Did Evil's keyboard break or did he break it because he was angry?

All to blame on the mouse.

MB HE SHOULD SWITCH TO ZOWIE AHHA

yeah zowie or wmo.

or g400s , or g100s

or DA 2K13

or kana v2

or... abyssus

best mice ever !

g400s and g100s have inherent clicking delays, use human benchmark to compare

with the salmosa pro i can get 140ms at my best shape (sperged out), with the g400s? i don't want to talk about it lol. If you press extremely hard, then it gets mitigated a lot, but you have to be extremely strong.

http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

have you seen this http://www.esreality.com/post/2434769/re-raze...pid2434769

Salmosa has comparable button delay to these logitechs or even a little bit worse.

I bet whoever made that just adadadads and knows shit all about mice, aiming and truskill

the salmosa pro is what i'm talking about, not the salmosa

do you konw if the g100s any good? I have a mouse that sucks but is in a similar shape and i kinda like the shape.

I am wondering because i will get a Zowie fk if the g100s isn't good enough.

winz is playing with a g100s at 1000dpi. Works flawlessly.

g100s is probably as good as the fk, but then it only comes down to preference

Thanks man.

lol, you make excuses for evil when he doesn't even use a kinzu anymore...

omg really ?

i saw on stream that it was still the kinzu

huh weird, i asked evil when he was preparing for dh and he said he switched to zowie fk.

ok :o

dunno on stream it seemed that it was still the kinzu, but maybe i'm blind lol, and it was actually the zowie FK.

would still make sense tho, cause if you switch from kinzu to fk, you need quite some time to adapt, cause fk doesn't have hardware accel.

he still does

who cares. it's a mouse. evil did not lose because of mouse. he lost because he did more stupid things than rapha.

rapha played better quake.

the kinzu actually makes you over-confident

because of the random hardware accel it makes you think that you can out-shaft anyone, but doesn't work for the rockets

i mean, the kinzu defines your playstyle : shaft/hitscan heavy. but +back rockets feel awful

and sometimes you lose a shaft battle cause the shitty kinzu's sensor made you fail at some point.

with for example WMO + accel, he could have better defensive rockets, and wouldn't be such an mindless +forward LG

are you seriously implying +back rockets have an aim component to them? that's all prediction

only k1llsen aims rockets directly from what i've seen




also the kinzu v2 is good, f0rest uses it

i thought f0rest used the kinzu v1 ?

yeah kinzu v2 is decent, but still the zowie mice are miles better

he uses the v2 rubber

f0rest currently uses the ikari optical actually and has for quite awhile now

and btw you really are an idiot dude and care wayyyy to much about the mouse... evil lost because of his decisions not because of his fucking mouse... mice these days perform so fucking similar its pulling at straws to try and say ones better then the other

small amounts of hardware accel can become muscle memory either way.. ive seen some of the best aimers in the world in cs use laser mice with hardware accel and also some of the best aimers in the world use optical mice...

stop caring so much about the damn hardware it makes you seem like an obsessive nerd who needs to put more time into playing and practicing then thinking you missed a shot cause ur damn mouse which works just fine

MESSAGE TO HEARTLESS:

please stop

av3k will lose against cypher or raffer cause he's using a salmosa.

abyssus > salmosa

both evil and av3k use crap mouse... and they are lightyears ahead of guys like you, using perfect equpment :D


hardwere stuff is max 1pc of skill.

i know that they are far better than me

but just imagine av3k or evil with a proper mouse

they would just rape everyone :D

it doesnt work like this

you really think they have not tried many, many mice, including the ones you praise?

yeah i think so, that they didn't try the mice i praise.

they are just too lazy to change and unexperimented when it comes to mice.

they are also afraid of change

hey, anything is possible!

...but cypher didnt use abyssus
http://i.imgur.com/gCVETJG.jpg

posting in He4rTL3sS thread

Razer and SteelSeries - overrated and overpriced piece of crap...

razer's best mice : abyssus and DA
the rest = crap

steelseries best mouse : kana v2
rest = decent (kana v1) or crap (anything else)

Thinking that mouse has anything to do with this is the reason why you are stuck with CA :P

how about you team up with zhu as the Guys Noone Cares About?

I actually care about Zhu.

You mean care as in not give a fuck?

No.

evil so lucky to receive tips from someone like you. I'm sure he appreciates it massively

in fact hardware accel in kinzu(or any other hardware linear accel) is far more consistent than software/QL accel.

can you elaborate pls ? :)

The WMO is a shit mouse. You don't get any control with your fingers because of the way it's designed(the buttons don't cradle your fingers). It's all palm.

I am glad ratpha uses it so he can't unleash his full potential.

Tox barely moves his mouse and is all reaction time and positioning so it doesn't matter what mouse he uses.

evil is plain adadad and doesn't have good technical aiming(stref or mouse) but instead hover lgs(not directly tracking) he just hits a ton of lg sometimes because he knows where you are going to move and hovers his mouse over you in a locked region. when people fall down in a straight line, he misses lg


i have no idea why anyone rages at the slight positive acceleration difference when it makes no difference, especially for quake where the combat is 1 meter

for legions, ut2004, tribes ascend it could make a difference


i kno u guys luv 2 shittalk, but i kno about da mice more den da quakers

Name good mice for claw?

zowie mico/ razer salmosa pro(if you put your fingers infront of the buttons like I prefer, otherwise just get the mico)

the razer salmosa pro is a much much better abyssus, so if you like the abyssus get that.


fingertip grippers should get a zowie ec2(basically a smaller da4g) or da4g

for an in-between then the zowie fk/krait/kinzu v2

WMO, don't listen to this guy, he doesn't know shit about mice.

wau, such evidence for that statement

cypher is the evidence

his rail isn't that good though

k1llsen rail is way better


i think cooller used to use the WMO, now that he is on the ec2 his aim is way better

Your saying that arguably the best player in the world has average railing skills? He has 45 accuracy on his qlranks profile and when you spectate him you can see that he spams his rail kinda lot and in addition comparing Cypher's railplay with K1llsen's one isn't appropriate. Cypher doesn't build his game around railing unlike K1llsen does.

I don't even want to go deep into your 2nd statement..

Dude, before going to indepth analysis check the users nickname/history.

tips:
If it's jigglywiggly or jajaveve, you don't take it seriously

1. please stupid murican, go troll elsewhere. cypher is the guy who hits 75-80pc rail, for 2 hours... with 80 ping.

2. dunno if qlr used wmo, last year he was kinda forced to crap sponsored mouses [?]

bcus you can measure aim as a %

cooller hits way harder rails and better rails than cypher all the time, but he goes from extremely difficult shots that cypher wouldn't even think about going for so his %% drops

k1llsen's rail is in a another league beyond cypher's, cooller's too

go play tribes ascend noob :D


cypher hits crazy shit, however i agree, not as crazy as killsen.

I have a very hard time determining whether you're trolling or not. Ignore list anyway.

wau

ignored from tier 0 player
da feels

http://www.esreality.com/files/images/2012/91...e_big1.jpg
http://www.esreality.com/post/2517649/h37b2060-jpg/
http://www.esreality.com/post/2519037/h37b2191-jpg/
http://www.esreality.com/post/2519055/h37b2219-jpg/

He4rTL3sS = shit.

What is strange to me is there are still people who think the mouse your using decides how good of a duel player you are lol.
its like they are implying rapha and cypher would be bad with another mouse

ban jigglywiggly

ZeRo4 used a ball mouse till ~2008. Your argument is invalid.



(even if you weren't heartless with invalid arguments by default)

So because a very talented world champion caliber player could get away with playing with inferior techology, it means mouse model isnt relevant? hmmm

yes.

look at his cpma footage, it's horrible

he can't turn his mouse at all, he just gets away with it in QL because of the slower movement

When all is said and done, the kinzu v1 is a decent mouse.

At the very least, evil didn't lose for this reason.

ya esr always thinks mouse and keyboard are the reason for wins/losses and not decision making. same reason why people care what tox is playing with, not that tox has lot of talent that other people don't.

I actually bet if any of the hard hitters changed mice and played for a long time with new shit, they could get used to it (assuming it wasn't inferior tech like ballmice)

ahah awesome :D

He4rTL3sS I am using your thread to contact Evil once again.

Message to Evil:

I hope you give today's prize to Ash, because you were not supposed to win in the first place.

cu

"Message to Evil:

He4rTL3sS says he hopes you give today's prize to Ash, because you were not supposed to win in the first place.

cu"

Just to be safe.

Message to Obama:

thenks

lul.

whys there's always this mouse whine? its all personal preference

How do I retweet this comment

All this chitchat about getting this or that mouse. I mean come on, its just a mouse. Like you actually become a better quakeplayer with one specific mouse.

Look at Heartless, he who thinks himself a really good quakeplayer, decided to go real and play duel -Didnt get past ELO 1300.

i'm actually 2040elo at duel :p

:D hehe

at eye2eye

:DDDDDD

nop!

seems you care about elo too much

well it's not really duel, it's modded duel with idoser :p

actually it s a mix of duel and CA, it s fun!

but i don't give a fuck about my elo i didn't even know that modded duel increased your duel elo lol

;)

let's play some hitscan maps then if you want - dm6, t7, toxicity?

normal duel ?

sure why not :)

He's probably the last guy who gives one fuck about ELO honestly :D

Not sure if troll or stupidest thing I've read in my entire life :D

well i know of a strappin young lad who installed aimbot just to prove everyone right

I didn't prove anyone right, they're just thinking it.

You cheated, now banned.

Nothing else to it :)