Check blurbusters

There are no CRTs on the market, so... When they were going out, Internet was like "why do you need this heavy box on your desk, besides, you'll get an OLED in 5 years"... 15 years later, there was no normal size (~25"), 1080p, 120+ Hz OLED ever made. And it's not coming. Someone should make a boutique CRT for Quakers :/

In esports LCD land, XL2546 is still king basically.

There are three 360 Hz options now, they're all IPS, I haven't tried them (expensive stuff), but please try one out and tell us how it compares to a CRT :)

BTW, I also had opportunity to test drive MSI MAG251RX for a few weeks, it was supposed to be the king of gaming IPS in normal prices (aka below the 360 Hz stuff) until ViewSonic XG2431 came out (which I haven't had my hands on).

With the MSI, I was pleasantly surprised with panel speed (for an IPS) Sure, it's not equally fast, but switching from XL2546, you can get used to it after just a few games/days and achieve excellent results. BUT, it disconnects DP every time it goes to sleep (as in screensaver! No, disabling autoscan doesn't fix it if you have more than one display connected) and even worse, disables anti-motion-blur every reboot!

My verdict on the MSI is therefore: unusable piece of junk because of the firmware (which is not user-flashable, plus there's no newer version).

(Frankly, I prefer TN image to IPS, fuck angles with that bleed and bad contrast ;) There are fast VAs nowadays, but nowhere near this fast, probably best choice for casuals though)

I also can't await OLEDs for gaming, I even accept the shorter life span as long as I get those quick pixel responses.

VA for gaming is a joke and it is still baffling to me, how brands like Asus are so agressively marketing high-refresh-rate-VA-panels with 30+ ms pixel response times and insane red colour smearing.

TN is also retarded at speed, it is quick at 10%->90% transitions, but after that it overshoots like crazy, which makes the XL2546K reach stability at the target response much slower than a lot of IPS panels.

For comparison check the results from rtings.com for initial (rise/fall) and final (total) response times and corresponding overshooting percentages:

XL2646K TN (overdrive: high)
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/odyv0DSw/ta...-large.jpg
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/odyv0DSw/ch...-large.jpg

VG279QM IPS (overdrive: 60)
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/IS4UptLr/ta...-large.jpg
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/IS4UptLr/ch...-large.jpg

When you then factor in price, angles and colours because you actually do other stuff than gaming with the monitor most of the time anyway, IPS beats TN imho:
VA << TN < IPS < OLED (when?).

I assume you meant 2546K. I have the non-K, and from quick reading on the K when it came out (2019 or so?), it looked like all marketing, and the new version might actually be technically worse (more overshoot to achieve the advertised 0,5ms?)

But assuming mine is the same, then that super short over/undershoot blip must be hidden by strobo blink. It's really not an issue. I swear it looks better than that MSI, which was _the_best_ IPS according to everyone on the Internet. Better angles (except looking from below), better colors (not color consistency from top to bottom, it's a TN after all, I hate it, but that's not an issue for gaming), no backlight bleed. I defend my order of CRT > TN > IPS > VA for gaming and demand an OLED!

(Not to mention how horrible the firmware on that MSI is! How do monitor reviews not pick up on that, it's absolutely unusable and there's like 100 pages worth of crying on blurbusters' thread on it... Surely the Asus is nothing like that, but it's 280 Hz and no one shows any data on its performance at a multiplier of 60, aka 240/300/360, which are the only acceptable values, hence I wouldn't even try it - again reviewers' fault!)

What about this one?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr95qe-b

There is a newer model XL2546k, with Freesync, and some other small improvements, so OP can maybe check that one out. With Freesync on, you are more versatile, when playing casual games, which don't hit 240fps at all times.

The feeling of CRTs is still unmatched imo.

That's absolutely useless, because anti-motion blur backlight strobing (here: DyAc+) doesn't work with adaptive sync (here: FreeSync). Same for AMA (is it Advanced Motion Accelerator? BENQ's overdrive control).

With adaptive sync, all the nice things (from an FPS players' perspective) go to shit. Not only you can't have anti motion blur, but all manufacturers fuck up overdrive at anything except the maximum refresh rate, so you get more under/overshoot, so smearing/ghosting becomes even more visible. But you wouldn't know, hard to see through tears your eyes will cry out with DyAc off ;)

I don't know why they wouldn't invest in making it work. I mean, it would be trivial to just run the panel at all the 240 Hz settings (same backlight blink length, let's say 2 blinks of 1 ms (I don't know what it actually is with DyAc Premium); same overdrive settings with 4 ms target), then for the rest of the frame, PWM the backlight down so that it doesn't get brighter whenever FPS drops. Sure, it would need few months of R&D to make it right, but those are huge companies (panel people like Samsung, LG, AU Optronics, then the controller people like Nvidia, then the end client like ASUS or BENQ), why no one is trying to do it, what am I missing?

CRT

CR..

other than a CRT..

Sorry, I cannot help you.

The replies about CRTs are pretty true, but I've been using this high end CRT (Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070sb) that can do 1440x1080 @ 120hz-160hz interlaced or 1024x768 @ 160hz.

But I'm gonna sell this monitor and buy an Asus PG259QN. That would be better for most games - but CRTs are still viable if you use a GTX 980ti with very old drivers (That dont break the interlacing support), or a modern AMD card which still support interlacing unlike NVIDIA FUCK YOU. Cus on modern games you would need interlacing to get a decent refresh rate.


The PG259QN can overclock to 433hz or so - which makes it have even less motion blur, even if theres frame skipping issues which dont make it truly a higher framerate.

Also this monitor has less blur and lower pixel response latency than any 240hz monitor. It's also VERY BRIGHT compared to other gaming monitors, I'm assuming the reason for this is to enable backlight strobing in 240hz mode without the picture becoming too dark with optimal settings.


But I can sell my monitor and buy this 360hz panel and an RX 6600XT - because CRT prices are inflating like crazy due to fluoride-brained reddit soyboys who spends their entire paycheck on PVMs like funkopops

I always thought interlacing looked like garbage (Like won't that halve brightness?), but interesting thing to try to push up refresh rate.

I am currently using a Samsung 997mb as my main (As I do not need to use my pc for work at the moment). After experimenting I ended up using 1920x1200@78hz - high ppi, good compatibility and that is smooth for most single player games, modern stuff with ray tracing etc. looks gorgeous. I don't really play anything competitive anymore, and the black bars don't bother me.

Also just be careful, motion clarity on a CRT, even at 60hz, looks better than some 240hz LCDs. My CRT at 85hz easily beats my 144hz next to it in clarity and perceived smoothness.

I drop the res for fast paced fps to bump up the hz - but honestly I'm not playing in tournaments so don't really care for going past 120hz. So disappointed in the monitor market, just want good motion clarity, good black levels at a decent res, I guess there will probably be some 16" oled portable monitors in a couple of years, or just buy a tv.

Did you end up buying the ASUS is it good? I saw the review on Linus' channel, and it kinda blurs on the UFO test thing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iY0figLAwo

I have Asus Strix G15, 300hz panel, with panel overdrive there is not too much motion blur.

With panel overdrive off it has terrible motionblur.

Took me like 12 tries of reinstalling the laptop software to get panel overdrive.

I only slightly prefer it to CRT, mostly because of the clarity (maybe my Mitusbishi DiamondTron 2070sb could look better with the right settings and cable though)


Probably better monitors than CRT:
LG 27GR95QE OLED 240hz - 0.11 ms / 0.67 ms delay

KTC G42P5 OLED 130hz - 08 / .18ms delay

Unreleased 480hz OLED:
https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/lg-anno...t-ces-2024

LG's new 480 Hz gaming monitor will inevitably be the successor to the outgoing LG 27GR95QE. Both monitors sport identical specifications, save for the refresh rate which is twice as fast on the 480 Hz panel. As a result, we can expect the new 480Hz panel to feature a similar feature set and profile to the outgoing 27GR95QE. Display specs could also be identical — save for the refresh rate, but if this is a new panel LG might equip it with better HDR capability and display contrast on top of its higher refresh rate. But we'll have to wait and see if that is the case.

what about using converters with new GPUs? I hear varying opinions. Some say they add lag. Some say they don't. Not sure what to believe. Ive got a titan x maxwell gpu and I only use linux. No idea if the linux drivers support interlacing or not.

Nvidia does NOT support interlacing, you can kind of get interlacing on specific old drivers if your gpu still has analog ports (DVI).

I heard AMD drivers do support interlacing but I didn't try it yet.

My adapter is USB-C to VGA. I'm just gonna give up on CRT if I have to buy an expensive adapter.

haha. ppl in 2024 still using CRT:
OHHH it will boost my skillz by 200%

hf with ya placebo