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hell yeah !

Mostly ME playing on a shit laptop 1024x768@60Hz with a shit MS basic optical mouse on UbuntuKDE 12.04LTS Linux & Asus EeeBox PC EB1501 (1280x1024@60Hz)

incl screen & mouselag !

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_31-20_42_48.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_25-12_35_46.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_25-12_49_27.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_25-20_31_36.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_27-19_29_44.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_29-20_11_17.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-longestyard-2013_05_31-20_42_48.dm_73' FFA on The LongestYard w/ flight, ammo & changed physics

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-cliffside-2013_06_03-19_32_58.dm_73' FFA on Cliffside with quad damage & invulnerability power up

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-cliffside-2013_06_28-19_28_12.dm_73' FFA on Cliffside with changed weapons

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-overkill-2013_08_31-13_22_37.dm_73' Quake Live with low gravity 250 setting and BFG


Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-almostlost-2013_08_31-11_50_40.dm_73' Quake Live with 250 gravity setting and BFG


Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-thunderstruck-2013_08_31-11_35_24.dm_73' Quake Live with 250 gravity setting and BFG


Quake Live: 'ZeRo4(POV)-vs-carnage-longestyard-2013_08_01-15_59_33.dm_73' The Longest Yard Rocket ONLY !

Quake Live: 'ZeRo4(POV)-vs-carnage-longestyard-2013_08_01-16_10_10.dm_73' The Longest Yard Rocket ONLY !

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you my friend are a fucking genious.

How does releasing a kickass demo renderer make him a brand of Eastern European computer peripherals?

Learn English crazy faggot.

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totally awesome sauce

Isn't this really resource-intensive?
Also you may consider a 720p but 50/60FPS option

Yes, it is quite resource intense, but that is kind of the nature of the beast I suppose.

I'll note those rendering options down. I was thinking about adding additional rendering options to that page. Thank you for the suggestion.

Amazing work, going to try it out tomorow!

Then my youtube channel will be absolutely full of old Russian q3 demos

Mav is the best. :)

omg omgoo gomogmog ogmogmogo gomgomgomgomgomgomgogmg

Wow, this is truly beautiful! I guess you will encounter certain costs for running the server, so kudos for offering this for free! [+]

I've had to dedicate a fair amount of the machine directly to the rendering and encoding process. Hah, maybe I'll setup a donation button once the site goes live. I guess I could also have some sort of donator-only rendering options.

Hell, maybe you could even call it a 'pro-subscription' :)

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Lol, this is quality, it's good that people like you do good stuffs like this.

That's nice and all but I don't see the point.
If someone cba to "mess with wolfcam" then perhaps the demo isn't worth it anyway?

Well, I figure there are two types of people who are reading this article and are thinking about rendering:

1) The person who takes a demo and wants to show it to others and/or replay it for themselves and nothing else

2) The person who wants to render it and make it into a movie.

This rendering site is really for the 1) group above who want to view the demo; putting the extra effort into setting up a huge wolfcamql installation with configs, etc isn't worth the effort since this may be a one-time thing or they just don't want to invest the time. Hell, I'm one of those people. I have no desire to make wolfcam configs (which is why I asked someone else). This would be especially handy for a group like 125fps or Face It who hold tourneys and generate a ton of demos, but probably don't want to render every single demo, encode them, and then upload them. It's a lot of manual labor unless you go through the effort to automate it.

If you're a movie maker this kind of system just isn't really for you, since you probably have a slew of custom configs, fx scripts, and textures.

Thoughts?

I think it makes sense. There is definitely a niche for this. I think it may make sense if the automatic upload to youtube remains optional, since one may still want to do some offline editing. I'm guessing the youtube account would be a unique one, so youtube's simple editing features would not be available, correct?

One abuse of this service that I hope does not happen is to carry cheats accusations. Youtube is plain bad for that, especially if we are talking about humanized bots, since aim gets choppy and all.

Overall you are doing a great service!

Why on earth would someone render the demo to watch it or show to few other players? Demos are technically superior in almost every aspect (but portability).

Game commentary and movies require different means anyway.

I'm sure ppl will use it. Youtube is already full of ordinary demos that nobody watches.

Sorry if I sound harsh, I appreciate your devotion and effort put into it. I just don't see it being beneficial.
On the other can't really criticize you because I'm myself 'guilty' of many such not very beneficial efforts I did just because I could. Gj implementing your idea :-)

I guess I've got mixed feelings about the demo versus video. I definitely agree that a demo is superior to a video given that it is really small and provides more data to the viewer. Having said that, streaming a video almost outweighs those benefits since it is super easy to go to youtube.com; you don't have to download a demo, run quakelive/quake3 and play it there.

Oh, you don't sound harsh, we're just having a conversation. Logical feedback is always good.

I'm putting this project on my resume anyway. Haha.

I'll will watch my demos then on my streaming device Asus HDP-R1 on my home cinema system in 1080p !
Like the streams from Twitch & YT >8-) AWESOME !

This is awesome!

P.S: All registration e-mails of the website will go to junk/spam folder by default. So for anyone wondering where the verification link is, check those folders.

thank you! :)

Thanks. Maybe I'm missing some SMTP or DNS setting.

TRY THIS !
https://igmdb.org/?page=login
http://igmdb.org/?page=login

WHY i must double log in after setting the X by remember me and going to http://www.igmdb.org/?page=render

whitout the www it works fine
http://igmdb.org/?page=render

seems to be some error

Hello Maverick :o)

Mav is the biggest Quake legend.

Thanks for keeping Quake alive Mav' !

Can you do a similar tool where you paste a cfg and you get a screenshot? QL cfgs are a nightmare.

Wolfcam has the ability to only render a portion of a demo, so that'll be a feature for the future. I'll have to verify if ioquake3 does that, however I'm a bit skeptical about that. Regardless, ffmpeg, which does the x264 encoding, will generate screenshots and allow you to only grab portions of the movie, so that is always a last resort.

If you are only trying to see a single image then you could always upload a small demo and see how that goes (this also assumes that I've finished coding the ability to upload a config).

Well if I have to load up wolfcam and cut demos and stuff like that it's still the same sort of hassle. I just assumed if you can make a rendering tool a screenshot from a cfg wouldn't even be a thang. Only QL needs this, Q3 is fine as it is. Pretty please?

I think the only way you'd be able to generate a screenshot would be to bring up wolfcam, so whether you render a single screenshot or a movie (which is really just a bunch of jpegs anyway) the load is relatively similar.

/seekclock xx:xx
/screenshotjpeg
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Really interested to learn how you implemented this, great work!

To be brief, the render server grabs the demo, then starts wolfcamql or ioq3 (depending on the game/demo chosen). It renders to an avi, which in turn it then handed off to ffmpeg to do the x264 encoding.

The main trick is getting the renderer to use the graphics hardware, rather than a software renderer. The server's graphics card isn't very good so still not sure which would be faster, software or hardware. Regardless, I forced myself to use the 3d hardware since (depending on the feedback and interest) I'd like to extend this interface out to other games, like team fortress 2, etc. I'm pretty sure rtcw and enemy territory would work, but those would be easy since they are the same engine.

Ah that's awesome, just downloaded my rendered demo. I can't even render decent looking demos on my laptop(integrated gfx) so this project is super useful for me. What kind of servers are you using/what OS?

It's Windows Server 2008 running on a i7 2600, so nothing really special.

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AMAZING site!

nice work :D

Rendered a demo, this is the result:
http://london2.download.maverickservers.com/R...3-0000.mp4

nice one ins. I believe this is the very first one after I posted this thread.

I was speaking to mdv and he was saying the config needs adjusting a little bit. I'm open to any config changes you guys might have.

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how do I cut a demo?

If there's a way to make a 10min demo into a 10 secs demo file then this new tool will be perfect for youtube.

Quake Live - Demo Tools

you can run demo in wolfcam and hit /record. dunno if you can do it in quakelive tho

Imho, you need to add more options, not only for full demos/ I see a very good point to use this site by moviemakers

As a general note and on average:

-every 1.6MB of demo is about an hour of rendering + encoding. i.e. a 4.8MB demo will take about 3 hours to render

-every 2.5MB of demo is about 1GB mp4 output. i.e. a 3MB demo when rendered will be a 1.2GB download for you

omg this is awesome
have my babies

Damn sexy background on the site!

Naaaais! What's the backbone of this thing, you send in a demo and it gets processed by? Can either be fraps or q3mme/wolfcam or the /video cmd... Could be very useful to quickly upload HD VODS to youtube but i don't see a reason to use it for a fragmovie where you need to cut scenes and mess with your cfg. Btw are cpma maps supported?

The Q3 renderer, using IOQuake3, has about 2 or 3 GB of maps uploaded to it. I'm using mdv's InstantQ3 package which has the RA3, 3Wave, etc included.. So yes, it should have the map you need. If it doesn't, let me know.

ppl shouldn't render the whole 10/20 min demo imho :) takes forever, and don't sure if it's necessary

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This has been added now.

great stuff, also global warming ftw. ql rendering will heat up the planet by ~2°

Def. need start and end times, so that you can render good frags/funny moments and stuff like that :O)
You should be able to set that up quite easily with the .py scripts that come with wolfcam.

This has been added now.

nice work! many many efame and chicks1

Is it possible to make this like a standalone program. I'd rather do the rendering etc myself. Bit quicker..

Just use WolfCamQL then. It comes with python scripts that'll render a bunch of demos sequentially.

great work!! already want to try it)

Does it only do 1920x1080? Or does 720 also work?

Right now I've got it set for 1080, but the plan is to allow the submitter to change it to something else if they prefer.

Quick changelog:
-On the render queue page you can cancel any of your queued renders. I also added additional information on that page about how long the renders should take, etc.

I laid the groundwork tonight for allowing you to set the resolutions. Other than 1920x1080 and 1280x720 are there other resolutions it should support?

1280x1024 ?
960x720 ?

Just to follow up, I'm probably going to support the following resolutions/fps:

1920 x 1080 @ 30fps

1280 x 1024 @ 30fps
1280 x 1024 @ 50fps

1280 x 720 @ 30fps
1280 x 720 @ 50fps
1280 x 720 @ 60fps

960 x 720 @ 30fps
960 x 720 @ 50fps
960 x 720 @ 60fps

Any other requests?

I'll probably also have an option for streaming only, in case you aren't interested in downloading the huge mp4.

960x720@60fps is awesome !

I was asked to also add fields that you could just type in your resolution and fps requirements, rather than picking them from a dropdown. Any thoughts on this? y/n?

dropdown is just fine, it remembers also the last settings !

(how it looks on youtube)


Also:
- i would like to see scoreboard after death, not a model of enemy who killed me;
- scoreboard in the end of a game a bit displaced;
- frag message in tdm (i think it is for all teammodes) shows something like "1st place with #", which is not needed tbh;
- i don't like models of weapons at all, but this is optional thing, i would like to turn it off when config support will come.

"I would like to see scoreboard after death, not a model of enemy who killed me;"
-I think you're referring to cg_scoreBoardWhenDead. I'll enable that.

"scoreboard in the end of a game a bit displaced;"
-I'll go ahead and set cg_wideScreen to 0 and see if that helps.

"frag message in tdm (i think it is for all teammodes) shows something like "1st place with #", which is not needed tbh;"
-Right now I don't really have a good way to determine if the game is tdm and I'm not sure if wolfcam has the ability to run a specific config if a certain gametype is running. Until I resolve this I won't be able to fix it. Anyone have any experience with this?
Nevermind the above, I believe this is fixed now.

"i don't like models of weapons at all, but this is optional thing, i would like to turn it off when config support will come. "
-Agreed

Also, would be great to enable impressive/excellent awards (without voice announcement at least).
Waiting for q3 vod atm, will feedback soon.

It looks like you're next in queue, so the above changes should be reflected in that render.

Yes, but next render will be from q3 demo, and all above changes for qlive demos.

Ah, you're right. I missed that. Well if you have a short QL demo you want to try out just submit it and I'll make it go next.

Done.

Got it.

I'm going to render this a few times so you might get a little spam in your inbox.

Ok.
For the first render I've got I see only one change so far - scoreboard appears now.

The "1st place with ..." is removed now as well. I tried changing the scoreboard placement options but those didn't seem to have the desired effect. I'll give it a few more tries.

Turns out the scoreboard being offcenter was a wolfcam bug which was fixed in the upcoming release.

see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3fo3DCp2Fs for more details.

Also it turns out the hud that mdv created for cpma wasn't in the right folder, so any new q3 renders will now look like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HXTKDF-d0

[+]

Stream? I mean, can we have a stream of all these movies like QLRanksTV? Right now that's the only other always-on channel. If there was just one more, I could flip between them!

Yeah, that's the idea. I'd like to have a list of all renders that have completed which can be sorted through and viewed. All in due time and whenever my kids allow me alone time.

To follow up: things are taking shape here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GamingMovieDb

Just awesome. Does youtube have an api to allow batch uploads?

It does, which is what I'm using now to automate things. Having said that, it seems to have issues with files >2GB so I can only upload the smaller ones right now. Trying to come up with a workaround for this at the moment.

Seems like an easy solution would be to detect the demo length and split it into to parts if it is over 10 mins(q3 duels/tdm/etc), or lower rendering quality dynamically based on the length of the demo. Sorry if I've been wasting your time but this project has really perked my interest!

Breaking the demos into pieces is something I'd rather avoid if it all possible since it seems like it would be better as a continuous video, but is still an option I suppose. And yeah, I could always lower the render quality, although I doubt that'll affect a whole lot. Moving from low to high quality in q3/ql only increased the resulting mp4 size by about 10%; I'd probably have more luck capping the x264 bitrate.

Regardless, I wrote some code last night to *potentially* fix the 2GB limitation. I'll know in about 30 minutes if it worked or not.

And you're definitely not wasting my time either, shame on you for thinking that. As a programmer I find comments and questions like yours (and all the ones in this thread) to be really encouraging and result in me coding faster and producing more.

Followup: just verified that the code I wrote last night worked and I'm now able to upload >2GB videos. The first one to be uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KttI-kGe3Eg

Found a bug or two, so it still needs a little more work...but this is a huge improvement regardless.

You are the man, keep posting updates. I'm a programmer too but since school I have only really done web dev, would be really interested if one day you had the time to do a thorough write up of the whole process.

Great work! Really appreciated!
I was expecting for a tool like this for quite a while now, because i'm a fuckin lazy bum and don't wanna render using wolfcam or other tools that require more then 10 minutes of my time :))). But on the other hand i wanna brag to my quake friends with frags that i think are worth sharing :P.

Like others said above, a start - end option will be $$$$$.

Also, cfg wise, could you enable CrosshairHitColor?

According to mdv's config, cg_crosshairHitColor is set to 0xff0000

what is the value for cg_crosshairHitStyle ?

i can share script that makes videos from wolfcam in multithreaded batch mode. u need only need demoname, start time, end time. like:
lol1.dm_67, 01:15, 01:19
lol2.dm_67, 04:21, 04:31
quad.dm_67, 12:47, 13:21

wow they implemented in qlranks demos of every game qlranks streams, which u can download on the site fuckin awesome

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before everyone asks for the hud one by one
http://www.esreality.com/post/2430098/twister-vs-ash/#pid2431252

^^ the legend himself

Also subscribe to his youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/eatatmedve

To anyone following this post:

Changes to http://www.igmdb.org/index.php?page=render
-You can now specify the resolution and fps you want the movie to render in
-You can set a YouTube description for the movie
-You can set additional output options, like only outputting to YouTube, rather than downloading the mp4
-Added a list of the last 10 demos to be rendered as well as links to their streams and downloads
-Added a donate button for those feeling generous

Rendering changes:
-The render will now automatically upload the movie to YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/GamingMovieDb
-Encoding that occurs between midnight and 8 am will complete two times faster since the server load is lower

Would anyone be against the downloads being deleted 1 week after the render finishes, just to conserve space? In less than a week there are already 90GB+ of mp4s available for download.

some games like QW/Q2/WSW/PK would be also appreciated.

Started investigating/working up Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Enemy Territory today. Gokusan posted on my behalf to test the waters (although kind of a lackluster response so far): http://www.crossfire.nu/journals/149898/etrtcw-demo-renderer

For the most part, any engine that can output a demo to an avi (or any video format) can easily fit into the model I've setup and would be relatively easy to integrate and support

Testing right now, cool idea, thank you very much Mav :)

can you get something out of this ?

High Performance Video Encoding Using NVIDIA GPUs

Oh definitely a better GPU is going to produce the renders faster and encode faster (provided ffmpeg was using the gpu). Alas, money is a limiting factor here (as with most things). I think some of the latest generation of encoders are utilizing this.

Hi here are the supported CUDA GPU's >8-)

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/cuda/supported-gpus

Forgot to update things here:
-Added full support for defrag demo rendering, for example:



-Fixed an audio desync problem when certain fps settings were used
-Upgraded the backend to better handle errors that might occur during the rendering process

Some more updates as of last night
-Renders are now 30% +/- faster; encoding is done while the demo is being rendered, rather than waiting for it to finish (I'll probably do the same with uploading to YouTube if all works out, which should get another 10-15% decrease in time)
-Demos with protocol 66 and 67 now are supported better; older OSP demos were having a hard time playing under CPMA which is resolved now. If anyone has any older demos they'd like to render I'd love to get some feedback
-Random small fixes

Update #2 (July 1)
-Uploading demos in rar or zip files is now supported as well. This should make creating vods for tournaments, like 125fps, easier. You just upload the entire rar and you're done: go to http://www.esreality.com/?a=demos grab the direct link, and paste the link into the URL box at the top of http://igmdb.org/?page=render

Update #3 (July 2):
-Was able to speed up YouTube uploads by 2x!

Just to wrap up the increased efficiency changes:
-Last night and this morning I finished up with YouTube optimizations. The renderer no longer waits to the YouTube upload to finish before starting on the next demo render, which shaves off another 10-15% of the total time. This technically doesn't make the render faster, but if there is a queue of demos it at least gives the renderer a head start on the next one rather than sitting idle. For example, two demos might take 70 minutes each to render (20 minutes of that being the upload to YouTube). Instead of finishing both in 140 minutes it'll now finish both in 120 minutes.
-More optimizations for the threading, etc.

If anyone has any problems/questions just let me know.

Can you tell @ what settings are the audio encoder encodes ?
The sound is kind of crisp when pick up chards or shield

In that context is "crisp" a good thing or a bad thing?

I'm not using anything special on the encoder side, although I did have to force 44Khz on q3/wolfcam in order to fix some audio desync issues.

crisp means BAD ... there is some kind of low compression going on

on my headphone AKG K272HD i can hear it quite well from the stereo amp

Do you hear the same thing when downloading the mp4?

I'am always downloading, my own redered vid's or from someone else
I had not tested the newest uploaded ones, but i wanted to post this *issue* a long time ago

Yeah, the audio changes I made were done a week or two ago, so try downloading one of the latest ones. If the quality isn't right then I'll look into it further. Thanks for letting me know about this.

Hi thank you, i did noticed the changes from the newer downloads, BUT ...

There seems to be an issue still with the sound, you can hear it clearly when a health bubble gets picked up, the crisp sound is gone but the *reverb* on pickups is not normal i think.


I play online with a AKG K618DJ Headphone on Linux and there is not the sound, i can try to connect the AKG K272HD and look it up.

I made a small change to the QL rendering config so try rendering a movie and see how that looks now.

Also: do you only notice this issue on QL renders or Q3 ones as well?

cannot play Q3 right now, but the client QL sound is OK ... btw do you hear that noise too what i'am talking about ?

i downloaded the YT quake3 ones on the top, iam back monday ...

I don't hear the sounds you're referring to unfortunately, so I'm taking your word for it. Just let me know when you have some feedback.

Thats OK, but i'am confused ...

i looked up a video from IHV Leak Quake III 3 Arena 1999
Maps from the Lost Arena mod for Quake 3 Arena

compered to other vids from Q3A and the vid i downloaded it is completly differend, but the sound is not OK too or just too bad recorded, the bubbles make a tiny reverb
Quake 3: 'Cooller_vs_socrates_8_T4.dm_67
Socrates Triple Rail OT Win over Cooller! p1
Socrates Triple Rail OT Win over Cooller! p2

I played finally on cure and picked up these bubbles with the big headphone, and it was crystal clear ...

I'am playing on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, onboard sound, Asus EeeBox, ALSA supported

So i don't know what the issue is, maybe driver,hardware or some mixed channel settings

There seems to be a diff between Quake3 rendered demos and QL demos in sound, the newer Q3 cpma demos are much clearer than the rendered demo i downloaded from the maverick servers.

the QL plasma & quad plasma, mashinegun sounds odd, kills half the fun of the rendered demo for me ...

I'm not sure if you are referring to the sounds being weird from the rendered demos through YouTube or direct download. Can you let me know?

direkt downloading, the Quake3 CPMA ones are downloaded from YT, have a better sound

it's the source that counts, now i have a even bigger ? over my head, why is the sound diff from QL ?

My video i downloaded from Maverick servers have a odd quadplasma sound ...
Sure the quality from Maverick servers are higher, soundwise i could not test it, have no VLC or something on the linux machine ...

Quake Live: 'FFA-Rothaarig3-purgatory-2013_08_22-18_34_30.dm_73'

True, with this headphones i can hear every fart ... sorry for that >8-)

Hm, it's odd that the YouTube encoded version would sound different, although my first thought was that they probably use a lower quality (lower bitrate) audio codec. I haven't tried downloading any movie from YouTube, but you should be able to check the audio bitrate on it pretty easily.

That is NOT what i said, i said the input counts, the QuakeIIIArena CMP vod's are OK, QL worse soundwise, doesen't matter if downloaded from YT or as 60fps orginal file download from Maverick servers.

So somewhere @ the input device/drivers/software used is the search of the error.

I was watching the cooler vs rapha vod's latly and the vod abouve from me, u did make some changes in the timeline soundwise, would you consider rendering a avidemo in the console on the machine and upload it to YT ?

Quake Live: 'mouzcoolleR(POV)-vs-SK-rapha-verticalvengeance.dm_73'

I cannot describe the sound of the MG ... sounds odd & outwashed

Ah, so you think ffmpeg might be encoding it oddly?

I don't know what settings may used, 44.1KHz schould be enough for audio encoding, YT has the same quality, i cannot check the downloaded videos as i told you before.

i don't know much about avidemo on QL, when i have my machine i can test it out ...
there are some settings to run it.

as i said before, the bubble pickup should have a tiny reverb, the demos you render have much more reverb and the MG has a metallic sound ...

btw, i cannot test the sound ether on this laptop i used, it has a usb sound device headphone, and the linux is prepared for this sound device, cannot change it >8-/

did you done something ?

the vod's i downloaded has NO clear audio ...

Nothing has changed on this side.

OK, i leave you in peace, if you think Faceit has a good sound production, then think again ...

As i noticed, the voice is clear and good, but the ingame sound is blurry and dumb, too much base as it goes to an EQ somehow.

But is it not effected by any sounds added ...

Keep up the good work >8-)

Well regardless I'll see if I can tweak things a little more. You seem pretty sure the issue is on the encoder side so I'll tweak it a bit.

OK, i don't have an aswer to that, @ one point the sound gets messed up, could be a driver/hardware issue too ... or even a ingame setup with some direct sound 3d setting

-good luck-

Not to belabor this point, but I finally got around to this tonight and adjusted the encoder to encode at 320kbps. The audio quality should be better, especially considering it was working at 128kbps beforehand. If you submit any renders please let me know what you think.

120Hz.net*How to make 60FPS YouTube videos!

working on mastering troubled water 3, will use it. anyone got a nice shiny cfg for me? nothing special just clean and neat.

vo0's cfg is good and k1llsen's
http://www.k1llsen.de/WPcontent/wp-content/up...-qlive.rar
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wl6ul1mhpwyq0rx/voogamer.cfg

you did not say wich picmip ^ ^

GamingMovieDb QuakeCon 2013

Anyone can submit a demo from qcon:

http://trance.gg/Quake-demos/Quakecon%202013/Temp_Unsorted/

http://www.esreality.com/post/2460964/sk-rapha-vs-102-evil/

Awsome site :D

Nice, now all you need is to work at idsoftware!

For added speed, tonight I finished the multithreading in the rendering process. Now between the hours of midnight and 8am multiple demos are rendered simultaneously (2 for now, will try more later). This essentially eats up about 80% of the machine, but that should be acceptable given low loads during those times. Speed == good

awesome work :)
a bit off topic, but is it possible to get that cpma hud for ql? I love the oldschool feel of the q3 font!

There is a way to play YT videos & full playlists directly out of VLC with VLC-addons.org

there is an addon called youtube video and playlist importer ... was in this video

but there is Youtube playlist & Time

Another update:
-The renderer now fully supports Return to Castle Wolfenstein demos. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory should be supported soon. Depending on how Jedi Knight looks I'll try to support that as well



-I've been testing out the OpenGL 2 renderer that comes with IOQuake3. It makes the render time about 22% longer, but it makes the lighting and graphics look pretty nice.

OpenGL 1:


OpenGL 2:


Can you guys let me know what you think? Is it worth the extra rendering time?

Most people would have been happy with basic HD IMO and a faster service, I assume the speed is related to server usage, or you have access to some freaky power beyond what I can imagine?

If 10 people did a demo at once, would the speed still be the same as just one person doing it? I have no idea of your resources.

IMO most people who want to make a really HQ video will probably do it offline anyway and want full control via a video editor. These are also the people who actually make good things, giving everyone the ability to easily produce HQ stuff is a drain and even if you can afford it, I don't think youtube needs any more reasons to get more stuttery with 1000's of mediocre videos using a lot of resources.
If it free, people will often use as much as they can especially if they are none the wiser.

This is great for quickies, but you should take advantage of people cutting you a lot of slack in return for that service. Even if you locked it at 480p, it would still rock.

Users will tolerate acceptable image quality for ease of use, but with the attention span of people today I reckon conversion speed is the most important factor, not obsessing about image quality.

If this is for testing for potential monetize options or personal use then go for it as this could be bolted and sold onto many games, I never got why devs never did something like this as its free promotion for their games.

Would be good to see someone do a test on using this service, vs traditonal methods and time it to see what the difference is.

If 10 people submitted demos for rendering then the render server would only process the first one or two (depending on the time of day). All the renders after that would queue up. Assuming all 10 demos were the same then they would all take the same amount of time to render, you'd just have to wait through the queue first.

2 looks much better, surely worth it

Mozilla Firefox AddOn's for YouTube to play in full HD by default, without add the &hd=1

YouTube HD
YouTube ALL HTML5

Another update:
-Added support for rendering Enemy Territory demos. Will most likely add support for Jedi Academy next (unless there are other requests.


-Added support for rendering only part of a demo. When you submit a demo for rendering you are given the option to specify a start and end times for the output movie. You can specify a start, end, or both, or just leave them blank to render the entire demo.

Also fixed a major audio desync issue tonight. woot.

Edit: Added Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy support too!

I see that one of your future enhancements would be to be able to download the demos themselves. That would be truly awesome.

To me personally, the videos are near-worthless, it is the demos that have all the value.
Very cool site though.

If you are only looking for the demos you might check out http://www.esreality.com/post/2476608/hal-9000-shares-demos/

As far as extending a demo-download interface, I proposed this: http://www.esreality.com/post/2483460/demo-database/

My goal is to have a list of demos that you can click on, see the information about it (who played, the winner/loser, scores, etc) and then click another link to either watch the rendered video from it or to queue it up for rendering (and then watch it). The more people use the site -> the more demos get rendered -> the more the site becomes useful.

Okay. I think you're crazy though. =)

so, you will process and host a gigabyte-sized video of a demo, but not the 1 Mb demo file itself. That's crazy, my friend.

Your demo-database hosting enhancements was referring to the demo-hosting location and not to the renderer-video-hosting page.
Being able to download the demos themselves would be the best enhancement you could provide, IMVHO.

unrelatedly:
If you are the 'Maverick' that plays counterstrike, you would know that CSS and CSGO have ever-changing client-server versioning so demos are only re-playable for a very short time. That is, the only viable option is to render the demos into video if you wish to ever view it again. So those games, although encumbered by Steam, would be good choices for supported games.

Lastly: thanks for replying to a anonymous user. The things you are doing for the community is exemplary! You are a shining Paladin in a sea of Stroggosian warriors! Knight him, I say, knight the mighty Sir Maverick!

Hm, I think I may have miscommunicated. I think we're thinking along the same lines:

I am *not* hosting any rendered videos other than ones that people specifically request to be downloadable (and even those get removed after a while). The demo file is kept on the server, but it isn't available for download off of igmdb.org mainly because I didn't think about it. I originally thought that most people uploading a demo for rendering wouldn't want others to be able to download their demo. Maybe that's wrong?

http://demos.igmdb.org is the demo dumping ground for the time being, however at some point that site will come together with the demo rendering page since they are already closely related. When that happens you'll be able to upload a demo for cataloging, download any demo, view information about a demo, as well as view the render of a demo if it exists and/or submit a demo for rendering. When this happens it'll make sense that any demo previously for rendering will be part of the searchable catalog. Hopefully that clarifies the 'vision'.

I am, unfortunately, not the Maverick you are referring to, but I was not aware of the versioning issue you mentioned which makes demos unusable. That's good to know. I'll mental note this as I start trying to render those demos.

Hah, thanks for the vote of confidence.

I hate to keep wasting your time, but since you posted, I would like to clarify.

I understood that the rendered videos are hosted onto youtube. That is why I don't see any harm in having the demo retrievable, since it is publicly posted anyway.
I do see that some people only want part of the demo rendered... and perhaps for just this reason your concern is valid.
Perhaps this could be a toggle-able option for when the upload?

I wrote a demo parser and some demoparser-output-tool script parsers for Quake(dem/qwd/qwz/mvd), Q2(dm2/mvd2), Q3(dm3,dm_48,dm_66-68), and QL(dm_73).
Useful to me since I have about 200,000 demos; it turns
Padawan-vs-#sbs-cpm3a-2013_05_14-13_20_29.dm_68
into
cpm3a_padawan23_sbs12_cpma_mvd_68_051413_.dm_68
A better example would be: demo0018.dm_66 into pro-tourney4_blue27_lakerman13_osp_66_082703_.dm_66.

You said in the other thread you have this already completed for Q3(dm_66-68) and QL.
I couldn't solve the in-eyes versus pov versus mvd issues for Quake3(that is, I'm unable to clearly determine if the demo is an MVD or not in my demo parser.).
Do you have this working?
When someone submits an cpma MVD dm_68 demo, how do you set the perspective to a single player to render the video?

As for CSS and CSGO, Valve shot themselves in the foot on those and ESR is not very Halflife-centric. I do enjoy watching those games, but I'm not asking you to add them.... although I do think they are good choices because the demos become obsolete(unless you are running a cracked non-steam version of the correct protocol engine environment with the correct client-side files).

I would like to return the favor by uploading a set of whatever demos you are personally interested in, but, regretfully, as I thought about it, I'm not sure I have a way of doing that or even contacting you personally. =/

oh, and you're still awesome.

Yeah, I guess moving forward I should have some kind of checkbox asking the submitter if they want to keep their demo private and not downloadable. Then again, I'm unsure why someone would request this, considering the render is posted publicly to YouTube.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've tested the parser on an mvd demo; I'll have to check that out. Right now when an mvd demo is rendered I just leave it up to Q3 to determine who gets the main pov and who gets the little windowed view. I'm not sure I'd be able to control it by setting a cvar though.

For your demo parser what language did you use?

If you're interested in uploading some demos that would be awesome. I'm at campagnolo90@hotmail.com if you'd l;ike to email me and/or give me a link to the demos. I can provide FTP access if you need it as well.

Another quick update:
-The demo renderer now supports Urban Terror. Any requests on the next game supported?


-I've setup API-based access to allow people to submit demos programmatically, rather than having to go through the site manually each time. More information can be found at http://www.igmdb.org/?page=about

When is id going to hire you?

can you support ETQW demos ?

Hm, I haven't really played around with etqw much. Does it support any kind of direct avi output?

Hasn't this game been dead for a long time and is it really worth it to add support for it?

YT BratensaftHeinz

id should have avidemo, based on idtech4 ...

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problem is, the files are much bigger i think, i have some demo's on my usb hdd, never seen it ...
the demos i have are ending .ndm and are about 12.3mb big

Hm, well I'll have to check into it. It was my understanding that unless a capture device was being used you couldn't get the video + audio for this game.

well, it is a long time ago me playing ETQW, and all the configs changes since the 1.5 update, wich i never been able to play ...
http://www.splashdamage.com/downloads

i can look for configs and usefull things, just because iam still interested in the game.

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Tweak Guide
http://etqw.geezergaming.com/newbies/tweaking.php

You, sir are in the pantheon of Quake!

Question:

Whats with the YT 1080p not able to download the VOD ?
I was trying diff solutions none of them helped me on this crappy linux ubuntu with firefox plugins ...

Maybe YouTube changed their stuff to prevent you from downloading it?

So I'm in process of adding some more graphical options like bloom. You'll be able to turn this on and off when submitting a render. Any thoughts as to which one you guys prefer:

This is working for me right here

already used it .. and it worked great:

http://www.esreality.com/post/2550842/tourney...-attacker/

One note tho, the hud could be laid out better for CTF purposes

Can you provide the OpenArena.dm_71 protocol ?
OpenArena| -CITY-MAPS-OPENMAFIA-|-CITY-TEST-EU-

Do you have an OA demo I can run some tests on? It shouldn't be hard to add support for it.

Yes i have some Demo's :)

I can send you some map's-demo's to test on, the config i have has fastsky and bright models ...

I email you !

Sorry for the bump, but this was added in last night. OA has a lot of custom maps which will probably need uploading, but I can confirm that the renderer will support it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCCIOBCI2E

Kaput?

Is it not working for you? Everything seems online.

I've tried to upload a demo last few days but I get an error message after 1,5 minute.

I did not see any uploads in queue either so I concluded the problem wasn't on my part.

I'm getting this screen:

Hm, can you send the file to me at campagnolo90@hotmail.com so I can check it out? or hit me up at #maverickservers on quakenet irc so we can see what's up.

Hey Mav,

I tried to sign up but it does not seem to work. I am not getting the confirmation E-mail to set up an account.

I tried it twice.

Can you help me with that?

Sure thing. You should be able to log in now..

works like a charm. thanks!

you better do a routing check ...

http://www.dnstools.ch/visual-traceroute.html

for me it says "***ERROR*** invalid host" 12:40 CET

I was login but commited no demo ...

My problem was the file was too big (overtime ctf game). Mav uploaded it, I think zipped. thx

Your goal is to breed all the different dragons dcfegeggkeee

Because here is a list of multiplayer games is that the leave was asked dcfegeggkeee

Just....leave

I found an feature of Google's rating of ur ISP when u look at an video.

It was on the Jupiter Broadcasting show TechSnap 156

YouTube / Google Video and Net Neutrality

https://www.google.com/get/videoqualityreport...DEOURLHERE

example:

https://www.google.com/get/videoqualityreport/?v=p2AueM5O-8M

It's pretty awesome but is there a way to delete the video from Youtube? Also is there an option to not have it go to Youtube but just make it available for d/l for a period of time? I did a test and it automatically sent it to youtube and its a shitty demo of me out of shape mentally and aimwise :).

I would just like to take some demos, convert them and then d/l and watch them on my phone when I'm waiting around or something to try and get better.

In exchange for that service I could make donations and/or hunt down some old school nice demos of elite players and upload them to youtube.

Thanks!

I haven't coded up any ability for a user that submitted a demo to delete the video from youtube. Not really sure I'd want to though.

I have, however, coded up the ability for a person to submit a demo and only have it uploaded to their own youtube channel. This functionality isn't exposed publicly yet, but it would make sense that if you were a donator then you could have the video be located wherever you want (download only, your youtube channel only, or both). As of right now as a donator you can already download the video directly.

If you have demos I've already setup a rather large ftp area at http://demos.igmdb.org. If you would like to add to it contact me and I can provide you a login.

Quick update:
-As mentioned in the grand opening thread, I believe I've made the (final) speed improvement for QL renders which should improve rendering times by about 40%. In a nutshell, rather than having the engine output an avi which is then encoded, the engine will now output uncompressed tga images (which are encoded on the fly) and a wav file (which is muxed later on).
-Q3MME has replaced IOQuake3 as the rendering engine for Q3 demos (CPMA, DeFRaG, etc), which will also allow blurring to be enabled later on as a rendering option. More on this later.
-Using a similar method that sped up QL renders, Q3 renders will now be about 40% faster as well.
-Estimated times to complete a render have also been adjusted accordingly.
-Demo uploads are now done asynchronously, which allows for larger demos to be uploaded.

Edit:
-You can now download demos from the rendering page

Youtube supports from now on 48FPS & 60FPS :)

1280x720p@60FPS

M$ IE works and Chrome, for Firefox u will have to edit the about:config value

media.mediasource.enabled from false >>> TRUE

HTML5-Videoplayer von YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/html5

Already supported by default! Woot. 1080p60 was added in about a month ago for donators.

just found out about this! much <3 :D

Very nice site!

Very nice site!

Very nice site!

Very nice site!

Some ppl name the files wrong, or the description is quite confusing.

Can you do a map choice drop down to do the naming and search pattern ?

:)

BloodrunIntel

CampgroundsIntel

Here is an bad examle, to find Blood Run Intel

Quake Live: Sukiyakaaa good player or cheater :D

Demofile Name:
isnotready(POV)-vs-sukiyakaaa-bloodrunin­tel-2015_07_18-20_08_22.dm_90

So the most correct search pattern is the demo file name ?

Hm, well I do parse each demo prior to rendering it, so I could add a few keywords to the description. Would that do the trick? I'm not sure how youtube handles searches on the movies and if they take into account the description much.

The demo name gives it away, if someone want to do a text example, maybe deleting the posability to change the name would do the trick :)

SteamWorkshop:Maido: Mid-air like mode & map.

MidAir Maido
Quake Live: Maido Air Rocket demo - squadMeta

Never seen this map before ...

The Campgrounds II

Quake Live: proverek (Demo filename: CA-jimmyvulgr-proverek-2015_12_29-17_29_­41.dm_91)

..::LvL
sst13
http://lvlworld.com/author/sst13

Many of the newer demos being submitted are played on the steam workshop maps. Not sure how good they are though...

Ahh ... so it comes from there, well it is a good map :)

The Workshop is terrible ... the search pattern are aweful !

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?ap...mp;days=90

AHH found it :)

Projectile Vomiting: /map proverek

callvote map proverek


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Can you say what are your sound settings (Hardware) are ?

Here are some examples and it diff much :)

http://esreality.com/post/2791761/re-headset-...pid2791761

The render server has Realtek HD Audio hardware in it, although not sure how 'high quality' that is. I updated the drivers for it yesterday so the most recent renders may sound slightly different due to that. Also, a few months ago I changed the encoder settings to use AAC, rather than MP3, which theoretically should support higher bitrates and less loss. I'm skeptical of people being able to hear a diffference between the two encodings though.

May not able to, but if you hear the other recommandations there is an echo on the VOD from decebal :)

your rocketdemo of maido sounds OK, so it is straight hardware and no software envolved ...

what do you think, why sound the reebhimself demo's so nice ?

QL vs Quake3Arena ?

What's the link to the reebhimself video?

There are 4 Videos actually :)

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAGPTour/videos

cooler vs reebhimself (socrates)

socrates (pov)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqBRSt0fzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq1tFcn1m-k
cooler (pov)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IklBBf6xKks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=379GsKlMfrM

Not sure, maybe due to differing engines?

yes that could be, sounds much diff.

Your encoding is good, the sound is as crisp as it can be :)

It would be nice to have a local version of this. So we dont have to download whole videos and wait for a server to process things.

It would also be nice to be able to sift through large sets of demos for frags meeting certain criteria such as:

1. x of frags in < y seconds
2. damage > x within y time
3. frags of certain people

There already is a local version of this: just run WolfCamQL and you can replay/record the demo however you wish.

You can already parse demos easily using UberDemoTools by MyT: http://esreality.com/post/2691563/uberdemotools/. Ideally you could find the exact portion of the demo you wanted to render using UDT, and then render only that part.

When will rendering be back up?

Rendering is online now. Assuming you're commenting about the upcoming downtime...the rendering machine is scheduled to be replaced with a much beefier machine however I'm currently waiting on the datacenter to get back to me about when it'll occur. I'll reply to this post when I know more as well as update the igmdb page.

Regardless of the downtime...you can still upload demos and have them added to the queue since that functionality is outside the rendering machine being up or down They'll all be processed.

Does anyone have a steam key for the original half life they could gift me? I wanted to see if I could add support for it into the renderer. Thanks.

The render server's hardware has been upgraded so things are much faster now. A CPMA demo which typically took about 20 minutes to render now finishes in 6 minutes with the output being a 10 minute long video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGqm3Y8xTKM). It also has more memory so running multiple renders at the same time will be easier.

Let me know if anyone has any issues.

Also, I'm still looking for a Half Life steam key so I can add HL support to the renderer. If you have one and want to give it away please let me know. Thanks.