maybe you play on high ping?

otherwise cant confirm these expierience....

I don't.

demos to confirm?

next time it happens I'll try to remember to post it, but go watch toxjc vs av3k that recently happened. tox experiences the rocket jump bug and ppl think it was his fault.

You're referring to this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59sXXggMb8#t=7m10s

And honestly, that's toxjq fucking up his rj...

thanks for that link btw. i was looking for that one!

lol @ comeback. those rails were just insane!

yup, no bug there, just mistimed..

I can confirm the knockback being weird as fuck sometimes but I've only had that happen on rocket splash though ( like 2-3 times, only one I really remember was on ztn, me +backing from mega to lg, rocket hits the ground in front of me and I go flying through the corridor towards ya ).

Was maybe 9 months ago though.

Maybe ping/packet loss issue? Like you hit a strafe key, from your local POV you started to strafe, but server hasn't received the strafe command yet, so rocket explosion was in different place relative to you in server's POV. Or something like that.

Nah I had been +backing for a while and the hit was quite a few meters away.

thats what u get for being a +back fgt.

What else are you supposed to do when +forward rockets pop you up like in cpm except that you CAN'T evade cause you don't have the movements to do so?

c'mon plus it don't be an ass ))))))))))))))

what are you even talking about.

edit: also why are you posting this on esr

Where else would you post this?

Some place that actually has the power to fix the game?

Also, I'm pretty sure these aren't even bugs :P

it's not a bug, it's a feature

I have a problem similar to the one you described. Every few minutes or so, my pov gets "nudged" to the left for some reason, screwing up my momentum and movement. I think it might be related to ping spikes.

never experienced the first one, but the second one is quite weird... sometimes when someone jumps towards me and i hit him with an airrocket, he gets propelled TOWARDS me instead of losing momentum.

the #1 bug that will always prevail over others is the stair splash damage bug, but we all know it will (or can't) never be fixed :/

they fixed it in warsow

guess they cant be arsed then.

That bug, while fighting at MH, that tiny little lip where mh spawns, ohmygod rage inducing.

edit: on ztn.

haha yeah, im sure everyone knew what map u were talking about since it happens too often

It can be fixed, they just don't want to, it would produce way too much random fuckups in other situations it they do it the quick and dirty way ( understand : the only way they'd do it ).

imho not a bug :~

truedat.

I'm gonna detail the situations that "fixing" that "bug" would create. As the splash would have to be able to wrap around at least one or two ( rather two for the sake of consistency ) angles you'd eat splash damage in pretty much every corner of any map.

depends on how you "fix" this...

- splash wrapping around corners
- "redo" certain parts of the map (stairs only in this case)
- enable "through-floor-dmg" and possibly tune the splash dmg

- "redo" certain parts of the map (stairs only in this case)
as if they would bother coding stairs ( and those fucking tiles in the water on t7 )so they have a different behaviour than the rest of the elements.

- enable "through-floor-dmg" and possibly tune the splash dmg
dunno, afaik it wasn't an intended behaviour at all, just the results of lolsplash + fucked up maps. I'm not sure people would appreciate being randomly detected fhrough spam they can't punish/capitalize on.

And trying to get thrufloor on stairs while keeping the current behaviour on everything else = answer 1.

that's what you get for hiring arqon. same fucking thing existed in cpm and it never got fixed (either b/c arqon didn't care enough to fix it or b/c he genuinely didn't believe it was a problem)

because fixing it means you'll be able to shoot through edges

and you would still whine

I saw this happen, but I assumed I failed the timing due to my ping/brainfuck. Why do you think it's the game?

both bugs dont exist or magically never ever happened to me. and if they were real there would be much ruckus bout it by the pros

they're rare but they exist.

Sounds like you got high ping jitter and/or packetloss. Or you tried to rocketjump on stairs. Or you just failed them, which is no shame and happens to the best (cooller on dm13 lol).
The knockforward thing sounds strange, demos?

(cooller on dm13 any map lol)

Yeah, agree with this one.

1st is just hilarious... u cant into rocketjump?

2nd one is ping related i guess...

1st sentence is hilarious.. you can't into speak english?

nor can you, so keep calm and go away boy

you failed again :<

no i did not... considering american english got totally different spelling and many words they use dont even exist in BBC english, we cant use name english for language they use in USA... its americanish, not english

"u cant into rocketjump?" isn't American nor British English, sorry.

Welcome to the internet! People say sentences wrong either on purpose - if you followed various forums you'd see sentences like that more often - or they don't care.
<3

I beg your pardon?

what sellya said + god, ur dumb

YOU CPIK NO INGLISH GOOD SIRS

lmao

ive airroxed ppl before hitting them just on the feet, it made them fly forwards/to the side somehow and caught me totally offguard making me miss the 2nd rocket and i myself usually have 10-25ms ping.

might of been a high pinger though, everytime im trying to rape someone with 65+ ping it appears as if they posess magical powers or something, rails when im already round a corner and all that unlagged stuff :E

gotta be related to the herpderp netcode or smt?

live with it

both of these are probably due to netcode but I have seen the rocket jump bug happen on lan games by top players like toxjc, rapha, cypher, etc...

and I'm posting this here because I already posted it in the bug reports forum twice and it has gone unnoticed like every other bug i reported for this game.

post demos..

failing a rocket jump is not a 'bug'

it is when you do one without a mistake

how can you know the players you listed didnt just make a mistake in that situation?

i don't know 100% but I've seen a bunch of instances in pro pov's where their failed rocket jump looked a lot like the RJ bug I randomly get online so I just assume

sometimes i think its the crosshair position, when i use crosshair 2 size 40, i never fail. but on crosshair 7 with the circle, i always fuck it up a lot, even though im sure all of the crosshair was pointed correctly, maybe on certain sizes/crosshairs the location is fucked up somehow and tricks you ?

Knockback is pretty random; I tested scripted rocketjump heights once, and my average height was about 405u, but then one time I got 420 (massive height), and other times I got under 350u.

Another bug that's even more annoying (because it's more common) is the stairs bug, where explosions are cut off by a brush next to them and don't hit someone standing right beside them.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZaT...tx&t=1

wait until you have the sensitivity bug then come back and post

I haven't gotten the knockback bug but I get the RJ one all the time.

Is the sens bug the one where nearly every time you load the game it feels like you have a different sens than before? If it's that I get that one too.

Yup, different feeling with each game. Also ingame changes for no apparent reason.

*nods* its the worst thing ;|

guys check your qzconfig.cfg for mouse commands. This motherfucker changes by himself.

I had autoexec.cfg set m_filter 0 / repconfig.cfg m_filter 0

Then this lil faggot qzconfig.cfg has m_filter 1

For 1 week im feeling some bullshit but my cfgs are fine and in quake it says m_filter 0.

The second i change qzconfig m_filter to 0 and start quake the normal feeling is back and im aiming like god again. This lil faggot is a fucked up bug.

(also caught qzconfig changing my sens/accel/M_yaw/r_lodbias/r_mode/m_filter by itself, always changes to a super old cfg setting)

Yeah that's the good old serverside cfg bug. I think I probably reset it to default once a week because of random stuff like that.

I wonder if the rocket jump bug is related to the midair not direct hit bug somehow.

lol @ newbies who don't even know about the RJ bug. it's always been like that on TX servers for me. it's just something about them. I don't even think it's the fairly high 65-80 ping I have there. for periods it's happened on IL and GA servers as well.

I'm not fucking up my rocket jumps. I know ztn like the back of my hand and have the perfect angle near every time. it feels like the rocket fire is delayed or the jump command is delayed on the server, and you end up just facerocketing. if you haven't experienced this, ... you're probably not very skilled.

So it happens on high latency servers..... lol.....

*LoL*

you're not very skilled either, you fucking douche

bitter anon seems bitter

Just found and recorded another one. The chainjump thing that was supposed to make me get out of jumppads with a super tight angle actually made me bash my head in the ceiling quite a few times.
No particular angle nor timing, just some plain old " hug the wall and keep jump pressed until you're out " action.

I'll check the cfg in details though as it was in practice mode but I don't remember execing anyone else's cfg in months and my last serverside reset was around a week ago.

That happens if you have ramp jumping enabled as far as I know.

With just chain/double or w/e it should be the hop, with ramp jumping on it turns into hitting the ceiling.

yeah that's what I thought aswell, problem is that I had not changed anything on my end.

it's a server side setting.. play on another server

that was offline and it wasn't a devmap.

you had ramp jumping enabled.

nope.

The stair and RJ bugs aren't really bugs. Carmack simply wants your rockets to fail, just like his do.

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/john-carmacks-ar...rs-crashes

Bullshit. Put a wait in your RJ script between moveup and attack.

pretty much every good player in QL (at least in the US) has bemoaned the rocket jump nonsense before. it's real. I'm not a defragger and I don't move as well as walter or strenx or cypher but I've played 10 years and I know when I miss or don't miss a rocket jump.

Then it surely is net-related. It never fails on a decent ping with a stable connection. Probably if you hit a small spike just when you RJ it messes up.

i have seen it happen on lan by rapha and cypher

i dont get it: why only americans whine on some stupid not existing bugs?

rapha is losing because of sensbug, u dont rj perfectly because of rj bug... its just lame....

maybe because it's not non existing? i don't get it why only douchebags keep replying to my thread trying to convince me the bug doesn't exist.

Yes I fail rocket jumps sometimes and no I don't blame it on the bug everytime. I can tell when it was my mistake or the bug. It's not like a group of us got together and decided to make up a bug to post on esr.. it's real.

no no no...

in this thread there are 5 guys who try to convince whole ESR rj bug exist... 3 of them are USA, 2 are just QL flamers

ROFL you use an rj script?

ROFL yes, and it never fails.

RJ can be more difficult in higher resolutions ime, although most pro's use lower res. Timing of keyboard and mouse can mess things if not pressed in time?

Th bug that pisses me off most is when you get lag when a friend goes online or offline... Fix that shit first.....

RJ can be more difficult in higher resolutions

really, what the fuck is wrong with you people ?

For some funny reason it seems more buggy in higher res.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2112069#pid2112069

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Be proud :P but fuck knows where "people" came into this :p

tbh the messed up rj's always happen at the same place... it's prolly not netcode which fucks it up... for instance if you jump (on hub) from lower rl to mega wanting to afterwards rj up to upper rl, pretty much always the rj will fuck up.. also seen that in quite a few matches. Same with the rj up to ra at the grenade... it's always standing close to the ledge doing a quick rj up against the back wall / turning towards ra...
As for knockback, I never had it go the wrong way... mind you that you are further in your trajectory on your own pc than you are on the server (where the knockback occurs). So when you +back with quite some speed and an rl explodes just infront of you, chances are on the server it hit you behind the model...

But tbh in general the knockback got strange when the models were made capsules rather than boxes. They should be cylindrical imo in order to not mess up the knockback (just a guess btw but based on where / how and when knockback is different from before, I'd say it's the capsule shape at the feet of the nmy which makes it strange).

the reverse knockbacks don't happen very often but when they do i can clearly tell im being knocked forward when i should be knocked backwards... usually by plasma, lg, and mg. and I'm pretty sure I have experienced the bug in closed beta before all the hitbox changes but I'm not 100%

I think partial through-floors damage would be cool to have in Quake again. Would also get rid of that issue with small edges totally stopping splash damage. It doesn't really make sense that you can stand right next to a corner or wall, or on a thin platform, and not take splash damage from a rocket anyway.