Great!

A side question, anyone knows when will carmac release ESL classics episode 3?

It'll come bundled with ESR Uncut ESWC 2004 on a bonus disc in the Duke Nukem Forever special edition package :D

OMG :/

ESR ESWC 2003 uncut was the shit

EDIT: Re-record with a better config, it almost ruins the whole video, the quake music in the background, smoke, weird crosshair, picmip.. Maybe you should get the lvlup config or something similar

Watched it. Again, very nice insights by rapha.

But...

Why does it sounds weired when they were talking about how rapha and coolleR know each other very well? They read each other's mind out, like some sort of couple, or gayish.

I didn't get that feeling. However, the choice of music is interesting

"The Buzzcocks - Why can't I touch it"

I guess that's why they call it Yomi.

Good stuff!

Since you're going to do this weekly, I'd recommend a change for the Quake Live config you're using.

- Change the crosshair to something simple, like the + one for example.
- Use higher graphic settings (r_picmip 0, 32 bit textures, etc). Since you're not streaming this video live, you can make it look better visually for everyone (video compression would need to be slightly less extreme)
- Use the enemy model "keel" (cg_forceenemymodel keel/bright) more people use this model, it's more common, etc.
- Turn off smoke (cg_smokeRadius_RL "0" , cg_smokeRadius_GL "0" , cg_smoke_SG "0")
- Turn off muzzle fash (cg_muzzleFlash "0")

This will make the video look a bit cleaner, more visually pleasing too.

Thanks :D

picmip 0 may not be good for this coz after video compression it may turn out to be a mess and you cant see things.

SK|TheSlaSH 35 minutes ago +1 thumbs
we are working on that. Next two releases will be this config though, could be even next 5, but after that you will get the change...

woot?!

wait... Next 5?!

insane stupidity...

huh? what's so hard about taking the audio out and simply recapturing the demo?

This kind of reminds me of what Todd Hollenshead said to a guy on the stage at Quakecon this year: "It makes the developers cry when you play it in fugly mode."

I agree, at ANY event, if you're showing a game like Quake to people on a projectory, NEVER picmip it. I understand it's less overhead to do it (you can stream from the same PC as you show on the projectory) but it makes the game look so terrible =\

Nice, get a decent config next time though.

also we need item timers in demos.

thinking about it, since you don't do any slowdowns etc from what I've seen, you could just do everyone a favour and capture the demo again.

wow, I loved this so much! It is definitely going to help me to analyze more dm13 games!

I dont understand audio englsih very well. But i can read well, then u could write some intersting spots the Rapha´s dm13 analysis, please? I want know what his hints.

Thanks in advance!

ill do it later. ok? maybe tomorrow. ill write it all down.

Until 2:35

Dude: So here we go. It is dm 13 you are facing cooler all time opponent. How was the spawn?

Rapha: The spawn off the start was okay em, he actually got the more favorable spawn because he gets rockets, ya, ra and then he pulls a gutsy move to rj to the side. So he has got weapons and what not. BUt I am okay because I grabbed mega, I get some shards and I got a rocket that I can defend myself with. So I know (.) Okay since he has shaft I don't really want to out to the middle - just yet. But now that I have got one, I can defend myself and I can set up for the next items that are coming up.

Dude: So the next big point for you was to get the timing on the red (which you use did, right?

Rapha: mh. (as in yes) which is why I knew that I could dive for the mega while I heared him getting the red.

Dude: Which leaves you enough time to grab it, go there, and get out.

Rapha: So right now he is probably around 100 200 so I gotta be careful. He manages to read me very well, so he sneaks up from behind but I managed to escape. So, I am in a bad situation but I've got positioning and I can just make sure okay leave myself an escape route. Just try to collect some items as I can to built myself up. And then I can find any opportunity to attack.

Dude: Not only did you have positioning, you also had timing - red is up - mega is up. So you give him mega to to for red.

Rapha: Yeah, but I barely survive

Dude: 8Hp - yeah that is not too much.

Rapha: And here is camping out and I knew it. I also knew that he would be easy to hit with plasma where I thought where he was. So it was alright. I did a ton of damage. But now he has got positioning on all the items - he had rocket jumped up to the other yellow. So now I need some more rockets. So either A I wait until he gets the lg - which he does, he picks it up now - and now it is a battle for the red. And I steal it again


Dude Was that a mistake by cooller? Fighing you instead of focusing on the red?

... to be continued.

2:35 - 5.00

Rapha: I think yes. If he did not turn and try and do damage - he could have fallen to the red - no problem and taken it again. So, but yeah here I knew that he was vulnerable - So I am gonna do as much damage as possible. Because if I die he is going to be very low and he cannot do anything off of it which is exactly what happens. If you watch the VOD you will see that Cooller only had 4 health at the end of the battle. So he grabs the yellow and maybe up to 75 hp now. I get red and I am in good positioning for the mega which is coming right up. Even though I died - I did so I could gain control. So now I know okay he probably has the other yellow now. so he is maybe at a 100 health and 100 armor. So now I need to do a little damage to set him off so he can't trap me at red

Dude: How often does it happen in middle that you pull out the shaft and you can't even reach him?

Rapha: Quite often. There are a lot of back and forth dancing battle which is why I sometimes pull to the machine gun until I know for sure that I can do lightning gun damage.

And Now you are in a good position. You have 180 hp and 120 armor plus know when mega comes up plus you know where he was.

Rapha: Nods. So what I am trying to do is cut him off on the map. So I'm looking for him maybe he will be in odd places because he is out of control - so he tries to hide from me or something. [...]
Which is exactly what happens and I catch him at the shards and pick up my first kill

Dude: two well placed rockets that do the job.

Rapha: Right here based of of his spawn I was able to grab yellow. I knew I could go for this yellow and get back to red all before he could grab anything.

Dude: So pretty much no armor for him to take.

Rapha: yeah. And right here - he did so much damage for the plasma gun which is very important because in all honestly with his mistakes I should have gotten out with 350 (health and armor). And here he somehow manages to survive of three rockets of the spawn. And he did a good read on me - because I knew I would go to yellow before red and he steals the red from right under me.

Dude: A missed place rocket puts you in a bad situations. There is not much you can do.


**********************UPDATE:

Rapha: Even though it is frustrating that this happened. We are about even control so the game isn't like thrown out the window. So right now I'm like - so he has mega and I'll just collect the yellows and get the red and now I can start to do something. Because I know that he will go to LG perhaps I can trap him up top.

Dude: What is your feeling - we are barely at half time right now. You got control more than he did or or is it like even like the score, like 2:2. [says like much :D]


Rapha: I think right now I've got more control which is pretty odd for the games that we tend to play normally he has more control. So right here I've been timing the mega and I knew that I would set a trap here [...] because I mixed my grenades up - left, right and center. And I did about 300 damage going in so now I have swung control back into my favor and I can get the next mega more than likely.

Dude: So the 300 damage you did. With how much did he survive with?

Rapha: He probably had like 40 health left when he was leaving. So, but for me to go and attack that it was too risky at the time with his positioning I would have probably eaten two rockets to the face.

Dude. Plus you had red to go to.

Rapha: yeah, So I was like hey he is weak let me just get the control and

So right now I know that red is up but he gotta get something because I knew he would be back here and I knew I would catch him off guard. Perfect kill. But here somehow he pulls of an amazing prediction and he leaves with no health and ends up getting control back somehow.

Dude: Is it because you guys play each other so often?

Rapha: I mean maybe like.. yeah maybe like the read where I got the kill to make it 3:2 was probably like I just knew that [it's hard to explain] but I just knew that he would be there - and I could just take that risk.

Dude: absolutely.

OKAY GUYS UPDATE TIME:
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Rapha: So in heinsight (looking back, so to speak) he probably knew like the type of routes I was trying to take to catch him off and he was able to read me. And here he was really weak so what I was trying to do was get up there to get the red if my angle was better possibly but it was a very risky move. I was pretty much trying to end the game with pretty much two minutes left. And definitely didn't work out. [laughs]

Dude: Yeah, we'll after all we have to admit that it is Cooller you are playing.

Rapha: Yeah, absolutely. But here it is still okay. I have a decent stack and I know the red and mega time. And I do damage when he wanted to leave red. So it is a really good situation for me.

Dude: If he comes out of that teleporter and gets at least one rocket and then a little bit of splash why does he go so aggressive into your direction.

Rapha: Because I think it is based on his style. He always wants control of the map and he'll do everything possible to get the ability to run the map.And at this point with him being down he was trying [I guess] to push his luck. As I speak of pushing my luck I did right there "marching" [not sure if he said marching :D] out trying to get away which I did. And the only good thing about this situation is like I said I still have the timing of red and mega. So even though I am picking up the lesser item on the map and trying to stay unseen I can pretty much know when he picks up the next one, and when the next one comes up. So hopefully I know when there will be synced and I can steal one.

Dude: It's less than two minutes on the clock and it is a a 3:2 and you are a 100 125 right now. How intense is this game actually?

Rapha: Well, it is really intense because he has got the control so I gotta play perfect to make sure that he does not get the frag. Because right now with under two minutes I have the lead. My focus is - okay I've got the lead just run the clock out - find a way to run the clock out. And it is all that I'm trying to do. So right now I knew that the yellow is coming up so I tried to secure it which is why I laid the nades up top so the only place he could come in was the bottom.


Dude: You let him take red.

Rapha: Yepp, I know when red is in case I anything goes wrong like I die I can take it. And I heard that he might be there [09:29] that's why I did not drop which ended up being good for me. So I can retreat over here and grab this yellow and here is a mistake. Instead of me just trying to get down to the red I thought and I panicked. I thought he would try around and hit me down to the bottom and then I would be screwed. So I just hopefully tried to do some damage and maybe know him of into the lava with a rocket but now he has got the kill and full control. So now I need to play and play like a ghost [he says something similar but it is hard to me to find out what] for the 30 seconds and just be unseen. Pick up shards and if I see him, as soon as I see him, start to run. And just hope for overtime and give myself another two minutes to have an opportunity to win the game.

Dude: This was probably one of the better moves.

Rapha: Yeah, I like knew about when mega was coming up so I really wanted is the time but he jumped on early so okay I'll do some free damage and get away and just keep just doing what I'm doing is collecting the shards and force an overtime. I've done what I've wanted. And now what I probably was thinking is 'okay he had control for, let's say, two minutes. So what he is trying to do since he hasen't

I'm at 10:43 but I've been doing this for a while so I might finish it tomorrow after all. :)

[only two minutes left. Man this takes some time :D Thanks for the plusses though :)]

wow, someone actually did it.

I'm not done yet. 4 minutes left or so. I'll finish it later tonight.

hindsight

thanks I was really unsure about that term and googled it. Apparently there are different ways of writing it :/

... Captain Hindsight?

Rapha: yeah, So I was like hey he is weak let me just get the control and

So right now I know that red is up but he gotta get something because I knew he would be back here and I knew I would catch him off guard. Perfect kill. But here somehow he pulls of an amazing prediction and he leaves with no health and ends up getting control back somehow.

Dude: Is it because you guys play each other so often?

Rapha: I mean maybe like.. yeah maybe like the read where I got the kill to make it 3:2 was probably like I just knew that [it's hard to explain] but I just knew that he would be there - and I could just take that risk.

They are definetly in love.

Thank you very much, Ischiju!!! U re really a cool guy! :D

needs some rapha vs cypher/k1llsen demo analysis. How does he shut down these super aim whores? That is my question.

especially k1llsen

double quotation marks > single quotation marks

dont like the cfg aswell :(

could just use the player's personal cfg too

That could actually be quite fun :).

yep!

oooh yea nice

Great idea!

Perhaps they could just show them and exec a config similar to lvl's afterwards.

default config with 8bit colors?

i like cfg but 125fps and some refresh rate would be nice

Kill smoke and music volume (and maybe change to Keel instead of TankJr) as others have suggested but some better mics would be nice aswell. It sounds like you are sitting in a basement with a $20 mic from Walmart or smth.

Edit: And ofc the crosshair!

Rapha teaching the world how to play +1
Some dude interviewing rapha at the same time -1

i thought it was carmac?

It's TheSlaSH Managing Director of SK.

Nope, its theslasher i think or whatever his name is, he ussualy does the interviews with rapha aswell on the sk site.

i always thought it was carmac lol

it doesn't matter to me who the guy is, but he should just let rapha explain things about the dm13 game the way he wants it. If he wants to interview him do it after the game.

carmac did it two times (for the esl) and theslash did it now (for sk)

carmac did it two times (for the esl) and theslash did it now (for sk)
and don't pretend you're always thinking

carmac did it two times (for the esl) and theslash did it now (for sk)

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

clown

nob jockey

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/aswell.html

Nope, it is me :) and the 1on1s is me, too and the interview at ESWC is me...

"90 minutes hardcore ... true feelings"

Dude talking bout the half full and half empty 0
Duke talking bout the half empty -1
Dude talking bout the half full +1

what about fps? ... something higher? ... i wanna feel the smoothness of quake. :)

nice, although i expected a few more "ahhh moments"
and yes, the cfg is horrible

it was awesome, I really enjoyed watching it.

and a big plus for the choice of music :]

OP is a fag !

Rapha's comments are awesome, cfg is shit though.

Like others said, rapha's commentary is great, the config is not so much.

Time. Being unseen. And odd places.

CFG could be better, commentary is ok.

.

How should we know. LOLOL

go ask someone who studies computer science or something

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try Chrome.

commentary is shit. CFG is win

improve your trolling science next time ;)

he did 'improve it', actually ;)

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1473489#pid1473489

I didn't know at the time that posting about your new gaming card in a gaming site that has a hardware section was trolling. I know better now though, and have tried to avoid posting anything pertinent to gaming for as long as possible, per unwritten forum rules.

my point was, that back then you were so easily raged by trolling.

And now you do it yourself ;)

he still gets raged. and by jamerio no less.

Good work.

Good stuff! If this is actually weekly, that'll be great. Agree on the config whine though -- using the player's own config would be awesome.

Also: get rapha in as often as possible!

use the default graphics for demos ffs
you're losing a lot of viewers with the shitty graphics

bible or no bible, rapha is awesome

config is ok, everything is visible, other things are personal priorities

These videos are great. I'd pay to have more.

why did you mention this?????? now we will have to pay!

What were you thinking when you decided to make a video with that config? Other than that, great video.

It was an interesting video, would be nice to have some others with european players.

About the config : using the personnal config of the pro we're following would indeed be awesome.

If not, then I think 125 fps would be cool at least, and perhaps another crosshair (+).

Good job.

The most annoying thing to me was bobbing. I wonder if anyone with seasickness threw up while watching this :D

i think it would be a great idea to let cooller or cypher or maybe stermy (as he is a recent rapha killer) cast some games too--> in their native language preferably (easterns cant english)

Apparently coolleR taught us 'zis is rapha', so no problem for him.

surprisingly boring. :/

We will consider all your feedback, especially on config and matches you want to see. Also we will open embedding this video to esreality.com so you can enjoy it here directly if you want to.

Will open a forum thread at the SK website with all feedback we will work into the product and for you to submit more while we develop fresh pot's even further.

[+] for satisfying the quake-base.

Listening to the commulity is always a good thing! :D

I think it would be better to open a thread here tbh

reading here, too :)

i came

Really nice, refreshing idea. Would dfinately be watching again if you do some of the other big players too.

copy pasta of esl's (carmac's) show.

Not like we are swamped by these productions, are we?

and that automatically means all creativity should stop and everyone should start making same shows over and over again?

Very nice, wouldn't mind seeing more of these.

Rapha | Cooler
Virgin | Laid
Nice | Arrogant
Pro | Pro


Rapha - You all relate to him because he is a virgin. He is a nice guy and difficult to begrudge. On the contrary, he is more mature than 99% of you, and at such a tender age. He is also better than you will ever be at Quake Live.

Cooler - He is everything you want to be. He boasts confidence and arrogance. He doesn't play Quake to make friends. You can easily make anything regarding him into the "Soviet Russia" meme, greatly appealing to all you internet dwellers.

Clap.

Yeah right, cooller gets laid? LOL

in soviet russia cooller lays you

booking my ticket right now!!!

Fuck I need to apply my VISA first

sloppy seconds it is.

you see him in the hot tub brah? If i were a women or gay i'd totally do him. NO HOMO

it's COOLLER not cooler broski

Do not care. Not my fault he spelled his name wrong.

no, its you who spelled his name wrong.

Contrary, as far as I remember, Colller in one interview admitted not drinking alcohol at all. Not much of a laid then, I guess :)

not everyone is so ugly that they have to get drunk to think they're less ugly and therefore think they stand a chance with girls. and since you're the one mentioned alcohol, i think there's 99% chance that you're the butt ugly guy type that i just described.

I might be, can't fully deny it :]
But using your way of reasoning, odds are quite huge that since you were the one to call me "butt ugly guy", you might a one as well. And someone else shall ask: "who cares?"

i might be as well, who knows. :)

yeyeyeyeye okok

3 / 10

for effort

there should also be a slow-mo like in ESL classics so that the player can give more insights about the game situation.

can someone explain the term "fresh pots" ? ;-7

coffee??

oh, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhdCslFcKFU

This is where it originally comes from. There is also a Facebook group for it:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fresh-Pots/371761278916

We needed a product name, so what was more obvious than calling it Fresh Pots? And there is more to come from that, just as you need the coffee.

We also call our Steelseries Qck SK edition "the fresh pots of pads".

remove the Fresh part from the name cause it's not.

this might be difficult to believe, but even a fresh pot of coffee is not always the first that ever made.

need to have timescale so the player can turn demo speed down a bit and explain more.