no because it's useless.

I wanna ask, did quake 3 had a lot of cheaters as well or everyone was fair?

ask Sombra

I think he plays ql now

That is correct.

Unleash? I thought it would be http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/s0mbra

Maybe he didn't like the negative attention.

That account is less than a month old

Well, it's natural, that he plays since no one who can strafe is able to let their fingers off of quake completely, the flow of the game is just too addictive! I don't think, that he cheats anymore; he had reached a decent level also without cheating, and since he can not play at online tournaments anymore, because obviously no one is gonna trust him, there is no "reason" to cheat anymore. Also: it seems, that he plays with the best/legit/trustworthy other spanish players. I don't really care and think no one should, I just think it's so typical, that someone who originally stated that he won't play anymore, plays again. Actually I think, that quake more than other games conditions your brain, and provokes (edit:literally) salivation (makes flow your spittle), when you think of hitbeeps f.e.; try it! It's actually a kind of a drug, which is not exceptionally bad, like other drugs.

As much as I would like for SombrA to be clean, there is just no way I will ever trust him in an online environment, especially with the lack of anticheat for QL... who knows, maybe that's the reason he came back, or maybe they caught him cheating at poker! :p

And "best" does not necessarily go hand in hand with "legit" and "trustworthy", they are 2 (3) different concepts, the fact that he plays with the best doesn't mean anything, although I do not currently suspect any of spain's top players.

That said, I do hope he is clean and is able to prove himself on LAN some day before QL dies out completely... and I agree with you 100% on making flow the spittle :D

Unleash cheated today and was caught.

LOL

LOL!

so ur melechesh


Damn you quake is potat.

Fix the german servers pls , since the last update ping +20 , its just unplayable with ping over 80.... And i pay 50 bucks/year for this game ... , alot of friends having the same problem since the last update and they are paying customers too and stopped playing since their ping is fucked up too ....


Too too too too ........

send it to support@quakelive.com?

2 year old necropost.

yep did not notice

Three year old nows!

send it to support@quakelive.com?

LOL

ROFL

You lier...
sombra has been baned because he cheated in quake 3 and you don't want any suspicious in your game.
It's legal, I'm not discussing it, but don't said he used cheats in quake live because you don't have proofs. Even when he played just 4 duel matches yesterday.

regards
river

One time cheater all time cheater...

One time gravedigger all time gravedigger...

"although I do not currently suspect any of spain's top players...."
-melechesh

11 days later....

Unleash cheated today and was caught.
-SyncError

FAIL!

I wish you would learn to read some day.

Sorry, I cant read what you're saying!!!

"as much as I would like for SombrA to be clean, there is just no way I will ever trust him in an online environment ..."
- melechesh

Jamerio, FAIL!

It had less, but there were less players. There were some cheaters in quake3 at all levels, just like quake live, and just like any online game.

More people played QL than Q3?

i beg to differ here. in q3 (at least in osp) communities was country based (netcode + connections at that time) and self-policing. kicking from an already started match helped too. tbh i cant recall ever playing a blatant aimbotter in q3, obv that doesnt mean there wasnt sneaky cheaters... but there was no stats, so nothing to gain besides maybe being regarded as "good" in a community where noone gives a fuck about you until you not show up at a local LAN. punkbuster probably also stopped the easily accessable cheats too. the effort/gain ratio in ql is just simply tragic, hence the high nr. of cheaters.

If an anticheat would ever (or is still?!) be added, it would be only to say "hey, there 's an anticheat here, you can't accuse me of cheating!"
or to stop too much noobs cheating with the basics cheats, for sure not to stop the "veterans", that paying are the very lifeblood of this game, and so of the company behind.
Yes, theres a company, behind, and keep in mind that a company doesn't do nothing for nothing, the base of the economy....
Or there wouldn't be a game in which to cheat or not, at all; (so, you could even start to think that, maybe, you should even be thankful to the kind of peoples you would want to avoid;)
And, finally, an anticheat is expensive to develop/to buy and to keep updated (yes, an anticheat have to be updated; an anticheat not updated would just keep in the kind of peoples mentioned above),
and it would add technical disadvantages, lag.

yea, you are right sir. just had to bring it up. bump

I find it amusing that not even the likes of pavel or evil are capable of surprising strenx online.















































Just sayin'

<rant>
EDIT: I find it amusing that not even the likes of pavel or evil are capable of surprising strenx online when he activates his wallhax, against players where it is needed to secure victory, on maps where he knows that it is impossible to prove that such a high tier player as himself is using wallhax anyway, such as aerowalk and toxicity. This is not your typical retarded hacker, the guy actually knows what will look legit and toggles accordingly, but still I'm surprised at how many people are still "not suspicious at all"... there have been so many questionable moments during the latter stages of every zotac he has played, as well as other online cups (strenx vs amai on ztn @ asus anyone? oh lá lá! le ztn! c'est map est tres dificil! i must pretend i don't know where le amai could possible be, even in ze most obvious of typical ztn situations! i hope zis will be enough to discard any WH accusations!). I've never been suspicious watching cypher play, or killsen, garpy, avek, evil, pavel, fazz, ... every action is a reaction... but when watching strenx play there is just too much bullshit going on to be possible credible. </rant>

Then again, I may be wrong.

evil won a cup to strenx last week :|

he said he is not in the good shape and mood that day

Totally unexpected!

|]

aimbots were going to bed sooner that day

This would be slightly amusing if it were true. Too bad it isn't. :/

easily could be

easily probably could be

fixed

maybe compare demos from such zotacs with his LAN apearance. i duno. strenx gets top rankings at lan. he doesnt need to justify himself i guess. and i´m sure at one point in his career he actaully cheated to get better. like in training matches. i mean they play for money. but if pavel is so openly ranting about him cheating on stream etc...pavel knows more than us

As I see it, if he is capable of winning 100 € most weeks without using WH, why not just toggle WH on a bit and win 100 € every week! Too bad it doesn't actually guarantee a victory, as he may be forced to play on maps where he can't use WH toggling to it's full potential or he occasionally simply get's completely outsmarted by some eastern european, rendering his WH useless. The world isn't made of zeros and ones, there are plenty of points inbetween, nawmeen.

Then again, I may be wrong.

you are my fucking hero dude

dont tell me you like cooller

I FUCKING LOVE COOLLER!

mother of god

you are

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4844/godlikeheader.gif

Why thank you kind sir, that is quite a compliment for an asshole such as myself D:

there are way bigger assholes than you

you seem ok ;D

he is not in good shape these days, that's all

So when he knows what's going on it's proof that he has a wh and when he doesn't he's just acting to cover up the wh? Thank god we have you to protect all those pros who play vs him constantly and haven't accused him of anything.

P.S.: strenx>cooller

"strenx>cooller"

And shootmania>quake? LOLOLOLO

strenx>cooller
12yo>you

all typing no brains...

Too complicated... :/

thankyou for purposefully misinterpreting my already borderline purposefully exaggerated rant

wasn't purposeful

kudos for the troll

And anyway, it's not up to pros to accuse him of anything, they have too much to lose if they are wrong... I on the otherhand, am a nobody, and couldn't give a shit. You shouldn't give a shit about me either.

What are you talking about? They're gonna be subject to some ridicule but what are they gonna loose? Keeping their mouths shut about a suspected cheater who's just owning the zotac on the other hand will make them lose money.

I'm convinced suspicious that strenx has used WH on a regular basis over the last 2 years, and that's all I have to say about the matter.

Then again, I may be wrong.

or you may just stfu.

time will tell

Time has already told us you're a mis-informed liar.
http://www.esreality.com/post/2267878/#pid2267878

Gotta love the influx of newbs quakelive brought in.
All with their made in 2011/12 ESR accounts.

real old school experts and purists of the game :>

Remember to copy that link to your magic .txt for all future arguments.

If only he used his wallhax, maybe he might have actually won a lan instead of all those top 4 finishes at LAN.

I would think the last person you would accuse of hacking is the guy who's attended 90% of quake live lans and finished top 4 consistently and beaten the top quake players on LAN. I'm not even a strenx fan but come on now.

As I see it, if he is capable of winning 100 € most weeks without using WH, why not just toggle WH on a bit and win 100 € every week! Too bad it doesn't actually guarantee a victory, as he may be forced to play on maps where he can't use WH toggling to it's full potential or he occasionally simply get's completely outsmarted by some eastern european, rendering his WH useless. The world isn't made of zeros and ones, there are plenty of points inbetween, nawmeen.

Then again, I may be wrong.

I want you to step back for a second and look at what you wrote: you provide an argument for why he would cheat and in the very next sentence dismiss that argument.

I can't see it.

why not just toggle WH on a bit and win 100 € every week! Too bad it doesn't actually guarantee a victory

Yes, I'm implying that would be the motivation, not the actual outcome.

Then your conviction lies on motive, not evidence.

It's not a conviction, it's a suspicion.

I'm convinced strenx has used WH on a regular basis over the last 2 years, and that's all I have to say about the matter.

In that case, I stand corrected, and shall proceed to edit the comment.

his points are totally correct.
To be able to win, in general, without wallhacks, timers, etc. is not a reason to not cheat, expecially if one day you are not totally in shape, or you are against a player that could beat you, and a player that is in good shape, and a player losing to you have only to lost ( pavel *chough* ).....
Also, to achieve discrete results at lan is not even a reason to don't cheat offline, expecially in minor tournaments like zotacs, expecially against not top tier players (really?) , expecially in the right maps, expecially with the right cheats

Being good at lan vs better competition is not a reason to not cheat vs lesser players who are more often than not with a ping disadvantage? Check yourself!

there's nothing wrong in what i typed.
The simple fact to cheat when being a top 200 is unbelievably unfair, still, a lot of poeples does that.
Cheats are like doping, so there's nothing difficult to understand. Only crazy.
It's like the guys, the sprinters, who have caught doping while being the fastest in the world.... if he would have still won, whight large margin, why did he do that? If u can't understand that, you're at least obtuse, but in that case probably only trolling ;-)

So you too think he cheats because he has motive?

i don't think he cheats because he has a motive, i think he cheats from what i've observed over the years... the motive i mentioned is for everyone who declares him innocent based upon his lan performance...

I declare him innocent until proven guilty.

Nzr0 i always admired you as a player, but what you're saying here is just stupid.

Are you referring to that specific comment or the whole conversation?

and, as it is easy to understand, there is no need to have a motive to cheat......

to cheats, to doping, to win playing unfairly..... is to have MORE

there is no need to have a motive to cheat

ok

here is a more comprehensible example:

it's like the guys who takes viagra while still young and perfectly healthy

This is why finalists and people competing in Zotac cups should be forced to submit their demos, or else they should not receive the prizemoney. This is a usual procedure in any other professional run league, I don't get it, why this is not forced at all...

maybe cause evil and pavel never sneak or set traps? like ever? especially evil he is constantly spamming his jump key 24/7

There has been a steady decline of cheaters and threads like this in the past month.

kkk doesn't count.

are there really that many cheaters or is everyone that whines about them really bad?

one cheater is too many

Second.

There's more than most people think, because for whatever reason there is a long running delusion in the quake community that we don't have cheaters, it's apparently only games like CS where people will cheat.

Only tdm players cheat!

i think it depends a lot on the kind of game: in cs and cod timers hacks are useless, and with the different styles of aims the aimbots are less evident in quake; moreover wallhacks, at high levels, are more useful in a game like quake in which the opponents moves around and teleports fast; plus there is the healt question, totally useless in cs and cod, and also the items to watch

hp isnt useless information at all in cs but i see what ur saying

just pointing that out

i´m just whiny

love the item-timing-cheaters (yes its possible and some ppl using it)

honestly i think the item timing cheat should be the least of your worries. actually i think there should be beginner / >1100 elo servers where the item timer is allowed for the players.

"yes its possible and some ppl using it"

a lot of peoples doesn't even consider them cheats.......
and there are even peoples that says:
" lol! an item timer?! they are not a big advantage, so i don't think there's peoples using that kind of things..... do they really exist?"

you know, the same kind of peoples that says:
" i've never seen a cheater, if there is i would have surely noticed a 50% lg and 80% rail !!!! XD XD "

Actually, item timers help a lot, you can simply focus on the game instead of recalling all the time those timings again and again.

Masterkiefchief420: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKNR8bEWQ8 sync can you explain how this guy isn't banned if you do ban pro subscribers

Syncerror: Master, if he's cheating we'd know.

do this if u get cheaters
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2085051

Reporting in another cheater, hes using wallhack. If somebody cares..

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/_santafu

You are not reporting anyone, merely posting a link on an unofficial forum.

euhueuhu i know smartass. Just reporting to the quake community on ESR. So ppl can call him out, kick him from servers or whatever or make his quake cheating experience as miserable as possible.

I played him today, and it was really suspicious.
I exactly know what skill differences can occur between players in this game, and very rarely, almost never thinking about somebody's cheating - but this was actually fishy.

yes, i 100% he wasnt even trying to hide it sometimes, especially if no one is spectating. I have played q3/ql for 8 years, i am aware just how high the skill ceiling is in this game. But he was very obvious at times.

while i was playing yesterday, sync joined the server and kicked his mate. i asked sync, "isnt stanafu hacker too?", he answered "not atm". so yeah, he probably hecker

he is back http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/santafu

i think that this is another fake of czituch as he is banned on his real acc.

really?

http://www.2shared.com/file/geXeRfJA/_rsk-cheater.html

what am i looking at exactly? i didn't see anything special.

the filename

i guess thats it?

should be all banned on that website 8-{
http://aimbots.net/quake-live-cheats-download...lhook.html

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/raise

Esp_Enabled "1"

tell me you´re kidding.

somebody tell me he is kidding...

he is kidding dude, relax!

Team Stacking and making alts to evade bans and fake skill matching is also cheating.


Unfortunately the majority of this community doesn't agree....and thats why this game has been dead for over 10 years.

Some people actually think this game is still going strong. that can be said about counterstrike. which is still a professionally played respected e-sport with thousdands of players a day minimum.

but it def cannot be said about quakelive which even ID themselves say is a failure.

http://www.quakelivechile.cl/foros/showthread.php?tid=561

Another client-side program that monitors processes and sends screenshots. Has been tried dozens of times before. Been there, done that - failed. Every. Single. Time.

Cheat prevention would be the way to go:
- stop using easily hooked APIs
- only send relevant information to the clients

Both would need quite a bit of development work, and the latter one would put additional load on the servers. So ain't gonna happen, especially since id staff apparently don't mind cheating in the slightest.

QL does basically only send relevant information to the clients.
This is done both to minimize network load, and as cheat protection.
That's why players dissapear when not in PVS.
you can only ever see them through walls with a wallhack (wolfcam cg_wh, ql r_showtris) because they have to be within the PVS at that point to for sound triggers.


- stop using easily hooked APIs

heh, so you want something other than openGL or directX huh? ;p

I always thought that everything disappears when outside of the PVS. That's the purpose of the entire PVS concept, I guess.

Please mind that potentially visible is not the same thing as visible and there is absolutely no need for the client to know the position and orientation of other players, when those players are not visible and make no sound.

At least for me, predefined volumes in the map are not an optimal way to determine relevant information for the clients.

edit:
bingo, no more easy hooks. But as said above, would need lots of work and therefore will not happen. id is simply not interested in preventing cheats - as they see no direct financial gain but lots of cost. Can't say I blame them for that - Why invest in a product that has no significant amount of customers?

On the other hand though, there is a dire need for a way to effectively deal with cases of potential cheating. Sync & Co are doing an abysmal job on that. Either they are the most incompetent morons in the history of video games, or they simply don't give a damn about cheating, or someone is running a little fraudulent p2w scheme on the side.

I'm interested on your explanation why they are doing such a horrible job when dealing with cheaters.
inb4 "They are not doing a horrible job, the system is working fine" - lol

Sync & Co are doing an abysmal job on that. Either they are the most incompetent morons in the history of video games, or they simply don't give a damn about cheating, or someone is running a little fraudulent p2w scheme on the side.

Instead of just stating that they're doing a bad job, suggest what they should do differently.

Also hopefully it's something doable with limited resources.

For starters:
* stop unbanning cheaters """""because of frag videos"""""
* start banning obvious cheaters, before they crank their bots up to 99%

While they are at it, they could also stop giving preferential treatment to certain players and clans. Apparently there are several people who can do pretty much anything without any consequences. This needs to stop as well.

Resources needed: just a little bit of dedication, integrity and honor.

stop unbanning cheaters """""because of frag videos"""""

So this was one guy eh? ZeroQL?

* start banning obvious cheaters, before they crank their bots up to 99%

If they're so obvious, they'd be banned.

While they are at it, they could also stop giving preferential treatment to certain players and clans.

Who? I hope you're not buying into that old school raythenoob stuff about incubus and such. Even if true it was a loooonnng time ago.

If they're so obvious, they'd be banned.

Circular logic much?

Who? I hope you're not buying into that old school raythenoob stuff about incubus and such. Even if true it was a loooonnng time ago.

Discarding arguments by association with raytheboob. If that is your best refutation, I'll have to rest my case.

So this was one guy eh? ZeroQL?

While I think that there should be one (1) second chance for everyone, I also believe that this chance should come with some well defined requirements.

Right now Sync & co just are doing everything more or less arbitrarily or based on personal relations on the player in question. This is in no way fitting for the (e-)sport that we are claiming to be or hoping to become.

Circular logic much?

Obvious cheaters are banned.

I don't think this is disputed really.

You want non-obvious cheaters banned, but they are harder to detect and therefore can get away with it.

Discarding arguments by association with raytheboob. If that is your best refutation, I'll have to rest my case.

You tell me. I have no idea to whom you are referring when you say certain players receive special treatment. You could easily remedy this with examples.

The player I've heard this kind of thing from is raythenoob, and he's mad as a hatter. Blindly accepting the rantings of a madman as truth doesn't give you much credibility.

While I think that there should be one (1) second chance for everyone, I also believe that this chance should come with some well defined requirements.

Such as?

Right now Sync & co just are doing everything more or less arbitrarily or based on personal relations on the player in question.

Can you back this up with more than one example?

Sometimes they have to make a judgement call since the evidence is not quite sufficient enough.

This is in no way fitting for the (e-)sport that we are claiming to be or hoping to become.

I don't think they can be asked to do a better job than any other major title, and they could do as well as them with a lot more resources.

Still though there's only so much that can be done. You think CS:Go is cheat free?

the best example is JustQuake. its lithxiv 110%

Obvious cheaters are banned.

No. Simply no: http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/gsx

I don't think this is disputed really.

You are loosing your grip on reality. Or maybe somehow, you think that "obvious" means 99% lg AND written confession of the culprit. Which is basically loosing your grip on reality as well.

You want non-obvious cheaters banned, but they are harder to detect and therefore can get away with it.

I want the obvious cheaters to be banned, but they are harder to be banned, because naive idiots (and other people with interests) are doing their best to defend them. Maybe you fit into one of those groups?

such as

e.g. http://www.esl.eu/eu/rehab/
I don't care too much about the specific requirements - the important thing is that they are well defined and are applied to everyone in the same way. I don't know if ESL does this, but at least they have some written guidelines.

The word 'obvious' must mean something different to you.

Obvious to me is the dictionary definition: easily perceived or understood; clear, self-evident, or apparent.

If you have demos of this 'gsx' 'obviously' hacking, send em' in. If you did and he's not banned, then perhaps your case was not as 'obvious' as you thought it was.

I am not defending any cheating players, but cheating accusations are a dime a dozen. If everyone accused of cheating was banned there'd be hardly any users left.

As for the ESL thing, this is what you want QL to do? You need to see it written that they ban cheaters? Seriously?

If you have demos of this 'gsx' 'obviously' hacking, send em' in. If you did and he's not banned, then perhaps your case was not as 'obvious' as you thought it was.

Either you are trying to troll me, or you are just not mentally capable of understanding why circular logic can never be a valid argument.

As for the ESL thing, this is what you want QL to do? You need to see it written that they ban cheaters? Seriously?

You didn't even click the link, did you?

Either you are trying to troll me, or you are just not mentally capable of understanding why circular logic can never be a valid argument.

I think this is a misunderstanding.

The more conspicuous a cheat, the greater the likelihood of a ban.

The likelihood of a ban is very high for 'obvious' cheats.

Besides ESR likes this sort of thing. You have a demo of an 'obvious' cheater, you sent it in, they weren't banned. You could then post your demo on ESR and be like hey look, obvious cheater here that goes unbanned.

Then others will look at the demo and be able to more or less confirm the strength of your evidence.

You didn't even click the link, did you?

Yes, I did. lol

How about you explain what it is you want taken from that page?

I can tell you right now, sync/sponge aren't going to be interested in reading essays :-P

http://www.esreality.com/post/2635137/gsx-odd...rag-movie/

""I have no idea to whom you are referring when you say certain players receive special treatment. You could easily remedy this with examples.""

If you're going to label someone as a madman, please disprove that said person does not have these special priveleges. You've seen numerous example of people claiming they got banned for tierslumming. Why do some people get a pass and others don't? Can you explain that?

and the case against Incubus is clear; claiming you have no idea bout his slumming is just not honest. He's a bad egg, always was, always will be. Sadly now that CTF is dead, he's moved on or playing on another alias full time. Just like we knew would happen.

but he has always been protected, claiming otherwise is indeed crazy (keeping in mind that he has 2 accounts in that clan, Amotive being the other one)
http://www.quakelive.com/#!clans/summary/2003

Hi ray

"Even if true"

are you serious right now? who you trying to fool?

Why? What's the point in defending someone who is so clearly guilty of causing so many noobs to ragequit this game? After 6 years, you still can't see the damage him and others like him have caused? Can you be real for a second?

You speak of credibilty but it's very hard for anyone to take you seriously when you can't at the very least agree that guys like that, who were given a pass despite knowledge by sync that he was using 4 accounts at once at one point, have caused a lot of people to quit CTF and the game alltogether.

that's a fair statement and you know that.

Of course id employs favoritism and special treatment.

One little example: during the last year ash, pavel and some other "known" players were able to rename their accounts, while common players were not.

Renaming accounts is a separate issue.

Allowing a few players to get a name change is a long way from allowing players to cheat.

They have every right to mess about with their system as much as they like and not offer it as an option to all.

There is a significant difference between some manual labour for a couple of people and them accepting that it may hose their entire account and offering to spend your entire day doing nothing but the same for thousands.

They used to let just about subscriber change name once, they stopped because it was problematic.

That seems interesting. Was it successful? Is it still implemented in competitions?

I'd go as far as to say that this thing is even counter-productive: Cheaters will hack the shit out of that thing and will have an even easier time fooling gullible people. "I can't possibly be a cheater, I've got this anti-cheat installed - just look at the screenshots".

And then there is the issue whether the people who made this are trustworthy. In the long run there is no alternative to games which were designed with cheat prevention in mind.

Screenshots mean shit when the cheat's hooked in and disables itself for any frame they're taken on :(

Exactly. Any anti-cheat that is client side has to fail rather sooner than later. We need good design instead of lousy addons to a base design, that was never intended to prevent cheating.

Great necropost. 10/10 would bump again.

mad garbage picking whale @#$%

lol @ thread poster how mad are you, drooling crossed eyed mule idiot

http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/99/47/c...b1a95e.gif

Shutup Lorfa.
For once pull your head out of your ass and stop being the problem and start being the solution.


http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/MiamiHF

mysthic and Pr0ph3cY from LG

Mysthic is http://www.qlranks.com/ca/player/dieuz

Lot of alias players in LG always on teamspeak so they know where you are. For sure if there are specs.

hehe nice good info

thought shaft is sometimes 2 hardcore but if smurf mysthic is 2400 Elo dieuz ... =_<

yeah i guess then sometimes 50 shaft is legit

I must agree the past month or so I have seen a surge of cheaters... I could be wrong but it is mainly guys who cannot strafe, rocket jump competently or dodge casually hitting 60 rail, 45 lg. these accs are ofc nothing really suspicious but I feel, aim of that level especially on T4 only comes with experience and cannot be done consistently solely with transferable FPS aim.

Banned for life? No.

Allowed to play Quake Champions? Yes.

Right? No.

ID Care level: No fucks given.

"New game" fresh start

He cost real players, real people some real prize winning money, until he pays them the money that he stole from cheating he is and always will be a scum cunt to me.

edit: nah even if he paid them out he's still a cunt.

Once a cunt, always a cunt.

Yeah, 100% agree, if you're busted cheating, that's it. There is literally nothing you can do to ever revert that status.

Like you said, once a cunt, always a cunt. Pretty accurate.

> There is literally nothing you can do to ever revert that status.

Why do you lie? What if some new player comes along and sees your post?

Please do not fool new players from knowing that if they are caught cheating, they can just make a frag movie and get unbanned.

ok zeroql fanboy

But I hate him. He is id now. He is the devil.

seems we are all in agreement.. once a cunt, always a cunt

zero redemption for cunts

no its not about the game, its about him as a person.

imagine some pedophile teacher molesting and abusing some young kid. and he gets fired, goes to jail yada yada.

but then imagine: they let him out of jail.
NOW, would it be ok for him to be a teacher again in a new school? (new school, new luck)

the amount of mad here is LOL....


CA obese trashcans

everyone better than me is cheater
i am god