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News

DreamHack Winter 2011 Day3 (222 comments)

( News: QL)

Posted by xou @ 00:25 CST, 26 November 2011 - iMsg

Event: DHW'11

The third and last day of the DreamHack Winter 2011 is starting Saturday 26th around 03:00 CST with the TDM Finals, and then with the rest of the Duel tournament.

For more informations, check the ESR DreamHack Winter 2011 Coverage post. Results and VODs links (no spoilers) will be added as soon as known. You can also check the new tournament website.

TDM Finals schedule

Duel Playoff schedule

Stream links

Update: All the English TDM VODs have been added! All the Duel VODs should also be listed now.
Update2: Check out the Day 2 Highlights video!

Previous news: Day1, Day2, Day9
IRC:

#lvl^

Edited by xou at 01:40 CST, 27 November 2011 - 70222 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 18:36 CST, 21 November 2011 >>

By

megaman3

had to post this somewhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2a6pwNDcc&feature=feedu

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #2 @ 18:41 CST, 21 November 2011 >>

By

megaman3

is duel going to be played in a single day? That leaves no room for mistakes

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #13 @ 01:53 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

erok - Reply to #2

the groups were played yesterday

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #16 @ 02:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #13

all duels was suppose to be played today. they changed at the last minute.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #3 @ 05:14 CST, 22 November 2011 >>

By

slight typo, tird for third

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #4 @ 10:54 CST, 24 November 2011 >>

By

jetro

[spamming this shit everywhere]

Lets hope they make all players autorecord and get all the configs (hud included) this time, and don't end up with mixed up cfg's and missing hud's..

Don't think most players would mind leaving a copy on some sort of shared folder :/? Setting up a Samba/NFS share doesn't take that long and would make it a bit easier for the admins if you ask me.

[/spamming this shit everywhere]

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #5 @ 00:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Bono

what amazing matchups:O

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #6 @ 00:33 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

my shitty sleep schedule has been paying off kekekekeke

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #7 @ 00:36 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

this is gonna be sick, can't wait. just sucks that I'll probably end up falling asleep as soon as the duels start :'(

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #14 @ 01:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

erok - Reply to #7

yeah man we got an hour left :( i don't think i can make it my drunkenness is pushing me towards my bed

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #18 @ 02:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (129.59.115.1) - Reply to #14

Bro, take a nap? I'm going to sleep right now and waking up at 8 AM so I can watch.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #17 @ 02:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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LittleRussianKid - Reply to #7

the duels start at 15:00 CET. thats in like 6 hours from now.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #8 @ 00:50 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

occultum

And btw ,, i know it's hard work for what it is but could you try to get more pro players to the stream for interviews/talk on the situations there are no games?

!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #9 @ 01:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

foctis

LAN server working again?

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #10 @ 01:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

aeoL - Reply to #9

this^

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #11 @ 01:41 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

xou

Mandatory Day9 picture after that silly Happy/ToD game1

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #12 @ 01:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Shardik

c'mon strenx

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #19 @ 02:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

driver8

I hope they can show all of the quarter final games. All of the match-ups look interesting.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #15 @ 02:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

get more people on the stream lol

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #20 @ 02:50 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

limity

wow finals allready

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #21 @ 02:53 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Daddy_

great matchups, best ones yet, in any lan

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #22 @ 02:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd

1/8 rapha vs strenx )))

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #26 @ 03:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

adrenal1ne - Reply to #22

shame isn't it..

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #24 @ 03:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (217.78.23.50)

Good to see bibleboy going home as early as in the quarter finals.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #23 @ 02:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

[eXodus]

HoQ is missing from the final!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #25 @ 03:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Today is gonna be sick sick sick!

Cypher vs Toxic game will be epic.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #28 @ 03:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

well oiled - Reply to #25

cypher will win easily, sad but true, at this moment tox has nothing but aim only

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #27 @ 03:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 17:42 CDT, 27 June 2024

<< Comment #29 @ 03:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

burgonya - Reply to #27

the duel tourney is practically happening because of twitch.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #30 @ 03:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Bob - Reply to #29

.

Edited by Bob at 17:42 CDT, 27 June 2024

<< Comment #31 @ 03:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

0x5f3759df - Reply to #30

yeah lol. twitch.tv is pretty much the main sponsor for the quake events, and all of the official streams at dreamhack go through them

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #32 @ 03:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Wintastic - Reply to #30

Twitch.tv is justin.tv

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #37 @ 03:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

wingz

matchups from heaven

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #33 @ 03:41 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

RAPHA to win !!!!!! hes unstoppable man and from what i saw yesterday vs toxic, OMG....... Go rapha and Good luck to all, strenx has lost a few maps to players he maybe shouldn't of, this could be a sign, we'll have to wait and see i guess. Epic day ahead guys.

Make sure you tweet, like, digg, add and everything else possible to promote todays stream, tell you friends n tell them to tell their friends.

HoQ @ DHW'11

p.s. if strenx can win vs rapha (which i doubt) then i believe anyone could be this years DHW'11 champion

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #34 @ 03:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

sizzrp

nice matches upcoming wtf:D

gl master.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #35 @ 03:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Attyla7

Wait a second.... where is MMA schedule?

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #36 @ 03:55 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ff60

lololo

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #38 @ 03:57 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

we should all be in prison since we know 3rd place match will be a rape and nobody's preventing it

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #40 @ 04:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

xou - Reply to #38

fail

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #44 @ 04:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Williebobc - Reply to #38

if you're talking about TDM you have just been proven to be full of rubbish XD

has been far from rape, GGWP 2k

Edit: toned it down a bit, just for xou... point still stands.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #52 @ 05:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

DamianLillard - Reply to #44

pretend it didn't happen. you go, girl!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #83 @ 06:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Williebobc - Reply to #52

ahahah xD

yeah was a little over reaction.

got a telling off from xou xD

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #114 @ 08:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #83

got a telling off from xou xD

I basically need some kind of double feet - double palm quadro facefeetpalm to describe how much this site sucks as of now

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #222 @ 11:26 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

G.I. Jonesy - Reply to #114

One could argue there is a contraction of artistic expression happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8eLvKBWrI0

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #39 @ 03:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

jetro

You heard it here first:

Quarter-finals #1 - k1llsen vs Cooller
Quarter-finals #2 - Cypher vs toxjq
Quarter-finals #3 - av3k vs spart1e
Quarter-finals #4 - rapha vs strenx

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #53 @ 05:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

burgonya - Reply to #39

like it's not pretty obvious
also, >yfw tR takes top4 in duel

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #41 @ 04:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Gladius

wtf, what happened, why are they playing on russian servers?

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #42 @ 04:26 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

wata

green team is really getting his ass kicked

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #43 @ 04:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

horf

dead9

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #45 @ 04:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nukm

damn, was really looking forward to a thrid map between 2k/esc vs tr
still wp gda jaw k1llsen reload :)

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #46 @ 04:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

r1ddler

Nice game, could have been a 3mapper

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #47 @ 04:48 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

hauer

Naked guy looked buff.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #84 @ 06:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Daddy_ - Reply to #47

ye wtf was up with him around there? rofl

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #97 @ 07:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

iavoal - Reply to #47

its cypher's slave.

he carries cyphers devices, cyphers trophies, and a flash-card-medalion with cypher's cfg.

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #227 @ 11:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd - Reply to #97

lol

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #48 @ 04:48 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nemis

props to whoever is making them movies. day 2 movie is $$$

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #49 @ 04:55 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

iavoal - Reply to #48

share a link!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #50 @ 05:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl - Reply to #49

it's even in this news post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfmg-OvB28&hd=1

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #51 @ 05:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

iavoal - Reply to #50

thx, somehow missed it

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #59 @ 05:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (94.21.35.104) - Reply to #50

at the end the half naked kid staring at Cypher hahaha :D :D :D

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #247 @ 22:42 CST, 3 December 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (90.231.14.38) - Reply to #59

here he is:P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQSBwM6sHU

<< Comment #80 @ 06:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #48

agreed, go sharpe!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #61 @ 05:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

wingz

rapha for next US president

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #60 @ 05:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (193.200.150.137)

MOAR 2GD'S MOM PLS

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #54 @ 05:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

veed

please, don't let this 2gd-clown comment anymore...PLEASE!

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #70 @ 06:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd - Reply to #54

if not 2gd quake wouldn't even be played this DH, so he can talk whatever fucking he wants :))

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #55 @ 05:17 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

FishStix

DREAMHACK WINTER 2011 GRAND FINALS are LIVE, LIVE, LIVE!!!

make sure to tell everyone to tune in at http://twitch.tv/dreamhacktv

Deleted by Aaron at 12:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #109 @ 08:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

adrenal1ne - Reply to #55

<< Comment #210 @ 11:17 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Kristus - Reply to #109

You want him to tell you what it was like? To share the experience with the one less fortunate?

<< Comment #217 @ 11:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

adrenal1ne - Reply to #210

how should I know?

<< Comment #56 @ 05:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^

lol

<< Comment #57 @ 05:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Attyla7

F A I L
A
I
L

<< Comment #58 @ 05:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^

pretty solid 0% railgun by draven

<< Comment #62 @ 05:40 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

filo - Reply to #58

all draven can do good is spam bind HAHAHAHAHA FUNNY :\ ... all talk?

... good BS run on 2nd map though.

Edited by filo at 06:01 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #73 @ 06:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (78.102.163.103)

STOP SWITCHING POV jesus fucking 100 times per second.

<< Comment #72 @ 06:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (213.122.129.200)

Great casting from nVc and Disrepute, thanks lads.

<< Comment #63 @ 05:57 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm

ggs colwn, wasn't that hard I guess

<< Comment #65 @ 05:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #63

Also, wtf no LAN on biggest BYOC LAN? W T F .

<< Comment #68 @ 06:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Torzelan - Reply to #65

That sucks (at least considering how terrible our online servers are); not the fault of anyone actually at Dreamhack if I've understood it correctly but yeah. To any and all it may concern, fu for preventing LAN servers :@

<< Comment #64 @ 05:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Torzelan

impression just watching stream:
- working perfectly here, the password fail in the beginning was funny (especially since it happened yesterday too) but shit happens, 30 seconds gone oh no.
- nvc and dis both doing a great job, some minor nerves and mistakes showing through (mostly nvc but then again that makes sense since dis so far barely speaks in comparison and a lot of it is questions for nvc) but nothing big
- good times all in all

impression just watching #lvl^ chat:
- worst laggy stream ever, god nobody can do anything right, nobody in there would have ever fucked up the password thing (which should be punishable by death)
- nvc is satan himself descended upon earth to destroy everything, making ears bleed as he drones on in the ancient forbidden Cthulhu language
- /wrist

wonder who's most detrimental to the game

gj & thanks to all of lvl^ crew from me; fuck off to the perpetually QQ'ing randoms in the community zzz
gratz to colwn if the final ends the way it's looking to :q

<< Comment #66 @ 05:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #64

Agreed. Lvl^ for life bro!

<< Comment #79 @ 06:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Wintastic - Reply to #64

Psst, I hear they need donations...

http://www.levelupyourgame.net/live/
<3

<< Comment #88 @ 06:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

x3n - Reply to #64

Very well said, nVc and co should get massive credit for their job, but they probobly know how the internet kids work :)

<< Comment #81 @ 06:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

nvc - Reply to #64

nobody told me i had to already know which side the players would come out from (and which first), disrepute assumed i knew, trolling me for life!

<< Comment #86 @ 06:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #81

You're doing great, you and dis both. Keep it up. Everyone's going to whine on the stream chat regardless.

<< Comment #140 @ 09:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

T1E - Reply to #81

go novice

<< Comment #67 @ 05:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

dru1d

ez money

<< Comment #71 @ 06:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

That was a pretty boring grand final tbh. Expected results, not particularly close games. Obvious wins for colwn. Boring stuff, really. Let's get back to the real stuff: duel.

<< Comment #77 @ 06:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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aiken - Reply to #71

You have no idea about TDM. It's a pity that scores wasn't close enough to bring more emotions, but the level of team play was so high. It was great game to watch and congrats to 300, they deserved the glory and peace in heaven like those legendary Spartans defending their country :D. They lost either in the fact :)

Edited by aiken at 06:18 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #87 @ 06:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #77

I never said I was a TDM expert. I'm speaking as a spectator. It was a boring final. Especially compared to the last dreamhack event and quakecon. Of course it was the highest level TDM available right now, I'm not disputing that. It was just not exciting to watch, and not particularly close to create any kind of suspense. It was fairly obvious the whole time. High-level play, sure, but boring for the spectators too.

<< Comment #91 @ 06:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

pl4gue - Reply to #77

I do have an idea about TDM, and I agree, that was a pretty boring grand-final.

<< Comment #99 @ 07:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

aiken - Reply to #91

But I bet it was caused by the fact that you know the winner before the game. You were not curious about who's gonna win because it was obvious.

In the other hand in TDM the score difference must be constantly oscillating in the range of 0-10 to be interesting for spectators. That's why TDM is not the best mode to spectate. In duel there is usually a chance of comeback and most of the top player's matches are pretty close games.

<< Comment #69 @ 06:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl

300 were playing so good, but these weird mistakes of committing everyone to BS and not having anyone left at Quad really fucked them up. :<

<< Comment #74 @ 06:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

jetro

TDM prize ceremony was kinda...

Edited by jetro at 06:16 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #100 @ 07:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

InDepther - Reply to #74

If u mean toxic, there is an explanation.

He thinks that someone wants to assassinate him. When he is among many ppl, he constantly thinks who the assassin might be.

<< Comment #108 @ 07:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #100

he trained too much.

and at that scene, in front of 4 000 ppl, he was just constantly calculating the best angles and weapon and order to kill the every motherfuckin one in the room with.

<< Comment #75 @ 06:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

spartie said fuck that check

<< Comment #76 @ 06:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

r1ddler

ggs 300 and colwn, was cheering for 300 in control on dm14, could have won it, shame :) still nice teamplay, krysa delivered

<< Comment #89 @ 06:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

start duel matches an hour early so that we can actually watch all the matches?

<< Comment #78 @ 06:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

buzek

the most important question: will LAN issues be fixed before duel starts?

<< Comment #82 @ 06:28 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

filo - Reply to #78

... if they replaced HW, maybe.

<< Comment #90 @ 06:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

xou - Reply to #82

I would say SW is at fault...

IEM4 World Finals!

Edited by xou at 06:39 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #93 @ 06:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

filo - Reply to #90

... this.

Sponge reply

Edited by filo at 06:55 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #94 @ 07:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

xou - Reply to #93

If anything is failing, I'd say it's not the hardware. That LAN server is stuck deep in beta stage :]

<< Comment #95 @ 07:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

filo - Reply to #94

hehehe... n1

<< Comment #85 @ 06:36 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Ceremony :((((

<< Comment #92 @ 06:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

murph

BRING BACK NVC RIGHT NOW.

<< Comment #101 @ 07:28 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (95.247.22.239)

all big match and no english stream? wtf?

<< Comment #102 @ 07:29 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

blaze - Reply to #101

Levelup will be streaming 2 quarter finals, 2 semifinals and the finals. Just tune in to www.levelupyourgame.net.

We're not sure on which games level up will be casting so that's why the post doesn't say anything about it.

<< Comment #96 @ 07:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ischju

why are you not interviewing ppl?

<< Comment #98 @ 07:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

gut

Why haven't justin.tv after four years been able to scale the service to offer a decent experience to the viewers? Even the offline vods lags every 2 seconds... totally unwatchable. They have smart engineers, invesment money to spend... If it is not a viable business to offer a good user experience somethings wrong.

Edited by gut at 07:24 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #104 @ 07:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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aiken - Reply to #98

1) It's not justin.tv
2) If even VODs are lagged then it's casters fault (poor connection or overloaded hw)

<< Comment #103 @ 07:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

nvc is ellen's love child

<< Comment #105 @ 07:35 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

obi

Really good rapha interview, good job

<< Comment #106 @ 07:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^

Someone tell them this:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2110433
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2110433
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2110433
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<< Comment #107 @ 07:50 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

_flx

did mccormics movie get played yet?

<< Comment #110 @ 08:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

vxd

Please make 320p like it was yesterday

<< Comment #111 @ 08:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #110

what stream are you talking about? all twitch tv streams always have the 720p 480p 360p 240p options.

<< Comment #115 @ 08:17 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

vxd - Reply to #111

I am trying to watch cypher vs tox by oxid stream, but i can't see the quality options in the lower right corner :(

Edited by vxd at 08:18 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #112 @ 08:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

filo - Reply to #110

if i could give you [-], i would.

<< Comment #116 @ 08:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #112

what for?

<< Comment #113 @ 08:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Lorfa

Stream is on http://www.levelupyourgame.net./ not dreamhack :< I missed cooller duel from not realizing this

<< Comment #137 @ 08:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (129.59.115.1)

toxjq is a waste of talent IMO. He has great aim but it's so obvious he lacks duel skills that people on his level should be expected to have. Start timing you twat!

<< Comment #117 @ 08:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm

Why the fuck are quarter matches bo3 and played at the same time? :X I thought they would be at least bo5...

<< Comment #120 @ 08:35 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl - Reply to #117

I suppose semifinals are bo3 too then. :< :<

<< Comment #138 @ 09:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #120

Seems like it's true. Fucking bullshit... DH eswc style? Even sc2 has bo5 since semis, come on.

<< Comment #118 @ 08:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Attyla7

Cypher showed Tox serious gaming

<< Comment #129 @ 08:53 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd - Reply to #118

tox playing QL duel more for entertaining and fans, not to win. So say thank you for him! He is still very decent, if he trained more gameplay , he could be lot better.

<< Comment #136 @ 08:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (95.247.22.239)

the biggest fail ever, a lan tourney played on 30ms, rotfl. ye, quake is dead...

<< Comment #119 @ 08:35 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl

cooller :((((

Edited by scowl at 08:51 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #135 @ 08:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (94.21.35.104)

althought i dont understand a single word but the russian stream is awesome

<< Comment #200 @ 11:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #135

true dat

<< Comment #121 @ 08:40 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Xsi

I have a strange feeling that Russian commentator is very subjective. And it sounds like the second one in a background is masturbating all the time.

<< Comment #122 @ 08:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

esdf '

ahahah cooller so much fail :>>>>>>>

<< Comment #123 @ 08:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

HustLah

another fail for cooller

<< Comment #133 @ 08:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (129.59.115.1)

ESreality,

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?!??!

K1llSEN TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

<< Comment #124 @ 08:51 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

K 1 L L S E N
1
L
L
S
E
N

<< Comment #125 @ 08:51 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

cha0z_

I am happy to see k1llsen is raping. Why? Because he still enjoy playing ql and played the whole time after the last tourney, while the other pros "trained" just for a week or so. Take that bitches!

<< Comment #131 @ 08:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl - Reply to #125

He was mainly raping noobs in order to become #1 at qlranks.com, that's nothing I'm willing to give him credit for.

<< Comment #139 @ 09:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^ - Reply to #131

What's wrong with playing random people over pros? It's not like Z4muZ or toxic hasn't done that before.

Edited by mefajpE^ at 09:07 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #142 @ 09:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

yank3 - Reply to #131

"he still enjoy playing ql"

<< Comment #143 @ 09:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Wuss - Reply to #131

Maybe hes allowed to play for fun or give no names a chance to practice with a pro?

<< Comment #147 @ 09:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #131

he is usually just staying on a server and it fills up with random people that wanna play him

<< Comment #154 @ 09:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

cha0z_ - Reply to #131

If you think players like poni,agent,guard,madix,sc00t,bodzo, etc, etc are noobs, ok. Ofc I am not saying he didn't play total noobs too, but that's because he is awesome and don't bash players---> he just join empty server and play whoever join/whatever map his opponent wants.

<< Comment #184 @ 10:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

aiken - Reply to #154

That's it. He's one of a few pros who respects every player.

<< Comment #194 @ 10:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #184

If thats true, my respects for k1llsen!!!

<< Comment #180 @ 10:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

InDepther - Reply to #125

true

<< Comment #126 @ 08:52 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

|[

<< Comment #127 @ 08:52 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

very confident play/aim by killsen, impressive.

<< Comment #128 @ 08:52 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

aeoL

Cooller lol

<< Comment #130 @ 08:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Attyla7

lol @ cooller

<< Comment #132 @ 08:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

fuzz

blitzkrieg

<< Comment #134 @ 08:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid

gotto respect k1llsen. wp, wd.

<< Comment #141 @ 09:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

jetro

Cooller was making a nice comeback on t7 when he suddenly rushed into the teleporter @ mega (last thing k1llsen would except I guess), instead of waiting with rail/LG and ended up getting a couple of random facerockets and eventually lost control.

Hub was just a display of railwhoring and outlucking cooller in the last 45 sec.

Too bad the better player didn't win.

And why on earth are hub/tox/t7 the only maps I've seen. Are the maps fixed or smth? k1llsen would've been destroyed on dm13.

Edited by jetro at 09:06 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #145 @ 09:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #141

"Too bad the better player didn't win."

lol at this.

<< Comment #146 @ 09:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ggnore - Reply to #141

The person who wins, luck, or not is the better player.

<< Comment #148 @ 09:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

jetro - Reply to #146

I hope you're joking with that statement. Seriously, W-T-F.

Edited by jetro at 09:14 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #202 @ 11:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #148

I believe you create your own luck. From what i've gathered, you believe that if rapha played lucky against say strenx for example with his crazy rails then strenx should have won. But, as we all know rapha is the better player.

On the day, whoever wins is better fact

Edited by NicholAs at 11:04 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #150 @ 09:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ffx - Reply to #141

Yeah cooller got unlucky with the better spawn after the double kill hence he ate the two ridiculous rockets from k1llsen to make it fair.

FANBOY

<< Comment #151 @ 09:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

megaman3 - Reply to #141

those last 45 seconds were all cooller's mistakes.

I can't believe he went for the kill after he got that great respawn, control and winning by one frag.

Edited by -=AvengeR=- at 09:18 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #152 @ 09:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Wuss - Reply to #141

cooller got out played

<< Comment #158 @ 09:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

iavoal - Reply to #152

outtrained you mean

<< Comment #144 @ 09:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

dav1d_aka_latuch

shit happend

<< Comment #176 @ 10:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Flav0r

now cooller can warm-up for the fight vs stren-x

<< Comment #149 @ 09:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

r1ddler

cooller killsen aero on the russian stream from my point of view (im a slav) was one of the best things ive experienced in quake

provided me with the daily dose of lol and wtf

<< Comment #153 @ 09:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

aiken

Is anyone else who has impression that k1llsen is playing on 200dpi mouse?

<< Comment #155 @ 09:29 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Lorfa

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackql3

russian stream has rapha strenx

<< Comment #156 @ 09:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Lorfa - Reply to #155

er nm levelup english just switched

<< Comment #157 @ 09:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl

hektik is so lolz ;)

strenx can do this, though.

<< Comment #175 @ 10:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (94.21.35.104)

would like to see a dm13 game finally

<< Comment #174 @ 10:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

I4C

90 % rail for rapha :O

<< Comment #159 @ 09:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

rapha on top of his game today? ;o

<< Comment #160 @ 09:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

pukka3rapha2

<< Comment #161 @ 09:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Ziel

RAWFUHHHHHHHHHHHHH 90%RAIL

<< Comment #162 @ 09:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Wuss - Reply to #161

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE

<< Comment #168 @ 10:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Ziel - Reply to #162

DEVASTATION

<< Comment #173 @ 10:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (94.21.35.104)

rape or be raped!

<< Comment #163 @ 09:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Rapha's rail...

Edited by luanswan2002 at 09:55 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #164 @ 09:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl

inb4 rapha loses grand final because of sens bug. Nothing else can stop him now.

<< Comment #165 @ 09:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

lewl

intense game on toxic city by rapha

<< Comment #166 @ 10:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

I hope K1llsen takes Rapha the fuck out. I believe he has the best style to do it.

<< Comment #172 @ 10:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #166

he has to take on cypher first. gonna be tough. seriously doubt he can do it.

<< Comment #167 @ 10:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^

Selfowned 2:58

Edited by mefajpE^ at 10:01 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #181 @ 10:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

yank3 - Reply to #167

ye, atleast not 2nd

<< Comment #207 @ 11:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Mitritch - Reply to #167

lold hard

<< Comment #169 @ 10:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

nvc hair (rage quit)

o_O

<< Comment #170 @ 10:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

T1E

killsen 8======) ~~~~~~~
rapha 8===========) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
avekkk :======) ~~~~~~~~~~~~

<< Comment #188 @ 10:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

sharpe - Reply to #170

HAHA I GOT IT

<< Comment #219 @ 11:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ffx - Reply to #170

I think you made a mistake in your graphic.

Shouldn't it be a 8 instead of those small dots?

<< Comment #223 @ 11:29 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #170

HAHAHA :D avek, poor avek

<< Comment #171 @ 10:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Daddy_

rofl @ online hero getting raped at online lan :O

<< Comment #178 @ 10:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #171

"online lan"
couldnt be more of a paradox.

<< Comment #182 @ 10:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

palatka - Reply to #171

arent u cheater?

<< Comment #242 @ 12:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

cha0z_ - Reply to #182

he is :<

<< Comment #185 @ 10:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (129.59.115.1) - Reply to #171

Strenx plays on LAN like he plays online, as if he has a massive aim advantage. Except on LAN, both quakecon final and this match he was being outaimed by rapha of all people.

If he can play without an aim advantage he becomes a much better player.

<< Comment #177 @ 10:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

incanu7

rapha looks like a cooller/toxic superhybrid. on steroids.
Pac-man playstyle + aimbot-like hitscan = rape

<< Comment #179 @ 10:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

h8m3

go home and take a clan

<< Comment #189 @ 10:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

dunZ - Reply to #179

take a clan, pzdc:D

<< Comment #183 @ 10:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

buzek

av3k vs. cypher in the final, i'm *serious*

<< Comment #186 @ 10:17 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (129.59.115.1) - Reply to #183

and really homo judging by your liberal use of bad puns

Deleted by Aaron at 12:16 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #190 @ 10:29 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ggnore - Reply to #183

hope so! What's your ql id??????/

<< Comment #201 @ 11:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

buzek - Reply to #190

1buzek2, but why do you ask? :)

<< Comment #187 @ 10:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl

And why exactly can't they get any LAN servers back running within 2 days?

<< Comment #191 @ 10:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

supersonicwaffle - Reply to #187

I'd imagine server maintenance has to run through id-software and it's thanksgiving in America so all the employees are probably with family this weekend.

I'd say there's a good chance this is the reason.

<< Comment #192 @ 10:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

scowl - Reply to #191

Thanksgiving was on Thursday, though. :/
But interesting that rapha is finally coming to Europe even though he misses Thanksgiving.

<< Comment #195 @ 10:41 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (71.11.144.96)

cu on line

<< Comment #193 @ 10:35 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Jamerio '

Strenx/Cooller rage :)

<< Comment #198 @ 10:57 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

I4C

strenx raging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZRfK9T1puk

<< Comment #196 @ 10:50 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

h8m3

Edited by h8m3 at 10:51 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #199 @ 11:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

yank3 - Reply to #196

golden

<< Comment #204 @ 11:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Xsi - Reply to #196

it sounds like a french rap with this music in a background

<< Comment #209 @ 11:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #196

what match? tdm?

<< Comment #213 @ 11:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

h8m3 - Reply to #209

from toxicity with rapha shooting 80% rail

<< Comment #214 @ 11:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #213

hehe. wasnt it 90% ?

<< Comment #228 @ 11:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

lewl - Reply to #214

it was little over 80 at the end. and who gives a shit

<< Comment #224 @ 11:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Memento_Mori - Reply to #196

To me his reaction on toxicity was understandable. There is not much one can do against what rapha pulled out there.

Imho, the real mistake is how he approached the last map. Your mental has been destroyed by ridiculous performances? Fine, that happens. But now ask for a break, take a few minutes off to get your thoughts together (possibly gettin rapha out of that aiming zone). Make sure that you go the next map with your head clear!

Instead, everything went uberfast. Just a few minutes after going spec in toxicity, he was already giving away frag after frag in t7. That is not the way you you approach a decider map at this phase of the tournament.

I'm sad for strenx. I hope he will take the good out of this and learn an important lesson.

edit: he knows already:
"I should make yoga or something..." (c) strenx

Edited by Memento_Mori at 11:33 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #230 @ 11:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ZeriouS - Reply to #224

It seems, that the given time schedule doesn't leave much freedom to do these kind of breaks :/

<< Comment #243 @ 12:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

andysak - Reply to #224

Really?

This was a huge peeve of mine during tournaments. Players requesting (rather, demanding) breaks because they couldn't keep their cool and knew it would hurt their performance the next game.

I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a saint when I played in matches and lost my cool every now and then, but I would never delay matches or anything of that nature because of my emotions. It isn't fair to my opponent that I want to take a 10 minute break to attempt to gather myself when they likely don't want a cool-down after playing so well.

There is no other sport/game out there that I'm aware of that allows players to take breaks just because they're upset at how they're playing.

<< Comment #197 @ 10:51 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

veed

ping 30 ftw

<< Comment #203 @ 11:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

cypher made it look easy... the belarusian delivers!

<< Comment #205 @ 11:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Kirua.

cypher rapha final, with cypher winning. Obvious.

<< Comment #206 @ 11:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd

3:1 score @ t7 , killsen trapped cypher @ RA/SG and let him run away ( I know mega was on, but I would risked with 150+ stack). I think , that coste him this map/set.

<< Comment #215 @ 11:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

luanswan2002 - Reply to #206

I agree , Cypher only had 3 health but K1llsen decides to not go for kill. Cost him the game.

<< Comment #208 @ 11:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd

strenx doesnt know how to play then he losing. then he is winning, he is on fire and doing everything near perfect, then he is losing from map start, he is other player...

<< Comment #218 @ 11:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

sirax - Reply to #208

Same with k1llsen :P

<< Comment #211 @ 11:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

ffx

K1llsen sometimes takes unnecessary fights and his out of control play is just garbage compared to cypher :(. Meh I really thought he could take it vs cypher after beating cooller which is prolly the worst opponent for him. Anyway wp cypher!

Edited by ffx at 11:18 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #212 @ 11:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

caesar_

k1llsen beat cooller on lan? wtf

<< Comment #239 @ 12:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid - Reply to #212

ye, his LG was nothink !

<< Comment #216 @ 11:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

esdf '

rofl, cooller. guess my prediction was off a bit, cooller choked even before semifinals :>>>

<< Comment #220 @ 11:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

first id reverses the gaming industry by pixeling up the game in close-ups (rage vs. doom3), then they make people play with ping 40 on a LAN network in quake... sad.

<< Comment #225 @ 11:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Mitritch - Reply to #220

Nobody can stop the progress, man!

<< Comment #221 @ 11:26 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

funnyb

Previous news: Day1, Day2, Day9

Nice. :D

<< Comment #245 @ 14:21 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (82.124.63.168)

Just a few words from here, to tell you my thinking about this year LAN, i m sad to see this game giving his last breath.

Thx to everyine person who organized this event. I would tell you IDsoftware that will not buy any of there games ever.

Cheers everyone i love u all ;(

<< Comment #226 @ 11:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Six16

What the fuck is this?!

Edited by Six16 at 11:31 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #231 @ 11:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Xsi - Reply to #226

Stop posting your family photos in here. Go to facebook!!

<< Comment #232 @ 11:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

yank3 - Reply to #226

i'm unsure which one is the original

<< Comment #229 @ 11:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

presha

whoa the 720p stream is actually working.. and its so smooth :>

<< Comment #233 @ 11:47 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

dlx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU

<< Comment #234 @ 11:55 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

5hp (c) rapha

<< Comment #241 @ 12:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

fuzz - Reply to #234

jesus was by his side

<< Comment #235 @ 11:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

frs

dont think avek had his wits with him :(

<< Comment #236 @ 12:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

GUArd

what can I say , imho this DH duel tourney is very low level, players doing so much important mistakes and so on. saw just few strong maps in all tourney. maybe it's becose of 30ping...

<< Comment #238 @ 12:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

dunZ - Reply to #236

stronk maps, becuse of 30 pink and take a clan

<< Comment #240 @ 12:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #236

Yes, I have exactly same feeling. Many of players are impatient, make stupid midlevel moves. I get the impression they are all tired of the game and just want to finish games faster, 'cause it feels like it. Still hoping for crazy classic rapha-cypher final.

p.s. bo3 is fucking disgrace to quake. even sc2 has bo5 in semis...

<< Comment #237 @ 12:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

LittleRussianKid

rapha putting a full stop to +forward tactics.

<< Comment #244 @ 14:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (99.6.48.176)

Any no commentary VODs?

<< Comment #246 @ 08:07 CST, 3 December 2011 >>

By

Anonymous (90.231.14.38)

lol here´s that naked guy:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQSBwM6sHU

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