How you calculate timenudge? :)

You set it to the same value as your ping, but I don't know how timenudge might affect it.

edit: never mind you mean "timenudge" and not "projectilenudge"

STOP HACKING PLZ

projectile nudge is only an animation i guess, leave it as 0

distorted animation is only side effect of projectilenudge.

cg_autoprojectileNudge and cl_autoTimenudge will be active soon, I think.

If they change the actual value of cl_timenudge, or if there's another way to see what the current value is, that would be great. It would teach people just how it works.

timenudge = ping/2
projectilenudge = ping

The problem of using them together (does timenudge affect projectilenudge?) might only apply to OpenArena. Doesn't it have the same engine as Quake Live, no?

so with a ping of 40 you set timenudge to 20 or -20 ?

For quakelive the answers is: I don't know

in my experience, around timenudge -5 is good for 40 ping

tn = ping/4 makes more sense and feels a lot better to me
-20 is way overkill for anything under 60, and makes hitscan a lot less reliable

I agree, tn -5 to tn -10 feels best for ping 40-60. tn -20 is bad for lg, shots just don't register like they should.

whats it doing anyway, never seen a good explanation..

Well, here is pretty good explanation. I saw sponge on quake live forums talking that they are not using this unlagged code (from q3 mod) but theoretically they have same principles of unlag system.

wow great guide, big [+]

Player prediction, in particular, gets bad: if you get 125 FPS, predicting your own player's state becomes impossible to do correctly, since the client engine will only store 64 previous commands.

This is part is totally cryptic to me, what is it supposed to mean?

Picture 2 shows Bitterman in exactly the same spot, but rotated 45 degrees. Notice that his bounding box did not rotate with him. That's not a bug in the cg_drawBBox code – that's actually the way Quake 3 does bounding boxes. It's the “axial” part: they are always in the same orientation in relation to the map.



Is this the same in QL?
cg_drawBBox doesn't work, is there a cvar to show the hitboxes?

hitbox threads and changes to it have been discussed a hundred times here?

- q3 square base hitbox
- early ql: 1:1 same as q3
- then they changed the hitbox to a cylinder with the diameter being the same as a side of the hitbox, the hitcylinder became harder to hit than q3 of course if you visualize it
- after some discussion and a poll here, they increased the cylinder by 10% to put it nearer to the original hitbox "size" (size being how easily you can hit someone from any angle in average)

Yes, but they still use the old square base hitbox for player collision/boundaries/movement (to ensure movement/wall clipping remains familiar). Therefore, it's probable that this boundary box still has the same orientation constraints akin to the old hitboxes of q3.

I was referring to that:
cg_drawBBox doesn't work, is there a cvar to show the hitboxes?

does this cvar (or a way to see them in devmap) exist then?

edit: can't seem to find any on the ql console guide, it's weird

never heard of it personally

thanks a lot for the infos anyway

No, it doesn't.

There's no cvar in QL for showing player bounding boxes.

r_showtris draws a box on the floor of players, but this box is misleading and appears not to be the collision box. As far as I can tell there's not even an option to debug collisions.

As far as I know, QL still uses the rectangular boxes for collisions and movement, but uses the cylindrical boxes for hit detection.

That would be sad since the way SyncError said timenudge has to be used was weird
he wrote that the formula is smth like -1 for every ms after ping 80
so it's like 0 for 0-80ms and -20 for 100+ms

QL is unlagged up to 80ms, so if your ping is 80 or below then there's no need to use timenudge for hitscan weapons.

Since cg_projectilenudge doesn't affect hitscan, set it to your ping, or 80, whichever is smaller. Then projectile positions should (ideally) appear the same as they would on lan.

they appear the same as on LAN, but in fact they are shown correctly only at projectilenudge 0 so why bother

What do you mean by correctly?

cl_autoTimenudge - I was told that was disabled. though I can still adjust and watch my ping increase for some strange reason

don't use that bullshit

Too late! ;-)

sif that will ever make you hit more/better

Projectilenudge seems ineffectual to me.

I remember when it was first implemented you could make all kinds of crazy stuff happen with it. Shortly after this it appeared to go ineffectual and still is.

Anybody get effects out of it? Do you have to have a high ping?

Projectilenudge seems ineffectual to me.

You are correct, I remember this command affecting my own rockets the higher I set its value. Right now it seems to do nothing.

yer, wasn't available on all servers, dunno about the situation now...
just try high values (in the 100s) and you'll see if its working or not

I remember the day we tried on the same server and it worked for you but I could barely see a difference ( if it wasn't placebo ) :D

k try this

jump to and from the aerowalk RA platform, while doing so try to shoot through the hole
try with proj nudge [ping] and try it with the default 0

there's a difference

I still could not tell a difference.

I made a toggle and did the jump/shot many times.

I even tried scrambling the toggle so I didn't know which value was being used, nothing.

Of course that's what I tried.

It maxes out at 80.

I don't feel any difference between 0 and 80.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2120407#pid2120407

with introduction of cg_autoprojectilenudge, cg_projectilenudge should be locked. Right now I see cg_projectilenudge ineffectual (At least on moscow servers). If cg_projectilenudge works (With high values like 100 or more) you can see visual side effect like rocket stuck at wall or floor.

Yup. That's the projectilenudge I remember :-)

hax

men play with cl_maxpackets 125, rest is for excusators (masters of excuses) :D

nerd thread. I'm not surprised tos ee lorfa and gstructor in here

i made an account after years of lurking just now so i dont have to read your shit anymore.

thanks ignore function

You're right that noobs don't belong in here.

Dont upset raythenoob, he has delirious of knowing wtf hes talking about, kind of a czm with inverted talent/ego ratio.

Possibly inverted penis??? Turtle Turtle.

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Can anyone confirm if either of these commands still work? I play with a high ping (80 ms) and both commands don't seem to be doing anything.

A couple of weeks ago it worked for me, since like 2 weeks it does not work anymore.

use cl_timenudge -20 for shaft (and mg), it works

Thanks for the advice, but I actually have found timenudge -12 for hitscan weapons and timenudge -20 for projectiles to be the best combination.

That's what I do on high-ping.
Why does id keep enabling/disabling projectilenudge?!

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