Thanks, very interesting link.

Interesting to see they stuck with xmpp too, maybe id's problems are simply that they're only running the one xmpp server?

well. I'd agree that ql team doesn't deserve 95% of shit they're getting, yes, id on the other hand...

i think they deserve it. you just look at how they handle quakecon over the years. player like rapha does not deserve that. that is ql team, not id who ran those events.

games is no easy to operate with small team but they are responsible when thing goes wrong. Cannot say is not their fault because they are small team.

many changes recently made went against what most quake players say is wrong and advice against. player like lorfa say this also.

is amateur

No one cares.
Burn them.
; )

Did you even read the article?

"Making it work meant starting with XMPP as a base for chat. WhatsApp followed the same strategy. Out of the box you get something that works and scales well...until the user count really jumps."

You are technically correct, but did you expect to see an exact example relevant to quakelive realm? Do you imply it is still an easy task to incorporate the out-of-the-box solution into QL system? This is an illustration of what it takes to conceive a system. Do you not remember the queue? The leaderboard issues? Nevermind much requested content streaming (GTV) and other complex things.

I don't really care that those features aren't in QuakeLive because I mainly play Q3 (:P) pickups, and QL for some fun with friends. The difficulty that is being discussed in the article appears to be about scale-ability when we are talking about large volumes -- that is not at all the QL problem (funding, money, etc..). With the proper funding available QL can have all those features, but... from a business perspective it's just not worth it, because what would the ROI be? Most likely just debt. That doesn't mean there would not be technical challenges, I'm sure there would, but it's not going to require the top programmers from the world to solve them. You are right, for a small team under-funded team, some of these features are just not possible. B/

Fuck that indeed. Can't they just roll into nearest office and ask for some help? I'm pretty sure that a lot of peple at id can solve this problems working free/part time instead of eating free food in a hammock (or whatever IT offices have).

is syncerrorn and sponge onlly person at id who has been involve with quake. is strange no other employee can do job? maybe id really does not care no?

how come people in the community make better stuff in a shorter time... and for free?

I won't speak to id because they have hired two folks not really capable of the jobs they're supposed to be doing and who don't really seem to be very motivated or in love with the game.

But a large team could easily struggle with diseconomies of scale... ie: GM had multiple CAD programs in development at the same time for different divisions, wasting a shit load of money and making work much more challenging between the different brands they ran.

The same can happen with computer programming, I'd imagine it's much more likely to happen with computer programming given the nature of it. More doesn't necessarily equal better.

Anyway, anyone defending Synch and Sponge must get walked all over in real life IMO. I don't see how you can stick up for a guy basically stealing your money at this point and then shitting all over the community that has really kept this game going for as long as it has been around. And I'm speaking to changes that I disagree with. I'm speaking to his comments about us always coming back anyway so we may as well be ignored and other thick comments made when faced with criticism.

They also shut down criticism from paying customers, whatever happened to the customer is always right? Even if they're wrong, you still let them vent because that's just business 101 and general respect. They are paying for the service.

In short the best hopes for this game lie in another developer buying the franchise after id goes out of business. I'm a lot shocked to hear there's a new project in the works as I thought Bethesda would have more business sense than to just throw money at them as I doubt they've made much if any in a long time off the titles they create.

I realize they have cash flow from the engines they license, but you'd have to think that accountants would be smart enough to separate the two in terms of expenses and revenue.

problem as other say is that current devs cannot do it correctly. if ql is survive then maybe other devs can do better. but i think too late now. reflex look much better anyway.

And QL's XMPP server manages to be dog shit with 500 users. OP just reinforces that the players have plenty to complain about.

this has to be the stupidest thread yet.

so who exactly is responsible for the massive failure of QL if not the people in charge of it? not investing or putting enough effort into the product in the first place is not a fucking defense

Who didn’t let the gorilla into the ballet?

Why would a gorilla do ballet? Are you stupid?

for pot cookies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snys_zW3Wjk

donka said gorilla not monkey.

What do I provide back?

Money?
I was a premium subscriber not long ago, but I'm so glad I didn't renew my subscription 4 days before the (back then unknown) loadout update.

my friends played with linux but never got refund after they dropped support. is crime really

Someone didn't read the ToS.

is true perhaps. they had just paid for premium a week before at the time, not had account very long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumancentiPad

hahahaha

is crime. no laugh.

I see your point, but the scale(thus money/man power/time needed) is quite different.

you missed the part where id software was considered the greatest FPS developer on the planet, not some newbie studio with no budget for anything

maybe it's unfair to hold them to a higher standard, but that's the way people view things

sasparillo deleting comments here haha.

From those posts, seems like the IP 79.168.55.112 corresponds to raythenoob