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Smooth CFG settings lost! (24 comments)

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Posted by tommix @ 13:03 CDT, 12 June 2014 - iMsg

Hi all

After such a long time of cfging finally I've got settings that surprised me: it come much more playable and comfortable, everything got smoother/slowlier. So easy to hit/dodge/move/trick. Even every new sens settings become native after couple of hours of playing.

Sometimes this comfortable (native) settings feeling disappears: I can't say exactly what changes but it's definitely not the same. It's about video settings and sens feeling as well.

Sorry guys for that noob question, but I'm tired trying to fix it during 2 weeks. I've read lots of stuff but still can't find the reason. Now it doesn't happen from time to time anymore, my "native" settings are totally lost.

What I've done trying to fix that:

Reinstalled OS (Win 8)
Installed/Uninstalled all the drivers (nVidia and steelseries)
tried all mousefix versions

I can't explain this more closely, but it's totally impossible to play. And I guess that the reason is not in my cfg, because it was fine with that before and i've tried some pros configs as well - same shit.

My cfg is attached for any case.
Windows 8 64bit
Mouse SteelSeries Kinzu v2 PRO
Display: usual LCD 60hz

Please, need some advice

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<< Comment #1 @ 13:40 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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jstn

Nothing changed in your config unless you changed it yourself. Shit's all in your head dude. Stop worrying about the perfect config and focus on playing.

If you want to change something, get a better monitor. A cheap 60hz LCD feels like shit to game on.

<< Comment #11 @ 12:05 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #1

Man, it's not my paranoya, trust me. I'm not a pro, but playing quake since q3 times. Also you can find lots of posts even here in esreality about same shit, but nobody can't explain what exactly wrong and nobody gives any answer helped.
But about 60hz cheap LCD - 100% true. Just at present moment it's ok for me, because i feel quite comfortable even against over 400-500 elo players in fights when settings are ok. Now I can't even configure anything playing against weakest bot.
Just can't find the reason:
1) is it mouse drivers/port or smth else
2) gpu drivers
3) ql cfg

<< Comment #24 @ 07:01 CDT, 22 June 2014 >>

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ihve - Reply to #11

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<< Comment #2 @ 13:49 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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*b0se

Going from 60 to 120Hz will be the biggest boost you'll encounter in quake. It makes it 10x easier.

Well, not 10x, but a lot :D

Edit: Get rid of that shit mouse too :) The Zowie FK is far superior and similar in size/weight.

Edited by *b0se at 13:50 CDT, 12 June 2014

<< Comment #6 @ 17:08 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #2

Mouse is rly shit: every flick 180 turn it makes some unbeleiveable stuff like 3-5 360 turns in 1/10 sec.. but size/weight is ok for me

<< Comment #8 @ 19:35 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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a3724726 - Reply to #2

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Edited by a3724726 at 19:05 CST, 24 November 2014

<< Comment #15 @ 20:30 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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pet_cia_mole - Reply to #8

You're overrated.

<< Comment #16 @ 20:35 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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a3724726 - Reply to #15

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Edited by a3724726 at 19:05 CST, 24 November 2014

<< Comment #17 @ 21:11 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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pet_cia_mole - Reply to #16

Good.

<< Comment #3 @ 14:39 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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lewl

i've had the same feeling when i forgot to switch the usb polling rate on my mouse. also having sites open which use flashplayer made the game feel choppy, but that was before the stand alone client.

<< Comment #4 @ 15:16 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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grume

windows 8 has trouble getting mice to 500hz+ i suspect it's probably that.

other things you can try:

go to account settings and click reset settings, otherwise a lot of commands stay in the cloud. then delete or remove repconfig/qzconfig/autoexec from your baseq3 folder. do another reset settings for good measure. see if it's fixed.

com_idlesleep set to 0 can fix choppiness / weird fps issues

com_maxfps 250 will decrease choppiness / input lag even on 60hz. make sure your fps is steady or you'll have tearing/lag. if you need an fps boost use r_vertexlight 1 and or r_enablepostprocess 0.

if you have nvidia use these settings to lower input lag http://imgur.com/a/Pxxpc

disabling HPET in the bios lowers mouse input lag for some people

Edited by grume at 15:24 CDT, 12 June 2014

<< Comment #7 @ 17:13 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #4

I do reseting settings every time before execing cfg and delete repconfig/qzconfig as well. Also in cfg properties I've tapped "read only".
com_idlesleep 0 and com_maxfps 250 are used as well.
Now I'll try to test nvidia settings u've mentioned here and post later about result.
What is HPET in bios? Never seen that in bios menu.

<< Comment #9 @ 20:15 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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grume - Reply to #7

what cfg are you execing? you should try removing everything and not execing your old cfg.

HPET = High Precision Event Timer

anyway are you sure its not your mouse mouse not doing 500hz? check it with this http://www.ngohq.com/attachments/news/1485d12...serate.exe

<< Comment #12 @ 12:05 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #9

I found HPET settings in bios - starting testing with turning it off.
Mouse does 500hz ok, mouserate shows a little bit above 500hz with flick moves.
nVidia settings you've mentioned unofortunately didn't make any effect. But I think the reason is somewhere there in GPU drivers, although fps is quite constant and just rarely drops for 1-2 frames.

<< Comment #13 @ 15:25 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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grume - Reply to #12

the guy r0ach from overclock forum who's obsessed with input lag says to downgrade to nvidia 186.82.

but if you're saying it "sometimes" happens as in randomly, maybe it's not to do with the the drivers but some kind of process or service running on your computer? try running this http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

<< Comment #5 @ 16:06 CDT, 12 June 2014 >>

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BalkanFM

i had a similar problem when r_displayrefresh wasnt working properly.. had to install monitor drivers again and things are ok now..

other than that you can check mouse settings if its set to windows/direct or raw input... m_filter, vsync... post processing settings...

<< Comment #10 @ 12:05 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #5

Mate, can you describe more closely about these settings I need to check?
vsync is ok, swapinterwal = 0, mouse input ok as well: in_mouse = 2, but what about postprocess, colorcorrection?

<< Comment #14 @ 19:34 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>

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Lorfa '

Is your fps the same?

<< Comment #18 @ 07:50 CDT, 14 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #14

Yes, mate, com_maxfps 250/125 is ok, just drops rarely down in a millisec for 1-2 frames. But I have such a feeling like it's about 30 fps in real. Also I can feel little mouse delay, that's the reason why I can't choose comfortable sens. I repeat, that I hit quite ok with +/- any sens/accel after 1-2 hours of practice, there's smth wrong here.

What I've figured out else today: mapoverbrightbits changing 1-15 - no any reaction.
postprocess and colorcorrection are enabled.

Lorfa, this is me writing to you by email from tommix@mail.ru asking advice for cfg optimising about month ago, just wanted to say that month ago these comfortable settings were lost and I started trying to fix that. Still doin' it...

P.S. Just reinstalled nVidia drivers, installed the old version of it if it was after nVidia update. Not tested yet.

<< Comment #19 @ 08:29 CDT, 14 June 2014 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #18

Do you play in 1920x1080?

If you're worried about using your LCD's native res but still want 4:3 there is a hud available somewhere that just adds black bars to the screen.

Your config has a massive amount of junk in it. Like tons of non-QL cvars.

<< Comment #20 @ 03:30 CDT, 15 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #19

Yes, I use to play 1920x1080 and native 16:9 aspect ratio, just was testing some non-stretched settings, because QL native aspect is 4:3.
I think I need to start making a new config, liked Baksteen's one: minimum cvars, all others not included are default, should use it only after cvar_reset. I think it's ok as a base for creating my own.

<< Comment #21 @ 06:19 CDT, 15 June 2014 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #20

I have some templates you can use:

http://pastebin.com/PyJVBGPu

and verbose:

http://pastebin.com/Z997JHps

<< Comment #22 @ 07:34 CDT, 21 June 2014 >>

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tommix - Reply to #21

Just wanted to say that I updated mouse firmware and after that sens feeling like ok. I installed back older version gpu drivers as well, dunno yet was it aslo helpful.

Now testing between 500Hz and 1000Hz mouse polling rate, after choosing it uninstall mouse drivers.

Man, what's the difference between two of your template cfgs you gave me the links?

<< Comment #23 @ 10:52 CDT, 21 June 2014 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #22

One has comments that explain each cvar, the other doesn't.

Other than that the binds are different.

I should make them both the same.

EDIT: Made them the same binds and a few cvars. So only difference is the comments.

Edited by Lorfa at 10:59 CDT, 21 June 2014

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