Twitch \o/

Thank god for twitch I love watching games with more lag in between!

Thank god for twitch I love actually being able to watch games!

You can't watch own3d? twitch tends to lag always for me and own3d never does.

I have the opposite effect, sir.

It's true that not everyone is better off with twitch than own3d, but my recent ABSOLUTELY serious studies of esr comments and stream chats show that you are actually in minority:]

Well doesn't that suck :D

Same for me :( Oh well, i guess no more faceit for me.
Was good while it lasted.

thank god twitch! reasonable move there have a [+]

Now I'll watch.

It's about time :)

inb4 "OMG STREAM IS WORSE THAN IT WAS WHAT HAPPENED GET BACK TO OWN3D WHY EVERYTHING IS SO BAD WHY WHY WHAAAAY?"

nostradamus

same thing happened when lvlup switched to twitch :D

for me both were fine usually

At least their player isn't cpu hog and let's your rewind the vods.

I hope you tested twitch and it don't lags? You know, just in case.

We tested it, but you never know. Own3D worked fine for everyone of the staff too. So the only real test can be done on Sunday.

glhf

Twitch, finally ! :D

Thanks for listening to the community. Twitch is a much better platform!

insta and better vod than own3d ftw

twitch3d

Cool, finally will be able to watch vods?

Yes sir!

n1 FACEIT and thx!

Too bad you're moving away from Own3d.

all quake streams should be on one site. Twitch is better.

Yes, it's indeed better to pull Quake away from various channels. I suggest we remove all Quake related videos from Youtube and rehost them on Twitch.

twitch is by far more popular than own3d, including quake streams, so "we" don't lose much by quake not being on own3d.

dont need various channels if we localize on the biggest.

Roy, don't even doubt that twitch is better than own3d - it's REALLY better in every way u put it. The player, the vod recording, the quality switching - twitch does what own3d don't.
Ofc, u might consider changing some picmip;) (like 5 or smth - just to make things perfect), but believe me (and check it out urself) - twitch is a much more comfortable platform for viewers AND streamers.

I've used both :)

great

twitch is much better then own3d =)

Faceit only surprise for the better and keep improving each week.

Keep up the good work!!

NICE , we can follow you on iphone ^^

You mean "on our android devices" don't you?!

Yea .

I've never had a problem watching content on own3d, but am I the only one who can't fuckin skip through VOD's? They always just restart at the start except the timer is where I skipped to!

FU OWN3D! Cheers Twitch!

You have to wait for it to buffer to skip through.

Yea, I know... that's why it sucks. ;)

http://www.esreality.com/post/2356047/faceit-...pid2356105

me too, twitch has better vods

Yeah this is nonsense.

it does work if you look at the source code for the vod and open it with VLC

hurray for twitch! mobile viewing now possible

Happy to have FACEIT on Twitch. We'll be promoting this shiz :)

much appreciated

as long as promoting doesn't mean casting in it. :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

JK LUV U BRUV

<3

the only downside i can think of is, vod viewing of twitch is banned in china,
whilst that of own3d is not

How many Chinese viewers are there?
I doubt many if even in the double digit numbers.


Also I'm sure there are work arounds...

there still is a community. bbs.wasdcn.com
just saying

yes there are work arounds. but its not worthy to try so hard just to watch a recorded match for most.

afterall twitch viewing exp is a lot better 4me. i myself live outside china.

1 Chinese viewer is enough. Jibo \:D/

Its not fair to blame twitch for the utterly insane policies of China. If you live in China and you are a nerd, you need VPN. There are multiple providers of such.

Since when censorship is called "utterly insane policy"?

You cant possibly be serious?

Serious about What?
Censorship isn't insane at all and twitch.tv is blocked in China because of it.

You comment on ESR. I assume you also enjoy watching quake streams/vods from time to time. Yet you seem to think that its perfectly fine for a government to take away your ability to do this. Im not following you. Maybe you're a masochist?

BTW, Mikko Hypponen recently advertised Strong VPN , if anyone that needs a VPN solution in China.

Correct. You aren't following me. In my opinion it's opposite to "perfectly fine".
I just stated that censorship isn't "insane policy". Firstly it isn't insane - it's works very well for malicious purposes.
Secondly I believe that it's important to call such things by they real name. This is what the totalitarian regime doesn't want you to do. There are many "insane policies" in my country but there isn't censorship.

too bad that own3d doesn't seem to be able to keep up with twich, if I remember correctly it was founded/run by former german/austrian quake star d1ablo?

Twitch is the best if you want Quake to be noticed by people who don't know about it.

I only had problems with own3d when i brought the UI up, otherwise it worked fine. Let's see if twitch lags (lagged all the time for Dreamhack stream)

Interesting. While i dont love Own3d (I mostly dislike their horrible video player - It can only be described as a sad joke. Never had connection issues with them however.), having everything on twitch is terrible for the streaming community. A monopoly is never good for the users.

With the way things are going, i have no doubt own3d will be dead within 12-24 months. Who can provide competition for twitch? It will be interesting to see what happens when youtube rolls out its streaming feature, but AFAIK very little info has been released so far. It does not appear to be ready anytime soon. Maybe ustream?

own3d has better live stream but shit vod system. on the other hand, twitch has a shitty live stream most of the time, but at least vods you can seek. not that anyone watches ql vods tho...

Thank GOD for twitch!!

Thanks FaceIT staff for listening to the cries of anguish and doing something about it...

:D

Yay. Perhaps even HD video streaming. FaceIt actually faced the fact that own3d sucked for most of the viewers.

Yeah, it doesnt make sense that 720p streams smoothly for me on Twitch and 480p sticks like crazy on Own3d :/

Well there were times where i couldnt stream 240p at all on own3d with a 90 mbps line.. :D

T W I T C H
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faceit, you should be using both.

what im looking forward to more than the cup is the potential announcement of more players

So skimming through the thread I found out there are more people with issues on twitch.tv rather than own3d.

I'm not sure what's going on any more.

no reason to argue this factually based statistic

It's always the people who are unhappy to comment, why should I say anything if I'm content..

Are you kidding? There were way more people complaining about own3d in the first FaceIt threads. Maybe they don't bother going on those anymore though and won't notice the change.

I know I know, not saying there are more people with twitch issues, it was just surprising to me to see that no matter which streaming site you use, there will always be people who won't be able to watch it.

Previous threads gave me an impression that twitch works flawlessly for everyone.

internet is garbage today. Shouldn't surprise =)

I'm so looking forward to the annoucement of next 2 legends :D

it'll be 2 active players (like voo and czm) and people will whine. You heard it here first.

toxic is active

"active" as in playing duel 3 times a year, pubstomp, lose against top players and retire again.

Plays as much as vo0 and czm if not more.

only when he is not "retired" (breaks)

attends to less duel lans

plays far less online tournaments

and most importantly, who wouldn't want to see theTOXINATOR

All that you're saying can be also said about vo0/czm.

99% of the esr community prefers watching tox over voo. Limited spots.

Someone said earlier no more faceit for them, because they couldn't watch the Live stream..lmao. Look it up later and watch uninterrupted. No difference than the stream, other than being live(which doesn't matter), and less lag!

Maybe others are experiencing this too, but I can't signup. Nothing happens if I click the sunday cups link at the face-it site. Or has the sign-up closed already? THought it would be 14 to 15 for sign up and check-in?
Sunday cup is greyed out when I click on play. When I click on go, at the home page nothing happens...
It worked now

And thanks for joining :)


Some big names playing today, gonna be gud.

pretty stacked tournament! excited! (inb4 hd only stream:])

edit: the quality options are already there. job well done!!!

memento!!!

Brackets please

I'd like to have the choice between the commented and uncommented stream, to be able just to focus on the ingame action and not the chit-chat.

You can hide the chatbox if you wish.

With chit-chat I meant the commentary, the casters (today: zoot and ddk).

Stream is wonderful!

Yes. I can watch it at last.

So apparently now FaceIT streams it exclusively, no other streams allowed. Poor ruskies :X

p.s. this is sad, Russian stream had pretty much the same numbers as FaceIT stream last cup.

or they could just learn english? )))

Wow, thank you. That might actually work. But am really not sure, but maybe yes. Maybe.

I don't understand Russian, but I enjoyed the Russian commentary style more than the one in English ^^

maybe it is you who should learn russian, because russian stream was getting more viewers than english one from time to time. own3d/xpand combined. :)

why do the russians need a separate stream though? hardly any of the viewers are native english speakers and you dont see them complaning about not having a say, swedish stream.

because why not?

there are ppl in russian community willing to cast matches, so why disallow them? i always prefered polish streams, when they were avi...

why do ppl need english stream and not just watch russian one?

russian is hardly consider an international language

english is hardly considered a quake language

we could go on for days

speaking foreign languages is not that important in russia, so there are a lot of people who don't know any other language than russian (aside from probably their native language - russia is huge and multi-national).

also, russia is the country where the quake is still somewhat popular, so why you think we should deny it's promotion in such rewarding environment?

and a lot of citizens of neighbouring countries are speaking russian too.

faceit should actually build a studio in moscow, and hire russian casters... this way both sides would be happy?

4ce, the russian streamer of faceit, is living in small town near saint-petersburg, has his own "studio" with wall-sized boobs poster, has comparable (sometimes more) viewers count and works, as i understand, for free.

i really don't understand, why faceit didn't let him stream anymore. another studio would be an overkill.

SyncError I saw you in the twitch.tv-chat. In case you have missed the news, read what I would be willing to do, to proof that I have not cheated and that your QL-anticheat system is buggy in, at least, my case.

-> section II. Reaching new levels or proof.

Banned since 07.10.2012 without any proof or appropriate response besides ID-Software, QL-Team or representatives such as Sasparillo (ql abuse team) or you (community manager).

It wasn't the real SyncError.

synceRRRorofl....
But in all seriousness, I really hope your problem gets resolved Zerious!

Ty!

Twitch = Finally a decent stream for Android!

Android = Finally a decent OS for Smartphones!

twitch.tv = 720p no problem stream, thx guyz!

stream is so laggy with twitch...plz go back to own3d or anything else that doesn't lag.

not sure if trolling or stupid

me neither

BAKSTEEN BABY!

Baksteen has been playing some Hitman...

where are the brackets?
the faceit site is totally useless.

http://faceit.com/tournaments/9c33ee02-4a3c-4...oreboard/3

thx

http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/9f20e04d3f4ac415.html
in this place :)

looks like u need to be logged in for that.

railmagnetsteen

baksteen so fishy as always...

cu@lan

C Y P H E R
39/57 rail ez

zadrot ebany

it works SO GOOD on twitch.tv!

It is lagging for me in 720p+ was good with own3D. Connection 80/20 :(((

Ye same shit, lagging only at 720p+

Yepp for me too it only laggs in 720p+ others are fine.

yes it lags so much, plz back to own3d

You do understand this would mean they're going in circles and no matter which streaming they pick someone will always tell them to switch.

For me it only lags on 720+.
720 is perfect, while on Own3d I had lags on 360 and 480/best looked like 240.

Twitch is perfectly fine, stop complaining just because the highest quality isn't perfect (yet).



Faceit keep up the good work

this.

... tnx faceit.tv

exactly! with twitch i have 720p stream, with own3d i have lagged 360p, 480 is a drama, 720p mmmm dreeeeam :)

don't ditch the twitch switch, bitch ;(

Same and every other stream is running fine for me.

HAROSH

dumb russians.

swap dismemberment with vertical vengeance!

Video stutters, but Audio is fine.

all fine here


btw: good matches

i'm watching in 720p+ and had that, too.

but now it's absolutely fine. i didn't change anything, just refreshed the site a few times.

some good viewer count.

cause they literally shit on russians which now got to look at zoot's face

Oh you poor tortured soul.

2 russians 1 cup

Not allowing Russians to have a stream of their own might be a good idea for the first few weeks on twitch - QL needs to be promoted and there's no way twitch.tv is going to feature a stream with 400 viewers on the main page.

The fact that we can rack up to 1400 viewers if we centralize all viewers is great. If the supposedly dead game can reach this kind of numbers for a simple sunday cup, we're doing just fine.

However, giving people more options is always welcome.
Maybe someone has some streaming issues with twitch, maybe someone really dislikes picmip 0, maybe someone just wants to listen to stream in native language... there's no point in limiting the already small and limited community.

That's why having an alternative stream, be it Russian or non-casted shouldn't harm anyone - but latest weeks only racked up half of those numbers so it's up to us to decide - either centralize and show up in bigger numbers or spread across 4 different streams and show up with 300-400 viewers on main stream.


This thing could somehow work if you had the main stream, the russian stream and the non-casted stream all on the same page, accumulating the same numbers of viewers.

.

Make it triple then:
1- no commentary
2- English
3- Russian

This.

agreed

no.

russian stream had slightly lower bitrate, but high picmip, so it was smooth looking and less stuttering. not to mention that picmip 0 official stream is unwatchable on less than 720p (just look at that horrible squares of 480p! can't see anything there, but high picmip even on 360p is actually looking rather good).

also, i think, there will be a lot of syncing issues for commentators, because at some points there will be buffering, which fucks up paralleling events completely. video usually has delays, audio - not so much. syncing video to commentator, then syncing it with his voice, then passing it on for viewers is a hard process. if it was gtv, then there would be no problem. but it's not gtv.

but even if we somehow overcome syncing, streamers are a little directors themselves, so they are want to change pov, show accuracies, or show their glooming faces sometimes. we shouldn't deny them that possibility.

all in all, #Let4ceToStream #FreeNined #FreeJamalz #BanBackZeroQL #SomethingElseIForgot

last two maps of final...

so much aimwhoring :--0

Why dismemberment instead of T4 for legends cup?
As far as I know T4 was much more played in the old days and in QL too.

ty for cup faceit

omg dismemberment and t7 instead of t2/t4 and aerowalk? omgogmogmogomomogomgomgomomg

omg played in ql instead of q3? gomggogmgomgomgomgogmogmogggg

some people really want to watch the world burn

Great final and amazing ztn evil VS pavel.
Thanks for the show guys.

what are the new names for legend cup?

We're announcing them coming days, no one new today.

So the maps are Campgrounds, Blood Run, Lost World, Furious Heights and Dismemberment. We can't pick any more maps, because players will have to practice even more nowadays uncommon maps. This was all decided together with the players.

Gentlemen, where can I see todays VODs?

"switch to twitch"

watchable stream, watchable vods... at last!
nice work guys

Can you show me where the VODs are WOLF? :-)

1) go to http://de.twitch.tv/faceittv
2) click the little box on the lower area of the page that has "FACEIT Sunday Cup" written right next to it
3) fap to the content you see

Thank you flynnT! Somehow I didn't find this site. Thanks a lot.

very sorry Zarathustra
didn't see your request.
hope you are enjoying the vods now :-)

thanx flynnT

can you help me :p it only shows other channels at the bottom of mine.

Go here: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/new
And click on the "Video" button on the right.

100Mbit here and it's taking ages for the VOD to load.

Didn't you see my two posts about me searching the VODs before you posted your comment? :-P Much love.

Think twice.

twitch has better emoticons therefore twitch is better

Kappa

Awesome job by the organizers and the casters, thank you for your efforts they're not in vain. Way to promote Quake in these hard times.

Twitch worked perfectly for me. To those whom are complaining there are three possible solutions to your predicament:

1. Get better hardware, specifically the CPU
2. Get more bandwidth on your connection
3. Both

P.S. Welcome to the 21st century.

don't you know about routing issues? having 100Mbit/s connection doesn't guarantee you normal viewing experience, because somewhere on that way can be packet drops.

and many people can't solve that by changing their internet provider, because in some locations all ISPs have connection limitations. geography have a huge impact on whether you can watch hd stream or not.

catched up with most of the games. Cypher being Cypher, it's like Neo from Matrix: the only way to beat him is to have an army of robots, declare war to Belarussia and kill him IRL.
That or agent Hendrixson.

someone upload the demos from the final. not too much to ask from a serious organization, is it faceit?

We will do that for you as soon as Cypher has send them to us. In the meantime you can watch the VODs:

Map 1: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/c/1767550
Map 2: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/c/1767558
Map 3: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/c/1767566
Map 4: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/c/1767572

at 6:20 (video time) map1, cypher hits a lot of lg with crosshair too far behind (left of) evil, I thought that wasn't supposed to happen anymore. Bug, I guess...

so where them demoz at?

Daddy_ you need to post a youtube video where you beg in tears for demos (like the 3 year old girl crying for justin bieber) and that just for cypher POV demos , don't ask what you need to do to get the rest of demos ... :)