Not only that, S3's materials are absurdly cheap. I know it is supposed to destroy the rest spec-wise (though there are 2 versions and just one is awesome), but they cheap out too much.
HTC is miles better in both regards.
As for the iphone5, not interested.
Edited by megaman3 at 06:45 CDT, 14 September 2012
The problem with the S3 is the feel. It's not that the materials are bad because they are supposedly super resistant, it's that they feel like cheap plastic.
Tried it 3 times, because I wanted to buy one. I know I'm (very) picky about materials, but more than looks I need everything to feel and sound decent.
Edited by megaman3 at 17:19 CDT, 14 September 2012
its subjective i guess. ive had an s1 for 2 years, it looks good, feels pretty plasticky but that was fine for me. and it has withstood some pretty heavy abuse.
i recently had a chance to compare an s3 and a one x and both felt equally plasticky to me.
ps: also wtf is with the phones being dual core in the usa. fucking alskdjflaskjdflaskjflkasjflkasdjf.
S3? haha it's far from best. size is horrible like holding a brick next to your head and materials are cheap like someone mentioned. specs are nothing special since almost all smart phones are pretty decent in speed anyway.
the touchscreen works best on iPhone just like the trackpad on Apple laptops. not to mention iOS and itunes which are well organized, sorted and maintained to run which makes it a safe enviroment to work in.
iOS is horrible. S3 is too big and plasty. iPhone and S3 lacks optical scroll wheel, which is why I use my HTC Desire and will do untill another phone with REAL BUTTONS and optical scrill wheel gets realeased.
Also Android is a Linux dist. You can't compare any OS vs Linux if speed and safety is what you want imo. My GF's HTC Desire boots after around 30 sec.
Edited by Snapphanen at 07:46 CDT, 15 September 2012
iOS is everything but horrible. people want simplicity and functionality thats something Linux can not provide. linux is still aimed at so called "enhusiasts".
HTC are OK phones. they have a very high rate of 'breaking-down' tho.
endless 1 line menus in b&w. not to mention RIM is currently having big financial problems implying less people like it.
also the qwerty keyboard is something nery few people want its either a classic phone with a standart keyboard or a touch screen phone. not everyone has small fingers.
you obviously never typed on a qwerty keyboard in a phone :-0
its much more enjoyable, even with big fingers, than typing on a touch screen. i myself have rather thick fingers, and never had problems with qwerty phones.
too bad i have most of my music on iCloud(c)(tm) now, which i pirated and then iMatched(c)(tm), which allows me to listen to it anywhere with iphone. windows phone 8 is missing important pieces of the ecosystem.
i bet it has its own systems and works fine if you are bothered changing all of those to windowsphone ones :F it's kinda shame if 920 (arguably the best phone in market (soon)) doesn't take off only because of people don't wanna change to a new ecosystem
i wouldn't bet on it. as far as I know, they don't have any matching service. only amazon, and google have those, and they don't support internationalization nearly as well as iTunes.
Edited by Demiurge at 22:29 CDT, 20 September 2012
i wasn't making an argument, i was stating my requirement for a phone. however, there are many faults in your argument -_
1. if you are running out of bandwith, you are poor. i am not poor, i don't care. also, i am on wireless most of the time and most of the stuff is cached.
2. an alternative way to listen to music anywhere on iphone? i don't need one. i have 32GB of storage on mine, and it's being used to cache the songs I listen to the most, out of 70GB I have.
storing in the cloud makes all the sense, because it is convenient, and I don't have to set up a server or think about it. you may as well actually try the service instead of making shit up because the quality of the music based on my usage is indistinguishable from the original. in fact, I have never heard it downsample, even with a bad signal, it just chooses to stop. also, I do stream from last.fm, when I want to listen to new music. however, most of the time i know exactly what I want to listen to, i have already downloaded and its in my library.
no, it shouldn't be on my sd card, or on anything. what should be, is that I can listen to whatever I want, wherever I am, without the slightest concern about where the music is coming from.
Edited by Demiurge at 17:38 CDT, 22 September 2012
"exactly, 32GB storage is more than enough for storing your music."
what? is 32GB more than enough for storing 70GB of my music?
yeah, it's a requirement. i don't want to c+p my songs. i don't want to know how much storage my iphone has. i want to listen to any song. it is impossible with what you're suggesting, yet possible with what I already have, even if a song stutters once in the blue moon. which part of how what I have is most convenient, and is a requirement for me to get any other phone, do you not understand?
Edited by Demiurge at 18:44 CDT, 22 September 2012
it is the stupidest thing ever to say that me choosing what is the most convenient thing is somehow a 'stupid requirement'.
no, i don't need 70GB of storage for my music. I have 70GB of music. period. it is a medium sized collection with a lot of artists and genres I want to be able to listen to. i happen to be able to do it, and i see no reason to stop doing it. I don't care how much music you have, or what your habits or shitty tastes are, but such are my tastes. i'm not going to tell you that you are stupid because your entire world view can fit on a 3.5 floppy, but I am going to tell you to stop projecting and giving out shitty advice. regardless of how much local storage one has, internet and instantaneous communication will always be better than stone tablets. you can't stop the future.
??? no, a cloud isn't going to crush, neither is internet. unless its a crush of the civilization, because it's a distributed server system. even if there is a disruption in service in some unlikely scenario, why the fuck would I choose to voluntarily disrupt my service right now? it's like telling me I should cut off my leg and use crutches because I might be temporarily paralyzed for a few days in the future. yeah, thanks a lot, brilliant idea!
Edited by Demiurge at 09:32 CDT, 23 September 2012
But the S3 feels like a cheap plastic brick. "HTC One X" maybe? Comes with Tegra3 chipset and 720p display. Even though the Samsungs are pretty good technically, I'd never buy one.
If I wanted to flash my phone I'd buy HTC as well just because of the manufacturing quality. However, I got the nexus because it gets the newest stuff first and I don't feel like changing the ROM.
I wasn't really offended rather buffled that even "grown" up people categorize persons on their possessions like teenagers did with cell phones back then. But y stupid people do study too and not overly few :P
galaxy s2 skyrocket user. its better than my iphone 4 was. The iphone 4 was bulit better than the skyrocket, but everyone puts a fuckin' case on their phone anyway. All you see is the screen and a few buttons. The screen is great.
fuck smart phones. I use a nokia rm 258 and it suits all my needs - it's robust, you can call niggaz and write letterz 'n' shit.
All this ultra-modern iphone samsung hyundai bmw bullshit is superfluous.
I feel for you. What I pretty much use my phone besides occasional calls, is to use the flashlight of the 5 MPixel (owowowowowowow) camera to illuminate in the dark.
Edited by nYmPhets at 10:51 CDT, 20 September 2012
Do you really need one? I dont even have internet on mine because I like to be disconnected for a time, all i do is listen to music, reading comics and 'calling nigz'.
I need mine for work. Constant e-mail and internet usage, gps on the fly, decent photos and many useful apps (dropbox, google calendar and document etc) when I'm working. Otherwise I would agree, but right now without a smartphone I'm in deep, deep shit.
Edited by super_koziol at 17:45 CDT, 15 September 2012
ive got an s3, it works well. i can see why apple went with the tall and slim screen model though as the s3 is right on the limit of usability with one hand.
seeing as i use my phone to phone,txt,listen to music, browse reddit on the go, watch youtube videos in bed at night and use maps (lol@ iOS6) to get around it does its job well.
for my uses the big screen does its job well and comes in very handy, for people that have to use their phone alot for games and other apps and what not, the big form factor may be an issue.
one thing to consider about apple is the current maps debacle. hopefully google will get their maps app out quickly enough, but if they dont, be aware that the new iOS6 maps app is very poor when it comes to basic functionality - maps lack alot of detail and are often inaccurate. for me, this is a deal breaker as the maps function is just about one of the best things a smartphone does... it sets a precedent where apple now ship new software/functionality which is inferior in quality only because it benefits them in their techwar with google and not their customers.
I would get an android phone, just bear in mind that some of the samsung devices definately cross into tablet country (i have a galaxy tab and its a POS) so make sure you get one thats comfortable for you and what you intend to use it for.
Edited by thelawenforcer at 04:47 CDT, 21 September 2012
i dont find it a deal breaker since u have hundreds of map apps to buy which work far better then anything on default by google or apple. since these phones cost some real money it shoudn't be an issue to buy the app not to mention that for google maps its using data transfer so when u go abroad u cant use coz of the roaming charges. with the app you just dl the maps u need and use the gps.
im not talking about features and what not which is what these mapping apps bring, but the underlying dataset.
for me, google has done a simply amazing job on this and their maps (whilst by no means perfect) are simply alot more usable. it takes years to build up the amount of data and even more work to interpret and deliver it to consumers in a good way.
(i can make google maps available offline aswell...)
also, i cannot in good faith patronise a company that so blatently puts its own interests above those of its customers. The removal of google apps has nothing to do with delivering better service or functionality, its all about limiting competition and locking users into the walled garden.
I dont know about you but i buy products that serve me, and not the other way around.
rationalise it however you want but this move makes clear as day what everyone always suspected.
Edited by thelawenforcer at 07:15 CDT, 22 September 2012
"also, i cannot in good faith patronise a company that so blatently puts its own interests above those of its customers"
goes to google as much as it does to apple if not more. no other company has abused more personal rights and violeted private policies than google.
and i definitely buy products that serve me thats why i have an iphone and still is the best phone on the market. it serves me and i dont serve it. i dont have to spend hours on simple scrolling though the menus or sending emails and such. i want a tool and i want it to be easy to use. i dont have time to spend on configuring it or figuring it out. and google has "borrowed" everything from iphone/ios there is to borrow layout and graphics.
if you were to put away your personal preferences and personal anguish and envy on people that have it you might realize that theres a better phone then what you have and blatantly support.
edit: also i support a company that has character and is innovative and is ready to put forward fresh ideas and go with the risk just because they know its better.
Edited by viaIImaximus at 14:08 CDT, 22 September 2012
Lumia 920 looks interesting wp8 seems to be good, Nokia maps i know is very good. But dunno about marketplace. I tried wp7 when it was new and kinda liked it, but marketplace was miles behind appstore and playstore( which was expected but didnt think it would be as bad as it was or rather didnt think it would annoy me as much as it did). Anyone using wp7 now thats also have used iphone/android phones? If so are you happy with the state of wp in terms of apps, functionality? Etc.
Smartphones... The current different models are good for different people.
iOS is suited to the average Joe, the standard people who just want their phones to do phone stuff (i mean basic smartphone operations like web browsing,media, communicating) and not much else. And they want their phone to be amazing at that simplistic stuff.
Android is stupendously better for people who like to tinker with their phones, customize them, do advanced stuff and all in all use their phone as a portable version of a full-on desktop computer. Apple is no match for the ease and simplicity with which android supports that sort of stuff.
As for HTC vs Samsung, just whatever both have their perks but it's nothing major. Samsung has the SAMOLED screen which rapes S-LCD in terms of contrast and vibrant colours and outdoor visibility. You may prefer the stylish HTC looks. You may want a massive screen and tons of unique and useful features (Galaxy Note 2). None of them are amazingly better than the other so there is really no need to vehemently defend your camp or even exhibit any degree of fanboyism.
my nexus 4 front glass cracked and touch input would no longer properly. i wasn't fond of lg's repair policy nor could i find a reasonable screen part for cheap so i bought a one s for $180 and installed cm10.1 :)