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Portable QL? See: New Razor Switchblade (70 comments)
( Forum: QL)
Posted by Six16 @ 12:56 CST, 6 January 2011 - iMsg
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/razer-swit...-our-minds


Looks interesting.
Edited by Six16 at 13:00 CST, 6 January 2011 - 15078 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 13:01 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By United Kingdom Six16 
<< Comment #2 @ 13:17 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju 
I bet his mouse is not really working on that surface.

also:

- cpu/gpu <- can it run ql/wow/sc on stable fps
- screensize <- i cant find the rocket ammo
- connected to that battery life
- id rather they just make it an appealing netbook :p

+ usb 3.0? :D
<< Comment #61 @ 15:06 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By 011 deith  - Reply to #2
"i cant find the rocket ammo"

How comes that you can aim.
<< Comment #62 @ 17:35 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #61
screensize is fucking tiny hence "i cant find it"
<< Comment #64 @ 18:27 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By MLP_FlutterShy Teen Queen  - Reply to #62
There's a huge 46 in the centre.
<< Comment #3 @ 13:22 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By X-Men Sub_ 
would make a good (and expensive ;) ) portable demo/media player.. apart from that, no thank you.
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<< Comment #4 @ 14:03 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By djogedj h8m3 


finally RELOAD button!
Edited by h8m3 at 14:04 CST, 6 January 2011
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<< Comment #35 @ 09:01 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Australia maltyplaya  - Reply to #4
I'm just impressed that he managed to hit 4 impressives on that setup. Impressive!
Edited by maltyplaya at 09:01 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #51 @ 13:19 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By zerg esdf  - Reply to #35
Captain Obvious to the rescue!

IT LOOKS SHOPPED!
Edited by esdf at 13:22 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #6 @ 14:23 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By ql sirax 
Buying one as soon as they'll take my money.
<< Comment #5 @ 14:17 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By cooller skint 
atom cpu so no (in terms of gaming)
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<< Comment #7 @ 15:35 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Seychelles zealot 
interesting :) if you just want to run ql there are other, cheaper options already out.

the acer aspire one 521 for example runs ql (stable 125fps) with vertex 1 and 640x480. that's a 10inch netbook, the same and even better hardware can be found in other brand's netbooks aswell.

edit: in any way, you are probably restricted due to the vga/hdmi outputs, atm we need dvi-d for 120hz tfts.
Edited by zealot at 15:37 CST, 6 January 2011
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<< Comment #13 @ 17:26 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By wc3_undead mammon  - Reply to #7
hdmi not good enough for 120 hz? interesting info!
<< Comment #16 @ 18:23 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #13
is it? i was under the impression it wasn't possible with 120hz tfts because of bandwith issues.
<< Comment #18 @ 19:00 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By wc3_undead mammon  - Reply to #16
i have no idea but always assumed it would work because hdmi is the latest. wouldn't that also depend on resolution you were trying to push through as that affects the required bandwidth?
<< Comment #19 @ 19:37 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #18
yea, it does depend on resolution. i'll get a tft soon and will try it out.
<< Comment #24 @ 05:23 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By X-Men Sub_  - Reply to #19
120hz doesn't work with current hdmi standards.
<< Comment #30 @ 06:48 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #24
even at 640x480? iirc someone claimed on esr that it should theoretically be possible at that resolution, with 800x600 being too much. did you happen to try that out?
<< Comment #39 @ 09:25 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By X-Men Sub_  - Reply to #30
doesn't work, just tried it out. probably no point in playing 640x480 on a modern tft anyway, unless it has hardware scaling I'm guessing scaling wouldn't work correctly even if you manage to get a 640x480 signal at 120hz. anyways, pointless discussion apart from the fact that hdmi sucks ;)
Edited by Sub_ at 09:29 CST, 7 January 2011
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<< Comment #34 @ 07:57 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By wc3_undead mammon  - Reply to #24
What if you use a Monster™ cable?
<< Comment #46 @ 11:43 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Monaco kaliberr44  - Reply to #34
the cable is not a problem, the output on laptop is - from what I know there are only laptops with 1.3a HDMI - for full HD 120Hz you need a 1.4.

BTW. Does anyone know if there are any laptops with 1.4 HDMI yet?
<< Comment #8 @ 15:50 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By yesh its SEAN CONNERY! megaman3 
dota looks amazing
<< Comment #9 @ 16:02 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Hungary kapca 
I got a dual atom HTPC , it's a ZOTAC ION overclocked to 2.4 Ghz, I mostly play from this machine at nights, so I tested it a lot.
The Ion graphics is enough for QL, you can use the highest settings @ 1280x720, except the post-processing effects (glow, etc), since the ion only connects with a 64bit bus to the video ram. ,
But the atom even at 2.4Ghz (the default is 1.6Ghz), just can't do stable 125fps. (Q3 can btw o_O)

The atom is perfect as silent server or for a good HTPC in the bedroom, but its not good for gaming. I would recommend an OC-ed SU4100 like the Zotac IONITX-O-E , since it's a powerful CPU, and only draws 5 watts more when OC-ed,
It would be a much better pick, since it's a Celeron, there is no performance-killer in-order-execution problem like with the atoms.

Edit: multithreaded games run much better on the atom , I can play HL2 in HD with highest settings for example, and it's pretty smooth.
Edited by kapca at 16:55 CST, 6 January 2011
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<< Comment #10 @ 16:31 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By shafthore's only by dann Lave 
the idea just failes by the fact, that "small and mobile" directly translates into tiny display sizes.

this is just another netbook, absent alot of features aside from gaming (hdmi port, cardreader, multiple usb ports)

if you want mobile gaming - buy an 12" netbook with dualcore cpu + nvidia ion and not this 8-10" shit that'll cause you eyeball cancer after half an hour. and even then dont be fooled - it'll hardly be enough to play last generation games at a decent level
<< Comment #15 @ 17:32 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By MLP_FlutterShy Teen Queen  - Reply to #10
Sums up my thoughts.

Another rubbish useless razer product.
<< Comment #11 @ 17:03 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Italy spartaz0rd 
it looks amazing . would be way better if it was 10 inch and powerfull enough for games like HoN quakelive tf2 all maxed out and 120hz :D
<< Comment #12 @ 17:08 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Peru ZeriouS 
I think, that dynamic keyboard layout (OLED?) can be effectively used with other programs, work with statistics, video-editing, and more. But then again, that idea already exists, if a cheaper netbook with that kind of keyboard would be released... I´d get it!
<< Comment #14 @ 17:28 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By nihil madbringer 
Edited by madbringer at 17:28 CST, 6 January 2011
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<< Comment #20 @ 22:50 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By Canada-Alberta pks  - Reply to #14
I fucking wish.
<< Comment #21 @ 02:18 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Hungary kapca  - Reply to #14
[+]

bind BUTTON_A "+attack"
bind BUTTON_B "+moveup"
<< Comment #22 @ 04:26 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Germany dlx  - Reply to #21
B stands for +back
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<< Comment #25 @ 05:43 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By France Izi  - Reply to #21
Dont forget the Duel version , with A = +back and B = +ragequit
<< Comment #28 @ 06:03 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Hungary kapca  - Reply to #14
Hey guys, this may sound very far fetched, but I think this picture is fake. The power led is not lit!
Edited by kapca at 06:04 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #31 @ 07:02 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #28
God damnit, Fred!
<< Comment #36 @ 09:02 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Australia maltyplaya  - Reply to #28
Is that the power led or is it the thing that lights up when the battery is low? I can't remember,
Edited by maltyplaya at 09:02 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #37 @ 09:10 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Swedish Shaft Torzelan  - Reply to #36
It lights up with the system but gets weaker (together with the screen) as the batteries run low... as far as I can remember.

I only owned Tetris which I wasn't a fan of (gave it to mom who was). :(
Edited by torz at 09:11 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #17 @ 18:23 CST, 6 January 2011 >>
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By wsw2 Kokain 
I've already seen the switchblade in action
Edited by Kokain at 18:26 CST, 6 January 2011
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<< Comment #33 @ 07:41 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #17
He's playing on an Oscilloscope?
<< Comment #55 @ 14:00 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Hungary kapca  - Reply to #33
no! he is jerking off while watching his hamster.
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<< Comment #23 @ 04:42 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Beer! becks 
Now what we really need is wireless video googles and combine it with Wii controllers where one hase been tweaked to react like a mouse and a wireless connection to a netboox or something that you can store in a backpack or a bag or something.


Play ql everywhere without those having to squint to see something on the screen and without needing a table for the mouse!
<< Comment #26 @ 05:56 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By t2 tourist  - Reply to #23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asY_I8y6C0M
<< Comment #27 @ 06:00 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Beer! becks  - Reply to #26
only the first step, needs tons of work!!


I'm thinking of hring port to do this!!!!
<< Comment #29 @ 06:11 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Hungary kapca  - Reply to #27
it's also done already with kinect. back at q1 times, I was wondering if using a lightpen on the screen would be considered as a cheat or not:)
<< Comment #59 @ 14:38 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By United Kingdom AnthonyJ  - Reply to #26
Q3 plays better than that with my logitech mx air (along with my 65" 3d tv, complete with stereo rendering thanks to my hacked up ioquake3 :))
<< Comment #38 @ 09:19 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Swedish Shaft Torzelan  - Reply to #23
*pretending that my http://gear.ocztechnology.com/products/descri...index.html isn't a POS*
Edited by torz at 09:19 CST, 7 January 2011
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<< Comment #41 @ 10:11 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #38
Haha wtf. :D

Does this actually work?
<< Comment #43 @ 10:29 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Swedish Shaft Torzelan  - Reply to #41
Yes, very little practical use as you'd expect, but it's "cool tech" and interesting for a bit.

I got called a hacker in E+ instagib duel once using the mouse to look around and NIA for everything else (abysmal movement, firing) :@ Unfortunately only says anything about the opponent xD
<< Comment #44 @ 10:50 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By wc3_undead mammon  - Reply to #38
i always wanted to try one of these out. do you recon it would do a good job for stuff like switching between windows, copying, pasting etc.?
<< Comment #63 @ 18:15 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Swedish Shaft Torzelan  - Reply to #44
Basically there are a couple of inputs you can do and bind to whatever key you want (practically limitless I guess with some know-how and programs like AutoHotkey or something); honestly can't remember them (been ages) but some of the really easy ones are like looking left and right, clenching your teeth and so on. The more difficult inputs I never bothered with since people said it could take weeks just figuring out how to do them :|

Maybe I'm just not creative enough but I can't see any immediate really efficient use like that for it that would make it worth it; there are IMO too few reliable and easy inputs (but who knows), some of them can get surprisingly tiring on you (things you're not used to be doing all the time with your face), and ugh having that thing at hand, putting it on your head, running the software and shit every time...

IMO it's a nerdy gadget you at best show people and go "oooh ain't that cool". Been out for a couple of years though and I haven't kept track at all, maybe there's new and improved stuff out or at least people that have come up with interesting uses. I tried to incorporate it in any way with f.e. Quake but none of the NIA inputs were close to as fast, easy and reliable as anything keyboard+mouse. Railing by clenching my teeth was hilarious for a while :)
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<< Comment #32 @ 07:31 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie 
I cant believe people think this is good.
Gaming on a Atom on a 10inch screen, good luck gaming.
<< Comment #40 @ 10:00 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #32
.
Edited by Bob at 16:44 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #42 @ 10:12 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #40
Id still rage with my unexplainable FPS and lag problems
<< Comment #45 @ 10:52 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #42
.
Edited by Bob at 16:44 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #47 @ 12:18 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #45
il bash you on DM13 any time, any day
<< Comment #48 @ 12:59 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #47
.
Edited by Bob at 16:44 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #50 @ 13:07 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #48
iv owned you 2 or 3 times on DM13.
<< Comment #52 @ 13:27 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #50
.
Edited by Bob at 16:45 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #53 @ 13:40 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #52
http://www.quakelive.com/r/profile/matches/gr...796/duel/1

http://www.quakelive.com/r/profile/matches/gr...796/duel/1

Wont link to match for some reason only that week.
Edited by GreenMeanie at 13:43 CST, 7 January 2011
<< Comment #54 @ 13:46 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #53
.
Edited by Bob at 16:45 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #56 @ 14:01 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #54
well im 2 up already then
GreenMeanie 2 : 0 Derp
<< Comment #57 @ 14:12 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #56
.
Edited by Bob at 16:45 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #58 @ 14:17 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #57
Come at me bro!
<< Comment #60 @ 14:59 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Bob  - Reply to #58
.
Edited by Bob at 16:45 CDT, 27 June 2024
<< Comment #49 @ 13:00 CST, 7 January 2011 >>
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By shafthore's only by dann Lave 
why is it that asian guy in the promo video has unlocked the achievement "epicvoice"? i'd be okay with an 200cm northan european at the age of 50 doing so.. but seeing that guy just felt totally wrong
<< Comment #65 @ 05:25 CST, 8 January 2011 >>
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By Mongolia kalston 
I just want to know if it does a stable 125fps in QL, and what kind of GPU it does have.
<< Comment #66 @ 10:01 CST, 8 January 2011 >>
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By shafthore's only by dann Lave  - Reply to #65
it uses an intel ATOM - the best netbooks with this run quake at 90-100. you may reach 125 stable with very low resolution on the fpsfriendly maps
<< Comment #68 @ 18:37 CST, 8 January 2011 >>
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By Mongolia kalston  - Reply to #66
Yes, that's what I'm afraid of.
<< Comment #70 @ 06:57 CST, 10 January 2011 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #68
as i said earlier, there are amd/ati based netbooks that run ql at 125fps.
<< Comment #67 @ 10:10 CST, 8 January 2011 >>
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By Unset 26671 
flop
<< Comment #69 @ 23:00 CST, 9 January 2011 >>
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By US-Mississippi Spyyder 
I bet this is part of that "pr machine" or w/e that sync was talking about.

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