My guess is China has too big population hence they don't care about another human being dying here and there :E

:(

cunts

gotta be fake

are you retard?

no, but by the way you formulated your sentence, sounds like you are

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In the next five minutes, a total of ten people passed by Yueyue. they saw the two-year-old on the ground fighting for her life but did nothing but look on and continued on their ways. None of them stopped, phoned anyone, or even called on anyone to help her. At this point, Yueyue has visibly stopped struggling and her body became very still. After another six minutes, a woman trash collector appeared and was the only one kind enough to help.

I confess to smirking a little bit to that

omfg... some seriously fucked up people over there...

China is the country where you will be charged as a perpetrator of an accident if you help the victim.

Yup. Blame their laws, not the passersby.

"Nanjing judge" refers to the infamous 2006 case of a man named Peng Yu who helped a woman to the hospital after she had fallen only to have the old woman accuse him of knocking her down. The Nanjing judge in that case ultimately ruled that common sense dictated that only the person who hit her would take her to the hospital, setting a precedent that continues only further discourages and reinforces many Chinese people's wariness to help others in similar situations.

In China, this kind of situation is referred to as the 'Peng Yu' effect. Before you condemn then, you have to understand their situation. The law right now in China means that many victims of traffic accidents, or people who have fallen ill in the street have actually successfully sued the people that helped them for sums of money that could easily destroy lives, even if there is no evidence that they are the ones that caused the accident (because they were not). There is a China Daily article on this topic.

In a country that executes more than any other, I wonder how willing you would be to potentially implicate yourself in a crime by helping a stranger. Yes, its very sad. But I, for one, find it hard to blame them in this situation. The law needs to change before people can become less suspicious.

aint gonna have a name like sun tzu if you aint from around there

I don't give a shit what the possible consequences are - you see a two year old dying in the street you fucking do something about it, goddamn.

Those people are pieces of shit.

Have fun in prison.

have fun with your guilty conscience. i know which one i'd rather have.

i mean fair enough, the laws are fucking stupid and i can understand why people would initially be reluctant to help because they could potentially go to jail. however, for me and i think a LOT of people, jail time and fines weigh ounces, a lifetime of guilt over leaving a small child to die would weigh tonnes.

It's always possible to call an ambulance and bolt as soon as it gets there.

tru dat

I'd do it the other way around, obviously call bolt first and THEN the ambulance.

Just look at the possible velocity in this picture, just amazing.

http://www.entertainmentwallpaper.com/images/...bolt11.jpg

Well, if you don't have people relying on you, sure, save the kid and sacrifice your life for them. If you have a family to provide for, though, would you be so quick to throw away your own life if you knew it meant throwing away theirs as well?

fair point and probably not.

still, as kg said, always possible to phone and sprint when they get there.

Lack of empathy is pretty easy to do. Prison time, though, out of my control.

get help fast

Good to see you have that one ingrained.

I would still help, and any human being would also still help tbh.

The naivete of your moral system continues to surprise.

naivete of your moral system?

So u r implying that it is more morally correct to leave the child to die than help, but he is too naïve to understand that?

It's pretty damn naive to believe that ANY person, much less EVERY person, would stop to help if it'd somehow pose danger to their own well-being. We're not living a fairytale utopia fantasy, how gullible you must be to believe that people are better than that?

It's even more naive to strip those people of the "human being" status because they don't conform to some abstract values.

The world we live in is a fucked up place, and honestly i'm more shocked at people not seeing that more than at things like this video, because it seems that so many people believe that it's somehow an uncommon occurrence and a rare act of cruelty, when the truth is stuff like that happens all over the world practically every second. But then one situation like this one gets some exposure and suddenly everyone is sympathising and being all compassionate. Hypocrisy and bullshit.

lol I was just questioning the meaning of that sentence "naivete of your moral system?".

If u really want to reply to my post, then explain to me what "naivete of someones moral system" is and how it applies in the particular case.

It's even more naive to strip those people of the "human being" status because they don't conform to some abstract values.

there is no excuse whatsoever for not helping a 2 year old. EVER.


but aside from that, horrible, HOOOOOORRRRIBLE law. wow..

.

is this a good reason to mash this poor kid while his obviously is bleeding and dying?

ok


...

and no doubt 1000 of kids were gased and buried when they where moviing whole cities to make the olympic stadium

I'd stop to take his wallet then keep on walking.

sup?

Cultural reasons and laws stopped people from taking action, but you have to wonder where the parents were. The kid is 2 years old, and they let it out of their sight for more than 6 minutes.

the parents wanted a boy

It literally made you sick huh? So which sickness you got? The flu?

I felt nauseous, and throw up my dinner at the middle of the night:( Is that sick enough for you?

Fair enough.

nothing better than a video like this, after all those rhetoric-filled speeches and ads and whatnot you see these days, after all that "let's make the world a better place, it's possible" demagogic propaganda, to rub up on who we really are after all.

disturbingly sad, feel sick from watching this.

didn't watch

just reading the posts here make me feel sick anw

disgusting how he just keep driving, and the second truck who clips the feet of the child one more time, WTF!

another chinese law?

i know. he fucking backs up right over the child extra slow for a second time to finish the job. just unbelievable. fuck that country

Bots everywhere.

having read the comments I am not going to watch the video. society is disgusting.

Actually don't watch it (and I'm not trying reverse psychology -- watching it diminished me in some tiny, but alarming way). It's just raw human brutality without any context. So in one way, it's kinda obscene, in another somewhat of a sociological documentary.

I didn't also

What about the second minibus that run over her? How fuck out you must be to do that? Or to pass by dying little girl and do nothing?! Fucking stupid people!

[insert "I found this difficult to masturbate to" comment]

They should make a ten hour version of the driveover part repeated

Welcome to real life, where bad shit happens every second of every hour of every day.

Im not saying i agree i say how it is deal with it

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/l...ar_old_in/

equeco 948 points 1 day ago
I don't care about down votes. This is not by stander effect, as many people here would like to think. sadly, I've watched more than a couple of run overs/serious accidents in 2 different countries (south America and Europe) and always the by standers rushed to help. This is a cultural thing of the Chinese. If you save someone's life over there, then you are supposed to take care of than person from then on. And this are the results. As fucked up as can be. So please, Chinese people who live abroad, try to change that mentality back home.
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[–]luxi 2160 points 1 day ago
In China, this kind of situation is referred to as the 'Peng Yu' effect. Before you condemn then, you have to understand their situation. The law right now in China means that many victims of traffic accidents, or people who have fallen ill in the street have actually successfully sued the people that helped them for sums of money that could easily destroy lives, even if there is no evidence that they are the ones that caused the accident (because they were not). There is a China Daily article on this topic.
In a country that executes more than any other, I wonder how willing you would be to potentially implicate yourself in a crime by helping a stranger. Yes, its very sad. But I, for one, find it hard to blame them in this situation. The law needs to change before people can become less suspicious.

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tl;dr

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not a single fuck was given.

get help fast

And please go on trading with China and remain fascinated with their culture.

china culture sucks ass,.

much prefer sitting in a pub garden smoking weed, eating chips and scratching my ass, then going home in ya chav car bangin out some hardcore on your 20k decible system

you aint gonna find no china hunny in china, they only strut theyre stuff in the west and walk around in hotpants n shit, and you only get a few in japan

You don't have to tell me, I know it sucks a hard way! I rather meant there's a huge increase in the number of people learning chinese, willing to travel to china. It makes wanna shout: I don't want to live on this planet anymore! Well, I can't fully condemn those willing to trade with them, because surely half of my belongings were made in china. (profit > morality is obvious nowadays)

Btw, there's another thing that strikes me. How is with the emigration from China? At my uni in Glasgow, Chinese guys are like 75% of all the international students. From the stories of my granddad I know that in the times of communism in Poland, leaving the country was only reserved for those acting slavishly towards the leading party. Is it the same with China now? Does it mean that every single Chinese guy is a child of a commie?

communism ended 10 years ago when some new president came along and looked at russia, then they both started to comply to the human rights, russia more so because of the EU human rights

which is why trades openned, and the country has some wealth, but there was aload of crap on tv about human rights when china was building the olympic stadium

I think we can safely say the whole of Chinese culture is repugnant in comparison to the enlightened West.

those who made this atrocity will be punished.

Wow, this is fucked up..

LMAO@CHINA

I just ate a shitload of chinese food and enjoyed it very much. does this make me a bad person?

flied lice?

no toptick use fook

fried rice, you plick!

Did she survive or not? I can't figure it out. Later in the video she is in a hospital.

In anycase its horrible! They need to change that law. :(

Brain dead I read somewhere :(

Christ :/

Now dead :[

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/passer..._multiline

... one thing is for sure though. If people in china ever started rioting, you'd have literally millions of people out on the street protesting and the government would probably kill all of them in the process. It's no wonder everyone distrusts the chinese. They're sadly going to take over the world with their policies and force the world into the same kind of submission with nuclear threats in the future. Maybe not in our lifetime but its' obviously going in that direction.

Sounds like a bright future.

If people in china ever started rioting, you'd have literally millions of people out on the street protesting and the government would probably kill all of them in the process.

No, they wouldn't.

oh, really. someone knows his history.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wik...ts_of_1989

By the eve of Hu's funeral, 100,000 people gathered at Tiananmen Square.[6] Beijing students began the demonstrations to encourage continued economic reform and liberalization,[7] and evolved into a mass movement for political reform.[7] From Tiananmen Square they later expanded to the surrounding streets. Non-violent protests also occurred in cities throughout China, including Shanghai and Wuhan. Looting and rioting occurred in various locations throughout China, including Xi'an and Changsha.[8]
[...]
The movement lasted seven weeks after Hu's death on 15 April. Premier Li Peng, a hardline conservative, declared martial law on 20 May, but no military action took place until 4 June, when the tanks and troops of the People's Liberation Army moved into the streets of Beijing, using live fire while proceeding to Tiananmen Square to clear the area of protestors. The exact number of civilian deaths is not known, and the majority of estimates range from several hundred to thousands.[10] There was widespread international condemnation of the government's use of force against the protesters.[7]

Well that was over 20 years ago, but I will rephrase my comment as you have enlightened me.

*No they probably might not, probably.

hm, i know a bunch of people who study sinology who visited china quite a bit in the last 3-4 years, they kind of disagree with your assumption.
what they said about public order, police and surveillance in general was frightening, two of them were in shanghai when the olympic games took place there, they said the control the state has over its citizens is something a western european can hardly understand.

what do you base this on anyway, i've been hearing nothing but bad news from that part of the world when it comes to (even just tolerating) political dissent?

Hmm.. I guess it was just an assumption of them being a civilised nation & a superpower.. I would of thought they would be more enlightened than they used to be..

Also, he said "all".

They defo wouldn't kill them all.

That's actually disgusting...

looks ogrish, please don't start a topictrend

I don't care about strangers.

So - while passing by - you could just look down at her, and keep walking away?

This made you sick? I miss when I cared that much

heheheh, i remember the time I first loved a woman. It was right after I rolled off her roofy riddened body.

You're such a romantic.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2011-10/17/content_13909773.htm

Police caught the truck driver soon after the incident and the van driver turned himself in on Sunday afternoon.

...

According to reports the van driver had just split up from his girlfriend and was talking on his mobile phone when he hit the girl.

"If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,125). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands yuan," said the driver over the phone to the media, before he gave himself up to the police.

When she ran from shop to shop for the identity of the girl, the rag collector was told by a number of shopkeepers to mind her own business.

haha

"If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,125). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands yuan

so i wasn't imagining it when he backed up on her in an apparent attempt to make sure the person he hit was dead. Fucking scumbag, but the laws in that country are appalling. Where are the protests? Do Chinese people really accept that?

This clip kinda stayed with me today and more or less disturbed me(as it should). After the effect of callous, dumb brutality wore off, I think what Toin Coss said in this thread is most telling.
One can't deny how effectively the Chinese government has mindfucked its populace into submission and paranoia. The fact that the laws Toin Coss described control the moral behavior of China's citizenry shows just how "mind-trodden" these people really are. Where's that innate moral directive that supercedes and lies beyond the reach of the state's influence? No wonder a country of over one billion poses no threat to such a small ruling party. [In the US, "mind-trodden" goes the opposite direction, a la Aldous Huxley, in that we're amused/entertained to death(semi-hypnotic state)]

like all of you, most of the population dont know they have a handful of human nato rights, most of the country dont have a tv, and if they do, they cant talk much about politics

full communism might be over, china is a blanket state like russia and bullshits the world its protecting its culture

This video or group may contain content that is inappropriate for some users, as determined by the video uploader.

Why.. doesn't this apply to embedded videos :|

It's mostly just to stop people from randomly stumbling on it on youtube. If it's embedded on a site, it's expected that the people on that site would want to see it to begin with.

It wasn't my plan to disturb anybody here,nor to make this a rant against the chinese people with some stupid generalization. Please accept my appology.
I saw it somewhere (on reddit iirc), and were playing it back in my mind over and over again for hours until I eventually throw up my dinner at the middle of the night. I was on ESR at that time, so I posted it. It's a horrible nightmare video, how they are passing buy while she is going through hell it's just way too much for me:(

piracy? if u mean informatique piracy then you'r too much watching tv.

nah, he means counterfeit products

the weed they produce is absolute shit, the dvd's they sell are absolute rubbish, but the food, I must admit, aint bad.

I heard she cheated on SC2

too soon ;/

Yueyue, meanwhile, is in critical condition with serious brain injuries, breathing with the help of a ventilator. Her parents are asking eyewitnesses to come forward with any additional information.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzEzNDIwNTEy.html

is sad tbh, and morally wrong, but then again what isn't over there, they skin dogs while theyre alive, eat anything that lives/breathes/walks, own the fuck out of dolphins, and probably 'anything' else you can imagine

doenst really surprise me this.

What's with all the people in this thread leaving "funny" comments about this? You should seriously consider getting a life. It's sad.

if she grew up and lived in iraq, she probaly would have been kidnapped by saddam and power drilled in the forehead while being set on fire

some could be drunk driver, and china needing to change 1 single law, isnt that bad, especially when africa is still a hole

Get a clue abiut what you'r talking about. ANs stop watching TV.

i got a clue, says in many posts in this thread, the public cannot get involved without being a suspect, which is the 1 single law

a nation with a state of mind of being under full communism rule except for 10 or so years walking pass some kid that got run over by what could be just another drunk driver, would be natural, until the nation wakes up to the modern political state of china

compared to other countries, china is nothing, they have even stop eating cats and having them hanging up in markets all skinned and ready to buy to suit modern times

eyes

What disturbed me as much as people walking past, is, the fact that not only the van ran the child over, but also stopped for a second then kept driving despite the child being directly under the wheels and being ran over a second time. At least move her out of the way if you are scared to help.

The blood red wheel tracks on the ground are as disturbing as anything i've seen on the internet, and I've seen a video of a Mexican snitch decapitated live on camera and the offended page on encyclopedia dramatica.

The people passing by was much worse for me tbh, perhaps I'm too old and saw to many horrible things in this world:( but those people were too much!

In situations like that IQ only defines the quality of your actions, but you need to have zero EQ for not helping. Even if you have just 1 EQ, you will have enough empathy to help.

This is a situation when she needs help and anyone can help and probably save her life! Walking next to a dying 2 years old child and doing nothing is beyond my comprehension, period.

You can't override basic human instinct and blaming it all on some stupid law, that is so weak I can't even find words to describe how weak it is. Those people were fucking zombies, and I want to understand how they can behave like that, because I have no clue, not a single one whatsoever.

It disturbed me as much as the people walking past.

Note the "as much"... it's not "more than"

Where I used to live (a green-belt, sub-urban part of London where family incomes eclipse everything else), there was a story of a woman collapsing from a heart attack on a high street, and nobody came to help her for 45 minutes despite 1000's of vehicles driving past, and a lot of people walking past. It is nothing out of order to see people being passive in times when great crimes or horrible injustices are commited, since your average person is too sheepish to try to be heroic.

What surprised me is that the guy didn't really stop, but then with the little child under his wheels, he kept driving and run her over the second time.

Wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years we are up against our soul-less "chinese agressors" and this video will be shown to infantry everywhere :Z

I understand what you said, but this is not about China, but about Bounded rationality and the Prisoner's dilemma.
If you put aside emotions, still: not helping that child is not just very stupid and not only means you are shooting your own foot, but also against fundamental and basic human instinct.
Evolution hard wired these moral standards into our brains and "made" it a pleasurable feeling to suppress basic selfishness if your actions would improve the overall fitness of the (group) society you are part of.

not helping that child is not just very stupid and not only means you are shooting your own foot, but also against fundamental and basic human instinct.

The only way he can shoot himself in the foot is by risking bills/prosecution for helping the child. "Human instinct" would have him choose the SAFE option, which is to ignore the child.

Evolution hard wired these moral standards into our brains and "made" it a pleasurable feeling to suppress basic selfishness if your actions would improve the overall fitness of the (group) society you are part of.

No, that's psychological training through modern social standards. There is no biologically inclined reason to ever help someone who is hurt. By evolutionary nature, humans are selfish - we merely tend to be selfish as a group.

Are you really repeating things from theory formed in the 19th century? I think "Survival of the fittest/strongest" is medieval thinking tbh, It's already proven that among social animals (like humans), the "Survival of the niceset" is the dominating and also the most natural rule.
The "psychological training" of the media and the politician/economy fucktards who makes people selfish and inhuman, and not the other way around.

Survival of the fittest has had nothing but more and more support since inception. Which scientific paper did you get your absurd hypothesis from?

Since when is the science of ethology considered as an absurd hypothesis?

Again, which scientific paper did you have that disproves natural selection?

Yo don't understand, it is natural selection all the way. Believe it or not, Darwinism wasn't perfect, so scientist keep fine-adjusting it since.
Phenomena in social behavior like kin selection, altruism and spite are no absurb hypotheses, but proven facts and pillars of social evolution.
Those are the things what makes us humans, and what gives us the special quality to be the dominant speices. In situations like this horrible example, every sane human would naturally choose the right moral thing to do if we would not grow up in a braindead medieval world.

edit: some quotes about natural selection from one of the lead scientist on the subject: Robert Sussman:
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"But sociobiology and individual selection do not explain 'unselfish' unselfish behavior. By this I mean behavior that benefits others but potentially leaves the individual no opportunity to pass on his own genetic legacy," says Sussman. "To explain that, we must give more consideration to group selection and the benefits of sociality."

Charles Darwin himself believed that morality plays a role in human evolution by natural selection. A high standard of morality may give the individual and his children no advantage over other group members, Darwin wrote, yet it works to give his tribe an advantage over other tribes.

Thus, over time, groups whose members value morality or practice unselfish altruism are more likely to survive and thrive, passing on the genetic traits that encourage ethical behavior such as empathy, fairness and generosity.

... natural selection IS survival of the fittest. They are not two different things, and the fact that you don't seem to know this shows that you have a google-level education on the matter, at best. Natural selection is still the foundation of ALL modern biology.

The intent to help someone (without incentive) is a result of conditioning through social standards - human development is done strictly through copying what they see, rather than evaluating right from wrong. You would do well to read "The Selfish Gene", by Darwin.

edit to your edit: Sussman is not a biologist, he is an anthropologist. His works talk about SOCIAL influence on society, which is what I have been telling you.

if I google up some quotes for you because you intrude in to a conversation and you don't believe me is not "google-level education" and (if that matters) I red quite a lot of books about this subject including the one you "suggested".. but anyway I don't like your style anymore, /quit

edit: and if this is about judging the quality of each other.. narrowing down a "problem" to just one science is one of the most stupid things ever.

Intruded? This is a forum, and I merely corrected your misinformation. If you don't want to discuss something, don't use a forum. If you don't want to be corrected, don't make shit up.

I didn't narrow it down to one science, I merely pointed out that you were wrong about a biological factor. Altruistic behavior is a social development that is taught, not passed on.

1, conversation is why I'm here but that's ended between you and me at #131

2, Altruistic behavior is proven to have an inherited neural base, and iirc is connected to egoism (the only part you have)

Do you have a scientific study to point to that proves what you are saying? I can't wait to read it, because you're talking about proving all of modern biology wrong.

Sorry I really don't remember the sources of all the knowledge what I consumed almost two decades ago, but I do remember there were quite a lot of different publications to prove this from different fields of science (biological and psychological studies as well)
I remember one specific example about the behaviour of dolphins growing up completely alone would still try to save strangers with risking their lives and keep doing so after they getting severely wounded without ever learning or seeing that kind of behaviour.

When you find even a single credible source, feel free to come back and defend your views.

Yea, just the moment dear sir!
Of course I will dig up some magazines from the 90' (which I don't have anymore ofc) just to satisfy you, the rude troll who doesn't even have a clue about the difference between biological and psychological altruism, let alone the other types and not even mentioning the other parts of the social behaviour you would need to understand to see what I was talking about.
I think I will even gonna try to chat with some top scientist and get some papers because I have a lot to prove to you:)

LOL

You are making a claim that flies in the face of ALL of modern biology, and you're offended that someone would ask for a source? Biological altruism has not been proven to exist, whereas everything you have described has been an example of socially influenced psychology. It has nothing to do with 'human nature', or 'evolution', other than in reference to social evolution.

"Biological altruism has not been proven to exist"

The only thing what's offends me is that you just come here saying that I made this all up, when in fact, I only told things what has been proven a zillion times by zillion different studies, and you have the guts to say that I have google level education. You make me feel bad tbh.

ITT People don't know the meaning of "fittest".

Hint: it is completely unrelated to "strongest" or "most intelligent".

Yet, when asked for a SINGLE source, you can't provide one. If there are so many of these studies, why are they so hard for you to find? Is it because you're talking shit? Are they hiding in your imagination?

Reading you post in the morning, I went to google, typing two single words was enough to find a shit load of publications, allow me not to copy the whole page to satisfy your "needs"(!!!) but here are the first two:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...etic-trait
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/altruism-biological/

the second one from Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy contains a list of other documents and studies at the bottom, feel to start reading and understand that biological altruism (which was just one part of my point btw!) is widely accepted, and if you would only spend just 5 minutes of searching, you would find thousands pages of evidence.

I already told you the key words at #130, yet you are so stuborn and dumb, you can't even google before you troll somebody. Because that's the whole point., looking at your history here, all you do is hijacking threads and trolling everybody and you falsely call it a "simple conversation on a forum", and you are also so selfish, you expect and want people to defend themselves against your insults.

I was trying to reason with you and be patient as much as I could, but you just keep offending me instead of doing the right thing.
Not understanding the fact that not helping that child is fundamentally WRONG in every way, is disgust me to the bones and also frightens me a lot tbh. I don't want to hear anything from you ever again: /ignore

These are not scientific studies, and your second link is explaining to you exactly what I have been saying. Maybe you should actually read it, instead of just pasting google results. Better yet, maybe get a real education on the matter, rather than proving the uselessness of your google degree.

It is only "wrong" in a social context, and only from certain points of view.

An interesting example of altruism is found in the cellular slime moulds, such as Dictyostelium mucoroides. These protists live as individual amoebae until starved, at which point they aggregate and form a multicellular fruiting body in which some cells sacrifice themselves to promote the survival of other cells in the fruiting body. Social behavior and altruism share many similarities to the interactions between the many parts (cells, genes) of an organism, but are distinguished by the ability of each individual to reproduce indefinitely without an absolute requirement for its neighbors.

Found it on the wikipedia page for altruism, maybe you could look into that.

Here is a link to a study.

Does it check out?

Again, this is social altruism - not biological altruism.

You're introducing the concept of society to amoebae?

Your study does.

"Biological altruism has not been proven to exist"

wtf, some animals DO exhibit altruism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism_in_animals and while some of them may have "learned" it (like Bonobos), I don't believe that is the case for all of them, like ants for example.

That's SOCIAL altruism, not biological altruism.

google "two girls one cup" if you want to replace this horror with another one which does not involve little girls being run over.

very different horrors. equally terrifying, yes... but different ends of the spectrum x_x

Some of the old pain olympics videos should be on the same side of the spectrum. For the curious who actually go to watch them at this point, I'm sorry. =(

Oh yeah... I remember those... >_<

yeah that got to me too

the way you can see her body moving as he rolls over again...slfjsfl;sjflksjfslfj

It is also insane to hear the backround story. there were actually people who were helped/got saved by strangers, then sued them. Then the insane court ruling. Just wow.

It s a fkn kid for fucks sake. Help who the fuck cares what happens later. And that fear of court or what not is another type of bullshit.

lets just all cry, its so sad...
ruh roh china = evil people

but you still like the 80$ nike and the 200$ smartphone, dont you?

as if small people was telling world economy


retard

get help fast

Faces of Death remake?

Looks like this story has a second life so to speak:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/19/run-...19771.html

She died:(
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-girl-dies-hi...48358.html

While in the UK, 50 residents gather outside a guys house for punching his dog and beat the shit out of him.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/dog-abuse-footage-sparks-vigilante.html

Proud moment for China.

embarrassing moment for UK

Confirmed death. Read in the German newspaper: "Welt Kompakt", according to the news agency Xinhua, doctors diagnosed cerebral death.

Original source: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2...204564.htm

German article: http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/...d-tot.html

:((

R.I.P

From purely logical perspective, why our brains evolved to consider helping people in accidents as a good thing, why we experience certain "sick" feeling when we observe victim of accident just ignored by others?

I think the sick feeling is more psychological than simply just against inhuman, but yes the "good" feelings about helping others are somewhat related to inclusive fitness and (irrc) it's caused buy elevated dopamine levels in our brains.
If you are really into the subject, you may find more here.

Humans are social animals.

But how did that sociality appear initially?

Greater chance of survival in a group (e.g. pack hunters being able to take down larger animals).

Okay, but why watching non-human (for example, a kitten) being in same situation, produces same kind of feeling?

Hmm.. I think the mechanisms may be faulty, anthropomorphizing kittens. I don't think humans would care it they couldn't make a connection to a human baby.

purely logical? If you realy are purely logical you wouldn t even have to ask such a humongous retarded question.

Atcual science make people depressed and destroy culture - Book : LA BARBARIE written by Michel henry.

I think that maybe 50% of the reason why there is so much crap (including like this in this topic) in our world is because people are educated in the manner that makes them mark some really important questions as too retarded or too silly or too obvious to ask, while they don't have a slightest idea about answers to those questions.

If you want to learn about evolution in an easy to read way, get a book like "the greatest show on earth" by Richard Dawkins, or look him up on youtube. Its more about evolution as a whole, not just humans. But its interesting, once you understand how evolution basically works, you can almost join up the dots with most things and see how they came about. Not at an extremely deep level, but should be enough to satisfy your curiosity.

Then if you apply to this evolution theorie you also have to apply to eugenism.

Well, evolution by itself can mean any kind of evolution, but I meant evolution by natural selection, which although you could question what is "natural", I don't think it has much to do with eugenics. From what I understand, evolution by natural selection is pretty much the opposite of eugenics, maybe you could call eugenics "evolution by conscious selection".

natural selection: ceased when culture got hold too much of humanity ...
culture made it the age of the snakes and the weak

You think namedropping a random author/book is gonna convince everybody?

random?

for you ofc it s random

lol

nono somebody else said that science is everything

he was right

i win

this is the brain of humanity.

Why did I just watch this? I hate myself.

the worst part is when the 2nd driver , goes over her like she's ordinary roadkill (an animal)..... and you see her moving around struggling to stay alive.. just heartbreaking....

yes...
:(((

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20528...ident.html

Here's similar accident in China. This is sick!

:/

I don't understand this, if these people love their children and know what kind of a fucked up place they are living, why they can't protect their children? How is a 2 years old girl and a 5 years old boy are able to wander around unattended?

people don't have a say in china.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJoaHr2QdM

Occupy Tiananmen Square?

upwards of 7000 people were murdered by the chinese military

I know:( but it was a just joke:)

it's a cultural issue. Just imagine what war with them will be like. it'll be tower defense on nightmare mode with billions of waves of creeps coming at you, one right after the other, with no care for death, till you run out of ammo...

Oh, and here's what happens when you help someone in china:

Only three days after Little Yueyue's tragic accident, Yin Qiliang, a shuttle bus driver for a Shanghai supermarket, found himself in trouble for helping an elderly woman who had fallen down.

The woman fell on the ground shortly after getting off Yin's bus on Oct. 16. Seeing that she was unconscious and vomiting, Yin went to her rescue. He called police and, later, accompanied the woman to hospital.

The woman died the next day, leaving Yin in an uncomfortable situation as her relatives suspected he was responsible for her fall.

If no witness comes forth to prove his innocence, Yin could be charged with "causing injury through traffic offenses," lose his job and pay steep penalties to the woman's family.

Anyone wishing to travel to china better write their will before doing so. It's like playing russian roulette.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2...202921.htm

All of these people have serious problems, SERIOUS

you have serious necro posting problems, SERIOUS

wasnt me, bro