there is no better nerd joy than building your new pc and booting it for the first time

And then spending the next 20 minutes figuring out why it's not posting :S

The joy of the first builds

These modern pcs are easy man, try building a 450mhz AMD K6-2, or a 566 celeron, fucking hell. "It will be like time to build my pc!"

5 DAYS LATER

"I hate myself, I hate my life. hate."

3 HOURS LATER

(sound of crying) "Why? Why me?"

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In this regard, my latest PC amazed me. I got all the parts put it together and switched it on. It worked. Amazed.

Ugh, I built a few older ones.. The good old days of switches and jumpers :)

pff, childs play


build a 16MHz 386 with non PnP ISA Cards where you actually have to put jumpers into the right places in order to get _anything_ to work :>

Hehe, I did in fact play around with a few of those, but I was speaking of pc's I lovingly saved up for and built myself when I was a student. Fucking jumpers. Who ever thought that was a good idea?

My first computer was a Spectrum clone and it came in form of a bunch of electronic parts that you had to solder together yourself (and the schematic that came with it was a little bit incorrect and you had to find and fix those mistakes). Now that's what I call "build your PC". When you finally do it and turn it on and it works, you feel something to which even your most powerful orgasm ever is like "pff, whatever".
Building IBM-PCs compared to that feels like tests for morons that they do in psychiatric clinics, like insert things into holes of proper shape, etc.

k, you won :>

had a k6-800 once, twas piece of cake to build it m8

You mean an Athlon? None of the K6 chips went to 800mhz.

maybe they didn't have 800 Mhz, but they were named this way, to be marketable to intel pentium chips, which had higher Mhz-count but were relatively worse in computation power compared with a amd k6 chip of the same Mhz-count

K6 was so much slower than the Pentium II. Hell, even slower than a Pentium MMX clock for clock.

you only spent 20 minutes : \

You don't have a GPU?

Using my old one for now..

can't wait for the day when decent desktop PCs will have the smaller format of at least a PS3 slim. i hate these tower cases.

but then with a proper hardwaremanagement, not like laptops where your (atleast my) only choice to do something if it's broken is "send it in".

the thing is under my desk anyway so i would much rather take the benefits that come with having enough space

You can buy small ps3 size PC's now-a-days, only problems are, poorer spec, internal space, and lack of upgradeability.

Yeah ive been having the same thoughts, the main problem is the GPU. Been trying to figure out how to build a small but powerful ish pc. The new AMD CPUs (mATX) with integrated graphics are quite nice but still not powerful enough and AMD fusion (ITX) is alot better than intel+atom but still not great and only really useful for a HTPC.

mac mini?

that doesn't count :)

Why no triple channel 12gb DDR3?

Lame!!!

Mainly to minimise my budget.

I'm planning on doing a cheapo upgrade soon:

8gb ddr2 (currently 4gb)
6870 1gb (currently 4870)
120gb ssd (currently normal 160gb)

That's like $400

I have a wolfdale dual core 3.0ghz atm, I don't really think i need more. Tbh my pc already runs everything fine, I just want a bit more uumph.

The case is sexy though, how much?

You're probably CPU limited, so upgrading the GPU will probably be a waste, as will the 8gb ram unless you really use it as the SSD will make a huge diff.

£125 I think it was.

i suppose you're mostly using your rig for games, therefore you should save the money and stick to 4gig ram and spend it on a better cpu cooler so you can overclock your c2d 8400 to somewhere between 3.6 and 4 ghz.
the ssd will have a huge impact i guess, it drives me nuts to use a pc with a normal hdd as a system drive since i got my ssd (vertex 1, so far from high-end nowadays) because everything is just so slooow :>

Actually no, mostly use my PC for development and graphics, I have like 30 windows open at once. A lot of slow down I experience I believe is from ram. And to be honest, ram is so cheap, why not?

I suppose I could try overclock it, but there is no need atm.

then you should get a new mobo and cpu, not a graphics card tbh

Interesting, ok noted. However, doesn't that mean that most likely I will need to buy more ram too?

Also, getting a mobo and a new CPU goes over the $200 price point I would have spent on the 3d card. If that's the case I might stick to just getting ram and an ssd. And do what you suggested and get a slick fan and overclock the cpu high.

true, a new mobo would require ddr3 ram

next year I probably will get myself a Dell XPS,
I hope SSD and 8 GB RAM will be standard then, and that they stick to building nvidia gfx-chips on their laptops ...

Q6600 + Asus Mobo + 4gb ddr2 up for sale soon, never overclocked and all standard, all good condition and working fine £150.

i cant believe u never oced that Q6600...

My pc's on 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, it really wouldn't be fair on the old cpu :)

i bet it could take it!

you probably could have done something with stock voltage if i'm not mistaken.

My PC's been on 24/7 for years and was always overclocked pretty high :< I had my e8400 overclocked at 4ghz for 3 years I think (replaced it now for something more powerful but it's still working).

I have 4 overclocked processors, all working like a charm(the oldest one is 6 years old). So, if you know what you are doing overclock is safe.. tho if you did know what you do, your processor was going to be oc'ed anyway.

what case is that? love those sleek black cases.

ps: im putting my first build ever together in a month or so. can someone give me some advice on how i can find what element among cpu/ram/gpu is the bottleneck? i have an i7 2600k. was thinking 8 gigs ddr3 ram. mostly still vacillating about the gfx card.

ps: nvm i guess its the graphite 600t?

you need either 6 or 12 gb for tri channel to best of my knowledge.

the mobo i had in mind was a dual channel one.

the i7 2600 does not have a tri-channel memory controller

fyi

Noted!

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I spent £780, so no, it doesn't beat this guy's from uni...

Let me guess, he bought a mac?

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and he is only playing wow i guess :>

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funny how the worst gamers always tend to have the most powerful pcs :>

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if you are a top level s2 player you don't pay anything for your mouse/keyboard since you are sponsored by someone :>

I spent £100 on a good mechanical keyboard too :(

Why is it deliveries always arrive late when you really want something :(

Goods arrived, the case is huge, easily a 12" (a foot) wide.. Plenty of space any how.

Mine's bigger.

That's what she said.

woman with penis?

Glad you got the joke.

but...errr... please no pics :( )

loads ql maps in like a second :o

A long overdue upgrade a week ago:
Intel Core i5 2500 3.3GHz
MSI P67A-C45 B3
1GB MSI GeForce N560GTX

Pretty sweet, the only proper benchmark is obviously:

lol

com_maxfps 666?

I'm stuck at 1000 :(

is that the non-ti version?

Negative: MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti TWIN FROZR II/OC

Why doens't QL have this benchmark, I cba to install Q3 just to do a timedemo :(

"/timedemo six16playsdm6" should work, or did they actually remove the command?

I tried /timedemo 1 but it said it's cheat protected... Maybe doing the way you said works.. I'll try later.

[edit] After googling, i got this:

Disconnect from server first.

All cheat protected cvars will work when disconnected from server, or in devmap.

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...nchmarking

Timedemo demo for QL ^^

ye, can't use timedemo on a server of course :)

You just need pak0 + point release

why didn't you get the K version?

The store (from where I get a good deal) was temporarily out of stock of those and I was too impatient to wait. I figured I wouldn't have bothered with the cooling for an overclock anyway, and this is good enough as it is for at least a while for what I do.

My next upgrade will just be a good laptop. Hook on a monitor+keyboard when home, use it for work/school/shit while outside. Kinda had it with the huge cases and "extra" computer.

I would of done the same, but I need 2 gfx cards/4 outputs.. Plus similar specs would of been a lot more expensive.

Aren't 2gfx cards pretty worthless unless you play singleplayer games with superhigh textures?

2 monitors + 1 TV = 3 ouputs required.

Some gfx cards do have 3 outputs but only let you use 2 at the same time, hence needing 2 gfx cards. Laptops only tend to have 1 (or 2?) outputs.

Ah, okay - that makes sense. I stream stuff over the network to our TV so don't need a 3rd connector :)

have

Your a dick.

I see what you did their.

*they're

What are the other components? PSU, VGA, MB, etc?

Old Gfx card: 8800 gts, soon to be updated
PSU: OCZ Modular 700W
Mobo: ASRock P67 Extreme 6

Nice, what video you consider?

Not sure, definitly nvidia as I don't like ATI drivers.

Budget of around £150, do you recommend any?

Geforce GTX560TI is a good choice for that money. If you can spend a little more for 570--->perfect.

Just been looking, the gtx 560 ti is ~£169, a little over my budget.. but it looks decent enough.

You will not regret, buy it.

How's the motherboard? I bought the same one just recently.

It's actually fine.. only problem is the mouse in the bios, it's inverted.. I upgraded firwmare but it didn't fix that. I'm used to using arrow keys anyhow so i'm not bothered.

I was going to buy the Asus P67 Pro3 (exactly the same but has loads of heat sinks..) but they were out of stock so went for this instead.

How's it for you?

i'm actually going to build it tomorrow.

Had to send SSD back, it was faulty, BSOD's every now and then...

TBH I haven't noticed that much of a performance decrease.

I think you're better off waiting if you want a SSD tbh. Even Intel which is supposed to be the most reliable is having serious firmware issues right now.

Crucial seems to have very few issues though, maybe it's a good alternative but I don't know of too many people using one.

Yea, I'm gonna spend the bucks on a gfx card instead.

I'll get SSD later, when I start to notice a performance drops.