Title itself sounds sooo WRONG

but we will get used 2 it even ESR allmighties and meanest?

:<

For that purpose ID has added a couple features where 3rd party tools can dock on. They left the door open for everyone who wants to contribute.

Javascript can be executed inside QL, engine events can be listened to, stats can be pulled from a ZMQ message queue, RCON through ZMQ, web.pak can be extracted and the UI modified, ...

So pretty much everyting "around the game" is possible, just not modding the core gameplay. But even for that the new factory system and hundrets of cvars allow a lot of customization.

Personally I think it makes sense to have a "competitive" network of game servers, connected to a stats tracker and maybe a cross-server steam-id ban system... but also have unconnected servers where you can play for fun without worrying about stats.

gibs

this please. If only for old time's sake.

SyncError promised me as much on chat a while ago and I hope this comes to fruition.

Hopefully this is something that's implemented soon.

pacman is on point like always

Already spoke to a few of the companies that host gaming servers, they'll be adding support for Quake Live shortly, so getting servers up won't be an issue and it' costs literally next to nothing.

nice!

On the second day of new patch there were already 20 dedicated servers running in my vicinity. I don't doubt most of em will be ranked as soon as someone sets up a stat collecting server

Why the part with the nick changing thing? Just do it so that the "Website" listen on their steam ID.

If steam ID can be read from server logs/stats then there's no issue with nick changes.

However it doesn't mean it's not possible to restore the same level of experience. If we organize we can make connected cloud of dedicated servers and implement stats collecting utility. When it's done and we can some solve variable in-game nick issue we will be able to track stats for every player and bring QLRanks back.

Thats why.

There's no problem with names because of steamID.

Also you should see http://esreality.com/post/2780462/re-gibs-mus...pid2780462 if you haven't already :)

is there an updated ioquake3 to match quakelive? how to play quake live on linux? :(

TF2 lobby worked well, something like that possibly. There was an identifier in your steam profile. The stats could be linked to that identifier. For duel it could probably be done p2p, the fastest pc hosts and via a unique identifier and some type of workshop addon the stats could be uploaded to a master server. Obviously there a lot of technical details but it seems in principal some esr genius could figure it out. There would need to be some sort of encryption on the addon so the stats and disconnect numbers, server hosting quality, and sportsmanship are all not easily cheated and hopefully can be covered by VAC.

Working on it now!!

The update is pretty cool, but comes far too late. It should have been like that right from the start. Today you will find less people who got time and motivation to create something great. All in all I am still very happy that Quake 3 lives on.

worst part is, people will just be doing double work since most of what people are working on was already done for q3.

total waste of time

if people were smart they'd go back to q3 and build on what they spent years working on that game on. With QL you are starting from scratch again.... Back to pre Q3 days

There's a small discrepancy between what we hope will happen and what actually WILL happen.

Many of you, me included, remember the times when older Quakes were moddable, customizable and tweakable almost to extreme. id built them that way, creating code already compatible with modding efforts.
That was a different time, when people had to closely inspect what version of what mod server runs to be able to d/l the mod, install it and connect. It was PITA from current point of view when we have mods that basically install and connect seamlessly with minimum user interaction. But back in the day it was so haxor and cool to be able to mod Q, as computers and gaming in general were the absolute xtreme of geekiness. Back then people cared because there was nothing else as an alternative and the community was different.

Fast forward to today.
The question remains: Do we as community have enough willpower to go back to QL and start modding it again? And will anybody care apart from a small group of enthusiasts? Nowadays a majority of QL players is neither interested in modding nor playing mods. Also the market is oversaturated with lots of weird FPSs and lots of weird mods for almost every FPS out there. 4 young QL players that I shown Lith Q2 to were completely indifferent to grappling hook over which many veterans drool to this day. Same for Defrag (bastardized as RACE in QL) - see its statistics in QL and how many ppl play it. The same 4 youngsters were completely baffled why smb might record time of running from one point of map to the other. "I thought racing games are for that" said one of them, asking me whether NFS existed when Defrag was conceived (trololololo). Black Ops Zombies is way more funny and cool for them than this. "Great, funny piece of gaming history" said one and bid his goodbye to go play on custom TF2 server.

There were already lots of mods in QL before this update and they were extremely low-popular. Reason for this is simple: If the core game does not attract wide audience, the mods that are by definition a specialized extension of it won't, either. Back in the day Quake was so huge in gaming world that making maps for it or modding it was seen as greatness and achievement. Nowadays the playerbase is so small nobody notices these efforts (nobody as in significant majority).

I said it when first problems with QL started to appear and I'll repeat it now: The idea and problem of QL was getting a stable playerbase and building from there, not getting super customizability.

Who's gonna work on QL now?
-newbs who have problems with playing vQL and dont see mods as cool or funny
-hardcore vets who will install Defrag or CPMA and do it on LAN and who already consider QL an abomination
-general audience that doesn't care anyway

Way I see it, it won't work. Most of us think thru filter of olden times. We grown up with Quake and we didnt have any option back then so we put 100% of steam into tweaking it. Now it's a totally different time. One of my pals, a hard q3 defragger, told me that he thinks that UTk4 and its mutators contributed to killing Q for good. Might be. Whatever the case, IMHO this will stay a niche game with niche mods out of which max 5 will be played.

Let's hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any other way tbh.

I think you're thinking about something else than I suggested. You mentioned gameplay modes, but I don't think we need any more game modes. No ones gonna play it anyway. We just need to improve game environment to let people easily find gaming partners at their skill level in existing game modes and track stats because people love stats.

Let's say I want to play TDM. I open the game. I click on "Find me a TDM game" and switch back to facebook. When enough players are gathered (no matter if they are on the server I just selected the same option) I will be automatically connected to server and notified. This is exactly what IRC pickups are trying to achieve, but in completely uncomfortable way and only for oldschool players.

This is kind of modding we are missing, not the grappling hook type of stuff.

Thats pretty much what the stream lobby/matchmaking system is for.

stopped reading after "QL FUTURE"

Such a badass!

Because it took you 15mins and you had other things planned?

Mature Reallife things - cars, bitches, alcohol, etc etc

o-le.