is it still using the arma 2 engine?

Arma 2.5 engine or smth. But Arma 3 engine is much better.

and mods for Arma 3 seems to be more and more interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpsGILtkec Breaking Point

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?162...ouncement! 2017

It's a modded version of the Take on Helicopters engine, which is a modded version of thesame engine arma 2 uses (I forget what it's called).

So, yes and no.

From what I've heard It doesn't run like a bag of spanners like arma 2 does.

Maybe just a bag of hammers

bolded = ROTFL

Do you think it will take more time than that?

Rocket annouced before a beta in 2012, so its just funny.
This game should be finished already, not pre-alpha...

He announced an alpha in december, which was basically going to be a repackaged mod. They since decided to take a more ambitious approach and fix the arma 2 to be more suitable for an MMO style game. They are different projects, its really stupid to mad about that.

DayZ SA should be ready, now, not in 2015.

open your eyes, its like scam. They did almost nothing.

Oh, well shit, if you say so!

fanboi

Maybe make an actual argument or something instead of raging all over the thread like a child?

did you make an argument? because I cant see any.

Long time in development. Still looks like pre-alpha or like a mod. Should be done some time ago, really, they got enough of time to finish the whole game. Cheats, and for Rocket its fine, because this is how the things works. Arma 2 instead of arma 3 engine. Looks like a scam for cash. Even Origins mod is doing more than people from SA. Still desync, lag. melee projectile... Promises?...

Rust development is so awesome compared to Dayz SA.

This is just ridiculous.

I'm asking you to justify your stupid opinions such as it "should be ready now" and that it will "never reach 1.0", so you saying I never made an argument is total nonsense.

One year is not a long time for development.
It's too early to say how big an affect cheats will have on the game.
Arma 2 engine sucks for sure, Arma 3 engine sucks slightly less.
How does it look like a scam? They stated up front its an alpha and a buggy mess.
I don't know what Origins mod "doing more" even means. They have a year head start in content because they built everything off the mod.
Desync, lag and melee projectile are terrible, I agree. Its one of the biggest disappointments and I don't think they are capable of fixing it.

Origins mod priority is to add new content (new content=new/more bugs) instead of fixing old important bugs.

I've never even played DayZ, but you are fucking retarded.

...and thats is reallly.... retarded.

I had little expectations, and I know it's not like 2000 guys were developing DayZ with millions of cash to support the development, but meh the game is still looking bad for me. First thing that appeals me in a game is movement and animation, and DayZ fails here.

You'd have more fun with Typing of dead overkill, it's even on sale right now! xD

DayZ SA looks like it will never reach 1.0. version... imo

wow so we a re basically asked to pay full price for alpha bs. they are just incompetent modmakers that try to full people like they have full grip on things. they never produced a single piece of content, just some garbage script kiddie coding. reminds me of dota in early years, too much bs surround what it actually is, just a half-assed mod hyped up by the dumb masses that cant handle a complex game.

ur wisdom is priceless, arkov

its not full price and yes it is an alpha, which they made as clear as possible.

cant be fucked to fall for this again, i bought arma2 just to play the mod and it was one of the most boring experiences ive ever put myself through, zombie games are already boring to me but since this is "realistic" it was like 20x more painful to play

I fucking hate zombies!
Goes for DayZ.















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Turns out the whole client-server architecture premise was just bogus - the only thing they've changed is the range of data the client receives as demonstrated by this picture
http://cdn.dayzblog.net/wp-content/uploads/20...bublbe.jpg
but scripts are still working, there is no anti-cheat active as of yet ( not battleeye nor VAC ) and writing and reading from process memory is also working still ( as in undetectable external ESPs ) which means even if they enable VAC and battleeye - hackers will still run rampart.
This is due to all these vulnerabilities still being core-elements of the engine which i don't see being fixed at all - because that's how the ARMA engine works - they would have to write a whole new engine - you see that happening any time soon ?
I already saw demonstrations of people teleporting around, having unlimited ammo, ESPs, god-mode, thermal/-nightvision and more.
I feel seriously let down because this was one of the most important factors to DAYZ:SA.
Without the client-server structure to safely secure against most sorts of hacking there is little incentive to play DayZ:SA over other DayZ-mods or Breaking Point.
I'd rather have a DayZ without hackers than a DayZ with a modular-equipment system.
More proof:
http://oi43.tinypic.com/33u4cqp.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6774/kltv.png
http://gyazo.com/3c93b93c73c690f1385aec4be8af7d52.png
http://gyazo.com/1da1728da93e2e7873a8bdfbdbc3959e.png

Rocked answered to this:
Hacks appear, patches get released. That's how this thing works.

gg, shit game is shit.
http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1t5vp7/...happening/

roooooofle, can someone comment on performance compared to mod dayz plz? i got 20fps(which is playable mostly) BUT zombies stuttered my system to a halt, and gave me receiving.. hang bug :/

I think performance is better than the mod so i guess you'd get at least 20fps. Who knows about zombies since there are hardly any in it right now but they SAID zombies will be more efficient

okay, i bigger towns and interiors might be a problem though, will have to see what i can dig up on performance on it.

Yeah some of the new areas really chug. Arma2 is such an ugly, shitty engine.

I heard that there are 20 fps in the cities.

not buying this crap.

well that would be great since i get 5-10 in mod.

Not "that much better" Its still the same crap engine so it will always be low fps in cherno/elektro

the ship has sailed on DayZ

The clothing system is cool. I can force survivors to give me their shoes. I just need to learn to speak with a polish accent

go play sims :P

you didnt get the roleplay aspect.

This game is playable in current state.
But you need to remember that DayZ is about random encounters with people. Someone will rek you, someone will punch people with Mortal Kombat theme going in the background etc.
That's why people play it - for the lulz.

and this year will not leave alpha stage, which is just shame...

It can be alpha forever. Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter for a mod, not for standalone game with a lot of money.

Really, people need to start to demand from developers a bit more or everybody will still be raping our ass by new CoD/BF games with poor performance...

What a random rant Kappa

It's a game. People like it.

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ya, we need to demand more from bohemia interactice - otherwise some other developers will release a new COD game with poor performance. spot on.

Really? You can't see it that every new game has poor performance, no content, early access, kickstarter and shit and quality of these products sux dix? You are blind then. I don't remember which new game was finished at release date recently.

People throwed money and received shit.

People need to demand more from every game, not only DayZ.

what do you want from them? they stated up front what model they are using. they made it as clear as possible that the game is an alpha. what am i supposed to demand from them?

There is no big improvement between mod and standalone. As I said this game with this hype should be already finished. But Rocket is like "fuck development, Mount Everest, here I come"... and this is in very long time development.

People paid a lot of money for it and they received an information that probably this game will not be even a beta in 2014. Are you kidding me? And this game even doesn't use Arma 3 engine.

Also "there are cheaters, deal with it" is just lol

Take a look on Rust game, a game developed from 0, not copy & paste from mod. And there is now more things to do than dayz sa. ofc it got differnt feeling.

I expect 'more' from every game release. I'm tired of "new standard" right now which is "early access shit" paid by customers and "they should be happy that I'm making this game even if its crap".

Rocket etc. seems to me a bunch of loosers, 'people will buy it because its dayz'

apparently they changed the whole architecture to a client/server system to make it more secure. that sounds like a big improvement to me. they repeatedly said that they are working on low level stuff first to make a proper foundation to add more things to later on (during the alpha and beta phase). why should it be already finished? are you a game developer? programmer? how do you know how long this should have taken?

1 year is not a "long time in development".

people paid for it having been told what they are paying for - an alpha. again: it was made clear to people what they were buying and the state the game was in before they bought it.

so basically you want them to produce a fully devloped game in the space of a year. also they are not allowed to release an early access alpha (even though they are completely up front and honest about the state of it) because... Call of Duty is bad? Battelfield 3 was fucked up?

Also "there are cheaters, deal with it" is just lol

ignoring your self-serving "quote", what they said sounds reasonable - you cant fully eliminate cheating. i dont see any issue here unless you believe in a conspiracy theory where they straight up lied about the whole network archtecture thing.

DayZ is not secure... you know how cheats are working in dayz mod?
maybe its more secure because Valve updated VAC more lolz

There is no imorovement... dayz origin mod has more improvement...

I got friend who is fan of dayz, programmer, own server, modified dayz mod by himself, know dayz code quite well. As a fan, still he was dissapointed and clearly said that client/server architecture change is pure bullshit, and he knew it before alpha release.

You just keep repeating things without acknowledging anything I say. It is more secure than the mod was. Yes there will be cheats for it as with any online game. The point is to minimize by locking down what the client can do.

"dayz origin mod has more improvement..."

You are repeating yourself yet again. I'll just copy what I wrote last time you said this: They have a year head start in content because they built everything off the mod. Can you acknowledge the work the HAVE done? The client/server architecture, the inventory system, the expanded map, the improved graphics? Are they lieing about all that? IF they did all that, how long SHOULD it take?

"I got friend who is fan of dayz, programmer, own server, modified dayz mod by himself, know dayz code quite well."

Yeah and my dad works at Nintendo.

Belive or not, don't care.
inventory... improved by arma 3 and copy&paste than adjust.
fanboi.

I played, saw a game on streams, few friends tell me how it works. eonough to don't buy it.

will rather play Rust, which development is high level compared to dayz.

As usual you cant actually respond to anything I wrote. If you dont like it, just say so. But I guess it makes you feel smart to rage against the machine.

Yea, your arguments are so hard!...

I answered before in this thread and I doesn't want to continue because discussion bbetween us is pointless imo.

imo such stage is ok for mod, not standalone game. And standalone probably will never reach proper 1.0 version.

You will say "Yes", I will say "No"... neverending.

dayz without bugs wont be dayz anymore.

There were thousands f funny moments because of those bugs.... like running next to a tree over their roots and bam broken leg, bleeding and sometimes dead.

I got the DAYZ Standalone a few weeks ago, around Christmas. I was REAL pumped about it because it looked / sounded like a fun game. The negative accel in the mouse means I can HARDLY move my mouse, very slowly, otherwise it just stops moving all together. Also, it's super glitchy. While that's all understandable since it's ALPHA, the fact that servers randomly disconnect over 50% of the time is more of a real issue. It means you'll be doing something then BOOM you're disconnected, half the time.

That's my experience, could be different for others. It could be fun, if they add a TON of stuff to it. Just a bit bland for the time being.

That's called "DayZ experience"
It's not for pussies
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Less abuse from cheaters makes it 10x better already. There are standard aimbots/wallhacks sure but I am not seeing the same ability of cheaters to nuke whole servers or teleport around.

Rust > DayZ @ steam stats

No one > cares @ ESR