40 is leaving it a bit close...

Before we made a drive for 2v2 maps (as part of which, I made solid and cpm25), CPM 2v2 was mostly played on Blood Run and Campgrounds. However, you could consider:
- Devilish. Good size and structure.
- Almost Lost.
- Intervention. A bit big for 2v2, although it was used for 2v2 CPM in the past.
- Trinity. Might easily turn into a racetrack though.
- Dies Irae. Possibly a bit big, and some of the tight corners are very bunny unfriendly (although that isn't necessarily a bad thing).

I put a quad on phrantic if you like your 2v2 cramped and ridiculous...

The other thing we did as part of that 2v2 drive was to have a 15s weapon respawn and 15 min TL. I don't think QL currently allows you to mess with weapon respawn times, which is a shame as we found 15s to be a good balance for 2v2.

Unfortunately you are right, we can't change g_weaponrespawn at the current time (only on offline practice matches) - We found that 30s on 2on2 is well harsh in terms of flow.

Regarding the map suggestions:

Devilish - Liking the layout, not digging the Chaingun on it.

Almost Lost - Not too sure about that one, seems so trench-fight oriented with the two top platforms.

Intervention - Definitely too big.

Trinity - We played that before and it seemed ok, albeit quite big for 2on2.

Dies Irae - Seems too big, not digging the nailgun but it has a nice quad room.


I was thinking more along the scale of Solid, it promotes both control and frags to an extent unlike these big maps where the size and layout could potentially promote more running away.

Anyone in the 2v2 scene may be aware, but I just wanted to bump to note that you can now set the weapon respawn rate via Start-a-Match.

If there are any additional settings that may be useful for 2v2, let us know. I know that 2v2 TDM was hugely popular back in the day and only played by a smaller crowd lately, but it as a lot of potential given that it's fairly easy to get a match going.

Most play still seems to be on Campgrounds, Bloodrun, and Almost Lost. I'd certainly like to see more play on Solid and Devilish in 2v2.

Yeah, it would be nice to see them implement 2v2 TDM settings with the new "ruleset" thing they implemented for PQL since 2v2 TDM has some nice potential. Unfortunately, even if they do add something like that, they probably won't get the settings right :(

Sorrow maybe? Those columns and obstructions may be annoying in vql, but you can probably navigate them with ease in PQL. Gothic Rage also has a layout which seems to promote room control well, only real problem is the quad has height advantage which may make it too easy to control in 2v2.

I agree with swelt's ideas as well.

Sorrow is also quite big, we don't need to make it 2on2 Race just because we have bhops now :>

We played Gothic Rage before and it seemed to have potential.

Guess one can bump this now with the new start a match features.

TL 15 is kinda eh, last quad becomes useless. 14 or 16 much more suitable for powerup maps