you should totally put together some resources on playing ntf, and compile an esreality column of that information, sprinkled liberally with your personal opinions, insights, thoughts, emotions, and anecdotes. even include what you wrote in this journal, maybe with links to the things you cite so that those so inclined can verify the accuracy of your statements, if you feel like putting that much effort into it.

Good thought but I probably won't put in that time.

To play NTF you just need CPMA and set the game mode to NTF. This CPMA guide will help fill any other gaps.

Note one thing that QC didn't do which I think was a good move was to not include weapon loadouts. Which I think is a good move. The Champions change playstyle but not the core gameplay.

in the end it just comes down on having the brand, that draws the players in ... imagine a game just like quake champions, but not having the quake brand, how good you think this game would do ... ? :-) ... anyway we'll see how good quake will do ...
I think a lot of old quake players will buy the game, but maybe only 10 % of them will really play it more than 8 hours ... it remains to be seen if the call of duty generation will really like to play this game, this will decide if the game will be successful or not ... and I am not so sure about that :-)

as good as UT 1999

Oh yeah for sure... just like the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player.

Not to mention Generations Arena

Wow, I've never seen this before, thanks.

Nice

I'm always hearing this annoying use of the word "evolution". It's really just a mutation until it proves its superior ability to survive. :D

Then id software is just a parasite feeding off other organisms to survive :O

A bit disrespectful considering id software basically founded modern FPS gaming, no?

Well a small group of guys who founded id software did but they are not at id software anymore.

current team proved with doom 2016, that they are a worthy successor to the original team.

Doom 2016 is a little overrated tbh. Sure there were some awesome design choices but overall it wasn't amazing.

Mutations are part of evolution. Selection then decides wether a mutation prevails or not.

Mutations are part of evolution, but mutations are not evolution. Evolution requires mutation and selection.

Otherwise, any genetic defect would also be "evolution".

All scientific semantics aside, "evolution" is a positive term awarded to changes we think are improvements or the natural next step that is required for survival of a thing. It is best to call it that once we know whether it has been "selected". Otherwise, it just sounds like annoying advertising.

is a mutation not "selected" until it's "culled"?

QC, or most other things advertisers like to refer to as evolutions, hasn't been selected or culled yet. :D

Evolution is not necessarily "improvement", only gradual change over time.

An evolved thing is something new that is good enough to survive---but it usually means it survives better since it has to compete with the other things out there, the best surviving and the worst dying out.

But like I said, this is marketing, not scientific, terminology, and they are certainly making use of the widespread positive connotation of the word that implies improvement over what came before.

That's not necessarily true. Evolution can lead to maladaptive traits that perpetuate for many, many generations. Evolution is simply change. Sometimes it's good, sometimes bad.

If it is change, then why call it evolution. These are not close synonyms.

It doesn't matter whether evolution can produce flaws. Evolution is not a means for finding optimal solutions. It produces something that is capable of surviving---as a species. That is the primary characteristic. A simple change from father to son is not evolution. If the son survives well enough to pass on his DNA, then yeah, maybe you can consider it such. But generally evolution is what occurs over many generations and facilitates adaptation to the environment.

In any case, as I have said, this is about the marketing use of the word, which has closer meaning to its other listed synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, progression, expansion, extension, unfolding; transformation, adaptation.

Yeah, "change" is in there, but I highly doubt the word would be so popular with advertisers if that was the connotation the majority of people had in their heads.

Actually, I think father to son is "evolution". Evolution is very gradual change over time. Natural selection is one aspect of evolution but so is genetic variation through sexual reproduction, genetic mutation, genetic drift, etc.. They all fall under the umbrella of evolutionary theory.

I'm not talking about marketing. I was only addressing the usage of "evolution". Since it was being used in scientific context, thought I'd add clarify that the proper scientific use does not strictly necessitate that it is improvement, only change. I think a case could be made that evolution tends towards increased complexity, though.

Well, I'm no expert on the technical definition of what constitutes "evolution" in this or that branch of science, but I don't consider breeding to be evolution. Very localized changes don't really seem like evolution to me. If it changes the traits of a large group that share something in common, like a species or a people that live in a particular part of the world, then it seems more like evolution to me---because it means the new trait survived better enough to influence a larger group and is not just a localized and temporary accident, and I think this aligns with the layman's understanding of the word and its usage in the majority of cases.

If one freak is born with 6 fingers, I don't consider that evolution, but if 6-fingered freaks survive better in a particular environment to the extent that soon everyone there has 6 fingers, then I see that as evolution.

Evolution doesn't necessarily mean something has improved, but it is good at finding solutions that work. And when those solutions are made to compete with one another, the tendency is for the better solutions to thrive while the worst go extinct. This is not a human's judgement of "better" anyway; better from the point of view of evolution is just something that has a greater ability to survive and is more suited to its environment.

I think the widespread connotation of improvement that goes with the word evolution comes from the strong connection it has to the idea that human beings evolved from a common ancestor with apes, and since people see themselves as better than apes, that was an improvement. Marketers play on this connotation, however much variance it has with technical theory, and that is what I found annoying in my original post (2 months back LOL).

Do you think that idiot WinD called his group "Accelerated Evolution" just to imply changes? :D

I agree, the common usage of the word is that it's "progress" but I don't think that's the proper use of it.

not necessarily superior, adequate's enough

Fair nitpick. :P

Though generally it probably does mean superior ability because the superior will kill off the inferior. :D

But you know when you hear Tim Willits and the like use the term "evolution", they don't mean "we made this game adequate enough to survive". :D

Chess already did Champions a few centuries ago.

If QC feels anything like NTF I'm sold.

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Quake already did Team Fortress before CPMA.

but but C P M A