233rz back and forth)- sorry! :(

<< Comment #109 @ 05:10 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #13

This.

Why you getting rid of it though?:(

<< Comment #115 @ 11:09 CST, 3 February 2011 >>

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waVVes - Reply to #109

it's just sitting at my parent's atm! keep chopping and changing as to whether or not I actually want it :(

<< Comment #15 @ 11:25 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy

Own a DELL P991 (rebadged Sony, TRINITRON tubed) and that does 122hz @ 1024*768 and the same at 800*600. Not the best CRT by any means, but for �20, it does the job!

Just check around on ebay, then google the model numbers to find out the max horizontal hz, you remember them after a while too.

<< Comment #16 @ 13:11 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #15

Have the same model, it doesn�t run anymore stable with 120 Hz, just with 85 Hz :/

<< Comment #26 @ 09:49 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #16

What do you mean by it wont run stable? Does it just reset back to 85hz?

<< Comment #31 @ 10:53 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #26

Nah, first of all it doesn�t run with 120 Hz in WIn7. I could use the pin removal trick or a custom EDID, but I remembered, that even in Windows XP after a couple of hours the monitor was just unstable in 120 Hz mode causing the system to freeze :/

I can cope atm with 85 Hz :)

<< Comment #19 @ 02:46 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #15

I'm checking a local dutch site which is as good as ebay if not better fro this kinda thing, holland is so small collection isnt a big deal usually. I'm collecting the list from all of your guys input and looking for nearest and most decent looking one.

<< Comment #27 @ 09:55 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #19

If you can look for a TRINITRON or DIAMONDTRON monitor. The colours and general build on these models are usually a lot more advanced.

Models to look out for are: Dell P991 P1130 Samsung 957MB and the 21" version (make sure it's flat screen)
Iiyama 514/454/510/Other models that are diamond tron

Eizo/Sony/Lacie (electron Blue II)/Compaq/IBM/SUN/Mitshibishi (all usually diamondtron, really nice monitors)/NEC/SAMTRON/Viewsonic

Too lazy to get all model numbers etc, just make sure the screen is flat to ensure it's an older model, hope this helps!

Edited by Scarzy at 09:56 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #32 @ 11:52 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #27

That helped a lot mate, much appreciated. It seems its mostly Iiyamas going here generally for �25 which I think is a good deal as long as the monitor is still managing to get designated refresh rates.

<< Comment #34 @ 13:23 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #32

What model numbers are we looking at? :)

<< Comment #61 @ 02:44 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #34

Well I know from first hand experience the iiyama vision master pro 454 is great though a bigger 22inch might be better. a
Apart from 454 the iiyama models 510, 512, 451 (barely does job last resort) are seemingly available on this dutch site i'm using. Viewsonics, lacies etc are unheard of as crts though.

<< Comment #71 @ 14:46 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #61

Yeah not sure what it's like over there :)
http://www.computerdisplays.co.uk/21%20inch%2...eII_22.htm

I can tell you they have fantastic colour if you can get your hands on them!

<< Comment #91 @ 15:58 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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wata - Reply to #61

dunno if it could help, anyway :
iiyama pro 452 here, 1024*768@118hz, 800*600@160hz

<< Comment #36 @ 13:43 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #27

What do you think about the iiyama Vision Master Pro 451? I just one on ebay that I might consider buying :x

<< Comment #37 @ 14:28 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #36

it barely does 120hz at 1024x768 so if its old and not hitting the mark...if you use a res lower might be worth it.

<< Comment #62 @ 02:55 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #36

You will find this link useful. http://www.xs4all.nl/~etmriwi/pc/a902mt.pdf 144hz@1024x768 not too shabby.
Maybe someone knows what type of screen it is.

<< Comment #17 @ 01:06 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

MBuddy

Iiyama Vision Master Pro 512 160hz @ 1024x768 // 200hz @ 800x600

=> 120hz @ 1920x1080

<< Comment #23 @ 03:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

deotrip

i have a nec multisync fe1250+. got it from ebay for 6 �. awesome crt!

120hz @ 1024x768 no problem.

<< Comment #24 @ 04:20 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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therm

im currently using the Viewsonic P90F (20EUR)

120hz@1024

150@800x600

170@640x480

GG

+ great visibility

i mean the colors re so fucking crispy i cant believe it

no lcd can get u this bro

<< Comment #38 @ 14:49 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #24

ive just looked that thing up! looks really neat.. do u play ql with it?

<< Comment #40 @ 17:26 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #38

yes, i bought it specially for quake and i would strongly recommend this monitor to anyone

its rly rly good

actually i think only that stermys iiyama (dont remember the model name) can compete

colors re just wonderful + its pure smoothnesssssss

<< Comment #49 @ 08:10 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #40

ive got one for a Viewsonic P90f for approx. 35 euros. I just hope that it is as good as the seller says!

<< Comment #52 @ 08:21 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #49

its very very very very very good

<< Comment #54 @ 10:09 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #52

hehe i cant wait then :D ill keep you posted!

<< Comment #55 @ 10:31 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #54

ok im curious about your impression

<< Comment #56 @ 10:36 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #55

The last crt I bought off ebay was shit (iiyama VM 450) but that sometimes it is really a gamble, I guess.

The one I'm using at home (Dell P992) is superb in 800x600 with 120hz.. Indeed, very smooth and awesome colors but does not support 100hz in 1280x so I am stuck with 100hz on 1152x which makes things kinda huge :P

So yeah, I'm looking forward to this baby. It is going got be my second monitor because I travel a lot between home/my apartment due to work and all, and Id also like to play QL at home :X

<< Comment #72 @ 21:14 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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winz - Reply to #56

seriously? you can get a 19" CRT screen for a prize as low as 35� or something?

<< Comment #74 @ 03:50 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #72

sure?! just check ebay..

<< Comment #87 @ 12:01 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #40

do you use w7 and ati? i got this thing hooked up but i cant extend or even show any image on the crt but for a few seconds - it just switches back after like 2 secs.

i deinstalled the ati drivers - it works without a problem but i obviously cant play ql without ati drivers.

so yeah, i assume you have xp?

<< Comment #88 @ 12:56 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #87

yep xp + some old geforce

good to hear u got it already lemme know what u think when u instal it properly

try 150hz@800x600 in quake ;))))))

<< Comment #89 @ 15:51 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #88

well, i cannot "install" it properly because w7 does not detect it properly. my iiyama 450 or Dell work fine with w7 and proper hz.

It is the ATI's drivers fault and as of now this won't change because I cannot install windows XP on my laptop.

<< Comment #92 @ 11:06 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #88

okay, it works now. i had to remove ping #12 so it would let me do what I want. Fucking w7 is always a bitch.

tell me your colour settings etc. anything I should know. Words look a bit blurry/unsharp.

It is still not as good as my p992 (in terms of sharpness) but that could because it older/had more usage than mine p992 (which I nearly bought new)

so talk to me ,)

<< Comment #93 @ 05:42 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #92

i just set mine to max contrast and max brightness and then i adjust everything with my cfg

ill give u my exact sets when i get back home

<< Comment #95 @ 14:33 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #92

r_vertex 1

r_mapoverbrightbits 2

r_overbrightbits 1

r_intensity 1.2

r_gamma 0.8

r_ignorehwgamma 1

r_enablepostprocess/blooms/lightmaps and other noob stuff at 0 ofc

0x00ff00ff keel etc etc u know all the rest

+ as i said max contrast and max brightness in the monitors menu

gg

<< Comment #25 @ 04:39 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

Lowbird

Just a quick update one guy is offering a samsung for a crate of beer in exchange. hahaha

<< Comment #28 @ 09:57 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Scarzy - Reply to #25

Haha, classic!

<< Comment #33 @ 11:59 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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astz! - Reply to #25

haha, nice

<< Comment #29 @ 10:11 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

flowrush

<3 my Sony Trinitron 21" CPD-G520

<< Comment #41 @ 19:23 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

yikes

19" Sony Trinitron Multiscan 400PS.

Was free from a friend. :P

<< Comment #42 @ 21:09 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kg

Are any of these monitors you people are talking about in shops? :@

<< Comment #63 @ 02:57 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #42

I would seriously doubt it....I had trouble buying a crt years ago as it was from a shop. Doesnt win 7 have bad support for CRTs anyway as in having to remove pins to work?

<< Comment #75 @ 03:52 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #63

removing the pin still worked for me! w7 has problem with overriding the EDID but with removing ping #12 it works fine. also: this p992 im using here does not even need to get the ping removed - i just installed the monitor drivers and it works. its kinda weird. w7 is a bitch anyway when it comes to monitors!

<< Comment #43 @ 23:26 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

By

Vo0

Why would you still want a CRT when there are perfectly fine 120Hz TFTs on the market nowadays? Only reason I could think of is money..

<< Comment #45 @ 07:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #43

Well no shit.

<< Comment #47 @ 07:54 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #43

captain

<< Comment #50 @ 08:14 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #43

because ati does not support proper scaling (with black stripes) and i want to play ql in 4:3 not 16:9 or some other 16:10 crap.

<< Comment #111 @ 08:17 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

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Anonymous (80.239.242.30) - Reply to #50

and what about OSD on your LCD. Display Mode > Aspect in OSD on my Benq LCD solve it.. on ATI GPU

<< Comment #126 @ 09:33 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #50

And how in the world I played with black stripes with my hd4850? Oh, monitor osd ;p. Tho I doubt ati drivers lack proper scaling, never try it(played all native, except quake live).

<< Comment #142 @ 06:15 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #50

Works fine for me on linux

<< Comment #51 @ 08:20 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #43

cos they all suck ballz hard mr cpmaloler

<< Comment #58 @ 10:38 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #43

I wouldn't regard them as perfect yet, why play with 10ms input lag or whatever when you can have a stable 0 always.

Yes money is also a factor.

<< Comment #44 @ 06:22 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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thuNDa

why only 120hz and not 125hz?

r_displayrefresh 125
r_swapinterval 1

so no tearing

<< Comment #46 @ 07:45 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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vib - Reply to #44

127 > 125

<< Comment #48 @ 07:55 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #44

vsync = input lag

<< Comment #53 @ 08:33 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #48

can't expierence that with that high fps.
the gain in smoothness is worth it IMHO.

<< Comment #57 @ 10:37 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #53

ive always turnd vsync off! nobody ever told me to turn it on :x

<< Comment #84 @ 15:36 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #57

leave it off.

<< Comment #77 @ 07:51 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #53

my QL is perfectly smooth in 100fps 100hz, or 125 fps 100hz. and dont gimme that bs that its clearly not that im too noob to notice. its smooth.

no need for vsync.

<< Comment #78 @ 12:19 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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winz - Reply to #77

I've been playing the last 2 months on a 120hz CRT screen and I'm now back with my old 100hz one, and I can say it doesn't feel smooth at all in comparison.

Edited by *aAa*winz at 12:20 CDT, 16 September 2010

<< Comment #79 @ 13:39 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #78

maybe its the monitor? :P

iiyama vm pro 454 here, really dont have any issues with 100 hz 125 fps, no clue why but its just as smooth for some reason :>

<< Comment #80 @ 14:11 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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winz - Reply to #79

It might be.. but I doubt it tbh, I'd rather think the difference is noticeable. :P

<< Comment #113 @ 09:57 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #79

some people do not even notice the difference between 60 and 120hz. I feel bad for these people. Seriously, very bad. There is a definite difference between 100 and 120. Case closed. :P

<< Comment #60 @ 17:21 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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voodoochopstiks

Philips Brilliance 202P4, is 22". Can do 100hz at 1600x1200, 120hz at 1280x960, 150hz at 1024x768. Best CRT.

<< Comment #64 @ 03:12 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #60

http://www.iiyama-bg.com/product.php?id=HM204DT&lang=eng

1840 x 1440 / max. 94 Hz
1600 x 1280 / max. 106 Hz
1600 x 1200 / max. 113 Hz
1480 x 1024 / max. 133 Hz
1280 x 1024 / max. 133 Hz
1024 x 768 / max. 177 Hz
800 x 600 / max. 200 Hz
640 x 480 / max. 200 Hz

better crt!

<< Comment #65 @ 06:58 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (195.148.98.139)

If your monitor can do 120 Hz on a given res it's likely it can do 125 Hz. If the reason you want 120 Hz crt is quake then you might as well get powerstrip or some other software capable of creating custom modes (because 125 Hz can't be used with a simple r_displayrefresh command).

Surely 125 Hz and 125 FPS is better than 125 fps and 120 Hz.

<< Comment #66 @ 07:18 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #65

there would be tearing if one uses the same refresh rate and fps.

<< Comment #67 @ 07:30 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #66

wouldn't it be the other way around, e.g. 120hz@125fps?

<< Comment #68 @ 09:16 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Pushpabon - Reply to #67

Exactly. It's completely eliminated with vsync though and since 125 fps / 125 hz sync it'll be quite smooth as opposed to lmao 60 hz vsync on LCDs.

<< Comment #69 @ 11:06 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

By

What manufacturers are still producing new CRT?

<< Comment #73 @ 21:19 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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winz - Reply to #69

Like.. no one? I think.

<< Comment #76 @ 04:05 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #73

what a pity, I really want a new CRT....

<< Comment #70 @ 12:15 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird

I've narrowed my search down to 2 candidates due to the seller being within 3kms distance away. He is looking for �60 for both or �35 each. I'm thinking of offering a lot lower...

So which do I go for the Iiyama vision master pro 514 or Eizo T966?

I can find exact specs on the iiyama and its refresh rates are impressive but im sure the eizos are too.

Edited by Lowbird at 12:18 CDT, 15 September 2010

<< Comment #81 @ 15:09 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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browser - Reply to #70

well compare the stats
if theyre both about equal id say
u take the eizo because those are really quality built and usually super expensive when bought newly
/e:
after 3 secs of google it tells me the eizo does 80hz at 2048
/e2:
to me it seems like the iilyama or whatevr does better with the hertz values. unsurprisingly
id still go with the eizo

Edited by browser at 15:19 CDT, 16 September 2010

<< Comment #82 @ 15:25 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #81

or buy them both :>

<< Comment #83 @ 15:27 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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browser - Reply to #82

yes and run them in dual modeeeee

<< Comment #105 @ 18:16 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #83

And break your desk :D

<< Comment #85 @ 15:37 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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f0cus

Man I'm glad I got just about the last CRT newegg ever carried.

NEC Multisync FE992
<3 that thing, though I do like my Samsung 226bw 22" lcd for single player gaming.

Dual display ftw.

<< Comment #86 @ 12:15 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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ischju

I found out that mine does 100hz at 1280x960 which, however; is a resolution that in windows7 is not supported so I had to find a way to force the resolution into it :P

I found a way to edit the registry and let me choose it:

Here my GFX:

Video controller 1) ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (Processor: ATI display adapter (0x9480)), 1GB, 1280x960x32, 99Hz, driver version: 8.762.0.0

Here guide:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/5800549-post65.html

edith: actually crack found the thread :P

Edited by ischju at 12:45 CDT, 17 September 2010

<< Comment #90 @ 15:56 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

By

tourist

any trinitron crt duh

<< Comment #94 @ 06:53 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

By

Anonymous (193.213.106.63)

CRT is superior technology. 120hz LCD's are blury as shit when playing fps games in comparison.

I own both a highend 22" diamondtron CRT (that barely starts anymore) and a alienware 120hz LCD.

My biggest complaints with 120hz LCD is the terribad viewing angles, 16:9 aspect ratio and inferior image quality.

<< Comment #96 @ 22:27 CDT, 14 October 2010 >>

By

zeroql

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=952788

<< Comment #97 @ 04:09 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

By

Anonymous (99.246.5.150)

I have an LG Flatron 915 FT plus

1600 x 1200 @ 85 Hz
1280 x 1024 @100 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 130 Hz
800 x 600 @170 Hz
640 x 480 @ 200 Hz

... I didn't even realize it went above 85hz until today.

<< Comment #98 @ 06:33 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Oh I regret you never feel silky quake before.

<< Comment #99 @ 11:34 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #98

oh but i have had my taste in q3 with 200hz and ive also clitsucked

<< Comment #101 @ 05:22 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

By

crea* '

It is now a time that you can get the best crt almost for free.

I would chose no bigger then 21", preferably 19" because else you will need a gigantic desk and muscles like cooller to lift it :p

<< Comment #102 @ 06:47 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #101

I did get an iiyama pro 454 for free (excluding some taxi fee), 19' perfect. Someone just disposed it...

<< Comment #103 @ 08:45 CST, 22 November 2010 >>

By

slunge

my 21" lacie elctron blue 2 does 100 @ 1600x1200 i believe and 150 or so at 1024 (same as what i play at).

<< Comment #106 @ 04:17 CST, 23 November 2010 >>

By

flowrush

Sony CPD-G520 :)

<< Comment #107 @ 04:51 CST, 23 November 2010 >>

By

Kaide

Nokia Multigraph 446xpro ! :D

<< Comment #108 @ 20:01 CST, 1 February 2011 >>

By

per1klez

Anyone know the difference between iiyama vision master pro 454 and 451? other than the name it looks like the specs are virtually the same.

<< Comment #110 @ 05:47 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

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Nope if you go for high refresh rate on highest resolution get the 454 model.

Vision Master Pro 451

H Freq/ V Freq: 30-115 / 50-180

Vision Master Pro 454

H Freq/ V Freq: 30-130 / 50-200

Edited by clitsucker at 05:47 CST, 2 February 2011

<< Comment #112 @ 08:26 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #110

Ah, thanks.

<< Comment #114 @ 09:58 CST, 2 February 2011 >>

By

ischju

I want to buy a brand new crt. Not been used before so I can continue to use it for the next 10 years. xD

<< Comment #116 @ 12:57 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

By

zoot

Would this monitor be worth buying? :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...518wt_1001

<< Comment #117 @ 13:57 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

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mokuh - Reply to #116

Yes it is. My Dell P1130 has similar specs (hsync 130 khz) and can do 150hz at 1280*800.

<< Comment #118 @ 14:39 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

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zoot - Reply to #117

not sure if I wanna get this or buy a 120hz LCD where i can play at 1680 x 1050

does resolution have an impact on gameplay?

<< Comment #119 @ 15:43 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

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mokuh - Reply to #118

Yes, with a high resolution, the feeling is different because you are able to move across more pixels (can really be noticed on small moves), but some people still prefer low resolutions because they feel it more reactive.

Also, be careful that your mouse has enough dpi for the resolution you want : http://www.phoon.us/mouse/

And I'd go with the crt. Cheaper and better ^^ (if you have enough space).

<< Comment #121 @ 18:30 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

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zoot - Reply to #119

i kinda want both the CRT and LCD just to see the difference xD

surely these CRT's will go up in value in the future anyway??

<< Comment #123 @ 20:50 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

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mokuh - Reply to #121

Well, i can tell that any LCD will always be blurrier than a CRT. They best have 2ms response time (without even mention input lag), while CRTs have 0ms and 0 input lag. The only thing that would make you prefer a LCD over a CRT is the space taken.

And for your question, I don't think so. It's only good for gamers or graphic designers that can't afford a good LCD, and it's just a matter of time before OLED show up. When they will, it will be the end of good old trusty CRTs :'(

You better get one before it's too late.

<< Comment #124 @ 04:48 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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zoot - Reply to #123

I was about to buy one of the CRT's, then I noticed that it is a B-grade unit. I.e. it has been repaired.

I think I'll pass on it and save the pennies for a LCD hehe, seems like the days of the CRT may be coming to an end

<< Comment #128 @ 18:56 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #124

As the owner of two second hand 21 inch flatscreen CRTs I suggest you take the plunge. Mine are both around 10 years old and still going strong. I would recommend the Trinitrons especially.

<< Comment #130 @ 06:29 CDT, 6 May 2011 >>

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zoot - Reply to #128

where on earth can i get drivers for the IBM CPD-220?? :S Honestly got no idea how to make it compatible with windows 7... I can't make it run at 120hz for some reason

<< Comment #134 @ 13:07 CDT, 24 May 2011 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #130

i got my dell p1130 fully workin in win7 x64, using the HP P1230 drivers.
maybe they work for ur monitor too.

<< Comment #140 @ 16:41 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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Ebracus - Reply to #130

Did you get it running at 120hz? Thinking about getting one of these myself ,would you recommend it ?

<< Comment #149 @ 19:47 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #140

I found the latest version of Powerstrip works nicely for my CRTs (got three now) in Windows 7. I couldn't find any other way to force the refresh rates I was after.

Edited by maltyplaya at 19:48 CDT, 31 May 2011

<< Comment #122 @ 20:29 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

By

cumrag - Reply to #121

not if they're fucking blurry

<< Comment #120 @ 15:49 CDT, 1 May 2011 >>

By

r1ddler

mitsubishi diamond pro 2070sb here

running 120hz at 1280 x 1024

got it for 15�, iz fine if you have lots of room, it really is huge:p

Edited by r1ddler at 15:50 CDT, 1 May 2011

<< Comment #125 @ 06:36 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

By

vinkieee

i have a iiyama 454 but cant find drivers for it..

i use windows xp 64 bit...

<< Comment #127 @ 18:20 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (90.35.39.128) - Reply to #125

here you go :)

http://www.multiupload.com/1DCF7FQU1T

<< Comment #129 @ 06:20 CDT, 3 May 2011 >>

By

vinkieee - Reply to #127

thx

<< Comment #131 @ 01:03 CDT, 17 May 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (67.170.131.17)

What CRT monitors can do 1024x768@200hz? Any chance any one here might know?

Thank you

<< Comment #133 @ 11:53 CDT, 24 May 2011 >>

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matuka - Reply to #131

Doubt that theres any out there that could do that res at 200hz.

<< Comment #132 @ 07:28 CDT, 24 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (91.5.207.60)

Just got a brand new(!) 22" Vision Master Pro 512 and a brand new(!) 19" Medion MD 1998. Finally all this trouble with lcds ends: no vsync / tearing shit no inputlag and superior image quality. And i think this is the way it should be. Grab yourself a crt while you can, lcds are just crap vs crt when it comes to gaming on higher quality.

<< Comment #135 @ 03:23 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.236.13.7)

1280x1024 125 hz vsynced best experience ever (vision master pro 514)
___
hT

<< Comment #136 @ 06:47 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (99.14.135.58) - Reply to #135

Why? I'm a bit disappointed that I can't get my sony fw900 at that hz. It seems I can only do 1280x1024@100hz.

<< Comment #138 @ 07:44 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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vib - Reply to #135

vsync is shit : o )

<< Comment #141 @ 17:09 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

By

clitsucker - Reply to #135

1024x768 @ 125 hz vsynced here yeeeeee

<< Comment #144 @ 09:34 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #135

is your screen even in the 5:4 format as the resolution is with 1280x1024 ?

<< Comment #146 @ 14:50 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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vib - Reply to #144

I would guess he has a 4:3 screen so he would be better of using 1280x960

<< Comment #147 @ 15:13 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #146

that's what i meant.

<< Comment #148 @ 17:43 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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vib - Reply to #147

I know ; )

<< Comment #137 @ 07:43 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (88.159.104.188)

i've a iiyama HM204D DT which could do 200hz but only @ 800x600 or lower, its even possible to use 240hz @ 460x680 xD
1024x768 @ 150hz seems to fit the best for me (1152x864 @ 150hz is also possible)

<< Comment #139 @ 10:11 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (90.35.102.117) - Reply to #137

your monitor can do 1024x768 @ 160hz actualy mate ^_^

<< Comment #143 @ 06:44 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

By

Daddy_

samsung syncmaster 765MB, with driver

<< Comment #150 @ 21:40 CDT, 14 June 2012 >>

By

badugi

2 years later, im interested in buying the iiyama 454 or 514, anyone interested in selling it? PM if willing, I'll even pay for international shipping if outside US

<< Comment #151 @ 22:35 CDT, 14 June 2012 >>

By

Freiya

Pretty much every 19" / 21" pro-Trinitron / Diamondtron.

<< Comment #152 @ 17:04 CDT, 9 July 2012 >>

By

badugi

I have the HP P1230 is there any way to force 200hz on this monitor? it's a diamondtron styled monitor.

<< Comment #153 @ 18:54 CDT, 9 July 2012 >>

By

whisp3r

I have a LaCie electronblue 22. Actually it would be a monitor for photo editing but works well for QL.

Here some specs ;) ec1.images-amazon.com/media/i3d/01/A/man-migrate/MANUAL000013499.pdf page 8

Edited by krole at 19:27 CDT, 9 July 2012

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